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#game of thrones negativity
hell-heron · 10 months
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GRRM makes the choice not to show us book Theon's POV before Bran and Rickon's escape, only through Bran's eyes. Thats a cool literary device and so heartbreaking, we are left to wonder oh Theon did it feel good at least while it was happening did you have time to feel any joy and vindication before it all went bad?
This left so much room for D&D to play with a contrast of before and after, lots of room for creative portrayal of this downfall arc, but they... Didn't really? Like obviously there was a downfall in a certain sense but Theon is absolutely in Theon VI mode from the very beginning. We have a scene of him bungling an execution and publicly breaking down, it's moved to before the escape. We have a scene of him being confronted by Ser Rodrik on his hostage/loyalty issues and just plainly admitting how traumatized he is because he's just that broken down and raw etc. And thats also moved before the escape. These are his first actions in Winterfell, in fact. I know time costraints etc but just... How the fuck do you read the Beth parley scene and not find it something so cinematic you absolutely must render, what's wrong with you, couldn't they just merge Beth and Jeyne if that was the issue?
We just get Theon being so sensitive and embarrassing and publicly spiraling from the start and everything that happens is a natural consequence of his own specific brand of patheticness present there from the start, downfall arc routed in the inherent impossibility of ruling mercifully in a conquest situation and cruelty of war etc what is that. Just as with Ramsay we'll helpfully be treated to many good reasons about how the Reek treatment Is tailored on Theon's specific oh so pathetic and sensitive individuality, alienating results of torture and Ramsay are an escapable force of evil what are those.
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fairybellworld · 2 years
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"If the world of men is to survive, a Targaryen must be seated on the Iron Throne. A king or queen. Strong enough to unite the realm against the cold and the dark."– King Viserys Targaryen
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Like I needed more proof that a faceless girl could kill the Night King. 😑 White Walkers were ice and dragons were fire. Only a Targaryen could have defeated them. You won’t change my mind.
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theotherpacman · 1 month
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one of the things that pisses me off the most about the atla reboot is
that they're COMPLETELY missing the point of zuko. zuko HAS to be the villain at first, has to be framed as merciless and cruel and evil and the epitome of the fire nation's greedy conquest of the world, so that it's SIGNIFICANT when you learn he's just a kid who wants to go home. just a kid who wants his dad to love him and has convinced himself that if he's good enough, he can earn that love. the point of zuko is to show the audience that the people we see as our enemies are human too. also, the point of zuko is that sometimes our anger and desperation get in our way and make us forget what's really important to us.
the netflix live action reboot is completely fucking this up. they're bringing in zuko's backstory WAY too early, throwing lines around about how his father banished him and he just wants to go home and see his family again. we're not supposed to know that about zuko yet. we're not supposed to know that his dad doesn't want him back or that his sister disdains him. moreover, ZUKO isn't supposed to acknowledge yet that what he wants most is his family's love - s1 zuko suppresses that shit hard. s1 zuko is all about restoring his honor, earning glory, winning his claim to the throne back. the reboot isn't giving him enough room to grow and change, and isn't giving the audience any room to change their view of him.
but that's just one of the things I hate about the reboot, there are many
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maddenedbythesstars · 6 months
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still baffled that one popular anti-dany argument pre s8 was that since she was wearing black she leaning toward the Dark Side™...... as if in the same series another unambigously heroic protagonist didn't enlist into the night's guard where everyone must wear black, and the series' author wasn't explicitly against this kind of stereotypical tropes lmao
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francy-sketches · 1 year
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the king of drip ✨
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volleypearlfan · 1 year
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“No OfFeNsE tO aDuLt BlUeY fAnS bUt ThAt Is A cHiLdReN'S sHoW. fOr PrEsChOoLeRs” ok and? Why do you think it’s so popular? Bitch there’s a reason why shows like Sesame Street have been on for decades, it’s because the show appeals to EVERYONE
Bluey is a happy baby who loves apple juice and cupcakes. She’s not your enemy. The fact that the OP of the post is actively propagating cringe culture and hating on other autistics is so…cringe. You’re an autistic who only likes “grownup” shows? Ok do you want a fucking trophy? Can we not shame other autistics for their harmless interests? (Before you ask, yes I do have mature™️ interests such as breaking bad. and I do want autistics to try new stuff and reach out of their comfort zones)
Anyways, if you harass ANYONE for liking Bluey or ANY other children’s show, I’ll sail across the ocean and shove an umbrella up your ass and open it. (Please check the tags. Also see this post I made)
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kaybaeisgay · 5 months
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it’s 2023…..can we pls quit with the arya vs sansa discourse holy shit. they’re sisters, not mortal fucking enemies.
as someone who admires each characters complexities, i seriously don’t understand why some fans are still arguing as if it isn’t possible to like them both
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gameofthronedd · 1 year
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Criticisms of Sansa as/being a static character or experiencing no character growth/development makes 0 sense to me.
Is her development more subtle? Yes. But it's there.
Does she have less development than other characters? Also yes. But not because she's less important or purposefully trying to remain the same.
