#gifted kid discourse

[trans-axolotl]

gifted kid discourse makes me insane why are people who are still calling themselves former gifted kids failing to recognize that the type of burnout they r describing is not exclusive to gifted programs and that in fact many neurodivergent children, diagnosed or not, spend their school education being told that they are stupid and that also fucks you up and leads to burnout. that’s not even getting into the ways gifted programs are used to enforce segregation and the huge amounts of racism in gifted programs. like gifted programs are structurally fucked up on so many levels but acting like burnout from being in gifted kids program was an experience that the poor “average” or “dumb” neurodivergent kids couldn’t possible understand is so completely fucked up and what a missed opportunity to build some meaningful solidarity in the way that the school system completes fucks over neurodivergent kids. like some of these people I’m seeing on Twitter need to understand that things like having crushing expectations and having emotional needs ignored and not having accommodations that help you set up for success in adult life are things that many, many neurodivergent children experience. some of us are just called stupid while all of this is happening, or get diagnosed with ODD and pushed into the school to prison pipeline, because we can’t fucking talk about gifted programs without talking about race and class and I am just so tired of seeing this discourse and seeing gifted kids deconstruct the idea that these programs are harmful, but not stop to consider that the existence of these programs is also harming the kids who aren’t in the programs AND that the school system in general is so fucked and that early diagnosis rarely leads to accommodations and support, and often times fucks you up as well.

okay off my soapbox goodnight

#personal #gifted kid discourse #this is not a vague post about mutuals btw. not a vague post about anyone but Twitter

[awfullybigwardrobe44]

The gifted kid system didn’t just hurt the gifted kids

#gifted kid #gifted kid things #gifted kid discourse #gifted kid burnout culture is #my journey #just me #I’ve been left with a Complex of wanting to be extraordinary my entire life

[headbuds]

"gifted kids don't really have it bad compared to _ kids and they benefit from [system of oppression] and get called smart and get talked about a lot and stuff so they can't complain. Also their forms of distress are invalid because they're not the only ones that go through that and other people have it worse"

Literally the same logic as

"trans men don't have it bad compared to _ and they benefit from [system of oppression] and get treated as their genders and treated well by the system of oppression and stuff so they can't complain. Also their forms of distress are invalid because they're not the only ones that go through that and other people have it worse"

People realize that, right?

#gifted kid discourse

[purplefixations]

Gentle reminder to all high verbal and/or low support needs autistics (such as myself) that being a gifted kid, or a former gifted kid, is not a trait of autism. There are a lot of us who are now diagnosed as autistic who were gifted kids, but the spectrum is really big. Yes, it is great that a lot of us can understand similar experiences, it's something that helped me a lot personally. However, please don't make it a serious thing where people (both autistic and allistics) start to think that either all former gifted kids are autistic, or if your autistic that means you had to have been a former gifted kid.

Everyone's experience on the spectrum is valid, and relating to someone is great and it's very validating, however, we need to remember the effects that our relating to each other can have outside the community. The way we talk about ourselves and our experiences can influence the way allistic people view autism as a whole (and yes, I do think that is stupid because what a lot of people refuse to understand is that it's a huge spectrum for a reason).

So to all autistic people who were never considered to be gifted by teachers or the school system, the ones who were put in special ed, the ones who teachers despised, I see you and your experiences are valid. I sincerely hope you do not feel left out or excluded from parts of the community because of other people's experiences. You are so valid, and I'm so sorry that the school system failed us all.

Love you!!

#actually autistic #autism #low support needs #gifted kid discourse #gifted kid #burnt out gifted kid #autism is a spectrum goddamn it!

