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another-goblin · 21 days

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2.1 Spoilers

I have two versions of how Aventurine and Ratio planned that "betrayal." As always, I might be missing something, so please feel free to comment.

1. They planned everything, including the "betrayal", beforehand. They probably didn't expect Sunday to mess with Aventurine's head, though. And Ratio was so convincing that Aventurine, in his confused state of mind, started to doubt whether or not the betrayal was actually real. Ratio anticipated it, so he had that note prepared.

2. The second version: I don't think it's the intended interpretation, but it's much more interesting in my opinion. They didn't expect Aventurine's stuff to get confiscated. He managed to crush his stone and hide it among the common gems before that. But from now on, they weren't able to discuss their plans openly because their every word was being monitored. They were able to devise that entire "betrayal" thing with just hints and implicit understanding.

It's something akin to a conspiracy theory on my side. But I think it's fun to try and reinterpret all their dialogs with that idea in mind. Them trying to secretly communicate their new plans and, at the same time, reassure each other of their mutual trust. While portraying the picture of a disfunctioning crubmling team.

From their scene in 2.0, it's "We still trust each other, right? Do you have a plan? no? I know how crucially important these stones are for you, so I'll go and try to do something" on Ratio's side.

And in 2.1, his joke about "Maybe I do intend to betray you, haha," meaning "I will "betray" you, be prepared," and later "I'm still a manager of this mission," meaning "I know what I'm doing, we are still a team, I'm on your side, carry on."

(I don't remember their dialogs that well, though. I don't have time to rewatch the whole mission to listen to their dialogs again. Is there an option to just read dialogs later, like in Genshin?)

It feels like Ratio took the lead as always, while Aventurine was running around planning his own demise. And it shows Ratio's respect for Aventurine's intelligence. "I trust you are smart enough to understand what I mean without me explaining it explicitly."

But imagine what was going on in poor Aven's boiling brain. "Everything went wrong *panic mode* Ratio is trying to tell me something. I think we have a new plan. Or is he just manipulating me? Are we still together on one side? Or is it just my wishful thinking?"

3. Not the third version, I'm just curious what their overall plan was.

Topaz and Jade said something like "The stones are in place, so let's begin." So it feels like Aven's task from IPC was to just deliver the stones to Penacony (and maybe gather some intel).

So him crushing and later retrieving his stone, and all that happened next was his personal affair. Why would Ratio help him with that?

He probably recognized that spiraling into the depths of despair and self-destruction and going through this dark cathartic experience was the only way for Aven to (hopefully) appear on the other side, a happier and freer man.

Also, I've got the idea that crushing his stone is irreversible. You can't glue it back together. I think Topaz or Jade said in the end something like "We can't detect the aventurine stone anymore, you know what it means" (what exactly does it mean though? that he's dead? Is he free from IPC now?)

#honkai star rail #my stuff #dr ratio #aventurine #hsr spoilers #hsr 2.1 spoilers #hsr 2.1

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th4tsj4zzy · 12 days

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hoo boy im boutta get controversial

only 50 notes in and im starting to post stuff abt hsr controversy >:) this’ll be about the sparkle/ratio being racist controversy for the first + second part of hsr’s trailblaze mission for penacony

TW: slavery, slurs, racism, “death” (suicide..? 2.1 hsr quest makes this make sense) spoilers for penacony’s 2.1 quest below the cut

ofc, when sparkle was degrading aventurine for being sigonian, i reacted how a lot of people did and was like “cheese and rice, thats kinda racist dude, wtf-“ i was pretty worried bc hoyo’s had a history with not handling racism in plotlines well (see: eremite world quest in genshin) but i wanted to stay optimistic bc theres a different team working on hsr and maybe theyll be better at handling racism in plot. but honestly? after playing the second part of the penacony quest, i really think that they handled the entire thing pretty well.

