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novelmonger · 3 months
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Continuing to watch through the Writer/Director commentary of LotR (with Peter Jackson, Philippa Boyens, and Fran Walsh) and jotting down any new-to-me information I come across. Here's what I gleaned from TTT:
When they got the New Line logo to put on the movies, it was very old and scratched, so PJ gave it to Weta to touch it up. They joked about how they should bill New Line for it XD
Originally, the studio wanted TTT to start off with a prologue too, with Cate Blanchett narrating what sounds like it was basically going to be a "Previously on..." spiel, even though they didn't like the idea of the prologue in the first one. Thankfully, these three ignored the studio's advice both times XD
The Uruk who says "Manflesh" is also the guy in Sauron's armor in the prologue!
In the scene where the Rohirrim find Theodred, it's not actually raining! They used rain towers for the close-ups, but any wide shots just have CG rain. I would never have guessed!
Andy Serkis did the voices for the Uruk-Hai who says the "maggoty bread" line, and the orc who says, "Yeah, why can't we have some meat?" (The actor in the suit for the latter is, of course, Jed Brophy, who went on to play Nori in the Hobbit movies.)
Somehow it never registered for me that Orlando Bloom has brown eyes, and so he had to wear blue contacts when he played Legolas ^^' But sometimes he wasn't able to wear the contacts (or forgot), so there are some scenes where they had to fix it in post.
PJ called the Treebeard from the animated Bakshi movie "a walking carrot" XD He also said that Treebeard is his favorite character!
The scene with Smeagol killing Deagol was originally going to be a flashback right after Frodo says his name, and then the Nazgul shriek would pull the audience out of the flashback. They decided not to do that for pacing reasons and because we haven't spent much time with Gollum yet, so that's why they put it at the beginning of RotK instead.
Bernard Hill had his son with him on the shoot and would play with him in his downtime on the Edoras set. Puts things into perspective when you hear that he was the one who came up with the line "No parent should have to bury their child."
They were originally looking at Bernard Hill for Gandalf! (I feel like I've probably heard this before, but anyway.)
They filmed a flashback to Aragorn and Arwen's first meeting?! Viggo shaved to make himself look younger, and it was a scene of the two of them "frolicking about the forest." It was originally going to be put in the Lothlorien sequence, but they cut it out in favor of that scene between Aragorn and Boromir, because they decided it was more important to earn Boromir's death scene than to remind the audience of the romance. I agree with that decision, but it would be cool to see that footage! (I say as someone who prefers to skip the TTT Aragorn/Arwen scene entirely XD)
Originally, the warg battle was going to happen at Edoras itself. It was going to be at night, everything was going to be on fire, and ultimately that was going to be the reason everyone evacuated and went to Helm's Deep. Also, a warg was going to be set on fire and end up dragging Aragorn through the streets, and that was going to be how Aragorn would be left for dead. Ultimately, the reason they did it the way they did was because the studio wasn't sure Weta could do a flaming warg (something all three of them laughed about, considering everything Weta did manage to do with flying colors), and because it would have been a nightmare to light the Edoras set at night, because that location was so remote and so windy. Which is why every scene in Edoras takes place in the daytime!
In the scene where Faramir talks about his dream where he saw Boromir in the boat, you can see a sort of pinkish color in the water around Boromir's body. That's because the dye from his shirt (surcoat? idk) was leaking out into the water! XD
When Andy Serkis did ADR for the Forbidden Pool scene, he couldn't manage to sing the song off-key, so they had to use the audio from the motion capture footage XD
They shot some additional footage of Aragorn unconscious on Brego's back, riding past an orc encampment, that they never ended up using.
Theoden was originally going to give a speech to the soldiers in the armory, but Bernard Hill's performance was so inspiring that it defused most of the tension they were trying to build up before the battle, so they took it out. Would love to see that footage!
So the boy Aragorn encourages before the battle ("There is always hope.") was Philippa Boyens' son, who was 13 when they filmed the scene. But by the time they went to do ADR, his voice had broken, so they had to get a different child actor to say his lines.
Aww, the extra who was missing an eye said he always felt self-conscious about his missing eye, so he always wore an eyepatch. But then after they gave him a close-up and the guy saw the movie, he said he felt much better about his appearance! :')
Treebeard's line "I always like going south; it feels like going downhill" was ad-libbed!
