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jayjamjary · 17 days
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You know, I've never thought about it before but it was very sweet of Erina to name her and Jonathan's son George Joestar II.
Like Johnathan was dead at that point and they didn't know Erina was pregnant. They were newly weds. Johnathan probably never had time to suggest that for the baby's name.
That means that Erina took into consideration how much she knew Johnathan loved his father and decided to honor that. My favorite straight people of all time.
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katchcern · 5 months
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mazanarry · 16 days
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It would be funny to see that Mr. and Mrs. Kujo are optimistic people I would imagine.
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I feel that Pol and sher would only have one mother and one absent father.
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The Kakyion family would be like Asian ponies.
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Avdol is half zebra and half Bharat pony.
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I feel that George is just like his father jhonathan and joseph well he is a mix of the two colors of lisa and george.
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aforgotto · 2 months
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George Joestar II tries to be supportive of his strange little half brothers
+ tupperbox shenanigans under the cut (f slur cw)
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Versace can reclaim it
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bingosomen · 5 months
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nyyooom.
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silver-focus-lining · 2 months
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Since my last artwork of Lisa Lisa on the cover of Jorge Joestar, @dailygeorgejoestarii motivated me to draw George Joestar himself. Here’s the amazing forgotten Joestar!
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dailygeorgejoestarii · 2 months
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k1ranishf4 · 10 months
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Okay so one thing that bothers me is all those comments with “you mean Jonathan’s son” or “nah Giorno’s more Jonathan’s son” on Mudad content.
Like WE GET IT!!
ALL OF THEM ARE BIOLOGICALLY JONATHAN’S
But was Jonathan the one to actually conceive them? No. It was Dio.
Look, I’m all for Jonadad but we as a fandom should focus on Jonadad content with George II. That’s something I really want to see but no one ever thinks about George II, probably because he didn’t get his own part like Holly.
People always forget about him or when it’s Mudad, it’s either Dio hanging out with only Giorno or only Donatello, Rikiel and Ungalo. There’s literally no in between.
I’m a Mudad truther, I know that Jonathan’s biologically the four dudes’ father but I ignore it because I want to acknowledge Dio as their biological father, since he was literally the one to conceive them.
I don’t know about y’all but in my opinion, Jonathan should spend time with his son George II and Dio should spend time with his sons Giorno, Donatello, Rikiel and Ungalo.
I want Jonathan and Dio to be uncles okay? Jonathan being excited to see his nephews and happy for his brother and Dio acting like he doesn’t care but he’s actually spoiling George II as much as he spoils his own sons.
Give me happy content with them.
The five cousins causing trouble together, Dio getting affection from his brother and sister-in-law even though he doesn’t want it and George I being a happy grandfather who’s also proud of his sons (although one of them has children without ever being married).
The same thing happens with Holly and Joseph too!!
Yes, Josuke is Joseph’s son and I love content with them.
But give me Holly being a daddy’s girl, Holly always choosing her father over her mother whenever someone asks the “who do you love the most” question, Holly and Suzie talking shit about Joseph in Italian behind his back, Holly giving Joseph a heart attack when she announces that Sadao proposed to her, Holly Joseph and Suzie crying their eyes out when she announces her pregnancy. Just. Them.
There’s so much we can explore with this huge ass family (and overall every character and other families like the Kawajiris or Diavolo | Doppio and Trish) but all that people focus on are the main JoJos (and the main villains).
One day, I will write this. Once I get the full plot and outline ideas. But I’m already planning it!
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starry-blue-echoes · 7 months
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Thoughts on Jonathan and George's relationship:
Honestly, George always meant the best for Jonathan. Even when he was harsh he was trying to push Jonathan to be better as best he could, and he took a knife for Jonathan in the end- but still, it wasn't great for Jonathan.
But on the other hand, the dude was not equipped to handle this alone I think. With Mary's sudden and unexpected death, especially with my headcannon that the Joestar Family Neurodivergence came from her side, with the total lack of knowledge on that kind of thing in that era, he would have been hard-pressed to do better.
Then add in Dio, and hoo boy. He's not equipped to handle being a good parent with regards to Dio's trauma either, especially when he doesn't even know it exists, but he can't not take in Dio either, given the alternatives are Not Great and his own kind heart.
