#fuck cisnormativity

[enbyvogue]

Genderfluid silhouet corset by Jean-Paul Gaultier

#enby vogue #enby fashion #genderless fashion #enby aesthetic #androgynous #queer #androgyny #fashion #queer beauty #genderless #genderfluid #jean paul gaultier #jean Paul Gaultier corset #jean Paul gaultier runways #clothes have no gender #genderless clothing #non binary #enby vibes #fuck cisnormativity #fuck gender norms #gender neutral clothing #gender neutral fashion #enby style

[hobohobgoblim]

#not gay as in happy but queer as in fuck you #queer liberation #destroy this society #trans liberation #bashback #fuck capitalism #fuck heteronormativity #fuck cisnormativity #be queer #light fascists on fire

[uncanny-tranny]

I think when people talk about things like desirability, they can miss the deeper point of why it can be important to analyze why people are seen as undesirable. It isn't just that a type of person is just... not hot... but often, it's the dehumanization of a person based on marginalized features.

For instance, I had a conversation with somebody about disability portrayal in media, and we had agreed that, historically, disability had been portrayed as a horrific ordeal. However, I think they missed the point as to why the "undesirable disabled" character was so appealing to a broader audience. The idea that disability is other, inhuman, and something that depersonalizes somebody from society is partly why those ideas were and are prevalent in mainstream media and culture. It is the idea that "nobody likes you. Nobody needs you. Nobody wants you" because of the person's marginalized body or experience or whatever it may be.

It isn't some superficial "oh why aren't I seen as pretty by everybody?" It is the knowledge that you are portrayed as undesirable in this way because it is a way to separate you from everybody else. It isn't about beauty, nor is it a selfish desire to be wanted by somebody. It is the desire to be seen as a person - an equal, regardless of who desires you or who does not.

#beauty culture #desirability politics #ableism #ableism tw #i brought up media but it doesn't solely apply to that and the same with disability #i just thought the conversation perfectly encapsulated my frustration with how people interact with desirability #because some people go at it with the assumption that it is shallow and vapid and vain to want to have people change their perspective... #...about how they view a marginalized status #like when trans people have criticism of desirability favouring cisnormativity fot instance - people assume it is vapid and vain... #..but it is us asking to be seen as PEOPLE even *if* we aren't fucking ~desirable~ by everybody. your desires shouldn't impact us like that #our lives shouldn't hinge on us fighting to be seen as human beings - we shouldn't need to fight tooth and fucking nail for it #i've been thinking about that conversation for a while now and it's kind of nice to somewhat flesh out my problems with it all #i have no ill-will to the person i was talking to and about. we just went at the premise in different ways and i have different ideas #i don't think the person is Bad and Horrible. i think that they AND i are impacted by this and we have different experiences

[shmaroace]

big fan of how being aspec completely changes your view of society. i think everyone should try it at least once

#you start with heteronormativity and then youre like holy shit this thing called amatonormativity also exists #and it fucks everyone up wayyyyy more #bonus level: you are not cisgender and have to attack cisnormativity too #just like. getting out of the box society built for you and seeing that everyone else is stuck in a box too #aro #aromantic #arospec #ace #asexual #acespec #aroace #aspec

[matoitech]

it’s obviously important for ppl to criticize misogyny particularly transmisogyny in trans male communities since thats a trans community issue but if ur also tme and the only thing u ever exclusively talk about trans men for is talking abt us as bigoted misogynists (usually there’s a ‘binary’ slapped in front of it) i genuinely think you need to put the phone down go outside and remember that whatever insane misogynist guys online are saying is not a necessarily a reflection of like things adult men outside of a weird fringe group of freak transmisogynist dudes on tumblr who think the boys should get our own word JUST like the GIRLS or its NOT FAIR!! or whatever (and one coined by a fucking terf at that..) are saying, or justification for behaving weirdly about an entire diverse community of trans people.