When Saruman turns and reacts to all the water pouring in and washing his machinery away, that shot was actually a reaction shot to Wormtongue on top of the tower from the RotK movie that they repurposed for this scene instead, since they hadn't shot any reactions to the flood.
At least at the time of the recording of this audio commentary, the final shot of Gollum, where he's arguing with himself and ultimately decides to lead Frodo and Sam to Shelob, was the longest CG shot in any movie. (I tried to google what the current record is, but couldn't find anything, so if anyone knows, I'd love to hear about it!)
Fran Walsh: "All cinema storytelling, to a degree, is shallow. That's the nature of the medium. You've got two or three hours to present a world and a dense story with a hundred themes and a ton of backstory, in this instance, and 22 characters...so you can only really have the veneer of depth. You really can't have anything that comes close to the depth of the books, or the experience of the books. So I think what we attempted to do was to use the language of the books where we could and to certainly invoke them, the iconic images, where we could, but to keep the storytelling very much...to modernize it, if you like, in terms of cinema language. So we didn't, for example, use the style of storytelling that was in the books between these different after-the-fact storytelling, of Sam and Frodo and then a chunk of the Aragorn story. We completely undercut it. That was a far more immediate and engaging way to connect it to the audience. You can't really hope to satisfy people who adore this book, with the movie. You can only ever give them the sense of what might have been. That's all a film can do. I think, in that sense, films...I mean, they're entertainments. They're just not going to give you the pleasure that a book can give you."
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milton-dammers · 2 months
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The Frighteners [1996] dir. Peter Jackson
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maraschinocheri · 3 months
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It was 20 years ago today :: The lights of my life hit the carpet, stage and press room at the Golden Globe Awards on 25 January, 2004. The Return of the King took home all four of its nominated awards, including Best Motion Picture (Drama); Best Director for Peter Jackson; Best Original Score for Howard Shore; and Best Original Song, for Howard Shore, Fran Walsh, and Annie Lennox. Cate Blanchett and Elijah Wood served as presenters during the awards ceremony, and the film's party also included Dominic Monaghan, John Rhys Davies, screenwriter Philippa Boyens, producer Barrie Osborne, and representing New Line Cinema, Robert Shaye and Michael Lynne.
[ The Wellington premiere of ROTK | Air Frodo from NZ to LA | Los Angeles | Berlin | London | New York (1) | New York (2) | Empire's LOTR Celebration booklet photography | Empire's outtakes | Critics Choice and People's Choice Awards | National Board of Review Awards | Producers Guild Awards | Tokyo (1) | Tokyo (2) ]
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ebaeschnbliah · 11 months
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They fight ...
“The collaboration between the three of us (Peter Jackson, Fran Walsh, Philippa Boyens) came down to Fran and I working incredibly closely together, locked in the hotel rooms, locked in the office at home, getting the work done. Fran then taking it to Peter and reshaping. And often we’d come to bits where we knew there was action involved so we’d just go, you know ... ‘they fight’. And that turns into 20 minutes of the finished film because you just knew Peter was gonna come along and do it brilliantly.”
(Philippa Boyens, The Special Extended Edition, The Appendices, From Book to Script)
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trahald-the-burrower · 6 months
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Gollum and Sméagol - Original Two Towers Script
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ORIGINAL SCRIPT
*I put in red what wasn't used in the final version. I put in green what was only slightly changed ("He's my friend" vs "Master's my friend"). Some of what was used is out of order, but I didn't want to overcomplicate things by pointing all of that out*
Sméagol: What does they want with Mordor? Why does Master want to go there?
Gollum: We doesn't know... But they're hiding something from us, precious. Sneaky little hobbitses! Wicked! Tricksy! False!
Sméagol: No...
Gollum: Yes, precious -- false. They will cheat you, hurt you! Lie!
Sméagol: No! Not Master...
Gollum: Master!!! Master doesn't like you -- Master doesn't care!
Sméagol: He does! He does care!
Gollum: Master is using you!
Sméagol: No! No! He's my friend.
Gollum: (laughs) You don't have any friends. Nobody likes you...
Sméagol: Not listening -- not listening --
Gollum: You're a liar and a thief!
Sméagol: No!!!!!!
Gollum: (low) Murderer!
Sméagol: Go away!
Gollum: (mocking) Go away... Ha! Ha! Ha!
Sméagol: I hate you... I hate you...
Gollum: You make us sick... where would you be without me? Gollum, Gollum!
Sméagol: Leave me alone!
