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makoandharu · 3 years

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MakoHaru is the best ship and I would be very sad if they don't end up together. Some rumors said that the movies will be too much RinHaru :-(

I want them all to be happy but Makoto deserves his happines so much.

+++ I'm always saying this but I love your blog 🥺 have a nice day/night.

Don't think that's an unpopular opinion p sure at the height of the free fandom mh was the biggest ship on this hellsite 😂😂😂

But i agree somewhat (like yes makoharu is the best ship lmao, in any fandom ever, i think their dynamic is so interesting and soothing they literally make my heart go brrrrrr) BUT for a few reasons I've never been one to get annoyed at rh scenes even tho nothing gives me the ick like rh does.

Firstly bc this is the sports anime, they are the main characters, their rivalry is important, this is the "final battle" if they're going to the Olympics or whatever, it would make no sense for it not be about Rin and Haru.

Secondly, i think we really have so much mh content, that I'm honestly not fussed at all. Like this is the first rh centric movie and it'll probably be also focusing on Ikuya too? We have starting days, timeless medley, tym ep1, all of bloody s3 of them just being married with almost no rh interactions (which ngl is confusing like they're your mc's watchya doing kyoani), so like as much as i dislike the ship myself, let the rhs have this it's cool

Thirdly, as much as i do not like shippy rh, i think Rin and Haru's friendship is so interesting and important and lovely, and i love seeing them interact!! To me they're that sibling definition of "I'd give u my kidney but not my chocolate" They're so ride or die when it comes to big things, but so snappy and irritated about insignificant things; their bickering is so funny and i love how stupidly fond they are of each other but they'll be damned if they admit it bc siblings are just Like That.

Lastly i think every time there's been rh interactions explicitly after anything big mh-y happens, i think it's always shown how different Rin and Makoto are with Haru, and clearly how much more comfortable and understood and loved Haru feels with Makoto. S2Ep12 and the mooks are the main ones that come to mind. The episode has a whole montage of Haru being uncomfortable whilst being out with Rin, bc he doesn't understand Haru's needs; the rh mook is much of the same, with Rin taking Haru (against his will) to see sights he's never see before and Haru being unimpressed and unhappy. So like. Even if there's parallels I'm sure (i pray) they keep with this trend of showing that Rin doesn't ~get~ Haru the way Makoto does

I say this obviously without the knowledge of hindsight bc if KyoAni decide to throw all of this in the bin, disregard the whole "Rin is not Haru's other half, regarding that Makoto comes to mind" and "it's like your hearts are connected" and "Rin and Haru wouldn't even be friends if they both didn't swim" and Haru literally dying for Makoto, and Makoto literally telling Haru he loves him etc etc etc. If they ignore all that for some bs rh nonsense then i want you to disregard everything i just said bc i will absolutely be throwing hands

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renamusing · 7 years

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in the folder re: konhiji like we’re not told how old toshi was when he met kondo but probably a teenager considerin sougo was 6-8 so i always thought toshi’d place kondo in a place similar to tamegoro but misunderstand those feelins as smth else bc he’s just a baby + kondou’s the first to show him real (or any) affection outside tamegoro n not fear or resent him in any way but actually want to help him (he later in life realizes hed just misplaced/misunderstood their

nature). from that same era, i think his feelins for mitsuba would fit a similar narrative as in bc of circumstances she HAD to be the woman he loved bc all men must love a woman plus she had feelins for him (tho tbh i also dont think hers were any different from the familial love she had for kondou and it was also a matter of circumstance but thats another matter) so it was a done deal but still easy to leave behind for a new life n have as backup/excuse for any other

woman hed meet or more like a shield from havin to open up w/unravel to any feelins of love of a non familial nature for anyone. his take on love is rly naive n pure (contrasted to ofc my baby whos smart n no fool) bc it also serves as shield n hes also said to be unable to relate/open up to women multiple times but is defenseless towards men (n sorachi loves that trope esp w toshi n gin chan in which theyre ‘men that are more attractive to other men than women’) which

i think is why hes so well defenseless towards gin chan durin their duel in the rooftops like for gin chan thats just a ‘crazy cop attacked me again’ moment but for toshi it like shakes the foundations of his whole bein he like lies there all wistful like wtf…..im gay? no… w a blossomin crush that only gets worse the more he interacts w gin chan (cant blame him tho gin chan is an angel) but like the way hes constructed specifically as an archetype hes too set in

