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dalishious · 26 days
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Reclaiming Independence of the Dales
Before anything else, I’d just like to clarify that that vast majority of this is made of my own ideas, based on interpretation from the little canonical information provided, and a little inspired by my own people’s history and governing structure. Additionally, what I am presenting here is an ideal situation, not necessarily what I think is an immediately realistic outcome in the world-state established. So, please keep that in mind.
The Dales were established as a homeland for elves—a small piece of a continent that was once called their home in its entirety, before the humans colonized it—by Maferath in -165 Ancient. This was in reward for the eleven people’s participation in the fight against Ancient Tevinter. But in 2:10 Glory, Divine Renata I broke this treaty and declared an Exalted March against the Dales, ending in its annexation by Orlais.
[Related Post: All You Need to Know about the Exalted March of the Dales]
If Solas has very low approval with Inquisitor Lavellan, and Lavellan accuses him of not doing enough to help their people, he will say the following: “You could order Halamshiral returned to the Dalish, if you wished. But ultimately, you know that would fail. That even you cannot solve this.” I hate this with a burning passion. The reason I can’t do that, Solas, is because it’s not an option in the game! Why are you as a character angry at me, the player, for not doing something that is not an option for me to do? Why was this written? Just to push the point that it’s not worth it to try and fight back against oppression? Because if I refuse to accept hopelessness in real life, why would I in accept it in a video game where the story is made-up, and therefore anything is possible if the developers so wish it.
Regardless, according to Solas, the Inquisition has enough power to support the reclamation of an independent Dales. I imagine this would require a lot of political maneuvering within the Orlesian governance, and therefore I think the best opportunity to do this would be with Briala ruling through Gaspard. This would then later open the door for Briala to be the leader of the newly independent Dales, too. I would like to see Briala as ruler of the Dales not just because she is a favourite of mine, but because I genuinely believe she is the best established character fit for the job. She was trained in everything Celene was trained in, has first-hand experience in court, has extensive connections, and has demonstrated her ability and desire to utilize these skills and assets for the benefit of elven kind.
Briala’s blackmail on Gaspard may help prevent Orlais from invading again while under his rule, but to last longer, the Dales would need to establish itself as a strong, independent Nation with allies. This is why I believe it would also be important to have Leliana as Divine Victoria in such a world-state where this could happen. Leliana re-canonizes the Canticle of Shartan, and in making it available for the common person to understand, would ideally help sway the minds of the average Andrastian into supporting the Dales’s independence. The nobility would of course be much trickier, because they and the Chantry are the ones who actually benefitted from its annexation—but there is little they would be able to actually accomplish if they did not have the power of the people behind them.
As far as allies go, Ferelden could only gain from Orlais losing control of the Dales, because it would mean cutting Orlais off from a lot of Ferelden’s border, therefore reducing the threat of another invasion. Additionally, a leader with just plain good morals like say, Alistair, would easily accept the elven kingdom’s return. But even Anora is willing to grant part of the Korcari Wilds to the Dalish if Mahariel requests it, and while this sadly doesn’t last, it does show a positive sign into her potentially being open to the idea of an independent Dales as well.
I sincerely doubt that all Dalish clans would return to the Dales and re-settle down. After all, they have developed differentiating cultures over the years of wandering in separated groups, with different ideals and different ways of life that they might not want to give up. But many would return, and that would likely create conflict between the elves coming from the Dalish clans and the elves coming from the cities. We know that some prejudice exists against “flat-ears” as some Dalish call those from the city, and we know that city elves have adopted a lot of misinformation from humans into their views of the Dalish. It would take time and positive leadership to reconnect the people, without risking falling into some sort of hierarchy based on origin. This is why I do not believe one group or the other should single-handedly rule alone. Rather, I think there should be a Grand Council of High Keepers made up of those voted into the position each to represent a single district of the Dales. (I like the idea of there being seven High Keepers, not just because there are seven traditional districts of Mi’kma’ki, but because it works out that there seven of the Creators. So it makes sense that there would be seven High Keepers.) The Grand Council would meet and make decisions together, with one appointed leader at the head to act as the Council’s chair.
In terms of protection and order, the Emerald Knights should be reformed. This would include the Fade Hunters, to protect the people against demons and maleficarum, with there being no Circles or Templars.
Restoring the independence of the Dales would lead to a revival of elven culture in ways that could never happen before, because they would actually be free to pursue re-learning the language, re-discovering the history and culture, and sharing it all amongst each other. They would not have to fear arrest the crime of simply being an elf.  
But what of the other races presently living in the Dales? I see no reason why they would have to leave, so long as they would be willing to follow the Grand Council’s leadership. I imagine many nobility would flee to Orlais, simply because they would not stand for it. But for the average human or surface dwarf, their life wouldn’t really even change much; they’d still be managing their farms the same as always. Hell, it might even improve things for them, assuming the Grand Council gives fairer treatment than the nobility previously.
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dragonagecompanions · 8 months
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Why do you think Varric made the Inquisitor a Comte? Wouldn’t that make them outrank him? Dumar seemed pretty powerless and I always thought that Varric got shoved in the rule to make him in charge of the recovery of Kirkwall but not actually of Kirkwall?
Sweet gentle anon, I know it was not your intention but you have stumbled into one of my favorite conversational topics and I hope you are ready for the fall out.
Welcome, children, to Fereldone talks about Thedas' Geo/Theopolitical bullshit!
(tl:dr at the bottom)
So, very important things to know going in: Kirkwall's political history is weird. Founded by the Tevinter Imperium in -620 Ancient (which is DA equivalent of BC/BCE, or the time before the ages ascribed to history by the chantry), it was a mining city. After a slave tried to kill the Archon the Magisterium decided they needed to start importing- and presumably breaking the will of- slaves farther from the heart of the imperium and thus the City of Chains gained purpose.
I could throw a lot of facts and names at you, but here's the basics-- it housed millions of slaves over hundreds of years, at the end of the ancient age they rebelled and overthrew it. Kirk means black in Alamarri, the stone they mined there was jet black, and so Kirkwall (black walls) becomes a Free city. It suffered during the fourth blight in the Exalted Age (fifth age, for those keeping score at home), was conquered by the Qunari in the Storm Age (seventh age) and was then conquered by the Orlesians. Orlais was on a roll with the whole 'we own everything whoops killed your ancestral leaders', but in the Blessed age (eighth age) the people retaliate and overthrow the empire to regain independence.
For reasons I can only assume are laziness and a desire not to change all the paperwork, the leader of Kirkwall is still referred to by the Orlesian word Viscount/Viscomte. Bear with me, this is important later.
We are now in the early dragon age (9th age, and when Inquisition happens). The first two rulers of free Kirkwall sucked. Basically they blockaded their own port and made people pay a fortune to get in and trade. This didn't sit well with the Chantry, who would much rather do that themselves, and in 9:14 Divine Beatrix II (later saved by Cassandra!) tells the Templars to strong arm him into submission talk some sense into the viscount.
The knight commander is killed in the exchange, and so his second command Meredith Stannard steps up to try her hand at negotiations. It goes poorly, so she arrests and jails the Viscount and essentially takes control of the city with full Chantry approval. Now the Templars are essentially in control of the city, and so they appoint a puppet leader (Dumar) to play act in control. But Meredith is actually in charge, and everyone knows it.
Including Elthina, who named her Knight Commander. This is why the Chantry never actually does anything about templar abuses.
So! If you are still with me, this is where Viscount becomes important. There are some wibbly bits about how you treat Sebastian Vael in DA2, but essentially Kirkwall decides that it's time to be an actual city state and not a poorly run Theocracy. As the only man with a plan (and the money and influence to do it), Varric steps in to help his home town. Ecstatic at not being responsible for that, the nobles (comtes) band together and put him in charge.
So while yes, in Orlais Viscount be beneath comte, Kirkwall has been so broken up and conquered and messed with over the years that names and titles are meaningless. In my personal opinion, Varric ennobles the inquisitor so that they will always have a staunch ally amongst the backbiting Kirkwaller nobles. It's also a nice and generous a decent thing to do, of course, but Varric is very good at making something do a lot of things for him all at once.
(Also, Varric knows exactly what that key does. He just ensured that someone smart enough and invested enough in peace will always be able to either open or close the harbor--making sure that the people who depend on him will be safe no matter what.)
Personally, the Trespasser epilouge is useless. It's the result of not having a head writer to review things, and the sweet but misguided attempt to give us closure if DA4 never happened. Hawke doesn't come back to Kirkwall. They are in Weisshaupt (if not in the Fade), and that plotIine will likely be in the final game. The Inquisition in whatever form it still has will be heading north, possibly with Kirkwall as an operating base, and this way the Inquisitor (who is confirmed to not be playabe in DA4) will have a reason to be there and not in Tevinter.
That's my read, anyway.
tl;dr Kirkwall has weird history that led to odd ways of organizing their nobility, Varric wants friends in places almost as high as him, shit's going down in the north and I think the inquisitor will be in Kirkwall so the writers needed a reason to put them there.
Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
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high-dragon-bait · 2 years
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The thing about Hawke being champion of Kirkwall is... They have to be getting marriage proposals literally constantly. Some in person, but most in the mail, letters from families both in and out of Kirkwall asking for Hawke to marry either them or their heir. Hawke has never once given any of these families indication that they would WANT to marry into them, but that doesn’t stop them from trying
And if Hawke was involved with one of their companions, even married to them instead, these proposals wouldn’t stop. They’d be involved with/married to an elf, an apostate, an elven apostate, or a pirate, none of which nobility would consider “legitimate” matches.
So uh, here’s how I think Hawke’s potential LIs would respond to seeing one of these proposal letters
- Merrill insists on writing back to them herself, which Hawke is skeptical of, explaining that they don’t need to send back a response, the silence is a response in and of itself. But Merrill is very presistant “Oh, but ma vhenan it’s only polite. They took the time to write the letter, we should say something :)” and Hawke is finally like sure. What’s the harm. Go nuts. So she does! She spends hours dilegently replying to each one, and Hawke sends them out without looking at them cause they promised, y’know? Then... the letters start coming a bit more slowly, and then... not at all. Which Hawke doesn’t mind but they do wonder. They ask one day, and Merrill says she just thanked them for reaching out but that Hawke was not interested, and a “few other things.” She never said the nature of the “few other things.” One of the noble families fled their mansion in terror a week later.
- Anders burns the first one he finds, kind of impulsively, he finds himself being more annoyed that he’s being so blatantly ignored by these people than he would’ve expected. He’s a bit... embarrassed about it honestly. He somewhat sheepishly admits to Hawke he found a proposal letter and burnt it before Hawke could read it. Hawke is not annoyed by it like Anders is, Hawke is FURIOUS that Anders is being so disrespected by these rich bastards. FURIOUS. To the point that Anders has to be the one to calm them down. Anders is given free reign to burn any letters that come after, which is kind of a middle ground because Hawke wanted to go burn down their houses, so y’know. Compromises!
- Isabela straight up catfishes them. But Isabela knows how this “arranged marriages” business works, especially fancy noble arranged marriages, and that’s dowries. So, so many dowries. She scams at least twelve noble families out of hundreds of sovereigns. No. Hawke has no idea. They don’t find out until there’s almost a diplomatic incident between Kirkwall and some Orlesian family cause they sent a dowry of 800 sovereigns and Hawke never showed up to the wedding and they were sending threats. Only then does Isabela fess up. Hawke thinks this is hilarious but also doesn’t want to fight off Orlais clown assassins forever and asks Isabela to stop. Varric is so impressed by how well Isabela writes as Hawke he asks her to help on his book.
- Fenris... doesn’t care. Like. I’ve been sitting here thinking of some sort of funny story but there is just not a reality where Fenris cares. What? You think he feels threatened by Lord Tantervale Chantryman sending a betrothal letter to Hawke? No, if anything he uses them to practice reading because they’re wonderfully entertaining. Hawke hears muffled laughter from the library one day and finds Fenris reading a betrothal letter with a Starkhaven seal on it and they just... keep walking.
