#gender extremists

[kuebikome]

Trans meds should be released into the Alaskan Wilderness and hunted for sport. Literally the trans gender version of Andrew Tate and pick me girls.

#LIKE there is no place in the expression of a make believe concept for you to become self righteous extremists #you sound like those phrenologists who are like ‘the doctors will know your bone structure when you die’ like using miniscule medical data #like that #LET PEOPLE express their gender however they want it isn’t real #trans med #transmed #trans medicine

[lordadmiralfarsight]

Essentialism, it's bad even if it looks left wing

Essentialism, its a conceptual base for a LOT of shitty things.

Racism is a variety of essentialism, where you are considered confined to the essential qualities or flaws of your "race" (whatever bullshit is put in the word). It creates a veneer of superiority based on skin color/ethnicity/whatever to comfort the adherant's ego, make them more amenable to the professing populist's ambitions and occult one basic reality : people of all color and origins can be wondrous geniuses who bring amazing advancements to humanity or terminally awkward dumbasses (and sometimes both at once).

Classism and casteism is the same, evaluating the social value of someone based on the essential qualities or flaws of their social class or cast. These two rests a lot on tradition and the natural tendency to social endogamy and self-reproduction through education. But in the end, the "superiority" of the higher social strata class or cast is attributed to essential qualities instead of access to better education and learning materials.

But when it comes to sexism, the essentialism seems to, most of the time, be only recognized one way in many keft wing circles, at least on the surface (which is the most visible part). What prompted this? I saw a post on the Barbie movie on this here hellsite that quoted a bunch of tweets. Up to the end, it was fairly feel good, cute, positive. Even if most of the quoted tweets seemed to have missed the commentary on gender relations that is apparently part of the movie.

I will be upfront, I have not seen the movie. Not by ideology, but simply because I do not feel the urge. But from my understanding, the situation of the Kens is ... not ideal. It could be better.

Most of the tweets did not mention that, focusing on the female aspect. And then there was this :

So, over generalisation based on gender elevating one gender as sweet and kind and non-violent, just vibing, while the other is decried as brutish, oppressive and violent. No nuance, just big homogenous blocks. That is incredibly essentialist. That is also a kind of take that feeds Far Right pundits like nobody's business.

Think a bit on the underlying philosophy. What's being said isn't "inequalities are bad and both genders should be equal", it's "the wrong gender is in power and everything would be perfect if gender relations were switched around". That take doesn't have a problem with the system, but with who is in control. When the system is unjust, changing who controls it or benefits from it doesn't make it just.

And just to pre-empt : yes, I'm a man. So what? I am not obligated to suffer for the actions of other dick-owners.

#essentialism #sexism #barbie movie #nuance #gender relations #gender equality #don't over generalise #you won't get good results #it's only good for the extremists #TERF behaviour isn't cool #even when it's not against trans

[anubisgodofchaos]

person: "your 'gender identity' oppresses christians!!!1!"

me: "sir this is a nubis"

#true story #guys my gender is so powerful it oppresses christians #if they knew i was a god what would happen #i love christians but the extremists take it too far

[scrambleseggy]

I kinda regret a few of the analytical gender posts that I’ve made on here not because I don’t still agree with them to some degree or another but because it brought in some of the most stupid anti-feminist bullshit into my eyeballs and like ya’ll…. Just because I’m thinking about societal shit from the perspective of someone now transitioning into someone much more transmasc does not mean I don’t believe the patriarchy exists and is an oppressive force. Hello? Are you there? It’s gender studies 101, they need you and I’m scared for some of the braindead shit I’ve seen on tumblr of all places l m a o

#its less about ‘hate all men’ and more of like please read some goddamn unbiased sources #and no being trans or trans gender studies doesnt refute feminism being essential bc trans women also need to be protected FROM THE SAME #OPPRESSIVE FORCES #its one thing to be some extremist terf who has brainrot #but their are foundational things about feminism than simply regards protecting all forms of oppressed feminity #and that should not be difficult to grasp #being transmasc doesnt mean men are oppressed #youre just talking about transphobia like pls be serious #negative #probably delete later

[aftout]

hey don’t cry. ten billion different alternate timelines within our reach, okay?

