#fuck thomas astruc

[muggle-born-princess]

"AnDrE iS a GoOd FaThEr!"

Newsflash: Disowning your child all because they're a brat that you refuse to discipline and help them, and forcing them to live with an abusive parent or family member, which FYI, she literally calls her own daughter "a loser" in the end, isn't good parenting.

Oh and to any Chloe haters that think this is karma for all the bullying she did, do it yourself a favor and fuck off from my page now.

Abuse isn't discipline. Get the fuck over it.

#miraculous ladybug #ml salt #miraculous s5 #ml leaks #ml s5 leaks #ml s5 spoilers #miraculous revolution #chloe bourgeois #audrey bourgeois #andre bourgeois #chloe deserves better #chloe sugar #queen bee sugar #andre bourgeois salt #audrey bourgeois salt #fuck thomas astruc

[chloenism]

throwback to the time someone asked TA about his opinion on lukloe and he said they wouldn't be good together because they're total opposites and i was just like "lmao well sucks to be you because that shit is my jam"

brooo he said that as if THE FUCKING LOVE SQUARE ISNT THE “OPPOSITE” OF EACH OTHER ??? 😭

and like total opposite tropes are so GOOD tho!! its not boring if its well-written

#lukloe #love square #chloe bourgeois #luka couffaine #FUCK THOMAS ASTRUC

[wingedshoes]

glaciator is literally the easiest villain to defeat but he always appears when marinette is going through 55 years worth of self-realization discourse, adrien is feeling confused, ladybug is distracted by cute boys and chat noir is internally depressed and that is so

#I HATE MY FRIEND PRISHA ATP #THIS SHOW RUINS MY LIFE #FAVOURITE EPISODE #WOW I REALLY THOUGHT NOTHING COULD TOP CHAT BLANC #exaltation #ml season 5 #ml spoiler #ml exaltation #marinette dupain cheng #ladybug #marichat #marichat MY HEART I CRIED SO MUCH IN THIS #fuck thomas astruc #adrien agreste #chat noir #miraculous ladybug

[bellamer]

Was rewatching Heavy Metal and Queen Bee came on and it describes my feelings towards Chloe. I wanna steal her away from Thomas Astruc and the rest of the Miraculous Ladybug writers and the fandom. No one can see what she means to me and fuck the writers for taking away her redemption arc and her miraculous and fuck her mary sue sister Zoe. Chloe will always be my Queen Bee. Fuck anyone who says otherwise. I hate how everyone else gets a Miraculous but they do Chloe dirty because the writers have the writing skills of inconsistent of 12 year olds.

#miraculous ladubug #chloe bourgeois #queen bee #fuck thomas astruc #miraculous tales of ladybug and chat noir

[dumbassdeny]

I love looking at miraculous ladybug redesigns,,, it just gives me hope that one day miraculous will get a reboot and the good writing it deserves instead of the garbage it is now

#miraculous #mlb salt #fuck thomas astruc

[688199]

Astruc’s bullshittery: Debunking his tweets

Astruc’s tweets and claims about Felix is something I would never understand. He contradicts himself, for what? To make people hate Felix?

Case 1:

Sure he isn’t referring directly to this “version”. But when the PV was made, the concept of polar opposites was established, even shown through the early storyboards with Chat Noir presenting Ladybug with candles. It may not be a curse here yet, but it shows that Chat Noir was always meant to genuinely love Ladybug.

So it proves that the concept of Felix pretending to love Ladybug is a very “one-off” idea. Heck, even in the PV, you can see Felix being quite eager to transform. Does he look cursed to you?

Lastly, the existence of the 2012 bible is evidence that it’s possible to make Felix/ Chat Noir have an ulterior motive behind being flirtatious yet at the same time not moving away from his love for Ladybug.

Case 2:

In what way is this mysterious and evil? Again, even though Felix has the “Adrien” name in the bible, it’s obvious that Astruc is separating Felix (suit wearing, dark personality boy) with Adrien (the canon one).

It is true that Felix may be a bit evil, with that one singular image of him dropping an apple on Marinette’s head. But it’s a super early concept that isn’t present in the bibles (further supported by the fact they are shown to be able to use powers without transformation, and Felix being a pure misfortune manipulator.), meaning the idea didn’t reach that far into pre production.

That version of Felix is also shown more in Quantic Kids concepts, and even then, he was shown being slightly affectionate towards Marinette (cue that image of him smiling at her).

Instead of mysterious and evil, Felix had been long moulded more into someone who is driven, confident and dark (sarcastic). There’s way more art and descriptions depicting him that way.