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cityandking · 23 days
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thanks!! I'll do this for both my inquisitors // questions for your inquisitor
4: Alliance with the Mages or the Templars? Explain why.
VESPER — conscripted the templars. as she understood things, they needed something to stop the breech but they also needed some way to stop the fighting, and in her eyes the fighting was the greater danger. conscript the templars and suddenly the inquisition has the men and forces to pause the conflict, to take stock, to see the mages safely out of redcliffe. funny thing about fighting someone with time magic: even before you begin, you're too late NARAYANI — allied with the mages. fiona came personally to val royeaux to ask her to come to redcliffe, and narayani has always been sensitive to the plight of other people the chantry sees as lesser. she's a big mage's rights activist in that specific way of people who don't know what it's like in the circles. and no way in hell was she going to make them bend the knee, so alliance it was. (the way the inner circle reacted to that choice didn't endear her to most of them).
18: What does your Inquisitor think about “the Game”? Would they participate in it? Did they enjoy the time at the Winter Palace?
VESPER — her mother was orlesian and her eldest sister married an orlesian so she had some understanding of the viper's nest of orlesian politics. she despises it, but once you get past the murder and whatnot it's alarmingly similar to navigating the college factions in the circles, which is a comparison she's sure would have plenty turning in their graves. still, she has no desire to participate in the game and did not enjoy being at the winter palace, feeling like a bug under a hundred spyglasses NARAYANI — hates it. hates the game hates the shem hates the pretense hates how openly they despise her. but their fear is useful, and if playing well can position her to make use of their fear and their power and their doubt, then she'll grit her teeth and bear the insults and play the long game to crush them under her heel.
22: Which person did they involve themselves with and what drew them to that particular person? Did they go through a change of heart or did they remain at the person’s side?
VESPER — cullen! it was an incredibly slow burn of restrained coworkership to tired camaraderie to mutual respect to liking to trust to friendship to understanding to support to more. vesper liked his sense of humor and how much he cared about people and how hard he tried to do and be better. they took a long time to figure their stuff out (idc about canon timelines; in vesper's worldstate it takes at least 2 years to get through the main game) but they were solidly in each other's corner by the time they put a label on their relationship and really went for it NARAYANI — solas. at first it was just enjoying the company of someone she felt she could speak to without judgement. and she liked his stories—she's always been the sort to fly far from the fold and he had the same curiosity about the world. she liked his sense of humor too, and the sly observation's he'd make about their companions—it felt a little like being in on a joke, all the time. and he clearly liked her back; he could hardly hide it. she didn't realize how far in they were until it was much too late, but she liked how deep they were, how much he cared, how much he wanted—enough to overcome his own wariness. it felt so so nice to be wanted for herself in the middle of a world that wanted her to be someone—something—else. she'd have stuck with him through anything. if she finds him again.... well, jury's out. she still might. hard to say what she'll have left in the world that's worth saving. she doesn't get with anyone else after the breakup
45: Herb Garden or Chantry Garden? Templar Tower or Mage Tower? Infirmary or Practice Ground?
VESPER — herb garden, mage tower, infirmary NARAYANI — herb garden, mage tower, practice ground
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v-arbellanaris · 1 year
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What are your thoughts on Warden-Commander Clarel, if you have any to share?
sooo, basically what i know about her is that she's the one who conscripted stroud into the grey wardens. she's also one of the grey wardens that was supposed to come to ferelden to aid during the blight, but loghain closed up the borders and turned them away (with a message to celene that evidently pissed her off LMAO).
personally, i quite like her. i think she's admirable - she's upset she wasn't allowed to come and help during the blight, but it doesn't seem to be out of a sense of a need for glory. in particular, this codex entry endears her to me the most. (i also find the implications really interesting in terms of teagan -- he doesn't seem to necessarily disagree with loghain on his stance on the orlesian wardens (unlike eamon, i think), and his stance on mages is... interesting. poor connor. and it makes me even more uncomfortable when he flirts with you in dao as a mage lmao. but whatever gjdfgj) she refuses to be cowed or feel guilty for being a mage -- a rare thing, for any mage in thedas, but specifically considering that she was an enchanter before she joined the grey wardens.
i also think it's really interesting how she emphasises her oaths as a warden comes before anything else, including political ambition. the warden-commander before her was alisse fontaine, and i wonder if it is, in a way, a reference to her previous warden-commander. specifically because the grey wardens seemed to have marched to ferelden to "support ferelden against the blight" on celene's orders/permission. i wonder, what right does the empress have to direct where the grey wardens go? (ive got my own thoughts on this but that's not what this ask is about)
if anything, having enough of a spine to wrestle the order out from under celene's sphere of influence is something else to admire about her
i think clarel is absolutely brilliant, and as a warden-commander, i do respect her. she knows they're all hearing the calling and her first concern is what will happen to a world without the grey wardens, knowing there's still two archdemons left. she clearly doesn't know that corypheus is free or involved in any of this -- understandable since her entire order has been hearing the calling. everyone canonically seems to have more sympathy for the templars getting "manipulated" in dai than they do for the wardens, who were genuinely manipulated via their connection to the blight. which they had no control over.
tl;dr: clarel was right. also, her last fucking lines were metal as fuck. MAGE WARDEN COMMANDER SUPREMACY BABEY
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breninarthur · 1 year
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The Warden Character Sheet: Part 1.1 [Prev][Next]
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OPINIONS. Give your Warden’s opinions–do any of them change over the course of the game?
The Chantry: Kallian is mistrustful of the Chantry. She's very passionate about her elven heritage; despite not actually knowing that much about it. She knows that there was an Exalted March, she knows that that's why alienages exist, and she knows that the Dalish have their own deities. She rejects the Chantry and the Andrastian faith, but growing up with it she still does take the Maker's name in vain if she's really surprised.
Tevinter: She doesn't know a tremendous amount about Tevinter, only what the Chantry teaches about them basically being evil and at fault for the darkspawn. She doesn't fully believe it, knowing what the Chantry says about elves, but she doesn't see Tevinter as a good place either.
Ferelden: I suppose she has mixed feelings about this? She loves Ferelden, and absolutely sees herself as Fereldan, but it doesn't mesh well with her actual experiences living there. I guess she just sees room for improvement. Over the course of the game, she becomes a bit more disillusioned.
Orlais: Unbeknownst to her, her great-grandmother was Orlesian, so there was no passed down negative attitude about Orlais in her family. Truthfully, she doesn't have much of an opinion on it before meeting Leliana, and then she bases all her thoughts on it on Leliana and what she has to say. So Kallian sees it as fancy and probably a bit snooty, and The Game sounds irritating but not really all that different to Fereldan politics.
Mages/Magic: Again, she's sort of ambivalent. Ela Surana is her distant cousin who was taken to the Circle at a young age, but Kallian knew she was a mage before that. So mages are absolutely regular people to her, just with additional abilities. Again thanks to Ela, magic is cool and interesting! But she knows it can be dangerous too. I'd say she has a pretty realistic view on it.
Apostates: She knows what it's like to feel trapped, so she can't blame anyone for wanting to get out/stay out of the Circle. She knows that some apostates are genuinely dangerous, but also that some of them are just regular people trying to live their lives. Cousin Ela was kind of an apostate for a little bit, after all.
Blood magic: Okay, this, she has the common view on. Blood magic is bad. Dangerous, scary, immoral. She doesn't consider that some people might use their own blood, or a little bit of a willing participant's or anything like that. Saying that, she does drink Avernus's potion, and wants to free Jowan. In the first case because she's desperate and thinks, well it's already done and it could help them end the Blight, and in the second because she generally believes in second chances and doesn't think Jowan is a bad person; just that he made bad choices.
Tranquil/Tranquility: The Tranquil are a bit creepy, but it's ultimately just sad. She hates the thought of it and doesn't understand why it's done to people. She pities the Tranquil more than anything.
Templars: Right off the bat, she doesn't have a great experience with them. They took her cousin away, they're among the first people in Lothering that react badly to her being a Grey Warden, and she dislikes their general attitude during the Broken Circle quest. She thinks they're bullies overall, and is glad Alistair never became a fully fledged one.
Dalish and City Elves: At the beginning, she completely romanticises the Dalish, and always dreamed of running away and joining them. She finds out from Duncan that her mam, Adaia, was Dalish, so this makes her feel even more connected to them. At the Brecilian Forest, she was expecting a big welcome. She expected to feel like she was coming home, set the bar way too high, and was inevitably disappointed. Overall, clan attitude was high with her, so it wasn't that she had a bad experience? Just more that she wanted to feel like she fit in more there than she did at the alienage. As for City Elves, she definitely has a kinship with them! Especially as she actually leaves the alienage. She's very passionate about their rights and treatment, and a huge part of the reason she wants Alistair on the throne is that she thinks he could bring change for them. She dreams of a place just for them - not an alienage, but nice towns, where no one bothers them, and they can just live happily. That said; Denerim alienage is prone to "small town syndrome" and she hates that everyone's always in everyone's business... even though she loves the gossip herself. She's sad that there's such a disconnect between the Dalish and the City Elves.
Alienages: Cages. Yes, they keep out as much as they keep in, but she resents that too. They're slums, elves are shunted off behind walls so that nobody has to think about them. She always wanted to leave. But over the course of the game, she misses it a lot.
Dwarves: She doesn't have much of an opinion on them at the start. Surface dwarves were few and far between and the ones she did meet didn't seem particularly "different" in any noticeable way. But she really dislikes the general society in Orzammar, and her dislike for nobles definitely stretches to dwarven ones, who she unfortunately has to spend a lot of time around. They don't treat her with prejudice because she's an elf, which is different for her, but they lump her in with humans as just "surfacer". She absolutely hates that.
Dwarven Caste System: Like the alienage and treatment of elves but worse. She hates it, it's awful, and a massive part of the reason she chooses Harrowmont for king is because Helmi supported him and shared her views on castes. She thought that Harrowmont was a lot more progressive than he ended up being, unfortunately.
Qunari/Tal-Vashoth (do they even know the difference?): She does not know the difference, and again, has very little opinion on them due to a lack of experience. The only qunari she's ever met is Sten. She does assume they're all like him, and she hates some of the things he talks about. But she's not one to tar an entire race of people with the same brush because of it, so she treats them on a case-by-case basis, like with everything and everyone else. She does eventually get closer to Sten too.
The Qun: From what Sten tells her, there's strict gender roles, strict life paths that you can never deviate from, and a borderline hatred of mages. She doesn't like any of it. He doesn't share much else with her.
Humans: Ah, the shemlen. Her opinions change a lot. As a kid, she's a little bit weary, knowing about alienage purges and all that, but Adaia tells her stories about good humans too (Duncan and Leliana, unbeknownst to her), so she doesn't have a particularly bad attitude. Then humans kill her mother, so she really hates all of them for a solid chunk of time. A few years pass after that before the start of the game, though, and she's mellowed a lot to just a general sense of mistrust. Then the events of her origin happens, and that's ramped up by a lot. She's on constant guard at the beginning of the walk to Ostagar with Duncan and Daveth, but warms up to them after a little while. The amount of humans sets her on edge at Ostagar, but Alistair immediately treats her like a regular person, so there's never any trust issue there with him. By the end, she treats them like everyone else. Case by case basis. But she'll always be a bit more cautious when first meeting one.
Nobility: Never liked them before the game, blames them for the conditions of the alienage. After her origin? Ohhhh she hates them. She hates them so much. She has an immediate good first impression of Teagan, though, and took on board the nice things Alistair had to say about Eamon. But she definitely prefers Teagan. Apart from that, fuck the nobility.
The Wardens: I mean, she didn't know much about the Grey Wardens before the game? They're heroes who end Blights, and that's pretty much it. After everything she goes through though, she really gains a much bigger sense of respect for them, and pride too. She loves being a Warden, despite everything.
