i will never forgive marvel for making Loki and Sylvie romantic instead of letting them be the chaos twins we deserved...the sibling energy was immaculate and then they just...ripped it away
Whoever on Sony's production team decided to cut from the first movie the scenes where 1. Dan CARRIES Eddie out of the lobster tank like a toddler and 2. Eddie asks Anne in the woods "Who did I kiss just then?" and she says "Mostly me" but then Venom screams in the most STUPIDLY ENTHUSIASTIC VOICE "WELL ACTUALLY IT WAS MOSTLY ME" NEEDS TO BE IMPRISONED FOR SUPPRESSING IMPORTANT INFORMATION FROM THE PUBLIC
Alright let's talk about Loki and Good Omens.
Before anyone tries anything, I am going to state upfront that I am a biromantic asexual. So keep that in mind before you automatically take what I want to say in bad faith and go to accuse me of bigotry.
I want to talk about how the only ones benefitting from the way we handle queer rep discourse right now are the queerphobic networks and execs.
First, let's look at Loki. The MCU's first canonically queer character. Since episode 4 came out yesterday, I have seen multiple accusations go around of people who are upset about the hinted romance between Loki and Sylvie being biphobic. Bi people are allowed to date people of the opposite gender, you say. And of course they are. But you are purposefully missing the whole point of why people are upset.
The MCU is a 13 year old franchise and Loki is the first time they are actively acknowledging the existance of queer people. This, despite how infuriating it is, is pretty par for the course when it comes to fantasy and sci-fi media. These two genres are notoriously horrible when it comes to diversity and the portrayal of queerness. So it's only natural that people are going to be upset about what Disney is doing right now, and no, they aren't upset because they hate bisexuals.
Fiction in inherently limited to what is portrayed on screen/in the text. We don't know a character's every thought and feeling and we have not seen their entire life. Which is why good media follows the 'show not tell' rule. A character making an off-handed comment about their sexuality is never going to be enough representation, not when Marvel continues to refuse to portray explicity queer relationships or have their queer characters have any experiences tied to their queerness at all.
So sure, bisexuals can date people of the opposite gender and still be bisexual, obviously. But why are you guys acting as it that isn't how most bi people are portrayed anyways? Aren't most bisexual characters only shown being in het-alighned relationships and their identities only acknoleghed like a couple of times in passing converations? Please point me to the abundance of bisexual characters in fantasy and sci-fi shows who have actually been shown being in a relationship with a person of the same gender or have explicitly gone through stuff linked to their queer identity. Please go ahead.
Now let's look at Good Omens, specifically Aziraphale and Crowley's relationship. The constant discourse there is that queer relationships don't always need to be physical. "Aziraphale and Crowley can be asexual!!!! They don't have to kiss on screen for their relationship to be valid!!!!!" Okay fine but can you please first point me to all of those explicit mlm couples that you are refering to when you use the word always. What does always mean in this case? Are you telling me that fantasy and sci-fi shows are so oversaturated with explicit mlm and wlw relationships that some change of pace is desparately needed?
All of this discourse around the two shows is purposefully ignoring the history of homophobia in film and TV. Despite the code being removed almost sixty years ago, the film indistry is still in the shackles of the fucking Hays code. Queerness is viewed as dirty and sinful. Queer men and viewed as sick predators. MLM relationships are treated are perverted and nsfw and will someone please think of the children!
So why, please tell me, WHY are you giving the powers that be such loopholes for them to continue to not portray queerness while wearing a brand new woke hat? Do you not realise that you are giving Disney the option to continue to never portray queer relationships because all they had to do was write one short line of dialogue and now whenever someone tries to demand mlm representation they are going to be accused of biphobia. Loki can go on to never be shown having interest in someone of the same gender or having queer experiances at all, be it discussing his identity or anyone else around him acknowledging it or having his part experiences shape his behavior or anything at all that is just part of real queer people's lives. And people will continue to uphold his character as good representation because he said the sentence "a bit of both". Disney would rather Loki go and fuck a female version of himself than portray a mlm relationship on screen and you go and accuse people of biphobia for pointing that out.
Nuance is great. It's needed. But, perhaps, before we start talking about the nuances of sexuality and identity and the nature of queer relationships we should at least get to see some gay people kiss on screen, don't you think? When there is sufficient mlm and wlw representation in fantasy and sci-fi shows and movies, we can go on to talk about all of these things. But until then all you're doing is giving networks the excuse to never show an ounce of queerness on screen and then market their product as queer rep becase the writer said they love each other on twitter and oh if you object to that at all you're acephobic because their relationship doesn't have to be physical! Nevermind that homophobia still holds that industry by the throat and they continue to find gay relationships are disgusting and less than and to be avoided at all cost.
TL:DR - let some gay people kiss on screen first before you start giving networks exuses to not portray explicit queerness.
Let's talk about Loki (comic)
Some of his known powers are:
Energy blast, super strength
Illusion magic, matter manipulation
Literally can't die
I know he has more powers, but does those abilities sound familiar???
He has the power of the infinity stones. Combined. And more. And some people can just go around ignoring this fact and even defend whatever the Marvel Cinematic Universe did to Loki???
sambucky: "he's not my partner"
also sambucky: yes I will follow you everywhere even if we die, no one can make fun of you except for me, yes fuck you (loving banter), *sigh* yeah I'll break the law for you AGAIN and keep a crazy bad man out of jail I GUESS, "I want to talk to her alone" "alright hun, you go, I believe in you, you got this, I know you can do it cause you've calmed ME down" - "she wants me to go alone" "fuck no" "alright cool", *stares every once in a while*, "yeah he's cool, he's hurt like everyone at some point or another and killed multiple people, but I will still be your friend and trust you :)", "I guess he is the only person I believe could be the new captian america, cause he's kind and uses words and kicks ass while also looking incredibly hot, he's genuinely a good man and all I want for him is to take the shield back and become what he's meant to be ya know?", Let me save you, roll around in flowers and then stay on top of you for no fucking reason but to only pester you, "soul gazing exercise" alright, let's fucking go, imma stare your soul out sam and will enjoy it, but also be slightly uncomfortable BECAUSE OF WHERE YOUR LEGS ARE