again i do not say this to like dissuade ppl from discussing legitimate problems but like a couple points- 'binary' trans men r capable of talking about it ourselves, and we do, and we’re not the ones whose posts get shared about it. and second: if you’re only bringing us up to talk abt how shitty particularly TRANS men are you might have a problem you need to deal with? this is not a shocking statement. like at some point someone has to point it out to you and sit there and take the shit and patiently explain to you it’s that the problem comes when its literally the ONLY thing you bring us up for and act like we're not capable of talking abt this ourselves, and that its a problem how comfortable ppl r for letting ppl speak over/for us if the only similarity they share w trans men is.. an agab and not being cis (yikes!). or if theyre transmasc and male aligned in some capacity but dont have any interest in engaging with or considering themselves a part of like trans men, THEYRE the ones who need to talk abt it, bcuz the (usually 'binary') Trans Men wont (not saying those ppl cant or shouldnt but they may be treated differently for doing so)

first ppl liked using transmeds existing to throw up justification for treating us like a bigoted monolith you (uniquely) Just Dont Feel Safe Around and its normal to make assumptions abt us being transphobic especially if we don't identify by labels deemed 'safe' and Inherently More Radical, and now its pretending we all collectively cant recognize our privilege thru our intense blinding hatred of women and its up to you to save us from ourselves and beat some common sense into the inherently bigoted stupid about gender patriarchy dicksucker boys. like i dont know im tired of it when trans men being accused of only existing bcuz we want to be patriarchy bootlickers i guess is always what radfems have thrown at us, so its not like this negative perception of trans men filtered thru a supposedly progressive lense is new. a lot of adult trans men dont talk abt like particular hot shit thats discussed a lot on here rn (the 'trans misandry' shit for example) bcuz its was not a problem in the spaces we're in and we knew it was stupid as fuck right away and barely worth talking about to say 'yeah you know that thing we all know is stupid and bullshit? its stupid and bullshit'. bcuz we're not fifteen years old or weird misogynists. we have brains, don't hate women, and we dont all know and hang around the same people.

anyway dont take this post as a stand in for serious discussion and calling out misogyny (again especially transmisogyny) w other men, those posts do need to exist, i am not trying to say this stuff shouldnt be talked about. what i'm specifically pointing out is a frustrating pattern in the perception of and discussion of trans men that ppl probably dont realize theyre participating in. i do think it is very important to talk abt community issues and criticisms but if its literally the one thing you bring up trans men for i think being aware of that behavior has no NEGATIVES here. also do have to bring up i specified other tme ppl early on bcuz this isnt smth ive experienced or seen from transfems and their position as like the affected party of transmisogyny is automatically like .. if they have issues w trans men it is pretty inherently coming from a different place than like, a cis womans, or a tme nonbinary person, or a transmasc person with issues with trans men, or a cis mans, etc. tme ppl who are on a very different ground here, whose behavior is straight up different anyway

#this isnt @ anyone this is like . a common thing rn #its a seperate post but i think ppls just total unawareness that trans men have made any contributions to like #academic discussion abt transphobia along with trans women (sometimes literally discussing our experiences together!) is kind of bizarr #u know online discourser misogyny boys r not reflective of the actual adult intersectional (cant remember if thats the right word its 2 am #lol) discussion of our experiences that MUST be done in order to have like any solid understanding of how to fix this shit #you cant just ignore the experiences of trans men and think ur understanding of gender is good lol #there r many ppl who r invested in talking abt it in a way thats like normal and mature #and it DEPENDS on trans womens experiences and pov too to make a more fully realized understanding of trans ppls lived experiences #and how we can fix cisnormativity and sexism and shit without pretending like disappearing gender is gonna do anything #except be boring as fuck and not realistic. what if we all lived in someone elses fantasy utopia that is not a utopia for a lot of transppl #and believing online discourse misogyny boys when they tell you no one else cares abt trans men but THEM >:( is like. dumb as fuck #there have been ppl discussing their experiences in an actually nuanced and Gives A Shit way for decades. academically. go find it