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alenoah · 3 years
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I have to do Wicked Eyes, Wicked Hearts soon
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bitchesofostwick · 2 years
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Chapter 10: Saving Face
Were it anyone—anyone—but Josephine insisting that Ellinor must attend the opening dinner upon their arrival at Halamshiral, Cullen might shout at them. Or worse.
“She’s in no state to sit amongst nobility for hours,” he argues in hushed tones with the ambassador, when Ellinor disappears into her rooms to change out of her riding clothes and into the newest gown Josephine has had made for her, “not after what happened this morning,” but she can only shake her head.
“She must, Cullen.”
Why? he wants to demand.
“She is more than capable,” Josephine explains, and he could shake her—it’s not about capability, he’s well aware that Ellinor’s expertise of etiquette and decorum knows no bounds but she hates them. She hates the Orlesian elite as it is, she might have had more patience for Ferelden’s if the king himself was attending—she likes Alistair, he remembers—and even Dorian who should attend as a friend is straddling the limbo between her good side and her bad. When it’s clear that her explanation does nothing to satisfy his ire, the ambassador places her small hand atop his, her eyes somber, dark. “We must ask this of her.”
He pulls his hand away. “You’re asking it of her. Not me.” As soon as he’s said it, a part of him wants to apologize, it’s Josephine after all and he has no capacity for politics and formality but he has faith in hers, if no one else’s, and yet he can’t find it in him to feel remorse for speaking up for Ellinor when it appears no one else will. After all, Leliana had made no complaint when Josephine, gingerly favoring her arm after the incident with the anchor, insisted tonight would go on as planned. Even Cassandra merely nodded her agreement before taking her leave after they’d arrived at the sprawling estate. It’s as though nothing happened, but he knows Ellinor, and he knows what she needs more than anything else is time to rest, time alone, time perhaps—if he allows himself to be so bold—to permit him to offer her reassurance.
“I know,” Josephine says softly, clasping her hands and bowing her head. “But I hope—I hope, Cullen, that asking this of her tonight will be the start of asking nothing more of her for the future, do you see?”
No, he wants to say stubbornly, though when she frames it as such, when he thinks about it very hard, he can see the political angle of her stance. I don’t have to agree with it, though. He grits his teeth. “Very well.”
It is at Josephine’s insistence that they all find themselves in the great hall of the estate that evening for a formal dinner. Once, Cullen might have found himself lost in the sight of the gown Ellinor wears—high necked, full sleeved, dark red trimmed with gold, elegant and yet commanding. Not now, though. He sees little but the extreme caution she carries herself with, the practiced smiles and curtsies as she greets the rest of the guests, the way she tucks her left hand behind the small of her back when she allows the nobility to kiss the knuckles of her right.
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borisbubbles · 3 years
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Character analysis: Vivienne de Fer (Dragon Age Inquisition)
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So, if you’ve wondered where I popped off to the past two months or so, I’m going to give you an answer - I finally bought Dragon Age Inquisition (legit on my gaming wishlist since its 2014 release) and I’ve been obsessed with it ever since. 
The main draw to this game however, isn’t so much the gameplay (if you want a game that feels similar but has better gameplay - Assassin’s Creed Odyssey is what you’d want instead), but the storytelling and particularly the character development are top notch. All nine companions are fascinating and fleshed out in such a realistic manner I’m still gasping in awe on my fifth playthrough.  Thus, a post on it is in order. It’s a bit different from my usual content, but don’t let that discourage you - clearing my head from Dragon Age will allow me to let Eurovision back in and continue my unfinished 2020 ranking.  In this post, I will be analyzing one of DAI’s most interesting characters - none other than Madame de Fer herself, Vivienne.  Now, I’m under the impression that this is a rather unpopular opinion but I absolutely love Vivienne. And no, I won’t apologize for it. As a Templar-thumping elitist with a icy, sardonic demeanor the sheer ‘Idea Of A Vivienne’ is meant to make your head spin. Dragon Age has always been a franchise in which mages are a socially surpressed group and to be confronted with a socially confident enchantress who likes Templars and seemingly supports the social shunning out of her own ambition is the walking embodiment of flippancy. 
and yet, I feel a lot of sympathy for Vivienne. 
Yes, she’s a bitch. She knows she’s one and she’s a-ok with it. I won’t argue with that. Sadly, the “Vivienne is a bitch” rhetoric also drastically sells her short. Vivienne is highly complex and her real personality is as tragic as it is twisted. 
Madame de Fer
So let’s start with what we are shown on the surface. Vivienne is a high-ranking courtier from an empire notable for its deadly, acid-laced political game. She seemingly joins the Inquisition for personal gain, to acrue reputation and power, and eventually be elected Divine (= female pope) at the end of the game. She presents herself as a despicable blend of Real Housewife, Disney Villain, and Tory Politician, all rolled into one ball of sickening, unctuous smarm. Worse, the Inquisitor has no way to rebuke Vivienne’s absurd policies and ideas. You can’t argue with her, convince her to listen to your differing viewpoints or even kick her out the Inquisition. She has a way with words where she can twist arguments around in such a fashion that she lands on top and makes the other person look like the irrational party.
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“Thus speaks the Inquisitor who has made so many mature and level-headed choices so far. Such as releasion malcontents upon the population without safeguards to protect them should they turn into abominations. Very wise. I rearranged some furniture. Lives aren’t thrown into jeopardy by my actions. Perhaps a little perspective is needed.”
She’s Cersei Lannister on creatine, Dolores Umbridge on motherfucking roids. If you look at merely the surface, then yes, Vivienne looks like the worst person ever created. I love a good anti-villainess however, and she’s definitely one. 
Yet, she never actually does anything ‘evil’? Yes, she is ‘a tyrant’ as a Divine, but 1) the person saying this is Cassandra, whose dislike for mage freedom is only matched by her dislike of being sidelined 2) Divine Vivienne isn’t bad to mages either? (hold that thought, I’ll get to it). She never actually sabotages the Inquisition, no matter how low her approval with the Inquisitor gets. She never attempts to stop them, no matter how annoyed she is. She’s one of the most brutally honest companions in the cast, in fact. (It always surprises me people call her a ‘hypocrite’ - you keep using that word and it doesn’t mean what you think it means.) The ‘worst’ display of character is when she attempts to break up Sera and the Inquisitor and even then - are we going to pretend Sera isn’t a toxic, controlling girlfriend with a huge chip on her shoulder? I love Sera, but come on.  
Vivienne is a character where the storytelling rule of Show, Don’t Tell is of vital importance. The Orlesian empire is an empire built around posturing and reputation. Nobody really shows their true motivations or character, and instead builds a public façade. It’s like how the Hanar (the Jellyfish people) in Mass Effect have a Public name they use in day-to-day life, and a Personal Name for their loved-ones and inner circle. Vivienne’s ‘Public Visage’ is that of Madame de Fer - this is the Vivienne who openly relishes in power, publicly humiliates grasping anklebiters with passive-aggressive retorts, the woman who is feared and loathed by all of Orlais, and this is the Face you see for most of the game.
The real beauty of Vivienne’s character and the reason why I love her as much as I do (which is to say - a LOT) are the few moments when - what’s the phrase DigitalSpy love so much - Her Mask Slips, and you get a glimpse of the real woman underneath the hennin.
This is the Vivienne who stands by you during the Siege of Haven and approves of you when you save the villagers from Corypheus’s horde.
This is the Vivienne who comforts you when you lament the losses you suffered.
This is the Vivienne who admires you for setting an example as a mage for the rest of Thedas.
This is the Vivienne who worries about Cole’s well-being during his personal quest, momentarily forgetting who or what he is. 
This is the Vivienne who, when her approval for the Inquisitor reaches rock bottom, desperately reminds him of the suffering mages go through on a day-to-day basis because of the fear and hatred non-mages are bred to feel towards them and how this can spiral into more bloodshed without safeguards. 
This is the Vivienne who shows how deep her affection for Bastien de Ghislain truly is, by bringing you along during his dying moments. I love this scene btw. This is the only moment in the entire game where Vivienne is actually herself in the presence of the Inquisitor - needless to say, I consider anyone who deliberately spikes her potion a motherfucking psychopath ^_^)
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“There is nothing here now” fuck I *almost* cried at Vivienne, get out of my head BioWare, this is WRONG -- people who delude themselves this is an irredeemable character. 
So, who is Vivienne really?
Understanding Vivienne requires recognizing that the mask and the real woman aren’t the same person. I think her relationship with Dorian is the prime example of this. I love the Vivienne/Dorian banter train, obviously - an unstoppable force of sass colliding with an unmovable wall of smarm is nothing short of a spectacle. However, there’s more to it than their highly entertaining snipes. As the incredibly gifted son of a magister, Dorian represents everything Vivienne should despise, and should be a natural enemy to her. And yet, she doesn’t and he isn’t.. Their gilded japes at each other are nothing more than verbal sparring, not dissimilar to how Krem and Iron Bull call each other names when they beat each other with sticks. In what I think is one of the most brilliantly written interactions between characters in DAI, I present Vivienne’s reaction when the Inquisitor enters a romance with Dorian:
Vivienne: I received a letter the other day, Dorian. Dorian: Truly? It's nice to know you have friends. 🙄 Vivienne: It was from an acquaintance in Tevinter expressing his shock at the disturbing rumors about your... relationship with the Inquisitor. Dorian: Rumors you were only too happy to verify, I assume. 🙃 Vivienne: I informed him the only disturbing thing in evidence was his penmanship. 🙂 Dorian: ...Oh. Thank you. 😳 Vivienne: I am not so quick to judge, darling. See that you give me no reason to feel otherwise.
Madame de Fer can never be seen directly expressing approval to a relationship between the Herald of Andraste and an ‘Evil’ Tevinter ’Magister’. By this subtle, subtle conversation, Vivienne indirectly tells Dorian that she considers him a good match for the Inquisitor and approves of the romance. It’s one of those reasons why I could never truly dislike Vivienne - between the layers of elegant poison lies a somewhat decent woman who never loses sight of the bigger picture. Not a good person maybe, but not one without some redeeming qualities.
The crux of Vivienne’s personality is that she, like all DAI companions, is a social outcast. She’s a mage in a fantasy setting where mages are psionically linked to demons, and grew up in a country where the majority religion has openly advocated the shunning and leashing of mages (’Magic exists to serve man’ - the Chantry is so, so vile in this game.). Vivienne’s “gift” was discovered so early in her life that she can barely remember her parents. Vivienne grew up in a squalid boarding school, learning from a young age that she’s dangerous and her talents need to be tamed and curbed. She is also terrified of demons, as her banters with Cole point out:
Cole: You're afraid. You don't have to be. Vivienne: My dear Inquisitor, please restrain your pet demon. I do not want it addressing me. Inquisitor: He's not doing any harm, Vivienne. Vivienne: It's a demon, darling. All it can do is harm. Cole: Everything bright, roar of anger as the demon rears. No, I will not fall. No one will control me ever again. Cole: Flash of white as the world comes back. Shaking, hollow, Harrowed, but smiling at templars to show them I'm me. Cole: I am not like that. I can protect you. If Templars come for you, I will kill them. Vivienne: Delightful. 😑
Vivienne’s Harrowing is implied to have been such a traumatizing event to her that she’s developed a pavlovian fear of demons ever since. (Hence her hostility towards Cole.). Vivienne is fully aware of the inherent dangers of magic, and projects this onto all other mages. 
Besides, given how Dragon Age has a history with mages doing all sorts of fucked up shit, ranging from blood magic, murder, demonic possession and actual terrorism (yes, *ElthinaBITCH* had it coming, but let’s not pretend like Anders/Justice was anything other than a terrorist), Vivienne’s policies of controlled monitoring and vigilance are actually significantly more sensible than the options of ‘unconditionally freeing every mage all over Thedas’ and ‘reverting back to the status quo before the rebellion’. They’re flawed policies, obviously. When Vivienne says “mages” she pictures faceless silhouettes foremost and not herself. Regardless, unlike Cassandra and Leliana, Vivienne is aware of the fear others harbour for her kind, and how hard it is to overcome such perceptions.  