[fretbored34]

Just major in pharmacy, then you can be both 🤷‍♀️

#dank memes #fresh memes #funny memes #memes #lol #funny but true #so true #me irl lol #funny but not funny haha #oh no lol #gifted #gifted kid things #gifted kid shit #gifted kid problems #gifted kid discourse #gifted kid syndrome #drug addikt #narcotics drugs #pharmacy #pharmd #science #mad scientist #crossroads #fork in the road #why choose #work smarter not harder #both of them #both is good #both #grad school

[howdoyousayloco]

Getting older as a "gifted kid" is just coming to terms with the fact that you're not going to be famous and rich and will probably just go to college and get a normal job because you are not driven enough to succeed in unconventional ways because you're used to things being easy

#gifted kid problems #gifted #gifted kid syndrome #gifted kid discourse #gifted kid burnout #gifted kid things #vent #shower thoughts #shower thinking

[adrunkgiraffe]

I think the conversation around gifted kid burnout is kind of sad because like. What could be a really productive conversation around how the divisions within the school system don't actually even help the people it deemed as "smart" has just sort of turned into "haha you got traumatized cause someone told you you were good at reading when you were 7."

and like. Part of the problem is the best way to express the former is for people who fit into the "gifted kid" category to talk about their own experiences. And, admittedly, as a person who very much did NOT fit into that category, I also sometimes hear those stories as whining about privileges one has. And we shouldn't ignore that having access to a lot of books at an early age, and parents who can be at home often to help you read them, are things that give gifted programs an affluent slant, as well as a white one. "Gifted kid" is not an axis of oppression.

But just stopping at that isn't enough, because what we actually need to realize using the stories of gifted kids feeling lied to and unsupported is that the school system works on a very essentialist view of intelligence. Things a lot of people who were told they didn't fit that essentialist criteria already knew, but this is sort of proof. Because being labeled as "gifted", as we've seen from these posts, doesn't actually net you the support you need to develop skills to help yourself learn later.

and Idk I just think using this conversation to mock people who say they got fucked over is a waste of time

#gifted kid discourse #burnout discourse #gifted kid burnout #actually adhd #the school system fucks over a lot of people #in different ways #and societal systems of oppression #SPECIFICALLY class and race #play into that #but the important part to remember is #it doesnt even help the people it likes #it just fucks them over less and differently

[skeletonsescapedthelab]

Why is it when people talk about how the US school system hurts kids they automatically go to gifted kids and only gifted kids? Why is gifted kid burnout talked about online so much but other ways the school system hurts average or below avarge kids is not? I think it's because we care more about smart people than others.

Once I actually saw a quora post asking why special needs kids get more funding than gifted kids when the gifted ones will be the ones contributing to society. I'm assuming I don't need to explain why that's fucked up on many levels.

Think about the smart ass hole trope.

I didn't get diagnosed until late, when I was the school did nothing for me, I had zero self esteem and school made me depressed. My best wasn't good enough and I was always stressed. I still have nightmares I have to go back to school.

Other nerodivergent kids don't get accommodations just like I didn't. My sister had an IEP and those classrooms were worse and she lost self esteem. ( gifted kids are also nerodivergent)

I'm sick of reading articles about school trumma and it's about some kid who was just bored in class and had to help others out.

I get gifted kids have a lot of pressure on them and that hurts them. But guess what? Every one else has expectations on them to.

Non gifted kids fail ppl's expectations and feel like a disappointment as well.

But we are never included in the social media conversation. I can find articles from parents of special needs kids and the occasional yt video including struggling kids or special ed but that's it.

Most people who complain about school leave us out.

Gifted kids act like they are the only ones hurt and never include average/below avarge kids in the conversation.

Did you ever think about how it felt to feel like you had no talents? To feel like you couldn't even accomplish easy things?

Once I worked really hard on a story in middle school, and the only feedback I got back was a note saying to spell better so she could understand it.

Gifted kids will never know what it's like to feel unvauled.

I sympathize with gifted kids knowing they feel ashamed of asking for help, like a disappointment, depressed. So do so many other groups of kids.

When will we stop acting like gifted kids are the only ones fucked over by the US school system?

#gifted #gifted kids #gifted kid discourse #gifted kid problems #gifted kid things #autism #autistic #adhd #nerodivergent #school #high school #middle school #elementary school #depression #anxitey

[princealberich]

I've been thinking of writing an essay on something, so. Here's a Poll :]

NOTE: I'm not talking about AP or extra classes. I'm specifically talking about replacement classes labelled as for "gifted & talented" students.

#mental health #gifted and talented #gifted kid syndrome #gifted kid discourse #gifted kid shit #gifted kid things #gifted #school #student #opportunity class #i have a hypothesis or w/e on the results so id very much like to see

[inthecratersofthemoon]

"Discourse". Ha. You think people's experiences can be "discoursed" about.