[lostlovepunk]

it's so fucked up that the medical system is so cis-standardised that there's trans people who think "well i'd rather die of a preventable disease than tell any medical professional about this"

#this is mostly about me having a menstrual cycle that is out of the books of everything that's considered normal #but i knew if i told someone i'd most likely vet a prescription of a birth control pill to make it more frequent #and fuck i really don't want that #but like. until this year i didn't know this could be a pcos/hyperandrogenism symptom #so i was mostly in a mood of 'if i die bc of this so be it' #yeahh #trans #cisnormativity #spike spoke

[puppyboychewtoy]

ive tthought about gender & body & mind relations in Computer Words & am wondering if anyone else does the same

gender : software, OS & drivers (presentation : software, programs & apps)

hrt & 2ndary sex characteristics : firmware

top/bottom/ect surgery & primary sex characteristics : hardware

#please forgive the cisnormative language #but ive been saying stuff like 'id love to try topping someone but that wasn't my default hardware and i haven't done anything to rectify #that yet' to say in a minimally dysphoric/gendered way that i have no meat bits to fuck with and haven't bought a strap or bttm surgery yet #am i making any sensey..

[kaleidoscopic-quiddity]

ever wonder how badly skewed the statistics of trans men being murdered are by our families and/or the media portraying us as lesbians or cishet tomboys? how the same almost definitely goes for corrective rape, forced pregnancy, physical assault, domestic abuse, intentional medical malpractice, forced homeless, and pretty much every other hate crime?

ever think about how trans men are told that we're 'less oppressed' or 'benefit from male privilege' when really what actually happens is that the vast majority of violence towards us is taken out of context and painted as 'just' lesbophobia or misogyny rather than specific bigotry towards trans men by virtue of us being trans men?

because i sure do fuckin think about it all the time

#transgender #trans man #ftm #transmasculine #transphobia #and b4 anyone starts #yes ofc transmisandry is linked to lesbophobia and misogyny #but we wouldnt look at transmisogyny and go 'oh well thats JUST homophobia and cisnormativity' #like we accept that transmisogyny is its own thing that is LINKED to those other concepts but not wholly synonymous with them #same goes for this shit #yes a lot of transmisandrist violence is 'misdirected' misogyny and lesbophobia and cisnormativity #but trans men are also raped and killed BECAUSE we are trans men #fucking listen to us when we tell you that #tw: rape mention #tw: abuse mention #ask to tag #ALSO #i am not saying that lesbophobia and misogyny are not major issues #fucking of course they are #if thats genuinely what you take away from this post then go back to english class

[apocyan-bathed]

the thing with wanting to be butch while trans is that you have to balance being misgendered and dysphoric with presenting the aesthetic you want. and personally im just not comfortable with any misgendering, so ✨no butch for me✨

#venty #fuck the cistem #cisnormative bullshit

[divalestat]

iwtv twitter discourse be ruining my day like some ppl actually have no brain cells i fear...

#like i dont even participate i have a locked acc but omfg. #can we pls stop trying to apply brainless heteronormative cisnormative roles to lestat and louis #some of u want to trap everything in patriarchal restrictive binaries so bad and its weird as fuck and exhausting! move on! #not everything is so simple and black & white all the time esp in this series that explores sooo many diff rltnship dynamics #+ not to mention anne rice clearly had her own internal struggles with these concepts and used both lestat & louis to externalize them #and related to both of them at different stages and in various ways #also its straight up delusion 2 act like lestat is a stereotypical masculine man of his time lmfao #his demented little fairy faggot ass was getting clocked left & right i promise

[enbyvogue]

In love with @ruiofficial.me ‘s shapes and colorful patterns

#enby vogue #enby fashion #enby aesthetic #enby style #enby outfit #non binary vibes #fashion #genderless fashion #gender neutral clothing #clothes have no gender #degender fashion #fuck cisnormativity #androgynous