Additionally, Vivienne’s a foreigner. She is an ethnic Rivaini, a culture associated with smugglers and pirates (Isabela from DAO and DA2 is half-Rivaini). This adds an additional social stigma, again pointed out by Cole:
Cole: Stepping into the parlor, hem of my gown snagged, no, adjust before I go in, must look perfect. Vivienne: My dear, your pet is speaking again. Do silence it. Cole: Voices inside. Marquis Alphonse. Cole: "I do hope Duke Bastien puts out the lights before he touches her. But then, she must disappear in the dark." Cole: Gown tight between my fingers, cold all over. Unacceptable. Wheels turn, strings pull. Cole: He hurt you. You left a letter, let out a lie so he would do something foolish against the Inquisition. A trap. Vivienne: Inquisitor, as your demon lacks manners, perhaps you could get Solas to train it.
This is the only palpable example of the casual racism Vivienne has to endure on a daily basis - Marquis Alphonse is a stupid, bigoted pillowhead who sucks at The Game, but remember - Vivienne only kills him if the Inquisitor decides to be a butthurt thug. She is aware that for every Alphonse, there are dozens of greasy sycophants who think exactly like he does, and will keep it under wraps just to remain in her good graces. 
Finally, there’s the social position Vivienne manufactured for herself, which is the weak point towards her character imo. Remember, this woman is a commoner by birth. She doesn’t even have a surname. Through apparently sheer dumb luck (or satanic intervention) she basically fell into the position of Personal Mage to the Duke of Ghislain. Regardless, ‘Personal mages’ were the rage in Orlesian nobility, and the prestigious families owned by them like one may own a pet or personal property. By somehow becoming Bastien de Ghislain’s mistress and using his influence, "Madame de Fer” liberated herself from all the social stigmata which should have pinned her down into a lowly courtier rank and turned the largely ceremonial office of “Court Enchanter” into a position of respect and power. This is huge move towards mage emancipation by the way, in a society where, again, Mages are feared and shunned and are constantly bullied, emasculated and taught to hate their talents. Vivienne is a shining example of what mages can become at the height of their power. Power she has, mind you, never actually abused before her Divine election. Vivienne’s actions will forever be under scrutiny not because of who she is, but because of what she is. The Grand Game can spit her out at any moment, which will likely result in her death. 
Inquisitor: “You seem to be enjoying yourself, Vivienne?” Vivienne: “It’s The Game, darling. If I didn’t enjoy it, I’d be dead by now.”
Whether Vivienne was using Bastien for her own gain or whether she truly loved him isn’t a case of or/or. It’s a case of and/and. The perception that she was using Bastien makes Vivienne more fearsome and improves her position in the Grand Game, but deep down, I have no doubts truly loved him. Remember, Vivienne’s position at the Orlesian court was secure. She had nothing to gain by saving Bastien’s life, but she attempted to anyway. That Bastien’s sister is a High Cleric doesn’t matter - Vivienne can be elected Divine regardless of her personal quest’s resolution. She loved him, period. 
No, I don’t think Vivienne is a good person. She treats those she deems beneath her poorly, like Sera, Solas, Cole and Blackwall (characters I like less than Vivienne), which I think is the #1 indicator for a Bad Personality. But I don’t think she qualifies as ‘Evil’ either and I refuse to dismiss the beautiful layering of her character. I genuinely believe Vivienne joined the Inquisition not just for her personal gain, but also out of idealism, similar to Dorian (again, Cole is 100% correct in pointing out the similarities between Dorian’s and Vivienne’s motivations for joining, as discomforting it is to her). 
In her mind, Vivienne sees herself as the only person who can emancipate the mages without bloodshed - her personal accomplishments at the Orlesian court speak for themselves. Vivienne isn’t opposed to mage freedom - she worries for the consequences of radical change, as she believes Orlesian society unprepared for the consequences. Hence why she’s perfectly fine with a Divine Cassandra. Hence why her fellow mages immediately elect her Grand Enchanter of the new Circle. 
Hence why Vivienne is so terrified by the Inquisitor’s actions if her disapproval gets too low. The Inquisitor has the power to completely destroy everything she has built and fought for during her lifetime. Remember: Vivienne’s biggest fear is irrelevance - there’s no greater irrelevance than having your life achievements reverse-engineered by the accidental stumbling of some upstart nobody. This is the real reason why she joins, risks her life and gets her hands dirty - the only person whose competence Vivienne trusts, is Vivienne’s own. 
Even as Divine Victoria, I’d say she’s not bad, at all actually. Vivienne has the trappings of an an Enlightened Despot, maintaining full control, while simultaneously granting mages more responsibility and freedom, slowly laying the foundations to make mages more accepted and less persecuted in southern Thedas. Given that Ferelden is a feudal fiefdom and Orlais is an absolute monarchy, this is a fucking improvement are you kidding me. (Wait did he just imply Vivienne is secretly the best Divine - hmm, probably not because Cass/Leliana have better epilogues - but realistically speaking, yes, Viv should be the best Divine and it’s bullshit that the story disagrees.) 
Underneath the countless layers of smarm, frost and seeming callousness, lies a fiercely intelligent and brave woman, whose ideals have been twisted into perversion by the cruel, ungrateful world around her. Envy her for her ability to control her destiny, but know that envy is what it is.  
The flaw in Vivienne’s character isn’t so much the ‘tyranny’ or the ‘bitchiness’ or the 'smarm’. Her flaw is her false belief that she is what the mages need the most. Her belief that her competence gives her the prerogative to serve the unwashed mage masses... by ruling over them. For all intents and purposes, Vivienne is an Orlesian Magister and this will forever be the brilliant tragedy of her character. She was created by a corrupt institution that should, by all accounts fear and loathe her but instead embraced her. It’s that delirious irony that makes Vivienne de Fer one of the best fictional characters in RPG history.  the next post will be Eurovision-related. :-) 
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fandomn00blr · 3 years
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OC Questionnaire
@cleverblackcat tagged me into this one a few days ago, and I started filling it out for Delilah Howe (not an OC...an adopted NPC!) and I am still working on it for her. But then @funkypoacher tagged me, and gave me specific permission to do it for *my* versions of Carver or Stroud...lol...
So anyway, here’s Stroud, everyone’s Warden Dad(...dy...? jk jk...unless?)
THE BASICS
Character’s name: Jean-Marc Stroud
Role in story: He’s your dad now...unless you’re Loghain and then he’s your infuriating boyfriend/husband whom you are absolutely smitten with...also, Warden-Commander of the Eastern Wardens after Dragon Age Awakening
Physical description: I feel a bit guilty constantly objectifying this poor man and his mustache, but he is just...*chef’s kiss* (Loghain’s POV, but also mine):
Stroud’s quite fit for a man his age, an unmistakably sturdy V-shaped torso atop well-muscled legs, with broad shoulders and strong, defined arms. He’s never quite realized just how chiseled and square his jaw is, either. And as his eyes rove over his face, he tries not to stare too longingly at his lips, which he’s already been acquainted with, though it feels like it’s been ages since that cave-in, and he certainly wouldn’t mind getting re-acquainted. With any part of him, really.
(LOGHAIN! STOP BEING SO HORNY FOR YOUR BOYFRIEND, YOU GRUMPY OLD BASTARD!)
MBTI/Enneagram Personality Type: IDK
INTERNAL LIFE
What is their greatest fear? Probably disappointing anyone who is depending on him for safety/protection/reassurance
Inner motivation: Is ‘just wants everyone to feel safe’ an inner motivation? No. Shoot. STROUD WHAT MOTIVATES YOU?! Oh, I know...the fact that he lost everyone and everything he cared about to the Game and instead of going on a fucking rampage, he internalized it and joined the Wardens so that their deaths wouldn’t have been a total waste. What’s that called?
Kryptonite: If one of his Warden ‘kids’ is hurting, it hurts him...doubly so if he can’t do anything about it.
What is their misbelief about the world? Ok, so this is a tough one. Dude has been through all of it, and still believes in the power of kindness and duty and compassion, but not in a naive way. He chooses it, right? So I wouldn’t call it a misbelief, but he genuinely believes everyone is capable of choosing good, or trying to do better, or whatever. Shut up. I’m not crying, I swear.
Lesson they need to learn: You can’t save ‘em all (he still has regrets about what happened with Anders and Justice).
What is the best thing in their life? His little Eastern Warden family...Vigil’s Keep comes to feel like home to him.
What is the worst thing in their life? The thought of ever having to deal with Orlesian politics again...which is why he’s so grumpy in Inquisition.
What do they most often look down on people for? He has very little patience for people who manipulate others for their own personal gain.
What makes his/her/their heart feel alive? Seeing his Wardens thrive/come into their own/embrace duty/grow/find love...I SAID I WASN’T CRYING!
What makes them feel loved, and who was the last person to make them feel that way? Stroud doesn’t need a lot of personal reassurance to know that people care about him and that he serves a purpose...but if someone goes out of their way to do something just for him, he absolutely falls apart. Loghain making an Orlesian-inspired dish for his birthday was the last thing I wrote of this variety, but I imagine that Loghain does a lot of stuff like that just to see Stroud’s cheerful stoicism obliterated...and also because he loves him.
Top three things they value most in life? Helping others/compassion, his found family, and his duty as a Warden (but not in, like, a stupid way...)
EXTERNAL LIFE
Is there an object they can’t bear to part with? He keeps a portrait of his family tucked away among his things...the only item he brought with him from his former life when Clarel recruited him to the Wardens.
Describe a typical outfit from top to bottom. Heavy silverite Warden armor while out on missions, over a dark blue quilted tunic with a silver embroidered griffon and leggings (?). All very official. Off-duty, he wears simple undyed cotton or wool tunics (they’re probably fitted well) and woolen breeches (also fitted...um...well...*fans self*). It’s hot. <- Loghain, again?! Yeesh...
What is their method of manipulation? He’s not big on manipulation (see above), but he knows how to get what he wants from Loghain by wiggling his mustache and just...staring at him...all twinkly-eyed. Maybe chuckling good-naturedly if he wants to bring out the big guns.
Describe their daily routine. (Whoops...I missed this one, I guess!) Wake up early. Breakfast and paperwork in his office. Meetings, etc later in the morning. Then lunch with Loghain somewhere outside, weather permitting. Meetings/more paperwork/drills and training in the afternoon. Dinner with everyone in the dining hall at the end of the day. Quiet evenings. Then bed!
Their go-to cure for a bad day? Feet up in front of a fire...some tea? Maybe with a bit of whiskey in it. And something sweet to munch on like cookies. Bonus if Loghain is there with his little shawl, reading or complaining to him, preferably both...
GOALS
How are they dissatisfied with their life? He still harbors a lot of anger and resentment toward the Game (I mean...), but he’s actually pretty satisfied with his life as a Warden.
What would bring them true happiness or contentment? This is the most selfless thing ever, but he would love to see Loghain and Anora reconciled.
What definitive step could they take to turn their dream into a reality? He would never, but he totally could invite Anora to dinner at Vigil’s Keep or something and pretend it was Loghain’s idea...lol. OMG...AU where Stroud is the meddling spouse...!!!
How has their fear kept them from taking this action already? Not so much fear as it is just respect for personal boundaries or whatever...
How do they feel they can accomplish their goal while still steering clear of the thing they are afraid of? He hopes Loghain will eventually reach out to his daughter himself, or Anora will force her way back into her father’s life. During Inquisition, Loghain and Alistair (who is King and married to Anora in this world state) have a bit of a scuffle, then manage to get over their shit (sort of), so Stroud has some hope that they’ll all figure it out eventually. He just won’t be there to see it cuz he stays in the Fade, the self-sacrificing bastard.
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Dragon Age OC as a Companion: Revka Cadash
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Trend started by @little-lightning-lavellan it’s an amazing one and I had such fun with it! Thank you for the template!
This will be under a cut, because ohhhhhh my, there’s a lot here <3
This is also on AO3!
