#greystripe x silverstream

[t4twnyclaw]

adding onto the The New Prophecy/ The New Clan AU: feathertail x tawnypelt endgame, sorry.

they are canonically so interesting, being around the same age and both leaving their birth clan (feathertail stayed with greystripe in thunderclan at first.) They both left their birth clan to join a secondary clan to be closer to their other parent, Tigerstar and Silverstream. They also had trouble adapting to the secondary clan with Rowanclaw being especially mean to tawnypelt in TNP arc, and Tawnypelt seemingly have to continuously choose to be in Shadowclan.

#txt #many thoughts tonight kings...many thoughts. #i feel like ive mentioned feathertail and tawnypelt similarities before but so interesting #tawnypelt later as an elder/senior warrior doesnt seem to have any respect from her shadowclan clanmates #and despite being born in thunderclan she critizices dovewing for joining shadowclan to be with a loved one #and feathertail died before we could see how shed interact with riverclan but i feel like itd be the opposite for her #tawny x fern x feather polycule perhaps

[warriors-reshuffled]

In honor of Valentine’s Day, here are a list of ships I’m planning to include in my rewrite. Feel free to send asks about them.

Brokenstar x Blackfoot

Goldenflower x Moonclaw(Tigerclaw)

Lionheart x Frostfur + Whitestorm

Moss-shine(Mosskit) x Willowpelt

Silverstream x Sandstorm

Greypaw(Greystripe) x Barley

Cloudtail x Brightheart

Swiftfang(Swiftpaw) x Ferncloud x Snowdrop

Wolfstep(Brambleclaw) x Rowanclaw

#warriors au #warriors rewrite #ships #happy valentine's day

[ladynightlark]

Nine People You Would Like To Get To Know Better

Thank you @kuwajima for tagging me!

Three ships:

Princess Bubblegum x Marceline from Adventure Time (also Gary/Prince Gumball x Marshall Lee from AT & Fionna and Cake)

Steven x Connie from Steven Universe

Luz x Amity from The Owl House

First ship ever: Greystripe and Silverstream from The Warrior Cats series

Last song: My Love Mine All Mine by Mitski (I recently discovered her music like a month ago, and I am so in love with her voice and the way her music makes me feel)

Last movie: The Barbie Movie in theaters (I wasn't sure if I was going to like it or not, and I honestly had a good time watching it!)

Currently reading: The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes by Suzanne Collins. Was a HUGE Hunger Games fan in middle school, and now that I have a little more time, I'm trying to finish the book so I can see the movie when it comes out in November!

Currently watching: Buddy Daddies and My Hero Academia (specifically Season 6). I've put off finishing those for too long, but I REALLY want to finish them so I'm prepared for the new anime coming out.

Currently consuming: Leftover pasta from Olive Garden.

Currently craving: Jello...specifically orange jello. It's my comfort snack whenever I'm working and I don't want to eat anything but need to eat something but don't want to leave my dorm (lol)

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#ask #ask me questions #stuff about me #tagged people don't have to respond if they don't want to #totally up to you guys #thank you for tagging me! #Happy to do more stuff like this if anyone wants

[catlover-dead-inside]

I'll probably receive hate for this but:

Bluestar x Oakheart and Greystripe x Silverstream aren't good couples

I simply cannot like them, I think they're badly written and specially Oakheart. Fine, I get he's in theory a good character because of the actions he made, but he feels so shallow and nobody actually cares about him, his only big deal is be Crookedstar's brother and Bluestar's boyfriend. I also don't like Bluestar's character itself, she is a bad mother and after Forest of Secrets she becomes an atheist asshole who lost all her faith in her religion. But if I focus specifically on her romance with Oakheart, it's really bad written and thanks to her romance her sister and her daughter dies, she """had""" to give her two other kits to Oakheart... only for 3 books and 2 super editions later become a terrible character

As for Greystripe and Silverstream. Holly fuck, the only thing I like about Silverstream is her father. She's just a spoiled daddy's girl who throws a tantrum when things don't go on her way, I really don't like her character and how she's written. As for Greystripe, I loved him a lot in the start, he was just the chubby friend who is funny but tries his best and is supportive. But in Fire and Ice, everything is thrown in the window, he become a negligent mentor, stops talking with his best friend (which is normal for most of people drift away a bit when they get in a relashionship but still bad) and simply stop being loyal to his clan to be with his as the book describes ✨️ Elegant, Fluffy and Gorgeus Girlfriend ✨️ which is bullshit, I know it's the FoRbIdDeN rOmAnCe but still