[party-gilmore]

“you’ve got he/him in your bio but you don’t even try to pass 🙄”

this is because i (a man) love cross-dressing (as a woman) hope that helps

#everyday im lucky enough my agab lets me live the dream 😔 #im going for a more humorous note here obvs so real talk ueah id like to look a more masc i love facial hair and sharp jaws #and i look fucking GOOD with them #but a) transitioning physically is a LOT of fucking koney and thats even IF you can land an appointment since every PP in the tristate area #is too full up in their hrt program to accept new patients #and b) no one should feel like they have to change their body if they’re happy with it just to suit what other people think that gender #should look like. its one thing to want to ‘pass’ to live more comfortably and easily in the cisnormative society we’re stuck with at #our jobs and schools and even families #but to hear ‘why dont you try to pass?’ as a blanket expectation of trans people whether or not they experience dysphoria? #congratulations you just invented cis binary gender expectations again 🙄 except THIS time we have to work even HARDER to meet them 🙄

[loop-deloo]

been having confusing thoughts about my boobs for a long time and i just realised that all of the things i like about them are either not specific to me (dude i’m a lesbian and i like boobs who’s surprised) or are in the inherent power of being powerful with boobs bc that’s also really hot (again, i will refer to the lesbian thing) and even more than that sometimes i don’t actively dislike having them but like… NOT having them would be. mmm

#i love gender being a fucking joke #my gender is closer to an apple than either side of the cisnormative spectrum

[therevengeoffrankenstein]

😒

#myevilposts #sighing so loud. #g-d i'm so pissed off. i hate misandrists soooo much i especially hate when they deny that that's what they are. #or act like they are somehow valid bc one (1) man was abusive towards them. #like honey my mom was both physically and mentally abusive to me and i don't hate women. it's very easy to not be a dick actually. #once again. what they should actually be angry about is the systemic issue of the patriarchy or their single abusive man. #not men as a whole. like it's so easy. #it's actually so easy to just hate shitty men and not men as a whole. btw. #also i can't believe people think my struggles to be included in discussions about pregnancy due to uninclusive language #(which is very very much a trans issue.) isn't real just because i'm a man. #honey. i have a womb. i can in theory get pregnant. i don't want to be misgendered and excluded from a conversation #that literally fucking applies to me and is important to my physical and mental health and well being. just because i'm a man. #i am being oppressed in this situation. that is what transandrophobia is. #like is the fact that people are calling pregnancy and abortion 'women's issues' and i'm like 'hey. those things apply to me #and i'm a trans man. please use inclusive language that doesn't misgender and/or exclude me.' and people are #like 'ugh shut up you're literally a man. you should deal with being excluded from this conversation. #that literally fucking applies to you and being misgendered by our language.' actually like progressive? #like do you think it's progressive to say that me getting misgendered and excluded from a conversation due to #cisnormativity is fine. because oh i'm a man. men aren't ever treated like shit ever. #when i am quite literally being shat on for being a man in this situation. despite it literally including me. #transphobia tw #like don't you all literally see that what you're saying is that misgendering is ok just because i'm a man? #and that my having to deal with pregnancy and abortion is invalid? just because i'm a man. and acting like that's a progressive thing #to say??? like literally stoppp. you are literally telling me. who is trans. and being oppressed bc i am trans. #that the transphobia that is specifically targeting me. bc i am trans. isn't real. bc i am a trans MAN specifically. #and like yes. i experience transandrophobia in real life. it is not just an 'online' issue bc no form of transphobia is.

[bloodmoths]

exclusionists are so weak and irritating. queer identities are constantly being oppressed/erased/etc by cisnormative hard rules. and you just want to set more rules? because you believe those identities are harming you in some way? do you realize how that makes you look

#you all seem to forget that it doesnt fucking matter to cisnormative people lol we're all the fucking same in their eyes #takes some serious privelege to feel the need to draw more lines