Gollum: I saved us! It was me! We survived because of me.
Sméagol: Not anymore. Master looks after us now.
Gollum: (low and dangerous) No...
Sméagol: (fierce whisper) Leave now and never come back.
Gollum: (hisses)
Sméagol: Leave now and never come back!!!
Gollum: (snarls)
Sméagol: Leave now and never come back!!!!!
Sméagol: We told him to go away! And away he goes, precious! Away he goes! Gone! Gone! Gone! Sméagol is free!
FINAL SCRIPT
*I put in blue what wasn't used in the original script. In green things that were changed only slightly.*
Gollum: We wants it. We needs it. Must have the precious. They stole it from us. Sneaky little hobbitses! Wicked! Tricksy! False!
Sméagol: No... not Master!
Gollum: Yes, precious -- false! They will cheat you, hurt you, lie!
Sméagol: Master's my friend!
Gollum: You don't have any friends! Nobody likes you!
Sméagol: Not listening! I'm not listening!
Gollum: You're a liar and a thief.
Sméagol: No.
Gollum: Murderer.
Sméagol: Go away...
Gollum: Go away?! Hehahaha!
Sméagol: I hate you... I hate you...
Gollum: Where would you be without me? Gollum, gollum! I saved us! It was me. We survived because of me!
Sméagol: Not anymore.
Gollum: What did you say?
Sméagol: Master looks after us now. We don't need you.
Gollum: What?
Sméagol: Leave now and never come back.
Gollum: No!
Sméagol: Leave now and never come back!
Gollum: (snarls)
Sméagol: Leave now and never come back!
Sméagol: We... we told him to go away... and away he goes, precious! Gone, gone, gone! Sméagol is free!
Here is a Behind-The-Scenes snippet of the original script:
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Here is the final version of the scene:
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The Lord of the Rings: the return of the king
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miravayl · 4 months
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16.12.23
#Mira-Marathon | LOTR
Film Name: The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug (2013) Production Studios: MGM, New Line Cinema, WingNut Films; Director by: Peter Jackson; Screenwriter: Fran Walsh, Philippa Boyens, Peter Jackson, Guillermo del Toro; Starring: Martin Freeman, Richard Armitage, Ian McKellen, Evangeline Lilly, Orlando Bloom; Genres: Fantasy, Adventure; Running Time: 2 hours 41 minutes;
"The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug" is an epic fantasy film of 2013, the second part of the "Hobbit" trilogy. It captivates with visual effects and a challenging journey. It has an exciting plot, but some scenes can be long. The film is interesting for fans of fantasy and adventure.
My rating: 8/10
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beginnerblueglass · 1 year
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Remember when it was revealed in the Lord of the Rings behind the scenes that the sound designers were trying to find a good sound for the Ringwraiths’ scream, and they were trying to describe the sound they were looking for to Peter Jackson, like a really high-pitched, blood chilling scream, and he was like, “My wife can do that.”
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cinesludge · 1 year
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Movie #7 of 2023: The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King: Extended Edition
Gimli: “Certainty of death. Small chance of success. What are we waiting for? “
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inevitablemoment · 1 year
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Me trying to get people to watch The Frighteners with this.
But, seriously, watch The Frighteners.
Preferably the director’s cut.
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adamwatchesmovies · 6 days
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The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001)
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It feels like every single fantasy film has been building up to The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring. This sprawling world of myth and magic is a landmark achievement. The special effects, characters, art direction, score, scale and faithfulness to the source material make it the kind of picture that will shape generations. It’s big, wonderful and epic but also small, intimate and emotional. This is a labor of love and it shows.
In the Second Age of Middle-earth, the Dark Lord Sauron forged the One Ring. With its power, he was poised to conquer all. Defeated through sheer luck, his evil dissipated. 3,000 years later, the One Ring is discovered in the possession of a humble hobbit named Frodo Baggins (Elijah Wood). To save the world, from Sauron's return, the ring must be snuck back into the shadowy land of Mordor and thrown into the volcano where it was forged. On this quest, Frodo is accompanied by his friends Samwise Gamgee (Sean Astin), Pippin Took (Billy Boyd) and Merry Brandybuck (Dominic Monaghan), his mentor, the wizard Gandalf (Ian McKellen), and representatives of the free races of Middle-Earth: humans Strider (Viggo Mortensen) and Boromir (Sea Bean), dwarf Gimli (John Rhys-Davies) and elf Legolas Greenleaf (Orlando Bloom).