There are better written forbidden romances in warriors, there are better written couples, both forbidden romance and one clan couples. I just can't stand the idea of how bad they wrote these couples, I don't like this stupid code that forbids different clan relashionships but you can't deny that to be a good couple IT SHOULD BE WELL WRITTEN

#warrior cats #erin hunter warriors #silverstream #bluestar #oakheart #greystripe #bluefur

[peculiarwhiskers]

Happy pride month y'all

For the first day of June, i decided to draw silverstream x princess. Before anyone tells me that this ship doesn't make sense, I am aware it doesn't. Not in canon, at least. I only ship these two because of an au of mine.

Basically, i just have characters in different roles in the story. Instead of firestar joining thunderclan, his sister does, instead of bluestar becoming leader, snowfur does, etc. Basically, i get to put more female characters in the spotlight lol.

Since I know many people ship firestar x greystripe and silverstream is filling greystripes role as best friend I just went ahead and made them a canon couple knew my au🤷‍♀️

#warrior cats #art #pride month #princess warrior cats #silverstream #princess x silverstream #warrior cats au #lesbian #wlw #nmlnm

[saffronscales]

i love greystripe and silverstream,, celebrity queen x loser bf

#warrior cats #warriors #cats #wc #art #greystripe #silverstream

[justcallmesolll]

Some wc ships i think are pretty neat :]

yeen rambles #5

Fireheart/star X Greystripe; a classic. old as time, cant go wrong with it. there was definitely something between them until Silverstream got ivlolved tbr.

Greystripe X Silverstream; it could've WORKED so well honestly.

Hawkfrost X Ashfur; OK I LOVE THIS ONE SM. it works super well and i think it makes the impact of the fire scene even bigger. i will probably extend on this at some point, but yea it just works so well.

Blackfoot/star X Sol; what is there to be said? they are iconic together.

Talltail/star X Jake; again, another classic. cute ship.

Greystripe X Longtail; HEAR ME OUT OK??? if greystripe decided to stop putting up with Firestars shit, (Which, he should have.) HE WOULD BE SUCH GREAT FRIENDS WITH LONGTAIL. C'MON????

Bluefur/star X Thrushpelt; they could've been so good honestly. missed opportunity smh.

Fireheart/star X Onewhisker/star; idk i feel like that could be interesting.

Rusty X Smudge; i think this is a funny ship tbh.

Hollyleaf X Fallenleaves; they were so cute together tbh.

Yellowfang X Bluefur/star; honestly they would've been great together. the chemistry between them is undeniable.

#i forgot Blackstars warrior name #i hope it was blackfoot #that or black claw #idk #anyways #warrior cats

[xarva]

Tag game: Answer these questions, then tag 9 people you want to get to know better.

Thank you for tagging me @dakrisart ! :D

3 ships:

idk, I'm generally a multishipper so I'm not dead set on these, but off the top of my head I like

Nina x Deliah from Das Haus Anubis

Peter x Jeffrey from die drei ???

Sai x Ino from Naruto lol

First ship: Silverstream x Greystripe from Warrior Cats the tragedy omg I was obsessed 😭

Last movie: "Ready or Not" (2019) with my family

Last song: "Rule #4- Fish in a Birdcage" by Fish in a Birdcage

currently reading: "Die Diversität der Ausbeutung" published by Eleonora Roldán Mendívil & Bafta Sarbo as well as "Leonce und Lena" by Georg Büchner

currently watching: yt videos about differential equations 🥲

and das Haus Anubis Season 3 with my partner

currently consuming: coffee

currently craving: eternal rest

If you're up to it @igthebug @dykelittlemy (⁠｡⁠･⁠ω⁠･⁠｡⁠)⁠ﾉ

#i'm talking

[warrior-cats-rants-galore]

Honestly, I hope Graystripe, Silverstream, and Millie live happily in StarClan as a poly couple. Jealous Silverstream isn't canon 😈

I've recently jumped on a Silverstream x Millie train, and it'd be even better if Graystripe could live with his two wives in peace.