Is your OC a Companion in the Dragon Age series? What would it be like for a player to select them to join their party for quests (or romance them, perhaps? 👀) 
You have selected Revka Cadash to join your party!
Race: Dwarf 
Affiliation: Carta 
Gender: Female
Class: Rogue/Archer
Specialization: artificer
 Background
Revka Cordelia Cadash (born 8:95 Blessed) is a dwarven rogue and businesswoman. She is a companion and a potential romance option for a male human, dwarf, or qunari Inquisitor in Dragon Age: Inquisition.
Revka is a member of the many-membered Cadash Clan, and daughter of Brygida ‘Cookie’ Cadash and Artur ‘Archie’ Cadash. She has an older brother, Tavi, as well as numerous cousins, including Edric ‘Dasher’ Cadash, the head of the Ferelden Carta.  
Revka grew up in the company of her rambunctious cousins, and thus views them like brothers and sisters. It’s common for Cadashes to play tricks and pull pranks on each other as a way to show affection, as is evidenced in the short story ‘Flapping in the Breeze.’ Some of Revka’s favorite pranks include spiking food with chili oil, switching people’s beverages, hiding belongings, and breaking into ‘private’ things such as journals, desk contents, or that box of cookies under the bed.  
Revka made a name for herself in the Carta accompanying her mother and cousins on patrol as a teen. Her deadly accuracy with a bow earned her the nickname ‘Hawkeye;’ her duties quickly expanded to include ‘problem-solving’ for the Carta, her solutions ranging from assassinations, blackmail, and negotiating contracts, to smuggling, and forgeries. Her successful business plans and battle tactics made her a valuable asset to the Carta.
In 9:13 Dragon, Revka married Iwan Feddic, a member of the merchant caste and a Cadash client in Ostwick. She helped her husband run his international shipping business, a venture she took over after his untimely death. When Dasher’s wife, Darya, died at the hands of the Orlesian Carta, Revka returned to Ferelden to help her cousin raise his five children, turning over the Ostwicker affairs to her brother, Tavi.
When the Cadashes eliminated a rival Carta branch in Kirkwall, they sent Artur Cadash to oversee operations in the city. 22-year-old Revka volunteered to accompany him, becoming her father’s second in command. Once arrived in Kirkwall, she helped him found Graywater Imports, an import/export company functioning as a storefront for both legal and illegal goods. She is a prominent member of the Cadash Carta branch in Kirkwall, often dealing with the Dwarven Merchant Guild and Varric Tethras.
Romance with Varric Tethras
Shortly after Revka arrived in Kirkwall, she met the young Varric Tethras. What began as mixing business with pleasure became a romantic entanglement that lasted until Tethras met the talented smith Bianca Davri, and broke off with Revka for Bianca. As much as Revka wanted to cut all ties with him, she maintained their business relationship… and an unrequited, one-sided love for the deshyr prince.
Involvement
A special mission at the War Table will unlock a quest at Kirkwall’s Docks, ‘Ten Shades of Graywater,’ in which the Inquisitor will receive a mysterious anonymous letter inviting them to the coast to discuss a purveyor/supplier contract for the Inquisition. The Inquisitor will arrive in a seemingly abandoned alley, but is ambushed by Coterie thugs. After the enemies are slain, Revka can be engaged in conversation.
If Varric is in the party, he will be surprised to see Revka. It’s revealed that they know each other through various business ventures, and are old acquaintances… although the weighted, bitter quality of Revka’s answers imply that their relationship is more complicated than Varric had said.
Upon further questioning, Revka pitches her business proposal: wholesale lyrium for the Inquisition’s mages or Templars, with access to the Cadash Family’s network of spies, businesses, and Carta members for Inquisition purposes. Her only condition is that her family obtains an industry monopoly, becoming the sole provider of lyrium for the Inquisition and Southern Thedas.
Revka can be found near the archery targets and training dummies in Haven. Once the Inquisition relocates to Skyhold, Revka spends time training in the courtyard, in Skyhold’s main hall talking to Varric, or in the rookery, spoiling her messenger crow, Cipher, with treats. Dialogue options will reveal that she uses the bird keep in contact with her family and business associates.
 Approval and Romance
Revka can be romanced by a male Inquisitor of any race, and will jokingly comment on the height differences if romanced by a qunari, elf, or human. A Cadash inquisitor of either gender can unlock Carta-specific dialogue. Revka is guarded at first, giving out only generic information about her family, but with some persistent questioning the Inquisitor can wear her down. Depending on dialogue choices, the conversation can end with the Cadashes exchanging stories of ‘colorful’ family members and an approval gain.
   Revka takes a more pragmatic view on politics: she supports whoever pays the most, and sells lyrium to both the Templars and mages without discrimination. Upon learning the truth behind the events Redcliffe, however, she is dismayed to learn what her products enabled. Traveling to Redcliffe with Revka in the party will trigger her personal quest ‘Scales Fall from Her Eyes.’ (this quest will trigger after the Inquisition relocates to Skyhold if the player sided with the Templars)
Revka approves of Inquisitors who are tenacious, calculating/far-sighted, and does what is best for the majority. She believes that the end justifies the mean, sanctioning death only as a last resort. She approves of bold plans, investigating all aspects of a quest before making a decision, and an Inquisitor who makes jokes (especially puns). Her sense of justice changes as the player completes more of her personal quests. She will approve of charitable acts and kindness as the game progresses and her personal beliefs change.
Revka’s romance can be initiated through the conventional method flirting and conversation. During the quest ‘Scales Fall from Her Eyes,’ the Inquisitor has an opportunity to embrace Revka, leading to a kiss.
If Revka is not romanced by an Inquisitor, she can enter a relationship with Varric Tethras, but only if the Inquisitor assists in reconciling the two ex-lovers. Revka’s romantic past with Varric is hinted at in party banter if both are present, the two bickering with each other. This series of quests are available post-arrival at Skyhold, and has conditional dialogue for certain scenarios.
Revka gets along well with Dorian and Cassandra, bonding with them over their mutual love of books. It’s revealed that the three of them have an unofficial ‘book club’ going on, where they read various novels and comment on them in party banter. Revka also gets along well with Sera, bonding over pulling pranks in Haven and Skyhold. She makes a special bond with Leliana over nugs, owning a nug, herself.
Revka does not trust Solas from the moment she meets him, stating he knows too much, and is fond of talking without saying anything. She also suspects Blackwall of hiding something.
Companion Quests
Scales Fall from Her Eyes
After the events of Redcliffe, the Inquisitor will receive a note from Revka to meet her at the abandoned cabin outside Haven. Or, if the player sided with the Templars, this will trigger once the Inquisition relocates to Skyhold. At the meeting, she will share her guilt and horror at what occurred. She questions her personal beliefs, and offers an apology with the promise to amend her family’s business practices. After this quest, Revka is more empathetic, approving of selfless and charitable acts, whereas before she’d disapprove.
At the end of the quest, the Inquisitor has an opportunity to embrace Revka, which can lead to a kiss, if desired.
Varric’s Quest in Valammar
Revka can be found beside the fireplace in the main hall, arguing with Varric over the contents of a particular letter. Upon investigation, the Inquisitor learns that Revka has broken into the locked box in which Varric keeps his correspondence, which she claims he’s done to her on multiple occasions over the years. He neither denies nor confirms the accusation. Revka demands to know why Varric is still in contact with ‘that woman,’ declares she won’t set foot in the main hall until his ‘guest’ is gone, and leaves, demanding the Inquisitor ‘talk some sodding sense into him.’
This leads into Varric’s quests with Bianca Davri, and some cutting comments from Bianca calling Revka a ‘sore loser.’ Varric comes to Revka’s defense, much to the Inquisitor’s surprise.
If the Inquisitor takes Revka to Valammar, she disapproves and will grouse all the way there, cutting snide remarks whenever Varric says something. She becomes jealous during Bianca and Varric’s reminiscing, interjecting and muttering. Her anger only grows as the quest proceeds, Revka calling out Bianca for her selfish, pragmatic methods and carelessness. Once Inquisitor concludes the quest, Revka declares she needs some air, and says she’ll meet the Inquisitor at the nearest inquisition camp later.
Upon arrival at the campsite, a scout reports that Revka never returned to camp. The Inquisitor must search the nearby area; eventually, they find Revka injured after being ambushed by bandits (the Inquisitor and the party must defeat them in order for the quest to proceed).
If Varric is present, he will be upset, demanding to know why she would be so foolish as to wander around alone. Revka half-jokes, claiming how surprised she is that Varric cares about her safety, after all these years. Varric’s expression visibly shifts. The Inquisitor arranges for her immediate medical care, but it’s too serious a wound for her to remain out in the field. After this point, Revka is unavailable as a companion until after the Inquisitor returns to Skyhold.
Once the Inquisitor returns, they will find Varric in the central courtyard, pacing outside the infirmary/medical tents. The medic will inform the Inquisitor that Varric hasn’t left since Revka’s arrival, but refuses to go inside to see her. Selecting Varric for a conversation will show he can’t bear to face her after what happened at Valammar; he feels especially guilty, knowing that she got hurt in an attempt to calm down after the encounter. The Inquisitor can remind Varric that his apology should be to Revka, not them. To trigger their romance, the Inquisitor can encourage him to visit Revka and share his feelings.
If the Inquisitor visits her instead, they will gain high approval with her, and further unlock romance scenes. After the visit in the tent, Revka will invite the Inquisitor to her quarters to personally ‘thank’ him. The Inquisitor can choose to accept her proposition, or refuse. Depending on choice, Revka may sleep with the Inquisitor. There is an option to break relations off with Revka the morning after.
 Revka’s Family
Revka’s war table missions mostly revolve around business opportunities she’s scouted out for the Inquisition throughout Thedas. Some of these are triggered through conversations with Revka in the rookery or throughout Skyhold. Completing quests from her cousin Jon in Tevinter will reveal Venatori camps on all game-maps, and will reduce the cooldown time on war table quests dealing with Venatori in general.
Revka’s cousin, Czibor, can be encountered in the Hissing Wastes hunting Venatori. Accompanying xem in eliminating a Venatori camp can lead to xir recruitment as an Inquisition agent.
The Trouble with Tavi
After the quest Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts, Revka will ask to meet the Inquisitor, requesting their assistance in a matter of life or death. She reveals that she’s received a letter from the Orlesian Carta, stating their displeasure at the Inquisitor’s choice of ruler, since they’re encroaching on the Orlesian Carta’s operations. They know Revka and the Cadash family has been helping the Inquisition, and threaten to exact revenge. She’d thought it an empty threat until her brother Tavi stopped replying to her letters. Upon investigation, it’s revealed that the Orlesian Carta kidnapped Tavi and have hid him at their base in Val Royeaux. Revka asks the Inquisitor for assistance.
Should the Inquisitor refuse Revka, she will greatly disapprove, stating that her brother’s more important that the Inquisitor’s ‘sodding principles,’ and leave the Inquisition to save him. She will not be available again until later in the game (post Adamant), when a war table mission will appear from Tavi in Ostwick, stating that Revka saved him and has returned to Kirkwall. She is still very offended, and is considering terminating the Cadash business contracts with the Inquisition. He urges the Inquisitor to please make her reconsider, citing the monetary gain the contracts net him but also Revka’s hurt (note: the letter will also reference a romanced Varric, asking the Inquisitor to enlist his help). The Inquisitor has the choice to make up with Revka and invite her back, or leave her be.  
Should the Inquisitor choose to help Revka, she will greatly approve and travel with the Inquisitor to Val Royeaux. Varric—regardless of the romance status—will also express interest in coming, but bringing him along is not required. Revka will be touched by his offer, regardless.
The meeting place mentioned in the Carta’s letter is an abandoned oil warehouse at the docks. Inside, the companions note the derelict condition of the place. The further they travel into the warehouse, following a trail of blood, the smell of rancid oil grows stronger. In a storeroom, there is a lone dead dwarf bearing a note, a man Revka recognizes as Tavi’s second in command in Ostwick. If the Inquisitor can find Tavi before time runs out, the note says, they’re welcome to him. As the Inquisitor reads the note aloud, a shadow darts in the periphery; the door slams shut, locking them in. A torch is thrown in through a window, setting the spilled oil on fire.