Astruc even contradicts himself here when he says he cannot imagine Marinette liking Felix because it’s so clearly stated here why she does.

Not only that, Felix is written to have a soft side which he doesn’t show others. He even has fondness towards Marinette. But he doesn’t allow himself to fall in love. This means he actually sees himself falling for her if he gets distracted.

Overall, Felix might have underwent a very rough patch with him being mysterious and evil like what Astruc says (though in the fandom this version is often referred to as Nathan), but the development of his character shows that there was a lot of focus on improving Felix.

The time where Felix officially “became” Adrien is a few months after the earliest bible we have, where you can see the most changes being applied to the “Adrien” name. He doesn’t have a picture attached to the description (showing how they were still coming up with his design), he’s Papillon’s son, and has the goal of wanting to fit in rather than healing his leg. This is “Adrien” and no longer “Felix”.

Based on what Astruc said, he came up with “Adrien” because blah blah blah, but the Felix we’re seeing in the earliest bible is the same Felix he was dealing with before he came up with “Adrien”. Which, in my opinion, had quite a bit of depth to him that could be written well.

So is Astruc just straight up lying/ exaggerating Felix’s development and character in order to justify his decision to replace him with Adrien?

Adrien is significantly easier to write about as he’s more one dimensional, whereas Felix has a lot more inner conflict happening.

Maybe that’s why Astruc said: “Try writing Felix for 72 episodes”. He’s admitting to being a bad writer :/

#ladybug classic #precanon ladybug #ladybug precanon #ladybug pv #felix sphinx #thomas astruc #he can go fuck himself

[weirdgirl92]

Dear Mr. Astruc,

You can call Chloe irredeemable and a lost cause all you want, but this moment will forever stay in my head rent free.

#rewatched more of seasons 1 and 2 last week #and I just couldn’t stop thinking about this scene from zombizou #miss boustier should’ve adopted chloe by the end of season 2 #fuck andre and audrey #this episode still happened so it’s technically canon #miraculous ladybug #chloe bourgeois #thomas astruc salt

[gryficowa]

I know, I haven't posted about miracolous and what Thomas Astruc does for a long time, but I haven't been able to think about it lately

Palestine has absorbed me and that's why I don't have the strength to follow Thomas Astruc and his writing decisions

I also found out that Israel killed a Pole (I'm from Poland and that's why it affected me)

I rather doubt that I will be able to go back to riding Thomas Astruc like before

#thomas astruc #thomas astruc salt #miracolous ladybug #ml salt #free palestine #palestine #free gaza #gaza strip #gaza genocide #gaza #gazaunderattack #fuck israel #israel is a terrorist state #israel #isreal #israhell #isrtm starter #israël

[cvntkisser]

Tfw you go from i love this show/book/movie but it just needed better character writing and less plot holes and better world building and better this and better that and you slowly realise you never even liked the actual piece of media but instead you liked the concept and you liked what could've been done with the concept if it had a better creator.

#this is usually accompanied by reading an absurd amount of fanfiction to cope #miraculous ladybug #miraculous lb #miraculoustalesofladybugandcatnoir #mlb fandom #mlb #thomas astruc #harry potter #fuck jkr #anti jkr #jk rowling is a transphobe #fanfiction #fandom #my hero academia #mha #anime and manga #anime #the school for good and evil #soman chainani #fanfic #mha fanfiction #mypo)t #rantish

[hope-i-dont-choke]

I hate that Miraculous tried to use the fact that Mylene’s mother ‘also’ abandoned her as a way to say that Chloé’s behaviour is unforgivable. Audrey didn’t ‘abandon’ her, she strolled in whenever she felt like it and spent every moment in the presence of her daughter talking down to her like wasn’t worth shit and making it clear the only way Chloe could ever earn the slightest bit of positive attention from her mother was by treating people in that same disgusting cruel way. She also lied to her daughter her entire life about having a sister. Also Andre is the fucking mayor, you think he has all the time in the world to be a real dad enough to help Chloe heal? Look by comparison we don’t actually know how old Lila is because we don’t even know who she really is which is what makes her a terrifying villain and easy to call irredeemable. But Chloe is a child, a fucking child, who cries when she realises she’s made horrible mistakes and clearly has deep regrets, she will never be an irredeemable villain, she will always be an abuse victim

#Miraculous #fuck you thomas astruc #chloe bourgeois #defense squad unite

[motherofplatypus]

Guess Thomas also works for instagram now 😂

#new rule on insta: NEVER talk about Chloe's redemption arc #this is pathetic #seriously IG has been on my tail for months and deleting my comments and banned me arbitrarily #sure ive been vocal about my stance against a genocide but come on #this is pathetic even for their standard #not like they have one at this point #miraculous ladybug #miraculous #mlb #miraculous salt #ml salt #mlb salt #thomas astruc salt #thomas astruc #fuck instagram #fuck zuckerberg

[muggle-born-princess]

So wait.

