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bookaboutabook · 2 years
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what on earth was that. SOB(h) continues to kill me. as always here are my memes:
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screaming barfing crying.
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Crazy twp theory time (fill free to pick out plot holes lol)
I was reading about the legend of Arthur and came to the conclusion that... livvy will be the lady of the lake
The Lady of the lake is a powerful figure in The legend of Arthur and basically does a whole bunch of crazy stuff 😭 ( trapping people in trees) but the main thing is she gifts Arthur a magical sword , lives in a lake, and is very powerful.
- Lady of the lake is not really a hero but more in the grey zone
-livvy will not only be a powerful "sorceresses" that's helps the twp gang but will gift kit a sword powerfull enough to defeat a greater demon(Lucifer, Belial) ? ( do not think Ash will receive the weapon because he already has heosphoros)
- in ghosts of the Shadow market it was established that Livvy was having some weird connection with Dimmit tarn and kept being drawn there
- kit asking Jace about his signature weapon in qoaad I think really was a pointer from CC hintting that kit would get a cool weapon or something significant
-generally Livvy just has some really interesting connections with lakes in general (like being resurrected at one..duh 😂)
And I mean the parallels between the artwork I've seen is crazy
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:) Merry Christmas tsc fans
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jo-herondale · 2 years
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SOBH thoughts:
Very mixed feelings. Oof. Ok.
First things first, I'm glad to hear that Ty has adapted well to the Scholomance and is making friends. He's getting a sense of normalcy he desperately needed and deserved. Also, how cute is the sibling dynamic between Ty and Dru? We love to see siblings bonding even if it's because of trauma.
Now for the worrisome parts, Ty is clearly deluding himself into thinking bringing Livvy back is a good thing because she's "happy". He doesn't see yet that what she's forced to go through is basically torture. Imagine seeing all your loved ones grow up, have lives of their own which you can be no part of and watching them move on while you're stuck forever at 15 unable to touch or speak with anyone that isn't a ghost.
What's done is done but I thought he would be at least a little remorseful like he seemed to be in Ghosts Of The Shadow Market. This is going to be a huge conflict in TWP. I can see Kit telling Ty something along the lines of "You really don't see how screwed up this whole situation is. I don't even recognize you anymore. Like who are you to decide who gets to live or die. Who do you think you are?" because let's face it, we can love Ty and still recognize that what he did was selfish. Kit was right about that, even if he said it because he was mad. Ty clearly didn't think ahead. Like let's pretend that the resurrection was successful, how was he going to explain Livvy's return without having his family striped of their runes and then exiled and worst of all getting himself the death penalty. Because I don't know if you remember but in the shadow world necromancy is punished by death.
I'm worried that things are going to get out of hand very quickly. I have a theory that the tear Ty left in the fabric of the universe after the resurrection will be a loophole for the Princes of Hell to get through. Obviously Ty will not accept it at first that the necromancy may have made everything worse but once shit hits the fan he will realize it very abruptly and I'm scared how he's going to deal with it. It will be a lot of emotions all at once and it will hit him like a ton of bricks.
Also, before anyone says Kit would never say that to Ty, yes he would. As much as people like to dumb down and sugarcoat Kit and have his only personality being a simp for Ty, a disaster bi and occasionally a goofy big brother for Mina (you know damn well that's all they portay him as), he is so much more. He has a moral code and he knows that what happened is beyond fucked up.
Once he's had time to digest everything that happened and deal with his trauma, you know he damn well will tell Ty how royally they BOTH fucked up with the resurrection. Yes, Kit is in love with Ty but I don't think he will sugarcoat things for him like many people believe he does.
Unfortunately this is a situation where there'll be no winners. Whether or not Livvy stays it will be a disaster either way.
Side note: I know this may seem like I'm attacking Ty but I'm not. This letter was mostly based on Ty's feelings and pov and I wanted to focus on that. Because if I start writing about how kit screwed up in this situation this will end up at least 10 pages worth of writing. But I will analyse Kit's screw up at some point. I've said this before but they BOTH made mistakes that they should be held accounted for and need to apologize for.
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emmablackstairs13 · 2 years
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I think in all this Kitty content we're ignoring the actual kitty content, which is the fact that irene can now play dead and a ghost taught her that
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dreamofshadowss · 2 years
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“Livia.”. “Livvy, my baby, please, sweetheart, open your eyes, it’s Jules, I’m here for you, I’m always here for you, please, please—”
Lord of Shadows
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aroace-cat-lady · 2 years
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Ty and Kit can see Livvy.
Ty because he was the one performing the spell.
Jace cant see Livvy. So why Kit can??
Okay, hear me out.
What if its because he is the reason the ritual worked in the first place?? Because he is the reason Livvy is here.
That would mean Kit is connected to Livvy somehow, just as Ty. And that Livvy is connected to the First Heir idk what that would mean but knowing cassie nothing good.
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theamazingwhizzo · 2 years
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Thule!Livvy: How do you know?