The Inquisitor may, through a series of dialogue choices, decide to rescue Tavi or leave him to his fate, opting to escape. If the Inquisitor chooses to escape and leave Tavi behind, Revka will greatly disapprove, running off to find him herself. If she is romanced by Varric, he will also greatly disapprove, stating that they should go after Revka. If the Inquisitor chooses this route, they can still save Revka and Tavi. Otherwise, the two Cadashes are not seen again, supposedly perishing in the fire. Revka will then be unavailable as a companion for the remainder of the game.  
The mission to save Tavi is time-sensitive, with several endings: should the Inquisitor take too long to escape or find Tavi, the warehouse will collapse on them, killing everyone. The timer, separated into quarters, is marked by sections of the roof collapsing: escaping by the third collapse will guarantee the party’s safety. Escaping post-third collapse can result in a 50% chance of the roof collapsing on the party: if this occurs, Revka pushes either her love interest or her brother out of the way of a falling beam, sacrificing herself for their safety. The mission then ends with the party barely escaping in time, mourning the loss of their lover and/or friend.
Pranks
Various pranks around Skyhold and Haven are attributed to Revka via ambient dialogue and party banter. If the approval rate is high enough, Inquisitor has an opportunity to join Revka in pulling pranks around Skyhold post-Adamant. She claims that she’d like to cheer everyone up, and would like the Inquisitor’s help.
Prank 1: sneak into the kitchen and switch the sugar out for salt in a cake.
Prank 2: paint a smiley face on the back of a sleeping Solas’s head
Prank 3: Rearrange Vivienne’s furniture
Prank 4: Distract Varric so she can steal his letters and replace them with scrambled riddles
A cutscene follows, showing a crowd standing at the base of a flagpole the morning after. Revka pushes through the crowd, gasping: someone has nailed her frilly blue panties to the pole. Varric is seen leaning against a column, howling with laughter. Revka pulls a face at him and scowls, but eventually ends up laughing, too. (Note: this is inspired by the short story ‘Flapping in the Breeze’)
Trespasser
If Revka left or died during the events of the game, she will not be at the Winter Palace. Otherwise, there are several outcomes as to what she’s been doing…
If she romanced Varric, she returned to Kirkwall and is his lover
If she romanced the Inquisitor, she stayed alongside him as an Inquisition agent
If she did not romance anyone, she returned to Kirkwall
There is an option to marry Revka as a romanced Inquisitor, or urge her to marry Varric. If she marries, her brother Tavi and a recruited cousin Czibor may attend the ceremony.
 Combat comments
Kills an enemy
And stay dead!
Sodding nughumper, good riddance.        
Low Health
A little help would be lovely!
Oh shit. Not good.
Atredum na satolva! Toss me a health potion,     will you?
I’m too old for this…        
Low Health (Companions)
(The Inquisitor) Inquisitor!
(The Inquisitor - if romanced) Hold on, love!
(Varric, unromanced) Varric, you don’t look so     good...
(Varric, if romanced) Oh shit, don’t you dare die on     me.  
(Sera) Can someone check on Sera, please?
(Cassandra) Cass! Wait!
(Dorian) Dorian needs help!
Location comments
(Approaching Camp) Ahhh! Home sweet tent. 
(When collecting a shard) Ooh! I wonder how much it’d fetch at market.
Storm Coast
(sighs) They ought to call this place the ‘Soggy Coast,’ or the ‘Sopping Coast.’  My socks are soaked through to my boots.
Fallow Mire
The bugs will drain you dry before the undead will. Nug-humping bastards keep biting me…
Anyone else feel eyes watching you from the shadows?
Hinterlands
(Laughs) You know, back when I was running jobs for the Carta, I would get so lost here in the Hinterlands. Good to know things haven’t changed.
Don’t go near there; bears love that place. I learned that the hard way…
(at Witchwood) Ah, the Which-Witch-is-Which-Wood. Da would warn my brother and I about this place when were children.
The Hissing Wastes
I have sand in places I never knew existed.
Why my cousin had to choose to hunt Venatori in the ass-end of nowhere is beyond me…
Emprise du Lion
(scoffs) Snow. Snow. More sodding snow. I’m up to my tits in the stuff.
We don’t get snow like this in Kirkwall.
(on seeing a snowfleur) Ooh, look! Fluffy nugs! Can I take one home? Lucky could use a friend.
Emerald Graves
I…I heard the reason why this place is called the Emerald Graves. Such a tragic story.
I didn’t expect such greenery this far south, to be honest.
Exalted Plains
(shivers) You can feel the sorrow in this place.
 Companion Comments
Blackwall: “Rev? She’s a bit… unnerving, to be honest. Never smiles, glares holes in the side of your head. Offered to sell my carvings in Denerim, though: two sovereigns apiece. I swear she could sell water to a fish, that woman…”
Varric: “(Laughs) Hawkeye and I go way back. Don’t let her innocent face fool you: she’ll bleed you dry at Wicked Grace if you let her. Learned some of my best tricks from her—Don’t…erm. Don’t tell her that.”
OR
“Do you know how Hawkeye got her name? She shot a fly from across a room, once. Still don’t know how she did it.”
(If Inquisitor romanced Revka) Hawkeye’s a sweet girl, under all the Carta bullshit. I’m glad she has you; she deserves some happiness in her life.”
(If romances Revka): “I know they say don’t mix business with pleasure, but I get all the best discounts at Graywater Imports, now. You want anything? I think they’re running a sale on Antivan leather, at the moment.”
OR
“She’s probably upstairs feeding Cipher, knowing her. Or taking another order for Dagna; buys crafting supplies like candy, that one.”
Sera: “Rev’s fun, not all stuffy just ‘cause she’s someone back home, yeah? Takes jokes well. Can’t shoot for shit, though…”
Cole: Ash, steel, gray, withering inside at the sight of him smiling at her. Don’t look back, you’re not going that way; old coals don’t rekindle. It bleeds under her armor, but she can’t bandage the wound. I want to help. (if she romances Varric) but he helped her feel whole again. (if she romances the Inquisitor) but you helped her feel whole again.
Solas: “Is it wise to allow a known member of the Carta in our ranks? She actively seeks information and passes it along to her superiors.”
OR
“Do tell Mistress Cadash that if she breaks into my desk one more time, I shall ward the drawers to set her on fire. I can tolerate harmless pranks, but one thing I cannot abide is liars who snoop.”
Iron Bull: “They say still waters run deep, and she’s no exception. She might appear all laughs and smiles, but that woman knows exactly what she’s doing. Don’t underestimate her.”
Dorian: “Ah, my darling Rev: she has excellent taste in literature and baked goods.” (if she romances Varric) “And dwarven merchant princes.”
Cassandra: “I doubted her intentions, at first, but she has proven herself quite useful to the Inquisition. If you see her, tell her to return my book, will you? She ‘borrowed’ a week ago, and I want to know what happens to the poor Guard Captain.”
Vivienne: “Mistress Cadash would do quite well at court; she understands the Game surprisingly well for one who’s not a courtier. Too strong from the onset, however: the idea is to gain a person’s trust, not frighten them into submission.”
Cullen: “I knew Mistress Cadash back in Kirkwall; I’d frequent Graywater Imports often. They carry three kinds of hair pomade there, did you know?”
Josephine: “Mistress Cadash has many useful connections throughout Thedas; I’m pleased she offers them to us so freely. But then, we’re making her a rich woman with all the business contracts. Quid pro quo, as the Tevinters say.”
Leliana: “Rev is a shrewd woman, fierce and good at her craft. Did you know that she has a pet nug in Kirkwall? She always has something for the birds when she comes here; I like her.”
 Trivia
It’s said that the young Varric Tethras wrote his  first novel, The Dasher’s Men, about Edric Cadash, Revka’s cousin. The femme fatale who assists the hero of the tale, Revka, is heavily inspired by Varric’s lover at the time, Revka Cadash. An autographed copy of The Dasher’s Men can be found in the rookery, where Revka sits.  
Revka adores cookies, and has been trying to get the secret brandy snap recipe off of her cousin, Edric, for years. She has tried everything  from recipe book publisher scams to impersonating the Viscount of Kirkwall’s chef to obtain the recipe
In party banter, Revka will mention her nug, Lucky, which, according to the short story, she won  during a rather raucous evening of Wicked Grace.
When Revka isn’t reading, answering correspondence, or training, she enjoys baking, sewing, and embroidery.
Despite being an adept businesswoman, Revka is terrible at bookkeeping, and will often complain about it to Varric… sometimes enlisting him to do it, with a bribe of cookies.
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To the Victor the Spoils
In the Skyhold gardens, in Adamant's wake, Solas meets Loghain.
A character study of two trickster-kings, speaking a little too honestly.
As Loghain himself says, "The past is always with us. It’s in our bones and our blood and we wear it on our skin. You can think otherwise, but you’ll never get far without it." Read on Archive of Our Own here.
The Inquisitor’s hand aches, and Solas is responsible, so he rouses himself from the Fade and dresses quietly. His erstwhile roommates, Varric and Dorian, snore away soundly. They came back late last night and may still wake up drunk. If this were not the third night in the row they had done this, he would be more sympathetic and leave a tincture for their headache. Alas, they must learn soon, or he will simply make a lot of noise waking up. There are healthier ways to cope with bad battles and beloveds’ deaths by drinking, however Varric wants to honor Hawke. Adamant has left them all aching. He would still like to sleep.
Outside Blackwall is running the new recruits through their basic drills. He is yelling at them about honor—another Adaman casualty. The children look like badly-plucked chickens in their ill-worn armor, shambling in the gray morning light. Solas would tell them to stand up straight and widen their stances, but here he does not need to play the drill sergeant. He leave Blackwall to his work and retreats into the main keep.
Morning prayer has just released and Leliana is wistful, her hood down. She pauses by Varric’s table and looks unseeingly at the stack of books. Then she sees him, and her face grows as porcelain-clear as a doll’s.
“Good morning, Solas,” she says. “You’re up early.”
The easiest way to answer is to obfuscate, and the best way to obfuscate is simply to say the truth. Solas says, “I enjoy the quiet, before Skyhold’s residents slip back into their daily routines.”
Leliana chuckles, and the porcelain visage warms into flesh. “Surely the Fade reflects routine too? The Hero of Ferelden told me she found me at my prayers, when we were trapped by a Sloth demon.”
You people dream such dull lives, Solas thinks but does not say, but of course I took the dreams away. He says, “There is disruption to be found on both sides of the Veil.” She watches him as he walks towards the cloister. He resists the urge to strut. Apostates, particularly those claiming to be hermits, do not walk with pride in their power and accomplishments. Many of the mages he has observed scuttle rather than stride. Solas has never tried to draw attention to himself; he cannot help being six feet tall and occasionally a redhead. Still, he tempers his walk.
In the cloister Elan’Vemal is buzzing around the felandaris like an angry wasp. Solas ignores her and walks towards the royal elfroot, pulling out his knife.
“Absolutely not,” she says.
Solas crouches down next to the bush. “I beg your pardon?” he says to the branches. The tips of its leaves are an electric violent. He can grind the stalks into a salve that will soothe the spasms in the Inquisitor’s hand and temporarily numb the spread of the Anchor. The leaves he will keep for himself.
“Inquisitor’s only,” Elan’Vemal says. “Unless you have a requisition form.” She looms over him, arms crossed. She’s a nasty little creature. The Inquisitor had not been pleased at her barefaced attempt at manipulation. Solas touches his own cheek, sans vallaslin, and does not even allow the thought to fully form.
He says, “I am making a salve for the Inquisitor.”
“A likely story.” Elan’Vemal is unimpressed.