probably 50% of penacony’s 2.1 quest was aventurine’s backstory, how being enslaved affected him, his family, and the culture of the avgins/sigonians (specifically the latter). his “all or nothing” nature clearly reflects the fact he’s used to betting everything (despite being paranoid about it since he quite literally lost everything before being taken in by the [pretty] ipc [woman, jade]) bc it makes him seem confident and gives him an image of carelessness, benefiting him in the long run of scheming. the only reason im able to draw this many conclusions about him is because of the amount of character development they give him in the quest.

ofc, im not trying to say that sparkle’s (and “ratio’s”) racist remarks were justified; to put it lightly, they’re leaning into a darker shade of morally grey, even without knowing their purposes for saying such stuff. however, i do think that them being racist to aventurine is a major part of the world building for HSR. him being on the receiving end of their criticism makes us suspicious of everyone else, but also makes us root for him a bit, which helps balance out the scales of distrust and/or dislike the viewer should have of all of the characters. in the beginning of the quest, aventurine’s probably receiving a lot more of the dislike/distrust than the other characters, so we need to at least find a reason to root for him if the writers want us to understand his schemes.

also, sparkle being racist to aventurine for being sigonian and him persisting through all of the hardships his plans and his past bring (despite 85% of it being for the ipc and the other 15% for the mere chance to see his family and find the truth, the latter mattering more than the former) is a narrative that brings tears to my eyes. it resonates with me as a minority race, and im sure many others can understand why.

sure, sparkle used a slur for the real life alternative for sigonia and ratio brings up his past as a slave. we all recognize its not right for her to do that and that the writers are pretty harsh for writing the slur in, but its just the same way in the real world. the writers are just showing us reality in a video game. death and murder and enslavement is really harsh that also reflect the real world, yet they also include it. are we really gonna act like saying a slur is above killing people?

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mxdarling · 20 days

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kinda realizing the type of men i like in hsr and genshin; SPOILERS TO ANYONE WHO HASN'T PLAYED/SEEN HSR TRAILBLAZE MISSIONS OR GENSHIN STORY QUESTS BEFORE!!! ALSO SPOILERS FOR HSR 2.1 AND HSR LEAKS!!!

BLADE can't die because he is immortal duh

DAN HENG IL got reincarnated against his own will so i guess that counts as a death?? plus blade threw a sword at him so-

JING YUAN has a longer lifespan then normal people thus will succumb to the mara struck one day

ARGENTI was willing to a plan that could have killed him just so the astral express could get out of the swarm's stomach

AVENTURINE wanted to die but choose to live and has stated to have tried dying in the dreamscape multiple times already

BOOTHILL got made into a cyborg so he can't die anymore

SUNDAY fucking dies by confronting death / someone closely related to death

GALLAGHER is literally death himself / is closely related to death

KAVEH had his father died which fucked him up

LYNEY had his parental father figure die due to a mishap in on of his magic tricks

BAIZHU has a shorter lifespan than normal people and is probably about to die

VENTI took the form of his dead friend who led the rebellion of old mondstadt

somehow in some way all of them are related to death, have experienced death, or desired to die. what the fuck.

#noah talks (❁´◡`❁)#genshin #hsr #genshin impact #honkai star rail

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nekoprankster218 · 22 days

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ngl this 2.1 boss has killed all the goodwill HSR has built up for me

it’s not just that this is the worst designed boss I’ve ever encountered

it’s that this has really opened my eyes to a fatal flaw in HSR that may flip people’s perspective on it. it feels like I’m punished for not building *every* character, for not going through the grind for every character in the archive. my best teams that carried me throughout all of penacony are struggling against this one boss and all the characters I’ve seen recommended to fix this are all underlevel and half-built, and I’m broke when it comes to Trailblaze power because of all the previous building I’ve done for the previous teams, plus for *starting* the building on the Acheron, Gallagher, and Gepard I just got, and now I have to do *more* building for *more* teams.

at least with Genshin I can build like two teams max and be comfortable for the rest of the game. I am stuck. on a *story boss*. because I have a bunch of built teams that get TPK at the new mechanics and a bunch of teams with the potential to pass the mechanics that are all still underlevel. and there’s no downgrading the EQ level to make the boss a bit squishier or a Quick Start option so I can at least still take part in the upcoming event while I wait on building.

past story bosses also had this issue, but back then things were still so new that it just felt like I needed to build, needed more time to rank up, and then the future would be less challenging. now I’m starting to get this feeling that is gonna be a chronic problem for the rest of the game and idk if I can keep doing this grind song and dance every time a new boss demands a new team I had no idea I needed to prioritize while also needing to spend days and weeks building that new team because of this goddamn stamina system, all while watching event timers tick down and dodging YouTube thumbnail spoilers.