#graystripe and millie #graystripe #greystripe #warriors #warrior cats headcanons #warrior cats #warriors headcanons #graystripe and silverstream #graystripe x millie x silverstream #no more jealous silverstream

[spirit-of-creativity16]

There Is No Such Thing As Bad Ships...Only Bad Crew Members

#yang x blake #asgore x toriel #greystripe x silverstream #star x marco #roxas x xion

[knightomoon-xd]

Don’t reblog this. Take a screenshot and tag your OTPS

#zoro x luffy #karkat x dave #sans x toriel #flowey x temmie #firestar x sandstorm #cloudtail x brightheart #greystripe x silverstream #gamzee x tavros #kuroko x kagami

[birdsong-warriors]

I think the problem with Millie x Greystripe x Silverstream comes from the fact that Greystripe and Silverstream are suppose to be related when they're in a poly relationship with Millie. I could be wrong but as far as i understand, poly relationships don't work as in just "Person x dates both person y and person z", everyone in a poly relationship is romantically involved with eachother. As such, if they're both in a poly relationship Millie, Greystripe and Silverstream would be also romantically involved with eachother. If you want to have it as Millie being mates with both Greystripe and Silverstream, yet these two aren't romantically involved i feel like that would be more of an open relationship rather than polyamorous. Again, i could be wrong here but i'm really just trying to help. I don't think you had any bad intentions with the Millie x Greystripe x Silverstream pairing and i hope you're able ro write them nicely with the time you have in hands and more research on the topic.

GOSH HECKIN' THANK YOU SO SO MUCH FOR WRITING ME AN ACTUAL DETAILED CRITIQUE I COULD SERIOUSLY CRY THANK YOU SO MUCH.

Now that someone has fully explained the concern, I can address it properly! ;v; So far as my research has found and from feedback from people in polyamorous relationships, there are situations called "V Polycules" (gosh please, polyamorous people, correct me if I have my terms wrong, I've gotten some conflicting information on the term "polycules" while doing my research) that describe, well, a V shaped romance where two individuals both date one person without dating each other and there is open communication between everyone. I think whether or not it falls into the category of a polyamorous relationship seems to be up to whoever is involved? So you're probably absolutely right in that I've just been using the wrong terminology! :'D Gray, Silver and Millie probably wouldn't call it as such either, but it will never be specifically addressed anyway, simply hinted at.

Thank you so so much for taking the time to give this in depth feedback!! ;v;

#you are an amazing anon who is making me reconsider turning off anon lol!! #i think i will leave it open and simply delete messages that leave only negative words with no real explanation on how I can do it better #idk #honestly with how buried i am in asks anyway i should not be giving priority to those kind of messages anyway #ah well i am learning i think!! :D #thank you guys so much #silver x millie x gray #silverstream x millie x graystripe

[vulpine-poltergeist]

rules: tag 9 people you want to know better

tagged by @nalver and @emo-and-dumb

favourite colour: Brown!

currently reading: So much fanfic. Here’s my favorite ones! Brighter Fires | Love What Is Mortal | Fair Winds (Twisted Tree AU) | Project N: Unexpected Results

last song: Stutter by Mariana’s Trench

last film: Encanto!

currently watching: Bleach

last series: See above tbh

three ships: Time for controversy! Barley x Ravenpaw x Silverstream, Jericho Swain x Beatrice/Raum (yes, the bird demon), Lysandre from Pokemon x Romeo from Minecraft Story Mode (this one is a pet crackship)

first ever ship: Graypaw x Firepaw / Greystripe x Firestar

currently working on: Like, fuckall, man.

tagging: @shrimpmandan , @ruimtetijd , @t0xicgr33nz , @tiredofmygrief , @youthinkofacoolname , @ahe-bby , @axolotlsstuff , @mla-citation

#tag game

[mallowstep]

What are your opinions on forbidden relationships in Warriors? I've seen people label it as a "trope" because of how common this is. Some find the forbidden romance aspect intriguing, though others find it extremely repetitive and old

I'd like to know your thoughts!

hm. well, it is a trope. i mean, there's an average of one major one a series, right? greysilver, leafcrow (and others, but that's the big one), heatherlion (and implied others), tigerdove, idk i don't remember anything from avos but violetshine luv her but there's probably something, bristleroot. dotc doesn't count bc well it's dotc.