She's physically trapped in a hostage situation. She is also mentally/emotionally trapped. She's walking on eggshells in a hostile court where she can't trust anyone. She doesn't have the opportunity to effectively grow and develop emotionally and mentally as a young girl should.
Arya is forced into the wider world to survive. She travels and meets people, and her narrative focuses a lot on her learning about the world. There is a stark difference in that Arya has an open world to explore, full of novelties and mentor figures, whilst Sansa is constantly confined and tied down to a particular place (whether it be the Red Keep, the Eyrie etc.).
I have a lot of thoughts on GRRM but he doesn't disappoint when it comes to building main characters with realistic portrayals of human nature, trauma etc. Sansa's static nature and gradual change is realistic, metaphorical/symbolic (mentally trapped, lost autonomy, stuck in time etc.) and adds a different pacing to a character arc.
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acepalindrome · 5 months
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DJenkins saying he wanted to end the season on an upbeat note and not fall back on ‘bury your gays’ is WILD. There’s literally a gay man buried in Ed and Stede’s yard, David. Did you forget about that one? Just like you forgot to actually let Ed and Stede get any kind of meaningful development that would make their happy ending feel remotely earned or satisfying?
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rxj-the-punk · 6 months
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Nothing better than logging into Crack Ship Sim. in the morning.
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One of the foundational things for arguing on the Internet or anywhere that I'm very glad my argumentative attorney parents taught me from early on is: if you're going to dish it out, you have to be willing to take it. If you're going to make a post you know will be controversial, you have to be ready for people to disagree with you. If you're going to write a story with a twist ending that you know will piss people off, you cannot be shocked when people are, in fact, pissed off. If you're going to push your political or religious beliefs on random strangers, you cannot be surprised if some people with different beliefs push back. If you're making a joke that you know could be offensive to some, you can't be upset when those people get offended! Etc. etc., there are infinite examples I could give here.
All of this is within reason, of course. This is the Internet where there are people who are just plain unhinged about all sorts of things. Arguing back to a hot take is one thing; harassing someone over it is another, and is not okay. The severity and impact of the issue also matters; a response that is warranted when someone is deeply and offensively wrong about real-world politics might not be over something like fandom discourse. The point though is that the taking needs to be proportional to whatever you're dishing out. I see so many people on here doing shit like tagging a salty post something like "gonna start a fight" who are then flabbergasted when the fight starts! Like, girl... you knew what you were doing. Why do you think you get to say whatever the fuck you want but nobody else does?
Also, while we're on the topic of "harassment" let's be clear what it is. Harassment online is when someone repeatedly pesters you unprompted, stalks you, refuses to leave you alone, gets other people involved in repeatedly reminding you of their presence (e.g. makes a callout post), might even try to create real-world consequences by doing something like doxxing. It is not "someone said something that wasn't nice once." It is not "someone disagreed with me." It is not even "a back and forth debate" provided you were participating in this back-and-forth (i.e. the person wasn't continuing to berate you after you disengaged). You said something, they disagreed, you responded to their points, they responded to yours and didn't change their mind? Yeah, that's just the breaks sometimes, your arguments aren't always as flawless and instantly persuasive as you think. That's how a debate works. They aren't "harassing" you by refusing to bow down to your infinite wisdom. They're just responding in kind.
If something like the stuff in the last paragraph unnerves you, rattles you, causes you to curl up into a ball of pain.... I mean, I get it, dealing with criticism can be a really hard thing to learn. I still struggle with it even after decades of practice, and I won't pretend I have always been perfect at taking what I dish out, even to this day. But if you want to be able to debate, if you want to write/say things that you know might provoke and offend, it is a skill you have to learn because it is unfair to act like you are the only person who is allowed to speak freely. It is unfair to insist on provoking and disturbing people but then say they are not allowed to express that feeling in response. You need to either grow a thicker skin, or if that is impossible, stop creating situations that require that thick skin. It's impossible to avoid all criticism and pushback, of course, especially online (and trying too hard to do that will be detrimental to your well-being in its own way), but you can reduce a lot of your misery by not actively looking for a fight if you're not actually interested in getting in one.
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alchemisoul · 1 month
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Shit I was on 5 years ago.
#shitholdsup
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myimaginationplain · 2 months
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I fundamentally agree with both of these tweets which is why the asoiaf / got / hotd fandoms are hell for me personally
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sanguith · 1 year
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Clip of some really impressively dynamic dialogue from ep. 5 of Andor. Who wrote this dialogue I need to know cause I gotta send them a love letter and tell them I've watched the scene ten times over now. And the actor for Nemik is doing such an incredible job.
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aquitainequeen · 1 year
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...that being said...
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grendelsmilf · 1 year
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it’s not my favorite show ever or anything, but whenever, on rare occasion, i encounter someone who genuinely, vehemently hates breaking bad (and not just being like “oh it’s not for me” which is fine but like legitimately HATING it) that person always has the most dogshit opinions you’ve ever heard outside of that fact. opinions you didn’t even know god could make. the day i meet someone who i genuinely respect who also thinks breaking bad is a terrible show is the day i reevaluate everything I’ve ever learned about humanity.
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