performin masculinity (kyuchan says this but he also says this abt himself also multiple times) n sorachi is aware to an extent (plus hes drawin from men who were practicin mlm themselves) what this trope entails wrt sexuality n its expressions like for toshi its comfortable not to think abt love or any of that bc he has a goal n the excuse of a dead woman but its impossible to read him as anythin but not straight no matter the degree to which he is aware of it (which

tbh i think its a lot more than what ppl in fandom give him credit for) i have more detailed backed up analysis of this somewhere but i cant find them but basically at the end of the day i think toshi meetin kondo n at least havin some mixed up feelins abt what he feels towards him that hes able to resolve as bein brotherly later on in life set the path for him realizin he can love other men not in a brotherly way n in the way he (as a man) is supposed to love women

wow long but yes like toshi’s archetype in other manga/literature is easily read n can be coded as mlm/gay n is often the case but his issues run too deep for him to even consider that part seriously (at least tbh until 551 maybe baragaki but i dont think that early) so he has to suffer for it he deserves the worst the only reason gh is okay is bc he provides economically for gin chan n would be willin to pay any outstandin debts as shown in the soul switch arc. the end

i feel like this was just a sneak peek into that folder, but I loved it 200%! it’s super hard for me to reply without going into my own headcanons about gh and how they relate to one another, cause the way toshi relates to gin is so different from kondo in my perspective; in fact, it’s why i can’t get romantic konhiji at all, though i admit you make a fair point when u address the transition of toshi’s “most important person” from tamegoro to kondo (at that young age mixed feelings would be acceptable) plus, i always saw kondo as the character that ‘saved’ toshi, while gin was the one that ‘healed’ him. ofc both relationships go way beyond these dynamics, but without any actual canon romantic proof it’s difficult to postulate from toshi’s limited pov.

so, while the shinsengumi became his substitute family and kondo tamegoro’s substitute (the family core), it’s a given that toshi perceives this love as unconditional, would-die-for etc. however, it would be interesting to explore his feelings for kondo back then in relation to mitsuba; like in an effort to answer the love of a woman (as you so brilliantly put, that in those circumstances toshi HAD to love a woman) he tried to shift his romantic feelings/attraction to kondo’s masculine figure to her ? (IM ONLY REALIZING NOW THAT THIS WAS PROBABLY WHAT YOU MEANT BEFORE? IM SORRY) tho i don’t agree that mitsuba’s love for him was familial cause ponytail toshi, mack, like pls, she had to be blind ???

then we come to ginchan, whose whole relationship with toshi is based, imo, in the fact that they not only see a part of themselves in each other (the guilty, self-hating, rebel part) but that in seeing it they understand themselves better and are able to open up, share their experiences and encourage one another; not to mention protect what’s dear to them. aka they love each other. there is literally no other explanation for ginchan waiting in the rain for toshi so they could go out for a meal? i mean, sakata gintoki sat in the rain, under his umbrella, looking all complacent & shit. ALRIGHT.

btw i bolded some of your bits cause i rly relate to them in the way i see toshi, especially the ones about him putting up a shield. toshi has always had problems dealing with his feelings, even before we knew of his past with his brother (which for continuity’s sake was probably what triggered him to bottle everything up), he had always been written/regarded as a cold, level-headed character who doesn’t let emotions get the best of him. his rank in the shinsengumi further emphasizing this (and his otaku persona as well). so, without disregarding ginchan’s merits, i think that kondo’s influence (and even mitsuba’s to some extent) may have contributed to lowering toshi’s shield enough that he was able to give himself a chance to connect with someone outside his comfort zone/past. the fact that that person happened to be a man only makes more sense given his background and the hints that tell us he was never able to relate to women or feel like he could make them happy. it’s Tough on my heart to say that ginchan is basically ideal because, even though he is the mc, it’s like he was made to play that role in toshi’s life. he doesn’t bring all the answers but rather more questions cause there’s no way toshi can be confused now because his attraction to ginchan cant be excused with the role of ‘brother’ or ‘fated woman he was supposed to love’, gh bond is their own, their closeness in canon SHOULD raise suspicion cause it sure doesn’t seem straight.

well, i digressed WAY more than i should, but yeah that’s it, kudos on that folder.

#reuenthals #lost my track a couple of times #\sigh

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