#vent #vent post #honkai star rail 2.1 #hsr 2.1 #my post #my posts #gonna tag this light just to keep the main tags free of my exhausted venting #my survey is gonna be strongly worded when that time rolls around #might put ‘nerf aventurine’ or full on ‘nerf story bosses’ on every survey from now on #this post is like the opposite of my passionate tirad against Genshin’s Anti-Raiden Shogun training #i’m too tired to do capitalization and proper sentences; i’ve been broken

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la-casa-de-xio · 1 month

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Looking forward to the Penacony story continuing, so far I've been dodging spoilers and leaks like a pro. Although I wonder when the Trailblazer will pickup their new path? I thought it'd happen in 2.0 like it would in Genshin, but I guess it makes more sense for it to be in 2.1/2.2 because we gain a new path during a boss fight.

#xio plays honkai star rail

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rev-feaw · 11 months

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The “Bittersweet” Betrayal of Genshin Impact’s Inazuma Arc (a Personal Reflection)

Inazuma arc, how it could have been my favorite arc...

Inazuma New Year 2022 from Genshin Impact Japan Twitter (by Pako)

This was a rather subjective and over exaggerated view of Inazuma arc, affected by so many personal experiences at that moment. I’ll do the more objective one later, that looking more from the game itself and less from myself.

WARNING! CONTAIN HEAVY SPOILERS OF INAZUMA AND SUMERU ARCHON QUESTS

Overview

Inazuma was one of the most anticipated update in Genshin Impact. It was the first major update after the game’s release in late 2020. The content drought was real as we approached the 2.0 update, and so many people saved up for Ayaka. You know how thirsty people for new content, new characters, new mechanics and new lore... of course, including myself.

In my personal rating that time, Genshin Impact was winning in so many aspects. I liked the combat, setting, exploration, story, even the gacha was forgiven! (What do you expect from a stockholm-syndrome FGO player), I only disliked the constant artifacts grinding. But Inazuma arc changed everything and destroyed my mighty view of Genshin entirely. This is just my love-hate letter about how this arc has everything that I could’ve loved, but I “hated” it. It’s a confusing feeling, the feeling of betrayal by something you love.

The Inazuma Build-up

To this day, I believe Inazuma still has the best build-up ever made in Genshin. At this point I’ve finished Sumeru archon quest and its interlude. I don’t feel like there’s anything exciting about Fontaine, meanwhile the Inazuma lockdown was already hinted since... THE RELEASE!

Some hints about Inazuma that’s already in the game long before 2.0:

The Inazuma girl in Liyue (Atsuko)

A letter in a bottle from Inazuma that landed in Dragonspine

Hints dropped by Zhongli by the end of Liyue Archon Quest

No new electro character until 2.1

Outside the game, Inazuma was hinted several times in the livestream, along with the islands’ concept art and Ayaka.

Some clearer hints later dropped in 1.6, a patch before Inazuma which was, one of my favorite patch ever. So many hints around the islands, the Maguu Kenki, and then the prologue ft. Kazuha in the second half of the patch!

Kaedehara Kazuha, the Inazuma Arc’s Beacon of Light and the Last Hope of Humanity

How Inazuma arc could’ve been my favorite...

Genshin Impact official artwork. I love you Kazuha

Yes, thanks to Kazuha. He’s the beginning and ending of Inazuma arc. You expect Ayaka as the MVP? No! It was all Kazuha!