Kit: In my dimension, we've been friends for years.
Thule!Livvy: You mean we were friends, because there I'm dead.
Kit: Yes... For legal reasons, that's what I meant.
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thornschild · 2 years
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do we believe in ty when he says livvy is happy?
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cortanas-wielder · 2 years
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Me explaining the plot of TDA:
'So there's this girl and she is in love with her best friend who's the hottest guy you've ever seen. But their love is forbidden by the law. However Lex mala Lex nulla. Then the boy hiss like great-great-great-grandma is resurrected from the dead and they travel to another demention where the boys sister is still alive and the world is evil. Then a cat kinda saves them out of the demention. The the boy saves the girls life and then they turn into giant angels. Back to humans and now their love is not forbidden anymore.'
My friend:
Me: 'Also there is this boy who thinks his crush doesn't like him back so he flees to England.'
My friend: *slowly walks away*
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Livvy has gotten very poetic in her ghostlyness
I hope shes okay
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folkleverty · 2 years
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Guys I don't think the plot for TWP will be that circle about Dru going after Jaime and get lost, then Ty going after her and also get lost and then Kit going after him... We are forgetting our other main plot, LIVVY!!!
I think the last update of sobh is more related with what will happen to Dru in the series. I think it's kinda a hint of how maybe she will start getting info of Jaime's mission and try to find him. Taking that, probably she will see Ash again and she probably found out his plan or sth, but for sure she will end up hating him.
Now, about Ty and Kit... I think that is more probably that Tiberius ask Kit's help, because something is wrong with Livvy. Ty won't include Dru in that because 1. He doesn't want sth bad happen to her. 2. Probably he knows she is more into find Jaime. (maybe it's both or just number one) So... Ty -this is hard-, he doesn't have nobody else to ask help in this situation than Kit. The last question he made was "How long do you think it will take you to forgive me?" and after those years between sobh and twp, he will probably think that maybe it's enough time.
PD: My other theory of the reason Ty ask help is because Livvy k1ll Anush (this was a funny theory I made in a boring day lmao)
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msbrightsides · 2 years
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What is it about Blackthorns becoming ghosts? I’m still not convinced the ghost is Rupert but it would be sad if Jesse and his dad had to suffer as ghosts? But also it’s definitely not Rupert bc Jesse would’ve mentioned if he saw his dad roaming the house while he lived there. There’s no way Rupert avoided him for seven years. And then obviously Livvy has been a ghost for a bit now. Annabel almost was but instead was subjected to being stuck in her body. Cassie really doesn’t want to let blackthorns just die.
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kotorafern · 2 years
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I feel like even with GOTSM we didn’t get much of Ty’s internal struggle with Kit leaving, and I was wondering when Cassie was gonna bring up how Ty feels. We had only read about how kit was brooding for most of sobh and we didn’t even know if Ty missed him or not. I’m so happy about this sobh update😃
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catrassimp · 2 years
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it is still heartbreaking to me that livvy is a ghost and sees her family live their lives without being able to be there and without them knowing she’s always there
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aroace-cat-lady · 2 years
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Things i need to say about this SoBH so i might go back to be a funtional human being
-Livvy going to Julian seeking for help even now cuz she loves him and admires him so much i just-
-I dont know what'd be of me if Jules does dream with Livvy.
-TY BLACKTHORN IS THE PUREST HUMAN ON THIS EARTH AND YOU CAN FIGHT ME WITH THIS BUT YOU'LL LOSE. Ty doesnt like surprises but you do
-"The sun came throw the window and lit him up" / "'Ah, Watson' said Ty 'you may not yourself be luminous, but you are an extraordinary conductor of light'" Idk this just killed me
-Im glad we had Livvy's pov for this installment. She's the only one who can read Ty like an open book, and i think kit and Ty were just Too Shocked to perceive what the other was feeling, and so we got a glance of both.
-Ty doesnt like surprises and seeing Kit after all this time unexpectedly and ten times hotter must have been the fucking mother of surprises.
-Not even Livvy knows how Ty knows how to clean a gun.
-The first thing Kit said to Ty after "I wish i've never met you" was "You shouldn't be here" and now the last thing he have ever told him is "No, not now".
-"Im not saying I forgive you, but maybe I understand more". Just think on all the things Kit wanted to tell to Ty. And all he could was I dont know
-Maybe there was a reason. Maybe it was Kit’s hands crushing in on themselves, till I thought the bones would break like hearts. Oh, i've cheek the counting of broken hearts and it says ALL OF US
-Julian, I don’t know what to do. Ty misses Kit more than he thought he could miss someone. He misses him as much now as he did the day he left. He loves him the same. I think he always will and it scares me.
Kit is used to not needing people, but Ty needs people. He is afraid to need people but that is only because he needs them so much. He is not going to stop needing Kit. I don’t know if Kit will always need Ty. But Ty will always need him. I DROPPED DEAD WITH THESE TWO
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