And Jonathan's feelings are... complicated. There's frustration at never quite seeming good enough, at the favoritism towards Dio, but also, he still loves George, still misses him after he dies. And for a long time, he probably internalizes a lot of it, thinking it was somehow him and not George.
It takes a long time for him to come to terms with the fact that even if George couldn't really have done much better, that doesn't affect the fact that Jonathan still deserved better. And I don't think he really internalizes that until he's raising George II and thinks about what George did with him from that perspective. (Though at the same time, he can see how, if he didn't have the knowledge he does about how his brain works differently from lived experience... he can see why George did what he did, even if it was dead wrong.)
Honestly I think the whole Jonaeriwagon trio might end up sort of reparenting themselves as they raise kids together- Jonathan realizing that he deserved better than what George did, even if George was doing as best he knew how, now Jonathan knows better, and can treat both his kid and his own inner child with that new knowledge and kindness. Speedwagon makes sure the kids have everything they want or need, spoiling them with gifts and love while also confronting how the scarcity he grew up under affected him, and starting to learn to treat himself now that he has the resources. And Erina, more headcannony, but empowering the kids to have more control and agency over their lives than she had, being dragged around continents with her dad, and that inner core of steel starting to become something she's more comfortable showing and working with as she teaches the kids to do the same.
I couldn't have worded it better myself and also I'm losing my mind (/pos) over these beautiful Jonaeriwagon headcanons because Y E S
the way I've always been thinking of George is sort of a "You Tried Your Best But It Was What You Thought Was Best." I don't doubt he loved Jonathan and Dio, but what he saw as helping them ultimately did cause a lot of harm
but also now I'm rotating so many soft things as they raise George II together-
Jonathan indulging George's interests, reading up on them so they have things to talk about, listening to him as much as he can to his son never feels unheard or shoved to the sidelines or like nobody believes him
Speedwagon always making sure George has what he needs but also teaching him how to value and safe guard what he has, giving him tips on the ins and outs of the seedier parts of the world in case he ever gets in a rough spot so he won't be caught off guard
Erina making sure it's absolutely clear that no matter what happens, no matter what embarassing or terrifying thing could be done to him, they will always love and respect him and that he could come to them for help, how he always can say no and fight back if he feels it's approprate
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jjba-smash-or-pass · 28 days
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cornerofhell · 2 months
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which JoJo is your favorite?
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JONATHAN JOESTAR!!!
I know he was the "starter type/testing the waters" but this man was so good, and so awesome, and kind, and didn't deserve anything that happened to him.
I 100% believe that he would have been an amazing father to George ii, an amazing father in law to Elizabeth/Lisa Lisa and taken Giorno in as his son and given him the love he deserved.
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George Jostar from Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure
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connor-dioda · 7 months
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Jo-Alpha, the former Autobot Air Commander before Jo-Magnus.
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earthbovndmisfit · 1 year
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It took a while, but it’s finally here! An extensive timeline of the events in and about Phantom Blood for further reference on this part.
This covers the events on both anime and manga as well additional info from the artbooks and stuff that was implied/inferred or that can be deduced going by all the info available in the story and, occasionally (namely, some of the info around Jack The Ripper), from real life events too.
(full timeline under the cut for length reasons)
16th century (no dates given, but it can be speculated was somewhere in the late 1530s-early 1540s), the Dark Knights: Tarkus and Bruford are born.
Windknight's Lot is an active training ground/site for knights in this period. This is where Tarkus and Bruford do his entire training.
1563, Tarkus and Bruford become two of the only five men in history who have defeated the "77 Rings" training method.
At some point in this period, both become Queen Mary Stuart's faithful retainers.
1565. Queen Elizabeth and Mary Stuart fight for the throne.
Also in 1565, Queen Mary Stuart's husband, Darnley dies. Queen Elizabeth the 1st takes advantage of that and charges Mary Stuart with having killed him.
It's inferred that, still over the course of that year, Mary Stuart's armies (one of them being led by Tarkus and Bruford) were under attack as the nobles of the land revolted against Mary Stuart. Mary Stuart's side was defeated, resulting in her imprisonment, however, the army led by Tarkus and Bruford was still undefeated. Ultimately, they got tricked by Queen Elizabeth and were executed shortly after Mary Stuart had suffered the same fate.
