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kspengineer · 7 months
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joashinray · 7 months
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tugadork · 1 year
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Discussing Hans' Hypothetical Return in Frozen 3
So... been a long while since I've made a post on here. For the few Frozen peeps who follow me, my Fractured fan-fic is currently on an indefinite hiatus (I still very much plan to continue writing it and seeing it through to the end and actually post it at some point, but writer's block continues to pester me and I still need much more storybeats to properly flesh out before I get any serious work done; by now I've only written like half the prologue section).
With that out of the way, and with Frozen 3 being officially greenlit, the question still wonders in the air whether or not everyone's favorite dastardly prince has the opportunity to make a comeback after being left out of Frozen 2 (though, at least we know via that one Santino Fontana's old interview that Hans was intended to be a part of the second movie very early on during development, or at least, the idea itself was discussed).
As of right now, and realistically speaking, I don't think it's very likely for a few reasons: Jen Lee clearly has changed her mind between Frozens 1 and 2 in regards to Hans' character so I don't believe she would begin to consider revisiting his character; him literally being called an unreedemable monster by Elsa in F2 is not a good indication for any chances of a redemption arc with him should he return; in that one group interview with Santino, Josh Gad and the Lopez a few years back, Hans was brought up and Gad even supported the idea of him coming back for a Frozen 3, but Santino seemed very hesitant to the idea so, if he doesn't want to do it assuming they want Hans back, then I don't think he would do it (unless maybe they give the character some depth or give him an overall importance to the plot. I don't know, something that could convince him to come back to the role.)
But I also like to consider what-ifs, and one of those what-ifs is with what to do with Hans' character should he be revisited, because there are quite a few storytelling routes they could go with him, which I will discuss below and you guys can tell me your thoughts if you're particularly interested. These are just basic ideas that came to my head:
1 - Hans is hellbent on revenge against the Arendelle sisters, is the main villain of Frozen 3 and somehow manipulates his family (who is 100% innocent and comprised of good people) into starting a war with Arendelle because of Elsa's unlimited power; still being portrayed as he was during the fireplace scene in F1. [a very generic and boring option for me; many people take issue with how almost unnatural his shift to mustache-twirling villain was, so fleshing his character out a little, villainous or not, I think would help in the long run. Plus, him being the sole main villain would get stale imo]
2 - Like F2 and Frozen Fever, Hans does return somewhat but is made into nothing but a punchline throughout the whole movie, aka the General Hux effect while one or some of his family members play the main villain(s) and ridicule him. [the least interesting and most cringeworthy route to take, and the joke would get old real fast. Not to mention, canonically speaking, Hans' family life hasn't been... great, so I feel like portraying an abusive family relationship like this, even if Hans isn't a good person, would be very uncomfortable and send the wrong message]
3 - Hans' abhorrent actions and consequences, as well as his backstory bit by bit, are fully explored, and he's disowned and exiled by his family following a trial that takes place shortly after his arrival home. Stewing with anger and resentment as he wanders alone, he is eventually approached by the actual main villain (another elemental user would be cool and long overdue for these movies in my eyes) and is ironically manipulated into taking vengeance against those he feels wronged him (Anna and Elsa included) when said villain promises him the rule of the Southern Isles and the happiness he so desires. The villain only intends to use him for their own agenda and someone to take the fall for their actions, choosing to stay in the shadows until the right moment to strike. Hans goes along with the plan, and at first he's thrilled and vindicated, but one tragic moment shatters his concept of morality (this could be any number of things as long as it results in him having a serious wake-up call) and makes him realize how catastrophically wrong his actions are and not being able to cope with it. In the end though, and through moments of actual self-reflection, he helps Frohana to take down the main villain. If he dies, then Anna realizes that people aren't black-and-white like in the storybooks she read as a kid, and decides to forgive him despite what he's done, while Elsa does not. If he survives, either Anna still forgives him or none of the sisters forgive him, but they recognize the change in his character. Hans ultimately gets to make a life for himself, one where he's not shackled by the past. Also, he gets to interact with Olaf in this (seriously guys, immediate comedic potential here, this is literally one of the reasons why I want them to bring Hans back) and Kristoff which he never got to do in the first one. [this, to me, would be much more interesting. Hans' actions would not be taken lightly and the story would later punish him, but through that experience owning up to his mistakes and starting to atone; maybe meeting a few commoners during his exile which he eventually grows to care for or something would gradually kickstart his change. I really love this concept and will probably make a separate post on this that's much more elaborate and better detailed if anyone's interested. It would have to be a different beast than Fractured though, and less of a handful to write for 😅]
4 - Hans is brought back and is still portrayed as a villain, but is given the proper time for his character to be explored and given depth. He also gets an actual villain song. He plots to take vengeance on those who wronged him, but instead of being portrayed as the cunning snake he was in F1, it's more a drive out of desperation and anger. He ends up doing things he would not normally do, horrible things that do weigh on his mind but he pushes on because he sees no other way to claim his happiness; that since barely anyone cared for him when he was younger, that he learned to only care for himself. He's given moments to stop what he's doing and not escalate things further, and despite pausing, he still chooses the worst option. In the end he becomes his own worst enemy, and accidentally dies by his own hand. His defeat is not something that brings either Elsa or Anna joy despite how much he's wronged them and how justified they'd be feel some relief, his family is affected by it, and so the ending of the movie is bittersweet. [let me start off by saying that there is no way in hell Disney would have the cajones to do something this depressing, but man I would kind of love it if they did. One thing I do love about the idea of bringing Hans back and keeping him a villain is turning him into a Shakesperean tragedy, and his quest to claim his happiness by any means unnecessary would be so compelling to watch imo. Sort of similar to Lord Shen from Kung Fu Panda 2 in that regard. You could still have another villain in this, either one with powers - seriously, introduce another elemental user in Frozen 3, Disney, pretty pls - or one/some of his family members that are up to their own nefarious plots]
And that's it! Let me know which plot idea sounds good to you or if a combination of certain elements from all these would be more preferable in your opinion for his hypothetical return. 👍
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vincence · 10 months
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Happy Birthday My Queen Anna✨
and....!