To get us up to speed, the picture begins with a history lesson that’ll knock you off your feet. The armies clashing seem immeasurably large. Sauron effortlessly radiates evil despite having no dialogue. You can feel the thousands of years of culture in the fighting styles, weapons and scenery. Middle-Earth feels real. The scale is immense, which makes director Peter Jackson’s decision to focus the plot on an ordinary hobbit a genius move. In a story with caverns so large our civilization could never dream of carving them, elven cities that seem to grow from the trees that surround them, seamless towers of black stone and all sorts of monsters, it would be easy for audiences to feel alienated. We’d all like to think that when push comes to shove we’d be great heroes but in reality, there’s no way. The best a tiny person like you or me could hope to do is stay brave, which is exactly Frodo’s role.
Several times throughout, we hear that “Even the smallest person can change the course of the future.” There couldn’t be anyone smaller than Frodo Baggins - except, perhaps, his friend to the end, Samwise. The hobbits are humble little people who have lived peaceful, simple lives free from adventure and are now thrust into a journey that will be the stuff of legends. Their joys are simple: warm meals, fields of brightly-colored vegetables and parties with friends & family. One particular scene that shows you just how small they are comes towards the end of the story. Sam and Frodo are traveling down a river. In the distance, they spot these enormous statues, the kind that would make the Statue of Liberty blush. Like us, they gaze at them in wonder, wondering who could’ve built them and who they represent. None of the other members of the Fellowship seem to give them more than a passing glance - and yet, these simple people prove themselves just as brave and reliable as the seasoned guardians they are traveling with. It’s awe-inspiring in so many ways.
By focusing on Frodo and his part of the journey, the film has a strong emotional core. The Fellowship of the Ring knows it has this time-tested story that’ll enchant audiences but before doing anything else, it made sure to get the basics right. Even if it hadn’t, it would’ve been an impressive production. Surrounding the inspirational battle of good vs. evil are incredible visuals, standout special effects and exciting action scenes. The film contains elements of horror in the form of its shadowy Ring Wraiths and scenes set in the deep mines of Moria. It’s got comedy to lighten the mood when necessary, chases so perfectly paced they should be shown in film school and battles that remain exciting whether they feature millions or a handful of fighters. There are so many great lines and iconic scenes you’ll love to quote it to your friends. The score by Howard Shore is this powerhouse that immediately sets up residence in your mind.
Though it ends in a "to be continued", The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring is the kind of movie you need to watch just to be part of the cultural conversation. Don't worry if you're weary of following trends; you would fall in love with this film even if you discovered it on your own. (Theatrical version on Blu-ray, April 26, 2022)
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novelmonger · 3 months
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So I'm a pretty big LotR fan. And I'm a pretty big fan of the movies. No, they're not perfect, but they're a really good adaptation and a truly masterful work of cinematic art. I've grown pretty familiar with the movies over the past 23 years (@_@) - and not just the movies themselves, but I also love learning all about how they were made. I've watched all the way through all the bonus material in the Extended Editions at least five times (and some of the more fun bits way more times than that XD). I've even watched all three movies with the cast commentary.
But you know what I've never done, not even at the height of my obsession when I had way more free time than I do now? I've never watched the movies with the other commentaries. It looks like there are three more commentaries, with different groups of various people on the crew, and for some reason I never got around to listening through them. I can't for the life of me think why - maybe I thought I already knew everything they'd talk about? maybe I somehow thought it would be boring??? - but today that changes!
I'm going to just jot down the main things that stick out to me that I didn't know before. I've gleaned a lot of BTS information and stories about these movies from various sources, so I'm not sure how long this will be, but I'm sure there will be some new things that jump out at me.
From the FotR writer/director commentary with Peter Jackson, Philippa Boyens, and Fran Walsh:
There was a draft of the script where they didn't have a prologue, and all the information about Sauron and the Ring and Gollum and everything was going to be in that conversation between Frodo and Gandalf @_@ Can you imagine? I mean, yeah, it would be more like the book, but At What Cost? (At the cost of several memes and short attention spans, that's what.)
Peter Jackson says he doesn't like magic or wizards in movies. Um...sir? Why the heck are you making fantasy movies then???
The location where they shot the Ford of Bruinen was a real ford that was used during the gold rush in New Zealand! Because New Zealand had a gold rush around the same time as the one in the U.S.!