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1827, Dario Brando was born.
1838, January 19th, Will Zeppeli was born.
1858, the “first” incident with the Stone Mask takes place. Will’s father becomes a vampire and kills his entire crew and, almost, his son as well.
There is no info on the matter but it could be inferred that Mario Zeppeli was born around this period of time --somewhere in the mid-to-late 1850s and the early 1860s, or up to the 1870s at most-- as Will Zeppeli mentions he’s a married man and that he has a son back in Italy (assuming Will started his family before he went to Tibet). It’s also very likely that Will visited his family a few times throughout the years as Mario not only got to know about Will’s eventual fate and about the Stone Mask, but he also learned about Hamon and some of those techniques (which were only known in Tibet, so the easiest way he could have learned about them was from Will himself).
1860. Zeppeli goes to Tibet and starts training with Master Tonpetty and becomes very close friends with Dire since, forming a friendship that would last for nearly three decades.
1863. Zeppeli finishes his training and starts his one-man search for the Stone Mask around the world.
Also in 1863, (no month/day specified), Straizo was born.
Still in 1863, October 16th, Robert E. O. Speedwagon was born.
No specific date is given,although it’s often speculated it was in December of either 1867 or 1868, Dio Brando was born.
1868, April 4th, Jonathan Joestar was born.
Also in 1868. The carriage accident in which Mary Joestar dies takes place as the Joestars were making their way back to Liverpool. Jonathan is only weeks/months old around this time, meaning that the accident took place somewhere after April 4th of that year.
It’s not entirely clear, but it’s possible that it is around this same year (1869 at most) that Dario gets caught trying to sell the wedding ring he stole from the Joestars.
1869 (no month/day specified), Erina Pendleton was born.
It’s also not specified when, but it’s possible that Dio’s mother died around these years (1868-69, and before 1880).
1873. George gets Jonathan a pet that would soon become Jonathan's only friend growing up: Danny.
1880. Dario Brando dies at some point in this year.
1881, Dio Brando is legally/officially adopted by the Joestars and starts living with them. Jojo’s happy (and a bit spoiled, too) life begins to crumble.
Also in 1881, Jonathan and Erina meet.
Still in 1881, Dio kills Danny.
1881 still, Dio assaults Erina.
It’s in this same year (1881) that Jojo starts showing interest for the first time in the stone mask after finding out it reacts to blood touching its surface.
Still in 1881, the Pendletons move to India due to Mister Pendleton’s job.
We are told that Jonathan spent the next 7 years in almost absolute solitude as a result of Dio basically isolating him in his attempt to destroy Jona and become the sole heir of the Joestar fortune. It is also through these seven years that we can see George and Dio often bonding as father and son.
It’s also at some point during these 7 years that Jonathan starts studying archaeology while Dio pursues a law career (could be inferred it was part of his plan to get the Joestars’ fortune, but that’s never truly mentioned).
1888 comes. At some point in this year, Dio visits Wang Chen’s shop located in Ogre Street to buy the poison he would later use on his adoptive father, George.
1888, still: George Joestar falls “ill” at some point here. We are also told about Jack The Ripper's activity being at it's peak around this time. Based on the info available about the period of activity of real life's Ripper as well as other info given later on in PB, George’s “illness” should have happened somewhere between early-to-mid September (or late-ish September at most).
Days later, Jonathan finds Dario Brando’s letter in the library of the Joestars, which seems to incriminate Dio in regards to George’s “illness”.
Going mainly by some of the actual dates given later on, it can be inferred that Jojo’s trip to London (Ogre Street) take place somewhere in early to mid October, 1888.
After leaving the Joestar estate, it takes Jonathan at least 3-ish days to get to Ogre Street.
October, 1888, Jonathan and Speedwagon meet for the first time. Worried about Jojo, Speedwagon resolves to follow and help him. They both go to Wang Chen’s shop, get the antidote Jojo was looking for, they capture Wang Chen and start travelling back to Liverpool, all likely in the same night/day.
It takes another 3 days for Jonathan, now along with Speedwagon and a captured Wang Chen, to get back to Liverpool. Basically, Jonathan was away from his home for about 7 or 8 days.
Around a day or two shy from Jojo coming back home is when we see Dio getting drunk by the docks in Liverpool, where he ends up killing a drunkard and turning the man’s companion into a vampire.