When Chloe uses a Miraculous for selfish desires, she is condomed for her actions.

But when Gabriel uses a Miraculous to literally DESTROY the goddamn world, he's considered a hero?!

#WHAT THE FUCK MAN?! #what in the motherfucking FUCK?! #how is this guy sympathetic and redeeming?! #FUCKING HOW?! #HOW IS THIS DUDE MORE REDEEMABLE THAN A 14 YEAR OLD?! #Dude literally sacrificed himself to DESTROY THE MOTHERFUCKING GODDAMN WORLD! #HE BASICALLY KILLED EVERYONE JUST TO GET A HAPPY ENDING! #yet when Chloe almost causes a train wreck she's deemed as a new Satan?! #this double standard bullshit of a show #ugh! so fucking over this crap! #fuck thomas astruc #fuck miraculous #mlb salt #miraculous ladybug #gabriel salt #gabriel agreste #gabriel agreste salt

[fl4ky-sc3nek1d]

me when thomas zay any zhit that comez of hiz mouth:

#miraculous #miraculous ladybug #miraculoustalesofladybugandcatnoir #thomas astruc #anti thomas astruc #thomas astruc salt #bro thiz man iz annoying az fuck #i can't handle him anymore

[wisteriasymphony]

me: :/

me: *thinks about how Viperius's whole gimmick as the "hot one/ ladykiller" of the group is because he's a pun on "snake charmer"*

me: :)

#I don't always cook #but when I do #I FUCKING COOK #luka also has snakebite piercings btw. #and you could say his whole attitude of picking up girls with the intent on ghosting them after a one-night stand means he's a bit of a.... #snake in the grass? #THOMAS ASTRUC COULD NEVER THAT'S ALL I'M FUCKING SAYING #thewarmembraceofshadow #miraculous fanfic #tweos viperius #tweos luka couffaine #Viperius #viperion #miraculous lb #miraculous fandom #luka couffaine

[its-dark-girl]

I feel like the miraculous power creep issue could've been solved if the 12 zodiac miraculouses were the ones lost instead of astruc and his team making more. it couldve also solved the problem of the eagle miraculous being the miraculous of freedom, when it shouldve been like the miraculous of love since thats what the eagle represents in the 7 grandfather teachings which ties back to its user being an Indigenous person. it probably would not have been correct representation but woudlve been better than the eagle miraculous representing freedom of all things.

that way the black cat and ladybug miraculous would make sense to be bad luck and good luck respectively, since in China they both mean good luck in general.

also the black cat miraculous holder should always be the one to destroy akumas

#im Finally getting around to posting this #yes this is in response to the ABSURDITY thats the rooster miraculous. what the fuck do you mean it has the power to grant a wish #making it better than the FUCKING MIRACULOUS OF CREATION???? #mlb salt #thomas astruc salt #mlb critical #crit #idk tho #its dark girl thoughts

[688199]

i will, don’t test me thomas doodooballs. my hatred for you triumphs everything 🔥🔥🔥 once i familiarise myself with mlb (🤮) i will maybe write a test script for an episode.

thomas and his writing team is proof that just because you have a job in something doesn’t mean you’re good at it.

huge rant and ramble:

as an avid enjoyer of story telling, i strongly despise everyone behind the writing of mlb.

firstly, marinette is supposed to have bad luck through her ditziness. i watched a few episodes, and her “bad luck” seems to just be with anything regarding adrien? it’s actually just more of her being obsessive and leading to stupid mistakes. on the other hand, bridgette obviously has bad luck. getting drenched, burning her tongue, yet she smiles through it. THIS IS POTENTIAL FOR BRIDGETTE’S CHARACTER. marinette’s character has never been properly explained. why is she this way? why is she different as ladybug? (honestly is she even different? kinda, but it’s not obvious) we sure do know why adrien is more carefree as chat noir. but not marinette. on the other hand, the set up for bridgette’s character can lead to so many plot possibilities. why is she so optimistic? is it because it’s what is expected of her? is she purposefully dense? when she gets drenched by the car, she pauses for a short while looking solemn, then smiles. but that smile looks pained almost. like she’s sick of acting that way. (yes i know i’m looking too much into a pv but that’s the point. i’m saying why the pv has potential.) therefore, as ladybug, she can be herself. someone who does whatever she wants, going ahead without thought, being the person she cannot be. anyways, why the hell is marinette even in love with adrien anyways. he just gave her a god damn umbrella or smth idk. i believe my baby bridgette loves felix because she truly sees his soft side. it may be cliche but it sure is a better reason than an umbrella.