I was so excited when I learned that there will be the first Inazuma character: Kaedehara Kazuha. To this day he’s still my favorite character so this is definitely heavily biased. This part will explain his influence as our first real introduction to Inazuma, but I’ll write more about his major impact to Inazuma arc later.

I think the way Mihoyo introduced Inazuma along with the release of new temporary region (Golden Apple Archipelago) and a new character is genius. Genshin Impact is a gacha game, meaning it’s very reliant to character collecting. And with the addition of Kazuha as our first “guide” to Inazuma let all players, not only the lore-aware ones, but even META/gameplay enthusiasts to notice how impactful is Inazuma! He also came along with EM reaction buff, granted turned him into the most broken character at that moment (and tbh even now lol).

As the players were trying to get better to know Kazuha in many aspects, let it be personality, gameplay, or his story, they would also learn more about Inazuma. His entire character is tied strongly to the main focus of Inazuma Archon Quest, he’s like the personification of Inazuma AQ itself. It can be seen from his character teaser and Inazuma AQ prologue. Not to mention he appeared with a character that already familiar to the players: Beidou. We’ll talk more about Kazuha later ;)

The 2.0 Version Livestream

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This is one of build-up for Inazuma, other than the ones I stated before, but not in-game. I absolutely loved this livestream! Even now, after all the “betrayals”.

For the first time, Mihoyo introduced this “developer talks” format for a livestream. It gave us the sense of importance for the next patch, and personally I really love the content. They gave us short but insightful behind-the-scenes, from many aspects like the landscape designs (they explicitly said was inspired by Studio Ghibli) and the raw notes of Inazuma’s score medley played by the godly Yu-Peng Chen himself.

Personally to this day, this livestream is still the best and very dear to me.

2.0 is Another Build-up!

2.0 is still Inazuma build-up. It’s stopped right before the climax. I like 2.0′s story, and I think it’s still successfully held the might of Genshin in my eyes. There are some flaws in this patch--which aged terribly later on, but I’ll talk about it later.

I like the other aspects, such as explorations and new mechanics, pulled Ayaka first day and had a great time trying to ice bridge between the isles. Inazuma is so pretty! The OSTs are so enchanting! The world quests are awesome! Overall I love this update. It has strong feeling of we being a vigilant, and how people were locked out from other nation. It was living up the hype from release.

2.1 Version Trailer is Still the Best

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Truly the peak of version trailer

The end of 2.0, and the 2.1 livestream is where all things started went downhill, but not with the version trailer. Just like Kazuha and 2.0 livestream, I still absolutely love 2.1 version trailer, even today. I think it’s still the best in every aspect, yes even as I wrote this, right after 3.7 dropped! Especially the OST. THE OST, MAN!! Also, there’s Scaramouche, the long awaited character since 1.1 appeared in the end of trailer!

The Birth of Disaster

2.1 livestream was a cancer. At least, the EN/global side is. I don’t want to go for details, you can see it yourself @ youtube. The newest 2.0 characters, Sayu and Yoimiya got many criticism, especially Yoimiya, after how recent *5 were bonkers and suddenly, there’s her. I never had any faith about character power balancing in any gacha game, so it didn’t affect me. Other thing is, Genshin 1st anniversary was in 2.1 as well, and they didn’t seem very rewarding for the players as seen in the livestream, but we’ll talk about it later.

The most bugging thing about 2.0 was Ayaka’s story quest for me. They seemed butcher her character very much to the point she’s just a “waifu longing for attention”. But the players also seemed enjoying her story as I read many comments and polls in Youtube so I thought Mihoyo did the right move. HOWEVER, apparently... this is cancerous, this is spreading to other aspects not only story quests. This is what ruined the Inazuma arc.

In the other hand, exploration-wise, their new Watatsumi and Seirai island were great, although not as exciting as the previously introduced Inazuma in 2.0

The Land of Waifus

“They said Honkai story was good!” My friend seemed so... pissed by the end of archon quest. Well actually, we all. “What is this?! Why all the women just there as waifu? Where’s the characterization?! Isn’t Honkai also all girls and they said the story is good?!”