It is implied that the timeframe between the sunrise that kills the vampire and the moment Dio gets back to the Joestar estate is of at least a whole day. It’s possible that it could have been 2 days even, considering that Dio comes back home clean, with his injuries (which included a broken collarbone and a serious blood loss) bandaged and patched, meaning that he most likely took the time to get his injuries properly treated. This idea could also be supported by the fact that George seems to be doing much better now compared to days prior. As effective as an antidote can be, it’s very unlikely for it to give such considerable results in less than 24 hours. There’s also the fact that the place is ‘packed’ with policemen and everything is set up and ready by the time Dio gets back.
Later on on the night Dio gets back, George Joestar gets killed along with all the policemen there and Dio becomes a vampire.
The fight and eventual fire at the Joestar mansion takes place over the course of that same night.
Still on that same night (seemingly before dawn), after the fight has ended and despite his own heavy injuries, Speedwagon manages to carry an unconscious Jonathan to a hospital.
Given Speedwagon's nature and behavior towards Jonathan, it could be inferred that he is forced to leave the hospital over the course of the following day to Jonathan’s admission into the hospital, most likely due to his backgrounds and ‘seedy’ looks (as hinted later on). This paired up with the fact that he most likely used whatever money and goods he had on him to cover at the very least Jojo’s admittance to the hospital, its very likely that Spw ended up with no means to pay for proper healthcare for himself and had to go get his own injuries and broken bones treated somewhere else, coming back 3 days later. Considering we see his Ogre Street friends tagging along when he comes to visit, it’s very likely that they all met somewhere halfway between London and Liverpool, or even somewhere within Liverpool (given the 3 day window we have here, as well as Spw showing up bandaged).
That day when Speedwagon comes back is also the day him and Erina meet for the first time in a less than savory way, Speedwagon is once again forced to leave.
That same night, past midnight, Speedwagon breaks into the hospital where he witnesses Jonathan regain consciousness and, also, learns a little bit about the background between the Jojo and Erina.
It is implied that it is until the following day that Speedwagon finally gets to see a now conscious Jonathan.
It can be inferred that Jojo’s stay at the hospital was about a week or a couple weeks long at least considering the degree of his injuries (burns, broken bones, cuts/stab wounds, traumas, etc) and the fact that he wasn’t a hamon user by then, meaning that his healing process was the same to that of any other average human.
It’s also very likely that Jojo meets Zeppeli (and learns that Dio is still alive) about a month/month and a half after the fire at the mansion, as we can see Jojo has mostly recovered by the time they meet, being his arm the only part that seems to have not reached a full recovery yet (broken bones usually take about a month or a little more to fully heal on average). All of this is also supported by the fact that the next time we see Speedwagon, his own injuries (which also included broken bones) are completely healed as well.
This same day that Jojo and Will meet, Jojo becomes a hamon user and heals completely. By this point, it should be around mid-November already.
It’s somewhere around those weeks/month that Jojo was recovering that a now zombified Wang Chen took a heavily injured Dio to London, where they met Jack The Ripper and "recruited" him, before the three went to hide in Windknight’s Lot. It’s also very likely that the three of them began “kidnapping” townspeople from Windknight’s Lot around this time as well, giving Dio plenty of time to heal almost completely by the time we see him again.
Zeppeli begins to train with Jonathan as soon as they meet. The intensive training by the river lasts 2 weeks only.
It’s by the end of the second week of training that Wang Chen shows up and is allowed to escape as a part of Zeppeli's plan. During the last days of the training as well, Speedwagon sets off to gather information from his sources in the crime world about Dio’s possible whereabouts and the group heads out to Windknight’s Lot right away. It's late November already by this point.
It’s also vaguely implied that Jonathan has moved and has been living in London for a bit, and so it takes a whole day for the group to get to Windknight’s Lot (it’s stated that Windknight’s is a day-ride away from London, going to the South).
During the morning of November 30th/December 1st (1888 still), the group reaches the entrance tunnel to Windknight’s Lot.