anyway.

definitely a trope.

but that's not a bad thing.

what i think people don't give warriors enough credit for is that these are not all the same forbidden romance. most of them are handled in different ways and bring up different conflicts. i understand why people are tired of them, but let's not discredit one of the only good things in warriors romance: that they make forbidden relationships different.

like, with grey and silver, it's about loyalty and responsibility. leafcrow is just bad idea central, both heatherlion and tigerdove are about responsibilities and young cats, and they have two different answers, and bristleroot is challenging the whole idea from the start.

so like. give credit where credit is due: we're not doing the same (forbidden) relationships again and again. i don't see enough people talk about that.

okay so it turns out i have um. a lot of thoughts about this. idk i just kept writing and now it's over 2k words. so you know. under the cut: matthew does half-baked media analysis to talk about why the code and cats' relationships to it are misunderstood. while actually staying on topic.

anyway from here on i'm just going to say relationship/romance, and understand that i'm generally talking about the forbidden kind. also i'm talking exclusively within the realm of warriors romance, which is, on average, bad. so when i say "X is good," i don't mean "X is good in general," i mean "given what we have, X is good." just to be clear.

right! basically, this is a tool. it creates tension and drama, and that's fine. warriors is a soap opera, remember. soap operas use secrets and relationships and all sorts of plot devices over and over again. warriors is not Serious. it can be dark. it has serious moments. but it is not a Serious Book Series for Serious Kids. it is a soap opera for Future Theatre Kids. yeah?

from that perspective, i'm a-ok with forbidden romance. (also, as a mini-aside, it creates some much-needed genetic diversity when kits are involved.) and again: all of the major relationships are different, so i think that's better than a lot of people give it credit for.

yeah, heatherlion and greysilver and tigerdove are all about the same general idea (loyalty and responsibility), but they all have different circumstances and different resolutions.

so like? yeah. sure. why not?

plus, like, who's reading warriors for the romance? i separate the concept of "romance" from a "relationship" here: i like the relationships in warriors (ivy and dove tension my beloved), but i'm not here to read about tigerheart wooing dovewing. (yes, i do love the tigerdove scenes in oots. no, that's not because i think they're very good at being romantic.)

but i digress.

if warriors was a Serious Book Series for Serious Kids, i'd have a different take here. having been in an IRL forbidden relationship, i have the Personal Insight and Experience to say they're this weird mash of "very much how it feels" and "not at all how it feels."

tigerdove is probably my favourite bc it's the closest to my circumstances, and i think dovewing is a good pov. i like how she breaks up with him because it's a bad idea, but that's not the same thing as not feeling for him.

(heh. twelve-year-old me reading oots like "this will never apply to my life" what did you know)

but to the point, if warriors was serious, i'd point out that the consequences always seem to be internal. we haven't seen characters be punished for their actions. and so on.

but warriors is a soap opera.

and here's my actual thesis: we haven't seen characters be punished for their actions, because "forbidden relationships" are a normal and expected part of clan society.

like no, fandom-at-large, you're kind of missing the point. okay, you know how like. people complain about. idk. ivypool and fernsong being distantly related?

(third aside/very long ivyfern rant, i put a nice big "rant over" after it if you want to skip past it: they're third cousins. they share, max, 2.2% of their genetics. they are fine. do you know your third cousins? do you? yeah. and like. they live in a closed society. there is no one new.

i've never seen someone complain about forbidden romance and ivyfern at the same time, and i do generally agree we should have more mystery fathers, altho for a different reason, but like. idk. this bothers me.

their last shared relative was nutmeg. that's so far back. god. i get it, there was a prophecy saying they're related, but if you remember my rant about how dovewing shouldn't be a part of the prophecy because of how distantly related to firestar is, you know how i feel about that already.

complaining they're related and that's a problem is. deep breath here. it requires demonstrating that warriors has kept track of kinship all the way back to firestar's mother. and even if you wave that requirement, you still have to convince me they would care about that. this isn't a "they're cats, harold" situation, this is a "you would not know your third cousin even if you lived in the same town" situation.

i mean maybe you would. some people do. but my hometown has generations of people who married within its borders. you get as far as "cousin," maybe "second cousin" if you're feeling fancy. i'm not trying to make an always true statement, i just. every time i see someone complain about ivyfern being related, it strikes me as not understanding how extended families work?