Irritated, Solas says, “The stalk of this plant, ground into a salve with arbor blessing harvested wild and the stamen of the amrita vein, releases a numbing agent useful for treating Fade-inflicted wounds.” This is accurate enough, for her purposes. “We will be marching on Adamant in two weeks, and best be prepared.” He takes his knife and cuts only two branches from the stalk, when initially he had hoped to take three. Elan’Vemal watches him work. He is careful not to wound the plant. Grudgingly she remains silent as Solas ties the branches into a small bundle.
As he pushes himself to his feet, brushing the dirt from his knees, she says, “And the leaves? What will you use that for?”
Solas says, “Getting high, of course. What else?”
Shocked, Elan’Vemal laughs. He smiles slightly and makes his escape, dodging Mother Giselle with a polite “good morning.” The salve will not take much time to prepare, but the day is barely long for all he wants to do. There is the basic sketch for his fresco of Adamant. He already has a sense of what the colors need to be, and so he need to requisition more cinnabar for the corrupted lyrium holding the City enchained. There are calculations to be run, as well, regarding the latest of his Veil accelerometers. They have reactivated enough for him to use the lodestone at Skyhold as a base and predict where the Veil is weakest. The Inquisitor ought to plan her next foray where the Veil needs the most attention; but first, he must soothe her hand, and let her know she is cared for. He cares for her. She knows that; but after Adamant, the reminder will help.
A man is staring at him, not unkindly, so Solas turns with a practiced mild expression.
“May I help you?” he asks. It has not been easy to fall back into the habits he developed as Mythal’s thrall, but he has never been one for ease.
Loghain says, “You fought valiantly at Adamant.”
The almost-king of Ferelden: even now he cannot help but trip into exalted circles. Solas takes him in quickly before responding. He has heard the Inquisitor complain about Loghain’s betrayal of the Night-Elves, the resistance force both the Dalish and the urban elves of Ferelden launched against the Orlesian occupation. Solas separates the personal dislike from the political necessity. Of course the Teryn could not keep the elves of Ferelden armed; he could not risked an armed and organized minority clamoring for land just after they had waged and won one foreign war. Factionalism is so easy to fall into; Solas knows this from experience. That does not excuse it, but one does what must be done. He has done similar and worse. He would have left Cailan to die at Ostagar, and the Wardens too—but he would not have been so obvious about it.
Loghain himself looks like a tired but brawny old man, much like himself nowadays. Blue rings his eyes, but he is clean-shaved and his armor is polished. If the darkspawn in his blood keeps him up at night, he does not let it taint his day. He still survives.
Why does he notice him? Why did he notice him on the battlefield? Solas is too old for flattery. What does he want from him?
Solas says, “Thank you. You as well.” Inveterate loser, he thinks. He does not know if he is insulting him or Loghain: both, this is your human kin, the Fade will press him into your archetype.
Loghain says, “I’ve fought with apostates before, when we faced down the Archdemon—Dalish and human too. But I’d never seen any mage move that quickly, or so competently bark orders at frozen soldier in the field. Have you served before? Ferelden, Tevinter, or Orlais?”
Solas, as practiced, recites, “I’ve journeyed deep into the Fade, in ancient ruins and battlefields, where I’ve watched as hosts of spirits clash to reenact the bloody past in ancient wars both famous and forgotten.” He smiles thinly. “One learns from their mistakes.” Yours and mine, he thinks and cannot say: I would have done what you did at Ostagar, but I would have made sure I was not blamed. So quickly one’s allies misunderstand the good one attempts to have wrought; so quickly it spirals out of one’s own control.
Loghain stares at him. “You dream on battlefields? And can see what had happened there?”
“I can watch spirits copy the strongest emotions felt there,” Solas corrects. “There is truth but she wears many faces.” Obfuscation via weak poeticism works so very well, though it marks him as more polished than most elves. “In the same blood-drenched patch of dirty a spirit acts and reenacts a soldier throwing himself to the ground in anguish as he sees his king overpowered. And then, in the same blink, another plays the role of the relieved foot soldier, glad to be spared a fatal charge in a battle of fools.” Perhaps bringing up Ostagar is not the most tactful, but he struggles to know the average quickling’s reference-point. His knowledge of history is vast, and time has slowed to a crawl. He does not know what else to reference.
Loghain presses his thin lips into an even thinner line. “Ostagar,” he says. “And before I’ve had my breakfast. Did you go there deliberately, or just…fall asleep?”
“I was in the neighborhood,” Solas says simply. It is not an untruth. He had found Flemeth’s cottage first. The dreams came easy. “Battles that change the tide of history mark the Fade as much they do the waking world. It is difficult to dream anything else, north of the Korcari Wilds.”
Loghain stares into his eyes. Solas, of course, peers back. The man’s eyes are a clear, cold blue, more brilliant for the bruises under them. The former regent of Ferelden says levelly, “When I dream, all I remember is a fool’s death and a hard choice. And I’d make the same again.”
“As you should,” Solas says. “There is no time for regret. You have lived your life according to the demands of your honor: for your countrymen, and now, your fellow Wardens. If you regretted that choice—if you sought to deny it, to fruitlessly work against the tide of the history you have made, that would be dishonorable. But you are an honorable man, are you not?” He realizes he is perhaps speaking more passionately than he ought. This is not Blackwall, an easy mirror to his own sins. He must remember what he is in the world: an elf, an apostate, a dirty outsider—no matter that he keeps himself cleaner than Cassandra. Repressively, he says, “Forgive me. Adamant stirs up old memories in us all. I am marked by what I witnessed as well.”
Loghain says, “You know war. Of course, most of your people do. The Warden has told me what the elves face in Orlais and Tevinter. It’s not much better in Ferelden.” Solas stirs, irritated, wanting to deny—but he is an elf, he is stuck in these circumstances, and he does know war intimately. He could not help but speak first. He cannot snap back. Loghain may be held in dishonor; that does not mean an elf can talk back. “Your friends have spent the past two nights in the tavern, drinking, and when that lugubrious warden isn’t weeping into his ale, he’s drilling the recruits to exhaustion. At least that will make them sleep at night. But that won’t do away with the dreams.” He smiles thinly. “I find your description of the Fade comforting. It means no one can lie about the past. Whatever it is. It’s always with us. It’s in our bones and our blood and sinks into our dreams. We wear it on our skin, and even the heavens are scarred with it. However history writes us.”
“To the victor the spoils,” Solas says.
Loghain burbles a laugh. It’s a pleasant sound, unexpected and a little hoarse. “Ha! And it’s my daughter who won. And right now—the Inquisition. The Wardens. Us. It’s easy to die for your cause. I could have claimed my redemption, if I need one, at Adamant. But it’s much harder to live for it, bearing the weight of the dead.”
Solas, surprised, says, “Yes.” He thinks, this is a lonely man, opening his deepest thoughts to a stranger, but aren’t I the same? Haven’t I been doing the same, with him, with Blackwall, with the Iron Bull and Varric and Cassandra and them all? He did not need the death of Wisdom as an excuse. He has found comradeship enough where he goes. He clears his throat, suddenly overcome. He thinks it through: I am upset, why? What has disturbed me? That this man carries his sins on his skin, and rejects the need for redemption. History has painted him the villain; I, also. Dread Wolf take you: what will they say about Loghain?
Loghain says, “It’s early in the day for this talk. I must be keeping you from your work.” The moment has passed; now they are awkward with each other, and not two soldiers who are harrowing a war. The man’s drawing into himself, embarrassed at the truth he told. Disappointed, Solas draws up to his full height and remembers: don’t hold yourself too tall.
He says, “Quite,” and holds up the pouch of royal elfroot. “Duty calls.” The Inquisitor’s hand is hurting and needs a salve. The quartermaster needs to order him cinnabar. Then there is the composition of the fresco to calculate and then sketch with charcoal, and more calculations, and sidestepping Leliana and Vivienne as to how he made those calculations. He saw it in the Fade. When he saw it, the Fade was everything, and there was no bleary waking. He leaves the courtyard and the almost-king, remembering and forgetting his words.
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Solas as Courtier
Offering a counterpoint to some of the smooth/suave Solas metas out there today, because I have a somewhat different understanding - both based upon the canon material we have and what, to me, is essential to correct/refine about the canon in my own writing.
My understanding of Solas is that he is essentially Castiglione’s ideal courtier. He loves the intrigue of Orlesian politics because it is very similar to the politicking he learned in Elvhenan. The goal is to be helpful, complimentary, and - above all else - entertaining to those in power, and to do this with sprezzatura (i.e. in a manner which makes all the effort that goes into being charming and helpful and entertaining seem effortless). 
The goal of successful courtiers is proximity to the ruler. Proximity means you have the ruler’s ear, and thus can persuade favors for friends and family, and have the chance (and responsibility) to steer your ruler toward correct and moral leadership.
Solas can feel the way the wind is blowing when the Herald wakes up. He immediately identifies who will be the main source of power because he has so much practice in this sort of environment. He tries to be helpful, charming, and clever. He schmoozes.
With a romanced Lavellan, he also compliments and engages in word play. He tells her he loves her. Again, these elements are all common to courtiers who wish to gain the favor of women rulers - it is, for example, the type of environment that was eventually turned against Anne Boelyn to accuse her of infidelity. But the love of a courtier to his mistress is meant to be chaste - he can write as many poems as he wants about her, profess his love to her, etc. - but of course he does not expect to actually sleep with her or rule beside her.
This is a problem for Solas. Of course Lavellan doesn’t know these conventions. She has no knowledge of the inner workings of any of the courts of Thedas (and of the ones we’ve seen in great detail, only Orlais seems to have anything of this political structure). Lavellan doesn’t know the steps to the dance Solas has initiated, so she responds in earnest. 
Has he ever experienced that before? Has he ever had a friendship or relationship (with someone who isn’t a spirit) that wasn’t essentially transactional in nature?  Obviously it’s impossible to say with the lore we currently have, but I think it’s an important question to ask given what Solas tells us of the political dynamics of Elvhenan. 
So, for me, when I’m trying to divine Solas’ fundamental character, beneath all the sprezzatura, I’m looking at scenes where the courtier falters. This happens in basically two scenarios. The first is with a low approval Inquisitior, where Solas refuses to pretend he agrees with viewpoints that he believes are harmful or unethical. There are limits to what Solas is willing to do to gain power within the Inquisition, and unreservedly backing an Inquisitor who he believes will do more harm than good is one of them.
The second scenario is the romance. I would argue that we see his courtier act drop in each of the romance scenes, but most noticeably in Crestwood and Trespasser. 
Here’s the thing: Being a great courtier is, in many ways, about being a great liar (or maybe a great actor if you want to be more charitable). You are on stage every moment of your life - not just when you’re in the public eye but often in private moments as well. You are “on” at every moment of the day. It’s an exhausting existence. So when you let that facade drop - as Solas does in the romance - it happens either because you cannot help yourself, or because you want someone to see the “real” you. I think you can interpret Solas’ motivations either way (or both ways).
But anyway, getting back to my initial point of why I think suave Solas is a product of life as a courtier versus who he truly is: If we believe that everything he shows to us as a courtier is a carefully constructed fiction, then we need to look at the moments where he can no longer be the courtier to find the truth. 
What I see in those scenes is a person who is not confident but deeply afflicted with self-doubt that often becomes self-hatred. I see a person who has never made a decision in his life without second guessing it and, usually, immediately regretting it. I see someone who is very, very clever but very, very terrified that the mask will slip and people will see how hard he is working to make it look so effortless.
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16, 32, & 34 for minah and dai
ty!! // slightly obscure d&d character questions
16. What keeps them going?
MINAH — the wonder of discovering somewhere new. the first kiss of a misty autumn morning after a long, hot summer. the joy of going swimming. a pastry she can only get when the troupe travels through the right Orlesian town. the excitement of new silks, new routines, new jobs. the satisfying exhaustion of a good performance (or a good con). the thrill of the crowd. the thought— hope— desperation— that this can't be all there is. it has to be worth it. it has to.
DAI — knowing there's somebody back home waiting for him. knowing these people count on him. knowing he can help, and that means he should. the desire to leave a place better than he found it. the desire to keep his people safe.