#THEY LOOK INSANE I KNOW THAT'S THE POINT #every time I am given an H.G. Wells character I inject them with SOMETHING. idk what it is but it's definitely there. #my fave little skrungle bungle dungle grungle grah. #I love steampunk extremists. shout out to jd steampunk extremists for real!! gotta be one of my favorite genders . #my art #juliette's draft #gothic lit au #the time machine #the time traveller

[tenok]

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#so lgbt extremism kaw us official now (not like anyone expected lawmakers make any sence) #glad to inform you all that my threshold of fucks to give was reached earlier with gender affirming procedures ban #so now I'm calm and a little amused #'this law makes leaders of lgbt organization extremists' which one?? lady gaga?? #*law #*is #oh my god me not misspel things on my phone challenge

[faecaeli]

can not STAND the amount of radfem posts that have show up on my dash "based on my likes" because i've liked posts related to feminism. like what in the world. i should be able to like a quote from bell hooks or a post on reproductive rights and not have this wild and hateful terf shit pop up

#just had a post pop up where the OP was saying drag was similar to blackface #so now i have to deal with my anger about that for the rest of my life #all bc this platforms shit algorithm facilitates extremist thinking and radicalization #as if all women and transfolk arent struggling enough irl huh #fucking all these ppl need to go outside and see whats happening in the world to trans people like........ get off the internet and wake up #how do you look at the trans community and go oh yes! the reason for our oppression! #girl you are looking in completely the wrong direction #you have all the reason to be mad when it comes to the horrible endless misogyny in our world #but how is blaming this very small and widely unaccepted community going to help your cause #its the oldest trick in the fuckin book #u cant scapegoat the minority and make your problems go away #thats just a fast track to violence #like if yall are really interested in feminism why aren't you spending more time looking to men in power #vs people who are already struggling to be themselves in a way that DEFIES the gender norms that you claim to hate and rally against sfm?? #gnc people are not threatening your 'womanhood' u just gotta fucking chill #dont u want to build a future BASED on your sex being of less importance? isn't that the whole damn point? #that our differences are acknowledged and celebrated and accommodated #not used against us #like... c'mon #so full of shit #show me the real feminists on this site who actually care about women and building a better future for everyone #and wanna have real convos rooted in compassion for one another

[shedglitter]

After I thought that Mirror!kara was Linkara's worst villain but realized I needed to make him my big bad narrator in my fanfic because I needed an antagonist Linkara that would also misgender Mark and have beef with the Entity:

#atop the fourth wall #*spongebob both arms extended meme* Mirror!kara's still a good villain with potential! #I just think Mechakara is the best example of extremist villainy and Holokara is the best example of lazy villainy in at4w #so mirrorkara feels like he's less fleshed out than either one of them #(like if holokara had taken just a moment to consider how society works and why authors would write stories with plotholes #and shocking twists that sell but are clearly not driven by passion #he would have just made the US govt implement ubi so creatives got free licenses to do whatever #holokara and linksano are very similar linksano is just smart enough to research and not just go for the obvious solution #i will die on that hill) #point is I have a story where Linkara is narrating and he's encouraging leaving Mark to die so he's a bad guy #and it speaks to my soul to have him misgendering Mark as he's insulting Mark and putting him down #but which Linkara!imposter villain cares enough about Mark to misgender him? #like Mechakara wouldn’t even understand gender identity enough to be an asshole about it imo lol

[wherenightmaresroost]

paradoxical interpretations of my character has to be one of the more unexpected things to come out this year

#sol speaks #i am somehow both too laidback/chill and extremist/passionate #and also both having too high standards for people yet having too much faith in others #the former is bc im not a conservative asshat about sex and gender norms but also very insistent that people should be treated as people #the latter is for expecting people to show basic compassion for others -- its apparently both too much to ask and too naive a view #am i doing the human thing right if im getting these comments

[mihomar]

I've seen people call the idea that gender is a human concept terf rhetoric. Like sorry but animals don't have gender they literally don't care. Saying "gender is an inherent biological thing" just makes you a transmedicalist..... Animals do not care if they have a dick or not. female dogs will literally hump stuff . They don't care