i know third cousins isn't technically classified as a distant relative, but you have, on average, 190 third cousins. i feel so strongly about this i looked it up.

like i'm not. okay if you say, "I don't ship ivyfern because they are third cousins and that makes me uncomfortable" you are Valid. in general, you are all valid. i do not think you have to, on a personal level, be okay with ivyfern. you are free to do as you wish.

but. if you want to argue "ivyfern is a Bad Ship because they are third cousins" you have a hell of a burden of proof. simply saying "they share a great-great-grandmother" does not meet that, because like. yeah. we're all pretty damn related.)

(ivyfern rant over)

IVYFERN RANT OVER

right so. anyway. if you remove forbidden romance? you're forcing a lot more of those situations.

i've been messing around with modelling some small-scale fan clan-adjacent stuff to double-check the ratios for wbcd, and it's. it quickly becomes a necessity, is what i'm saying.

but i got distracted like. researching how related third cousins are. my point is not about that, that's like. a different topic. that i crammed into here because i have no self-control.

no, no, what i was trying to get to is: oakheart straight up tells us that cats have half-clan kits all the time, it's not a problem, no one talks about it. and that? that is exactly what we see modelled by warriors.

the only reason greystripe and silverstream have a problem is that silverstream dies and greystripe claims the kits. i feel very strongly that if she had lived, the kits would have been born and raised riverclan kits, that might, maybe, one day, guess who their father is.

we haven't had any half clan kits in a while, which yes! i think is a problem, but like. the fact that the three are medicine cat kits seems to be a bigger issue. which feels right.

and i'm not trying to argue what i think should be, i legitimately believe the text of warriors defends this, even in newer books which throw out a lot of the older world building in favour of more human-like conflict.

as readers, we are naturally following protagonists. we are following the interesting story. but imagine you're just a background riverclan cat. minnowtail, if you will. do you think, do you honestly think, anyone cares about minnowtail?

not in a bad way, just. if she's meeting up with mousewhisker at night, do you think anyone cares? of course not! no one cares. she's not a Protagonist. her kits aren't going to be prophesized about.

heck, finleap switches clans! and it's barely a big deal. it feels like one, but when's the last time anyone bothered dealing with it? that's what i thought.

(also i forgot like all of avos so that very last point might be a bad one if it is my argument stands i just literally do not remember anything in avos but violetshine. none. zero.)

but it's easy to get caught up with characters like hollyleaf and bristlefrost and forget that like. not everyone cares about the code. most of our protagonists do, because it's become mostly equivalent with being moral. and i have an essay draft titled "the code as religion vs the code as law" where i want to expand on this more, but i think like. that idea, that we as readers should use the code as a way of evaluating cats' behaviour, is flawed.

like, i'm not talking about being inconsistent with how that is applied. if you want to say, "the trial leafpool goes through for having half-clan kits is legitimate because of the code," i still think your approach is flawed.

because the cats themselves don't seem to think that way.

the code doesn't, to me, feel like the ten commandments. it does not feel like "you must do this to be a good cat."

rather, it feels like aesop's parables. "here are mistakes cats made and what we do instead of that."

i don't think the cats know the code the way we do. i do not think they memorize a list of rules as kits. i think they know what is and is not part of it, but i imagine they know the stories far more than the rules.

(i'm working on my lore stories to replace code of the clans.)

and even if that's my thoughts, i do think this is supported by the text. no one ever teaches the warrior code, cats just learn it in pieces. "don't waste food because we don't have enough to spare" is taught, not "there's a rule about food and starclan on the code."

that's why the whole arc of the broken code even works: the reason the imposter is able to manipulate things is because cats don't treat the code as a rigid set of rules and commandments, but guiding principles.

the parts of the code that we tend to focus on the most are relationships, apprentices, and battle. or that's my perception. i didn't do a poll to obtain that. there's also the leader's word, but readers don't usually think of that as a good rule, so i'm not including it.

but the parts the cats focus on most are food, territory, and the leader's word. which makes sense: those are basic needs: food, security, and...i don't want to say authority so much as some kind of social system. explaining it would be a whole thing. just trust with me, if you don't mind.

