that's it. that's the episode.
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Torchwood will be like 'hmm maybe we should give Tosh some development', and the development is just doomed romance
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Tosh and Ianto in ‘Greeks Bearing Gifts’
Tosh ripping off the pendant after hearing Ianto’s thoughts is so cleverly done. She just sees how hard he’s trying to project that he’s alright when he’s absolutely not and actually succeeds in that, just for her to enter his mind and render his efforts null. I think she finally feels ashamed because the thoughts of others were not unexepcted to her and thus she didn’t feel like she was violating their privacy. But Ianto’s inner and outer personas are so different that she finally starts to understands her wrongdoing
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the vote saxon posters easter egg showing up in the background in cjh make me unreasonably excited just like this short scene from greeks bearing gifts did. it’s all coming together, blink and you’ll miss it. i’m going to have to rewatch the s3 finale trilogy after this aren’t i… so i can see jack in a new, more defined light
wonder who the leader of the opposition is… >:)
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jack saying “it (the sun) shouldn't be too hot. I mean, we sent her at night and everything” is so unserious
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yeah yeah Jack was a big asshole for telling Tosh he sent Mary to the center of the sun but telling Tosh that it shouldn't be hot because he sent her there at night is SO FUCKING FUNNY.
I fear that, unfortunately, he ate.
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underrated: the smiley face apple eraser that gwen has in greeks bearing gifts
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Big news for the Gwen/Owen bitches, BBC dumped their scripts online - turns out Countrycide had an alternate ending and I am FUMING THAT THEY DIDNT USE IT
It feels like a much better payoff than the final ending. I mean sure the final lines are a bit clunky and a callback to an earlier clunky line, but they could’ve tweaked it. And pretty close to how I would’ve wanted it to play out.
Bonus points for Chibs describing their “just fucked look” 😂
Moving onto Greeks Bearing Gifts, the script is even hornier than the episode, to the point where even Tosh remarks that Gwen and Owen should “get a room”. And we have this gem during Gwen’s roast of his post mortem:
WHEN I TELL YOU I LOST MY SHIT WHEN I READ THIS I MEAN IT
It got me thinking - we hear Owen fantasising about Gwen, but I don’t think Gwen has an equivalent!
Screenshots via @kirstyth who told me about the script dump.
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Oh and even though I was constantly going “poor Tosh” the line that stood out to me the most was “well I know which one my parents would say”...like damn Tosh had a lot going on for those couple of days
Honorable mention to Jack casually saying “That’s weird ‘cause when I’m about to murder someone I’m really careful not to talk to myself about it while I’m in the street.” 😂😂😂 never change Jack never change
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My favorite detail about the Greeks Bearing Gifts episode of Torchwood is how Tosh, after being held hostage by Mary, runs straight to Ianto instead of Owen. Both of them are standing relatively close to one another, though Ianto had a higher vantage point, so there’s no reason for Tosh not to have run to Owen. This is right after Tosh hears how Owen wouldn’t trade Gwen for her. So she chooses to run to Ianto, who hasn’t had a negative thought about Tosh the whole time she was wearing the pendant (that we can see).
Tosh/Ianto friendship remains supreme.
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so like. does ianto jones have chronic pain? because i’ve seen a few people mention it, and definitely seems to be a thing in Greeks Bearing Gifts and Broken, although it is presented a bit like emotional pain in Broken (the SUV scene is a bit vague though).
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Torchwood 1x07 - Greeks Bearing Gifts
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He wouldn’t FUCKING SAY THAT
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keeping this episode in my heart as a problematic fave due to the single transphobic joke and the unfortunate implications of featuring a literally predatory lesbian antagonist. however, the characterisation, drama and dialogue (as well as telepathic monologue) is just so brilliant that i can’t even try and pretend that i won’t be rewatching. still giving it five stars and a heart on tardisguide. sometimes there are missteps that are a product of their time (2006 for fuck’s sake wasn’t exactly a progressive era for opinions on trans people by the average cis population. i’m sure whithouse has changed his ways by now, he must have just been uneducated. casual transmisogyny was the norm. not an excuse by any means, but an explanation) one particularly shoddy line can’t ruin something so well written otherwise. that’s on that
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