secondly, felix. thomas and his team said he was too much like a cliche male anime protagonist, and adrien would let them tell more interesting stories. i mean sure, but it’s most ironic how they even FAILED AT THAT. i rather a cliche male anime protagonist than bitch boy adrien who is as bland as cardboard. felix being cold to those around him is very reasonable because as a model, he’s used to people only liking him for looks and his money. he thinks that bridgette only likes him for those reasons, so he pushes her away. but as chat noir, felix, like bridgette, is able to be someone he truly feels. unrestrained by societal pressures. EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE BOTH POLAR OPPOSITES, ONE BEING COLD WHILE THE OTHER IS TOO WARM, THEY SUFFER FROM THE SAME ISSUES DEEP DOWN. AS HEROES THEY ARE THEMSELVES. ISNT THIS COOL????? ISNT THIS A GOOD STORYTELLING POINT?????????? then even though he needs to kiss ladybug to break the curse, he soon falls in love with her because he admires her boldness, which is something he lacks when he’s himself. he doesn’t have the courage to stand up against his father. i think mlb chat noir likes ladybug for similar reasons but i don’t remember it being connected like that. (never watched the entire 100+ episodes, only bits and pieces, and read up other stuff so might be wrong.)

i believe his team is just straight lazy. they watered down the relationships and characters to the point that dynamic contrast is just not as powerful as before. in early preproduction art, the concept shown is supposed to revolve heavily around the idea of opposites. marinette is now just an obsessive stalker and adrien takes it. chat noir flirts with ladybug and she takes it. where’s the rejection from the opposite party??? where’s the oomph?? where’s the spice???

i do enjoy the concept of them letting go of their crushes. but i didn’t like how it was done in the series. it’s as if the writers don’t fucking know the hell they’re going. felix struggles with understanding whether he truly loves bridgette or is it because of the effects of the ring’s curse. does he really want the curse to be gone? while it gives him bad luck, he gets to be himself. what does he truly want? for bridgette, she realises that she is bothering felix too much. wanting the best for him and for her to focus on being ladybug, she learns to leave him in the past for both their good. she also suffers with the weight of being the main heroine. even though she uses her identity as ladybug to be free of expectations and responsibilities, yet it’s coming back to haunt her so she starts to feel stress. while chat noir and bridgette backs away, felix and ladybug realise that they miss the other’s company since the other was always there for them when they needed it the most. the way this was written in mlb was awfully horrible.

look at what i can do thomas astruc, look at the potential. “their chemistry sucks it’ll never work” SUCK MY BALLS WHAT BULLSHIT IS THAT.

anyways, other than the obvious reason as to why the animation is a lot more visually striking and can express more things the cgi can’t (dynamic movement, special effects, etc) (funny enough, the people behind mlb said the cgi made the show more dynamic???), this is why the pv has much more potential and i will never stop believing that.

(also why didn’t the cgi ever put in effort to make ladybug and chat noir look different than their normal selves. it’s the biggest fucking plot hole that never attempts to change. even the pv tries to make bridgette’s hair change.) (sorry for low quality but see, her hair is more messy too.)

thomas astruc and zag you’re just lazy money grabbing bastards 🗣️ i stand by that. if you’re truly passionate about what you want to do (which i believe you guys were until you weren’t), you wouldn’t have sacrificed quality for money.

“the concept of the original show dealt with political themes geared towards teens and young adults but it failed to gain traction with networks so it retooled for a younger audience.” other than the team failing to realise that “cliche” doesn’t automatically mean bad, the other huge fault is that they think children are stupid and can’t handle heavier themes. look at bluey, look at all the series out there with a relatively large children audience which also deal with such stuff. it’s not impossible, it just needs exceptional writing skills. but what can i expect from a team like that.

sorry not sorry, i’m pretty mad. i have a lot of other complaints but i already spent 2h writing this. down with thomas astruc!!!!! all hail ladybug pv!!!!!!

#ladybug pv #thomas astruc #fuck you thomas astruc #bridgette cheng #i love bridgette so much #felix agreste #felix too #hey toei it’s time to make ladybug pv into an independent show and make sure not to hire anyone from the current mlb team hire me #i’m gonna cry myself to sleep