The reason behind this not having a clear date is because the fight between Jonathan and Dio at the castle takes place on Dec 1st, but it’s possible that it happened either during the first hours of Dec 1st (meaning that the group reached Windknight’s on the morning of Nov 30th and that the fight against Dio took place after midnight), or that they arrived to Windknight’s on the morning of Dec 1st and that the fight took place around the late part of the day and before Dec 1st’s midnight. Either way, most of the events we see in this arc (the encounter with Poco, the battles against Bruford and Tarkus, Zeppeli’s death, the arrival of the monks from Tibet, the encounters with Dio and so on), all of them happen in less than 24 hours, as pointed out by Speedwagon to Poco by the end of the final battle at Dio’s castle, as Spw cradles and takes care of an exhausted Jonathan, but let’s break it down a little:
The group is intercepted in the tunnel by Jack The Ripper at some point in the morning, shortly after the group’s arrival.
The fight against Jack The Ripper probably takes at the very least about an hour or so. Then add whatever time it took Jonathan to continue training and also heal his and Speedwagon’s wounds from the fight (Zeppeli and Speedwagon were hostile towards each other by this point, plus Jona was still training his hamon in every way he could, so it’s a given that Jojo healed Speedwagon). Also add the time it took them to get out of the tunnel by foot and finally reach the actual town.
By the time we meet Poco, the sun is about to set. Nights are particularly long in England during Autumn/Winter, with the Sun starting to set around 4pm, so that could more or less be an estimate of the time of the day here at this point.
By the time the group crosses the lake and Dio finally shows up it’s dark already. He then ‘awakens’ Bruford and Tarkus. Bruford is defeated after what it’s assumed to have been a long fight, however, Tarkus manages to strike the first loss for the Joestar group...
There’s no date set in stone (as it could be either Nov 30th or Dec 1st as stated before) but, on this same day, Will Zeppeli dies.
Just hours later, after the also long chase and battle against Tarkus, on the same day too, Dire also dies. A trivia of sorts that no one mentions is how Zeppeli and Dire were close friends for more than two decades and how they coincidentally shared a similar fate, dying a cruel death and on the same day, just a few hours apart from each other.
Also, December 1st, 1888: Dio is defeated and assumed dead.
The official report of the missing persons in Windknight’s is dated December 1st, although it is documented and made public until December 4th.
By December 15th, over two weeks after Dio's "death", we are told that Jonathan, Speedwagon, Straizo and Tonpety haven’t left Windknight’s Lot yet. This is also the day when the stone mask that the Joestars kept in their home for years was finally destroyed. There is no official date set for the group’s return to London, but it could be assumed they left Windknight’s in the following days after this.
December, 1888 (no specific day set): Lisa Lisa was born.
February 2nd, 1889, Jonathan and Erina get married.
The scene at the docks, when everyone comes to say their goodbyes to the newlyweds as they prepare for their honeymoon, takes place on February 3rd.
The last days of peace after the battle in Windkight’s Lot go by, during the cruise (Feb 3rd to Feb 7th). Then, that day, Dio strikes again and...
February 7th, Jonathan Joestar dies.
Also Feb 7th, both of Lisa Lisa’s biological parents die along with almost every other passenger on the cruise.
On February 9th, after two days in the open sea, Erina and the baby are rescued in the Canary Islands, Spain. It is unclear when she got back to England, though, but it most likely happened days later, shortly after a brief stay at a local hospital to make sure the baby and her were in good condition to be sent back home.
And that’s pretty much it as far as PB goes! After this point (and before Part 2 takes place), we can also add:
May 22nd, 1889, the group photo that we see later on of Straizo, Speedwagon, baby Lisa Lisa, and Erina got taken on this date.
1889 -no day/month specified-, George Joestar II is born (around the second half of the year).
There’s no specific date/year set, but according to the Jojo Magazine, Speedwagon travels to America in the early 20th century (somewhere between 1900 and 1905-ish, most likely) where he finds oil in the Texas desert and creates his oil company.
1910, using the financial power and wealth amassed through his oil company, the Speedwagon Foundation is created.
Stuff from this point and on falls under the Battle Tendency timeline, so I’m leaving it here.
Please let me know if you notice any mistakes at any point or if you see I missed something so I can add or fix stuff accordingly. I re-read this whole thing god-knows-how-many-times but its still possible I missed some stuff!
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aforgotto · 1 month
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you cannot change my mind george joestar ii was absolutely fucking whipped for lisa lisa starting from the age of 9 when she kicked his ass on the playground
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