I was pissed as well. I pulled Raiden on the first day, right after work and eager to finish Inazuma AQ with my brand-new all archon + traveler team (I already have Venti and Zhongli). I finished it with full concentration and dedication, and I was pissed.

It was so hollow.

I played the Raiden story quest, and I got EVEN MORE PISSED!! Like the hell, this waifu just ruined a nation and you, traveler, succeeded on making her out of her hikikomori era, but nOW YOU HAVE A DATE WITH HER?! And worst thing is, people “only” remember her boobas. She’s a very popular character despite her horrible characterization... because of boobas and big pewpew damage.

I still cannot forgive this part. To this day. The end of Inazuma AQ and Raiden story quest is the menace for my being. I hate it, and not as simply hate, but I felt so betrayed. My expectation about story in Genshin was ruined in shreds. There’s no climax. There’s no conclusion. There’s no redemption. It’s all end. The Inazuma finale was just Kaedehara Kazuha blocked Musou no Hitotachi.

The Kokomi and Anniversary Catastrophe

I don’t like Kokomi’s kit. I admit that. At least until dendro + Nilou introduced.

People also didn’t like her kit, but some people were just ahole who likes to ditch any character. Her release sparked many controversies, and the anniversary wasn’t helping either... it just fueling the fire!

I played Kokomi’s story quest for the sake of “seeking redemption for that disastrous AQ ending” and tbh, I liked her story better than Raiden’s. It’s less dating sim, but still has strong dating sim. People finally realized that this dating sim trope started by Ayaka was getting out of hand, and all of those aspects merged into one, big, anger of the players from every server and they finally let it all out in the anniversary... remember the google classroom hate rate?

There’s this Moonchase event actually in that patch, and honestly, this story about a glutinous panda was 1000x better than a god waifu’s.

There are SO MANY more issues with this particular topic (2.1 story & anniversary disaster), but lots of people already discussed it (many in Youtube) so I don’t think I need to write further. One funny thing is the players’ wrath successfully made Mihoyo gave us all more free 10 rolls + an exclusive glider. So lame.

We Left Genshin Impact

The cherry on top of those disaster was none other than...

A freaking Childe rerun.

The least character anyone wanted to rerun.

The 2.2 was the most “boring” and barren patch for most players. However not me. I like Childe, I was actually happy with the event LOL.

Obligatory Childe’s Rizz moment

Many players left the game or community after all 2.1 disaster (not to mention all the new *4 are pretty meh). It’s like cultural reset which is funny on their own. They actually have a new area (Tsurumi Island) this patch along with some banger world quests, but the island itself is so sorrowful and scary that can be easily forgotten... sadge.

Back to Mondstadt and Liyue, the Reflection Arc

The 2.3 patch was a geo patch with an intriguing Albedo event. 2.4 was the grand Lantern Rite™. The two patches were quite a reflection for the past 3 Inazuma patches, and to me as a player. I played the events, I played Itto’s story quest. They were good, in the initial Genshin Impact standard. So why the Inazuma AQ was so disastrous? Was it just a fever dream?

In 2.4 an Inazuma area, Enkanomiya was released. I like this area, despite haven’t been there in like 3 months lol. Imo this place is the prettiest “man-built” area in Genshin.

This is How Inazuma Archon Quest Should Have Been

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The 2.5 and 2.6 were heavy Inazuma patches. And strangely, I actually enjoyed them a lot better than the AQ. 2.5 focused a lot to Raiden, with some Yae Miko. Yae’s kit, once again sparked controversies, but not causing uproar like Kokomi’s although funnily enough, I think Kokomi’s kit is a lot better than hers.

Raiden 2nd story was very good. It’s SO GOOD that the AQ and her 1st story quest was probably just a surreal projection. Yae’s was good, standard in Genshin lah.

2.6 was actually my favorite Inazuma patch. It’s like the real conclusion of the story of Inazuma, and how they managed to do it within a temporary event, with characters from diverse nations! This is the patch that redeemed Inazuma for me, simply remove the “hatred” from 2.1. Although my chest still ache when I remember it, but I forgave it now, thank you Ayato, Kazuha, and... Scaramouche LOLL. It’s the Irodori Festival. I love the story very much and I think the lore here should’ve stated in a permanent story quest, alas.