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Doodling is not allowed on the Queen's official poster😂
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pandaram · 3 months
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This should've been Frozen 2 ❄️😒
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jasminebelle096 · 4 months
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I've been seeing this Twitter trend for a while now and I thought huh...why not doing it?
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yeah I know my two biggest comfort characters are from the same franchise but who cares
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meegan420 · 6 months
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Frozen Elsa gif (my hamster peaches)
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horrorartist23 · 7 months
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My drawing spree
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Some of my many pieces I drew earlier this morning between 1-3 am. And a few hours ago
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trapezequeen · 1 year
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The Smolder -> Olaf Presents
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piny1234 · 2 years
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I wish they’re were friends 🥺
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Once Upon a Studio (Series) Season One; Episode Two: The Dalmatian Puppy-Sitters
Info: When Kristoff, Sven, Mole, Water Rat and J. Thaddeus Toad were asked to looked after the puppies of Pongo and Perdita who going out for a walk with Roger and Anita, the gang had no idea that these mischievous puppies can have a chaotic times for them that they need backups!
Characters who would be in this episode; 101 dalmatian puppies, Pongo, Perdita, Roger, Anita, Kristoff, Sven, Olaf, Anna, Elsa, Mole, Water Rat, J. Thaddeus Toad, Magic Carpet, Aladdin, Abu, Iago, the Genie, Judy Hopps, Nick Wilde and Minnie Mouse
Note: I’m planning to do once upon a studio series as everyone wants to see if they can lend a hand for me by likes, comments, reblogs their ideas and create arts if they wants
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indarlingarmor · 1 year
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Day 22: make it pink, make it blue
With the big summer blowout at Wandering Oaken’s, you can have both!
Amaya as Anna
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Coat: RH Stella; tank: ily Ariel; boots: ily Aurora pack; shirt & skirt: RH Coco
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vladyslavdembik · 1 year
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Olaf the Giant.
The other day I watched the movie Frozen. I liked the idea of the giants in part 2, so I decided to sketch Olaf if he was a giant.
I wouldn't say he turned out Disney style, but honestly, I wasn't trying to xD
I think from time to time I will do design sketches of characters and objects from games, books and movies.
And at the same time I will work on original concepts.
I would like to draw more. But mostly, of course, the amount of content will depend on the health of my hand and the situation in the country.
I'll try to show more interesting stuff in the near future.
Stay tuned.
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wassermaus-art · 9 months
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Olaf Propaganda
died because his creator died, prompting a really sad mourning song about grief (but it was about his creator even though he was the one who died in front of Anna before she started singing)
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jasminebelle096 · 6 months
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So, about the Disney short movie Once upon a studio...
Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful. The nostalgia crushed me like crazy. All those characters, with majority of them who made my childhood. And gosh I missed the old 2d animation so much, thus it was nice to see it again after years.
Mickey with the picture of Walt Disney, with Walt's favorite song in the background, so much emotions, literally a father and son moment you can't change my mind of that
But what made my heart explosed of joy is when Genie appeared in front of Olaf. Not only it's such a great tribute to Robin Williams (rest in peace), two of my COMFORT CHARACTERS ARE IN THE SAME FUCKING ROOM
AND THEY SEEM HAPPY TO BE WITH EACH OTHER
THEY GETTING ALONG SO WELL I'M CRYING 😭😭😭
I WAITED FOR THIS MOMENT FOR SO LONG
Ok I stop
So yeah this movie, although short, is just so refreshing compared to those live-action remakes. Finally the Disney crew answered to our prayers and brought us something that our inner child cannot ignore, going back in that time when everything used to be easy
Thank you Disney, thank you for giving us inspirations, happiness and dreams
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