It really upsets me when people think former burnt out gifted kids are lying about their experiences or assumes they're just sad they didn't live up to their expectations. Gifted kid burnout is real. It is not always experienced by neurodivergent gifted kids. Neurodivergence can be a factor in "gifted kid burnout". The way neurodivergent people are expected to perform in fast-paced, capitalist, contemporary society leads to "gifted kid burnout". Quit being shitty. Just stop. Stop assuming the worst about everybody. Not everyone is just an attention-seeking narcissist or a liar or someone who didn't perceive things correctly. They're not average people with a lot of privilege just overestimating themselves either. It's not "You thought you were smart but you're actually not!" (I HATE THIS ONE THE MOST, IT GETS UNDER MY SKIN) Sometimes really smart people suffer, okay? I saw people assuming bullied and socially excluded kids somehow deserved it because of one case of a "bullied kid" actually being a racist bully kid who sort of deserved what was coming to him that went viral. "Oh, all the popular kids at my school were actually super nice and that's why they were popular!" Good for you. My elementary school's popular kids were cruel and materialistic and they made fun of me because I was poor and ADHD/autistic. You do not know the minds of strangers. Every human being is an iceburg. I can't believe there is discourse about......... how people fucking feel about themselves and their lives. It disgusts me. Hivemind discourse and groupthink LIKE THIS makes me want to throw up. It's all over Twitter. I'm seeing it pop up here too. It SUCKS ASS. KNOCK IT OFF. There is A LOT wrong with the education system. It is traumatic much of the time. All of it, from gifted programs to special ed, needs to be re-evaluated. The way we sort children is wrong. But this is the same website that had a shit ton of discourse on asexuality as a sexual orientation. It just exists, people. Things outside of your experiences exist and people experience the world differently than you do. There are 8 billion + human experiences running right now and they are all different and complex. Imagine people complexly.

#gifted kid burnout #gifted kid discourse #former gifted kid

[tedkaczynskiofficial]

I don't know if I'm going to publish the actual rant I have in my drafts, but some of y'all need to realize that making "former 'gifted' kid burnout" your whole personality is unhealthy, and that maybe you should take the "I'm not actually special" thing to heart more. Most people are bad at studying. Most people don't handle being bad at things well. Most people have shit self-discipline. Like, the whole problem was people telling you you're special and fucking with your perceptions. Why are you continuing that by acting like struggle is some exceptional thing only a small group of people experience?

Yeah, you had a weird/bad experience as a kid. Good news! You can choose to do something about it now.

#i'm not even going to get into the fact that most gifted kids aren't actually gifted #anywho #there's a place for venting #but at some point you have to realize that you're an adult #and you have control over your life #'i never learned how to study' #most people never learned how to study #at least not effectively #good thing you're an adult with access to the internet. #time to learn lol #gifted kid #former gifted kid #gifted kid discourse #gifted kid burnout

[metaphoricaltigers]

I was saved from gifted kid syndrome by having an older brother who's even smarter than me. now I just have normal trauma.

#personal #gifted kid discourse

[floreuce]

i know there’s enough gifted kid discourse on this website but being labeled gifted in elementary school really fucked up my entire life and perception of myself. i honestly would argue that being “gifted” is a learning disability in and of itself. telling kids with forms of learning disabilities that they’re better and smarter than other kids just sounds like a recipe for disaster and i am living proof. we’ve been set up for more failure than if we’d just been put with normal kids. idk.

#just ramblings in my head #🪐 #gifted kid #gifted kid discourse

[souvlakiandcocaine]

I can always tell which people making fun of gifted kids didn’t grow up in an abusive immigrant household

#my txt #gifted kid discourse

[aro-throughyourchest]

being conventionally smart versus academically and growing up gifted kid isn't much of anything. it's just knowing thing and filling in blanks or using bigger words like homestuck or an 1800s novel

#gifted kid things #gifted kid set #gifted kid problems #school #gifted kid discourse

[alondisstorm]

can we please stop calling kids "gifted" for being academically talented because let me tell y'all it's a fucking curse and if anyone ever calls me gifted to my face again, I will throw hands

#gifted kid discourse #mental health #depression #social anxiety #dissociation