Hugo Weaving actually did the voice of Isildur when he claims the Ring and says, "No." I have...questions.
Peter Jackson says the journey through Moria is the best sequence in the book, and Fran and Philippa say it's the best-written chapter. Interesting! I don't know what I would point to as the best-written chapter of FotR; I don't think I've ever thought of that (though I might say some of the best descriptions in this book are in Rivendell).
They said they might redo the Gollum scene in Moria to make him look more like he does in TTT. Uhhh...it's been 23 years, guys, where's my remaster? XD
The Frodo-Gandalf conversation in Moria (the "all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us" conversation) was done with forced perspective??? I never realized that! I thought they just had Elijah sit a little lower than Ian so their eyelines would be right! They totally look like they're looking into each other's eyes, but they're not! :O
"Often in movies, that's a rare thing, to have shots in which nothing is real." - Oh, PJ, if you only knew what the state of things would be in two decades....
The scene of the Fellowship mourning Gandalf outside Moria was filmed before Ian McKellan had even arrived in New Zealand! :O So they were all mourning and reacting to the death of someone they probably weren't even sure what he looked like yet!
Sean Bean was apparently the only one of the primary actors who had any experience with a sword? Or at least he had the most experience. Viggo had to do the Weathertop fight scene on his first day, when he'd never touched a sword before @_@
In Boromir's death scene, the words sung by the chorus in the background is an Elvish translation of Faramir's line "I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend." ;A;
At one point, they were going to have Frodo fighting off an Uruk-Hai before he goes into the boat??? They even shot some of the footage?! Thankfully, they realized that was completely the wrong way to go about his end to this movie; it needed to be an emotional climax, not an action scene, and Frodo's victory is over his own doubts and the Ring's influence on him, when he grasps the Ring and marches forward to continue on his Quest, alone if need be. Thank goodness they realized that before it was too late.
SEAN ASTIN WAS NOT UNDERWATER IN THE SHOT OF HIM DROWNING WHAAAAAT MIND BLOWN
The shot of Boromir's boat going over the edge of the waterfall was actually footage of a barrel going over the Niagara Falls, and they just used CG to replace the barrel with the boat O.O
Fran Walsh: So Viggo's just put on Boromir's gauntlets... Me, a nerd: Vambraces, actually.
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milton-dammers · 1 month
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It was 20 years ago today :: The Return of the King sweeps to win all of its 11 nominations at the Academy Awards, 29 February 2004. The Oscars went to Barrie Osborne, Peter Jackson, and Fran Walsh for Best Picture; Peter Jackson for Best Director; Fran Walsh, Philippa Boyens, and Peter Jackson for Best Adapted Screenplay; Howard Shore for Best Original Score; Fran Walsh, Howard Shore, and Annie Lennox for Best Original Song; Grant Major, Dan Hennah, and Alan Lee for Best Art Direction; Jim Rygiel, Joe Letteri, Randall William Cook, and Alex Funke for Best Visual Effects; Christopher Boyes, Michael Semanick, Michael Hedges, and Hammond Peek for Best Sound Mixing; Ngila Dickson and Richard Taylor for Best Costume Design; Jamie Selkirk for Best Film Editing; and Richard Taylor and Peter King for Best Makeup. Liv Tyler introduced the nominated performances for Best Original Song (including 'Into the West,' performed during the show by Annie Lennox), and Ian McKellen presented ROTK's Best Picture reel. Joining the cast and creatives onstage for the Best Picture award were Robert Shaye and Michael Lynne from New Line Cinema.
[ The Wellington premiere of ROTK | Air Frodo from NZ to LA | Los Angeles | Berlin | London | New York (1) | New York (2) | Empire's LOTR Celebration booklet photography | Empire's outtakes | Critics Choice and People's Choice Awards | National Board of Review Awards | Producers Guild Awards | Tokyo (1) | Tokyo (2) | Golden Globes | Empire Awards | BAFTAs | SAGs | Oscars (1) ]
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mythcreant · 2 years
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Peter Jackson’s highly underrated horror-comedy, The Frighteners – about con-man Michael J. Fox, who uses his powers to interact with ghosts as a scan to rip off the living, only to find himself pitted against a dead serial killer claiming victims in real time – was released on July 19, 1996.
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The frightners as a movie is objectively not great but there is a bit where the ghost of michael j fox stands on top of a cop car and shoots at the spectre of death with two ghost machine guns. plus jeffrey combs is there so 5 stars.
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