i don't think we have any real reason to believe cats care about half-clan relationships half as much as we do. yes, apprentices are chastized about it, but that's not really the same thing as being punished.

and it's hard to tell, because apprentices being punished has really fallen off, and that's kind of the problem with any argument i try to make about warriors, but.

wow.

i'm actually still on topic? i'm 2k words in and i'm still on topic? a day i never thought would come.

let's wrap this up. cats seem to care about half clan relationships in that: a) they lead to conflicted loyalties, b) they mess with borders and prey, and c) they are in the code as bad. in that order.

and again, if the code was some high and holy religious doctrine, we couldn't have the broken code as an arc. it does not work if the cats are already following it to a t, and know it word for word, because it's signfiicantly harder to manipulate people if they do.

not to the level the imposter does, at the speed he does.

and yes, you could argue that it's more bad writing, but. i think that discredits warriors. yeah, it sure has its fair share of bad writing, but i don't think that's in the way the imposter works. instead, he seizes on a big important doctrine that's nebulous, and uses that to control people.

and that? that feels much more interesting.

so with that in mind, i don't think the cats would care about your typical, non-protagonist forbidden relationship, and i don't think we should, either.

as far as a plot device, i think we're okay with what we have. don't get me wrong, i understand why people are tired of it, but i think we also should remember that warriors is not repeating itself. having multiple forbidden relationships is not repetitive. now, if medicine cats were having half-clan kits every series, i'd make a different argument.

but all of the major forbidden relationships have different outcomes, lessons, and circumstances, and for me, i think that's signficantly interesting.

i didn't really check sources and quotes for this, so like, if you spotted something wrong, feel free to correct me. my overall point stands, but there's a lot of warriors and i have a bad memory, so i could have missed somthing major.

#ask #anon #essay #mine #discourse #not really but you know

[xxmoonshine2xx]

Greystripe x Silverstream!

Their kits:

+ Stormfur + Feathertail

[skyyclan]

So, I know there are a lot of people who really liked Greystripe x Silverstream, but narratively I feel it's just a *touch* out of place. Yes, Riverclan did end up joining Tigerclan to tie it into that plot, but I feel other than that, there were two better options:

Have Greystripe get into a Windclan relationship, or get into a Shadowclan relationship. Either could work so long as a few tweaks are added to the series:

Shadowclan's child soldier thing being much more of a problem, have them have *many* more kids than they did, taken from wherever they can get them. Maybe they stole some more from Windclan when they drove them out, and that could include Greystripe forbidden romance kids (or have them born into Shadowclan in the first place), and maybe they stole from Bloodclan too. And make Tigerstar keep the child soldier thing, he needs more things that make him bad as he honestly wasn't as evil as Brokenstar in regards to all he did. Yeah he took over Riverclan and tried to kill four halfclan cats, but other than that... he didn't do much else that major?

This would give more tension in the relationship, give Fireheart more of a reason to be mad about the relationship in the "you had kits with a SHADOWCLAN cat?? After all they've DONE???" or maybe Greystripe disappeared to join Windclan when they were driven out and Fireheart sees that as him fully abandoning Thunderclan and him.

And have the kit rescue mission involve more than his kits, maybe include Gorsepaw *here*, give us more insight on cats like Littlecloud, and cats like Ratscar who were stolen from Windclan, and give us insight on possible stolen Bloodclan kits.

And then when Bloodclan does 'help' Tigerstar only to betray and kill him? It gives him motive other than "uhhh we want the forest territories", make it "you are wild, dangerous creatures that should be exterminated to keep our future generations safe from your monstrous ways". THEN parallel how Scourge's way of caring is to kill innocent cats 'just in case', and maybe kill Gorsepaw here by him as an example instead of him dying to Tigerstar, or maybe almost kill Greystripe's kits (OOOO Gorsepaw being one of his kits??)?. Show that his battle tactics are much more monstrous than the clan cats' even though he claims to be better, kinder, and fairer. Make that revenge nasty, even if its righteous, and put Firestar in a tougher situation where he *sympathises* with the revenge at first and have him betrayed as well as the revenge just keeps going and getting more brutal.

#warrior cats #text post #thoughts #so those are my thoughts for the week #i got a little sidetracked but whatever thoughts are thoughts #i dont remember my other tags for these ramblings