In 2.7 they started to hint Sumeru via the Chasm. This was a Liyue patch, but done in similar way of 2.6. It’s like they prepared for the ending of Inazuma Arc.

Irodori Festival, the true conclusion of Inazuma Archon Quest (pict from 2.1 mil followers celebration of Genshin Impact Japan Twitter)

Kaedehara Kazuha, the Beginning and Ending of Inazuma Arc

We finally reached this part. Why I was so attached to Kazuha, and why Inazuma arc should have done better. 2.8 patch was actually a summer event, but it’s like an epilogue for Inazuma for me, especially how once again, they use Kazuha’s life story here. And this is why he matters so much.

Kazuha was the one who introduced traveler to Inazuma (told in 1.6)

He has strong ties to a direct “victim” of Sakoku Decree (1.6)

In the prologue (1.6) it was stated that he wanted to make his late friend’s vision’s glow. In the finale he himself made it glow by blocking Musou no Hitotachi (2.1), he answered the question given in the very beginning.

Has long history in Inazuman swordsmaking, since he’s from samurai family just like Ayaka and Ayato (told in 2.6 event)

Descendant of someone close to the puppet of Electro Archon herself: Kabukimono (Scaramouche), who’s very plot relevant later (2.6 event & Sumeru AQ interlude)

His family decline was directly tied to Inazuma’s history, that was told in the last event of 2.x (2.8). Kazuha himself decided to keep moving on instead going back to his homeland, it’s like Mihoyo told us to say goodbye to Inazuma.

Considering his “accidental” involvement to people responsible to either Sakoku Decree & Vision Hunt Decree, Inazuma commissions, Fatui, etc that basically the plot driver of Inazuma AQ, it’s safe to say that he’s the major backbone. Without Kazuha, the Inazuma arc’s story would stray even more random. He connected all of it, the lore stated in either AQ or event stories. His first banner was in the last patch of 1.x, and his first rerun was in the last patch of 2.x, the beginning and ending of Inazuma.

This is why I love his promo MV very much. It really shows us a “journey”, a sweet ending for Inazuma. I may will never forget the disaster, but Kazuha ended it with a smile, so... it’s a bittersweet feeling.

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So long, Inazuma.

End of Sumeru Arc and the New Beginning of Wanderer

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I wish I could move on from Inazuma AQ’s disastrous writing, but sadly I can’t, because... it tied strongly with Sumeru’s story, and the rest of Teyvat journey.

Scaramouche, or later known as Wanderer (this is actually Kazuha’s name smh), has an integral involvement in Inazuma lore/history just like Kazuha, but in different side of coin (imo). He was there, always there in every major circumstances that happened in Inazuma after he was born. But he was the villain when Kazuha was the “victim” or “hero”. It’s like Kazuha’s story was under the light, when Scara’s under the shadow.

All of it were just slowly revealed through Sumeru AQ story. Sumeru AQ was good. 1000x better than previous AQs. Especially the interlude, it made many of Inazuman events sensible, and I’m glad of it. Like we finally able to attach the light and the shadows altogether. Funnily enough all of it happened after Sumeru arc ended.

Wanderer is like the personification of “Inazuma arc reset”. I still “hate” how 2.1 happened and ended, but as his “redemption” goes on (especially by Nahida), I think it’s time to move on and don’t mourn so much to the “betrayal”. Genshin is no longer that mighty in my eye and the anticlimatic Inazuma AQ will always haunt my Teyvat journey, but I’m still here, at least until Sheznaya.

Tl;dr, I really like all about Inazuma, except the AQ finale which is like, if you’re on a test, it’s a segment with 60% of overall value and the rest are just 40%. Wasted opportunity. Anticlimatic occurrences are always the worst.

How Inazuma arc could have been my favorite... if only 2.1 was done better

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