#people will literally become extremists before they accept that gender roles are bs. is it so hard to realise theyre fake and made up

[gynkgobilobo]

Can we talk about how in today's social climate being gnc is absolute torture

#being the physical proof of no such thing as gender is a traumatic experience tbh #two extremist camps that want to sell you the idea that your personality and style don't 'match' your body and that you should 'change' #you know which people are which. and you know how they view you. like an anomaly. even though logically you never were and will never be #i hate it. #this is a vent post btw

[vexingwoman]

when trans rights activists straight up admit that sex based rights, gay rights, and the prioritization of women’s safety poses a threat to their movement. speaks for itself honestly. unsurprisingly:

-nowhere does the author provide proof of the so-called hate campaigns against trans youth. 

-nowhere does the author elaborate on how making online spaces to discuss our perspective = dangerous or extremist. 

-nowhere does the author provide even an iota of proof that the trans activist who was doxxed, was doxxed by radical feminists. (reminds me of that incident where a woman was attacked by a MAN who thought she was trans, and trans activists somehow found a way to blame radical feminists.)  

-nowhere does the author actually critique (or demonstrate that she even understands) the radical feminist stance on gender ideology. her only argument is to repeat the TWAW mantra, as though repeating it enough times will make it true.

#radical feminism #terfsafe #terfblr #misogny #gender critical #radblr #radical feminist safe #sexism #trans logic

[grison-in-space]

I am not particularly interested in a “redemption” narrative for incels. That is a question for those individuals to ponder. We do not implore the victims of other forms of terrorism to absolve and educate their tormentors. Nor do we require that other extremists be acknowledged as some kind of wounded, misunderstood victims. It is ironic that so much pressure is brought to bear on women to allow for the humanity and individuality of fallible men when it is precisely this courtesy that incels unfailingly refuse to pay to women.

But I am interested in the men in between. The boys who fall through the cracks. The “good” men who feel scared. The ones who went looking for help, because they felt frightened or sad or lonely, and haven’t been able to disentangle themselves. The ones who just haven’t heard about any of this yet. The ones who look the other way on the bus. Because we can’t change anything without those men. So how do we reach them?

Laura Bates, Men Who Hate Women (2020).

Importantly, she's just spent a lot of time talking about men-led feminist groups that do good work, both in terms of reducing domestic violence and other "traditional" feminist concerns and in terms of providing other narratives, support structures, and information about things that men, like all people, care about: how to keep yourself safe physically and emotionally; how to cope with feeling frightened or uncertain; how to communicate with other people in a world that feels zero sum and frightening.

It's a good, thoughtful discussion of what it means to respond to radicalization in an effective way: you reduce the pain points that funnel people towards radicalized groups, you provide them with positive things to do to help themselves, and you provide empathy to anyone who is willing to provide empathy back to you. But you don't immolate yourself on the altar of healing people who already hate you: you focus on the ones who are easy to help first, the ones who need only a little help, and then you expand.

It's a heavy book, but well worth reading—and not only if you're interested in online misogyny and radicalization. I would recommend the book to anyone with an interest in gender, building a better world, deradicalization, and effectively handling terrorism.

#laura bates #Men who hate women

[ankewehner]

I've seen some really scary anti-trans/anti-queer propaganda, so, facts:

Regarding gender and sexual orientation, the side wanting to indoctrinate children with their ideology is the one going "if you have a penis, you are a man, if you have a vagina, you're a woman, end of", or "gender doesn't exist, only sex matters". (I'm reading "ideology" with negative connotations of being narrow-minded and ignoring evidence, not in the wider sense of a system of ideas, the way "gender ideology" is used by the "queers are evil" faction.)

The side that acts like nazis is not the one wanting actual information to be spread, and accepting people who are different from the "norm". It's the side that wants to suppress scientific findings and any other information that contradicts their doctrine, paints their opposition as evil, and calls for their death.

I'm probably preaching to the choir here, but fuck it, I need to say it somewhere.

#queer #queermisia #transmisia #genital mention #gender essentialism #fuck this crop of extremists