32. Does your character daydream? What do they usually keep their mind occupied with?
MINAH — sometimes she wonders about everyone back home, but that's not exactly a daydream. mostly she tries to keep herself occupied with rehearsing, or talking to the troupe, or driving. anything to keep her mind busy.
DAI — he does a bit, yeah. not so much these days, because fighting giant fuckoff kaiju monsters with a bunch of weirdos he doesn't like really doesn't lend itself to daydreams, but he's got an overactive brain and sometimes it comes up with shit all on its own. lately he's been daydreaming about a fucking vacation. (going home features a lot. introducing his dad to zaref, and izzy, and everyone else.)
34. How do they respond to condescension? 
MINAH — gets all prickly and seething and mad about it. she's learned a whole lot of hard lessons in her life and it really grinds her gears when people treat her like something lesser. if it's a status thing she can usually look past it—lots of people treat traveling performers like shit, and like, okay, yeah, she is a part-time thief—but if it's personal? oh baby, it's personal.
DAI — he gets all cold and stony, but he tries so hard to keep polite and patient. mostly he just returns condescension with shutting the fuck up. if you don't have anything nice to say, etc. he can be a petty bitch about it, though, especially if it's targeted at one of his people. he tends to be better at speaking up for his friends than himself.
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emerald-amidst-gold · 3 years
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For the OTP ask: 8, 9, 16, 53, and 91 (for this one, it could just be a song you have for them, too) :D
*rubs palms together and giggles* Oooo, I'm loving these questions! I get to show how much of a nerd am I for these two nerds! >:3
8. Who tends to worry the most?
I was going to answer this with 'both equally', but the more I think, the more I realize that Solas is the one who worries the most. XD
I mean, come on. We all know Solas is a natural worry wart. It's in the man's blood, and Fane has a tendency to make his dear wolf's blood pressure rise to fatal heights with the shit he does. PFFT!
Fane is a literal battering ram when it comes to battles (this is based on how I've specced him in-game), and he just charges in without caring if he'll get sliced, diced, or scorched. Fane's illness with magic makes it incredibly difficult for Solas to erect barriers on him, so he has to devise other ways to keep Fane in one piece (nitpicking about his armor, constantly asking, 'Are you certain you are ready?', and begging, 'Please control yourself this time, ma'isenatha.') All of that worry comes from the fact that Solas has seen Fane die, has had to guide him to it, even. Fane doesn't mean to brush off that concern and worry, but when he's embroiled in battle he...loses his senses a bit. Dragons aren't meant to fight, and fighting is what Fane does best in his new life, so he has a hard time balancing bloodlust with merciful restraint.
If Fane gets injured (which he does, but only grazes and the occasional gash), Solas won't let anyone else attend to him, fear gripping his mind, memories of blood soaked crystal and decaying scales cracking his mask and rendering him tortured. When Fane sees that, instead of just seeing the nagging, he'll go docile, go remorseful and will say, 'I'm sorry, my sky. I never meant to-- I only--hn.' Once they talk and wind down though, things get right back on track, but Solas is constantly worrying over his dragon--constantly.
Solas worries about everything with Fane--his scars, his nightmares, his battle with his identity--but battle is where he's the least reserved in it. He doesn't want Fane to have to fight, but he knows they both don't have a choice in the matter.
9. Who is more inclined to be jealous or possessive?
Dragons--naturally possessive, i.e. hoards.
Wolves--naturally protective of those within their pack, i.e. touch member of pack, you get snapped at or even bitten.
Fane and Solas are both highly protective of one another. They just go about it in different ways. Fane's more likely to snap and glower at an infringing form, making it known where they can take their 'affections'. Solas is more reserved, but most can attest that his gaze leaves them shivering and near stone with how cold it is if Fane is randomly touched by an unwanted suitor or harassed by a fawning noble. Obviously, Fane and Solas try to keep the respective beasts at bay, worried the other will think less of them for such childish behavior, but sometimes--sometimes--it's extremely hard to keep a polite mask in place due to memories of harshness and filth.
For example!
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"You're...jealous?", Fane asked, blinking and attempting to piece together what he was feeling now. And he couldn’t. “Of who?”
Solas' eyes fell shut with a rueful chuckle. "Most here. Is that hard to believe? It is petty, I know, but eyes have been upon you since your entrance; each pair a set of daggers. You carried yourself with confidence, with pride, and every single noble within the ballroom responded to your very presence. They whispered, they sought, they undressed." The final word a mixture between a hiss and a growl that was accompanied by a small sneer of disdain before it all relaxed. "My heart knows where your own lies, my dragon, but my mind, too, is being a thorn in my side."
Fane stared down at Solas, shocked and...mesmerized. His sky had been jealous of the looks of fops and prisses? Those who had no chance of ever reaching through to his heart? To his emotions? Those who played with lives as a puppeteer did with strings?
This was...oddly amusing, but only because they were both fools.
Here they were, in the lion’s den, hunting an assassin that threatened to topple an empire, seeking answers to questions they didn’t even know yet, playing a game of macabre chess and deciding who would rise and who would fall, and they were both jealous from nattering nobles who killed for sport or an inconsequential servant girl that would be forgotten in the morn. The ridiculousness nearly made Fane cackle. Was this what court intrigue encompassed? He didn’t see the appeal.
Fane huffed out amusedly. "I love you.", he said, point blank with no room to be denied. “Ar lath ma, ma tarasyl.”, he repeated in Elvhen, lifting a hand to rub at his face and shook his head in disbelief at himself.
Solas’ eyes snapped open at his declaration, a blush stretching across his face and was apparent even in the shadows that embraced them. That swath of delicate pink nearly had Fane cracking, breathing out a steadying sigh through his nose instead. Damn anything that was holy, if poison didn’t kill him, this endearing, foolish elf would. How could he be so blind when responses like that reaffirmed where his sky’s heart lay?
“Sorry, it’s just..”, Fane started before letting out a tiny laugh, massaging his cheekbones in slow circles. “You looked so ashamed by how you felt, even though I just said I felt the same way. If anything, I should feel ashamed because I’m jealous of someone far more innocent than these Orlesian pricks.”
Solas tilted his head, raising an eyebrow. “May I know who you were jealous of?”, he inquired.
Fane let out an airy laugh, kneading his brow with two fingers. “The servant girl that just left not even five minutes ago.”, he admitted, face growing hot with shame and embarrassment. He was such a fool. A pathetic, blind fool.
“The servant--?”, Solas began before letting out a quiet, breathless laugh of his own. “Ma’isenatha, you are aware that we are at court, at the heart of Orlais, yes? Appearing gentile and cordial is but a step in a very specific dance. My reactions to her were equal parts genuine and fluid, and I felt nothing beyond that.”
Fane huffed, letting his hand fall to his side. “I know, but it’s like you said, just the sight of another making reaches for someone you fought for, someone you adore and respect is infuriating. I just got you back and to have it taken away again is--”, he tried to explain, lifting his hand back up to rub at his face again. “Fenhedis lasa. A fucking smile sent my mind spiraling. Ridiculous..”
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Halamshiral was fun! :D
16. Do they enjoy dancing?
Fane is the guy who stands in a dark corner at parties, and glares at everyone who tries to get too close, soooo...no. PFFFT!
However, if it were just he and Solas in their quarters, a light of levity possessing them, then he might be willing to let the other teach him steps that weren't able to be done by massive claws. The Winter Palace is the one time Fane takes the initiative and actively offers Solas his hand for a dance--all grace and poise unlike that of a dragon.
...The finery didn't fall fast enough that night for Solas. *is SLAPPED*
And I like to think Solas secretly yearns for such simple pleasures as a waltz or ginger circle, swaying to the music, time seeming endless once more. He misses what was before, and maybe just a tiny step can make him feel a little less lost. :3
53. Who is the better dancer?
Solas. 100%.
Fane is graceful in battle, able to shift his weight and glide with the flow of blood and chaos. But the more delicate arts--that of dancing? Yeah, no. My boy's prone to step on someone's toes and curse for them because 'A dragon? Dancing at court? Void take me..' Vivienne and Josephine had to let Solas teach Fane how to dance because he was so against the idea that he would lock himself in their quarters and refuse to entertain the two women. Solas has a hard time, but with Leliana's help, they manage to get Fane to see he does have a certain knack for the finer things. *winks*
Honestly, Solas is shocked at the Winter Palace when he sees Fane dancing with the Duchess because...he moved as if from memory, and not the one's of stumbling, cursing, and heavy sighing as legs tripped up and toes were stomped on.
Fane moved like an Evanuris--those attuned to the ancient courts with a charming smile in place to match. *sips my tea* Exquisite~
91. What is their song?
So, if I do like the implications that 'Once We Were' gives, and Solas and Fane like more gentle songs like that.
But me, personally? I adore 'Red Like Roses' from RWBY for these two. It just hits a lot of key points for me about them, but I seriously have to get a playlist together since so many songs make me thing of these two. 'Bad Habits' by Ed Sheeran is one that makes me think of them, too. Mainly Fane, but some parts fit for them together. *urge to compose a playlist intensifies*
Thank you so much for the ask, my friend! These were a lot of fun ones! But then again, all of them are! X3
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1 for Gisele 💜🌹💐
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1. What’s their full name? Why was that chosen? Does it mean anything?
Gisele Surana des Fortemps et Borel is her full legal name. She alternately goes by Gisele Surana or Gisele des Fortemps, for simplicity’s sake.
“Surana” was her Dalish father’s family name, and in universe, I headcanon that it’s Elvhen for “sea born”. That family line can actually be traced back even before the Dales to Arlathan, and was named such because they dwelled on an island and were known for divination and water magic.
As her given name goes, “Gisele” means “pledge or hostage” and it comes from the medieval European practice of sending noble children to be raised in foreign courts. I wanted to give her a deliberately Orlesian name, to reflect her heritage, but it was also intended to be tragically ironic given that she was forcibly taken to be raised in the Circle. It just became kind of hysterical when I put her into FFXIV, given that she ends up a ward of an Ishgardian High House, albeit as an adult. But it’s yet another bit of synchronicity that makes me think she belonged in Eorzea all along, as is the fact that the name just looks to me like it fits the Elezen style of Fake Fantasy French naming conventions more than the Orlesian style in DA. And no, she wasn’t named for the model Bundchen, either. The single L just looked more Correct to me than the double L spelling. Technically both are real French, I was just unable to use the accent grave on PS3 DA:O that Gisele’s name really ought to have.
In my headcanon, wards of the High Houses are permitted under law to append the name of the house to their own, with a specific and unique particule. Alphinaud and Tataru didn’t do this for various reasons, but Gisele did--so, for the entirety of HW and SB, she was Gisele Surana nó Fortemps. And yeah that particule is an homage to Kushiel’s Legacy, because they’re my favorite books and I can. But the reason Gisele used it was because she constantly had to remind people just who the hell she was. Status is everything in Ishgard and that was the one card she held in that regard, during HW. She absolutely played it when and where she could.
Now, the Married Name in all its ridiculous pomposity!
This has to do with all the strict and priggish laws about Ishgardian noble nomenclature and rank. I hc that not only is there no legal prohibition against polyamorous marriage, but the law actually outlines the many, many things required with one, for nobility. And when it comes to nobles, rank is everything. Fortemps is a High House, thus it is always written first. Minor houses like Aymeric’s always go last and merit an “et [House]”.
I should note here that Aymeric took Gisele’s maiden name when they got married, so his is actually Ser Aymeric Surana des Fortemps et Borel. He did it specifically to remind everyone that he’s married to the Warrior of Light, the woman who slayed Nidhogg. For political reasons of course, but he’s also just terribly smug about it.
btw I know damn well it’s not proper French but neither are the frankly weird as shit names most male Elezen NPCs have in this game (starting with my beloved Haurche) so I’m totally fine with making shit up that sounds cool. And holy shit does it sound cool to me, idgaf.
...and I also want to talk a little about the name of her Amaurotine incarnation, since “Azem” was just her title and I’ve mentioned before my distaste for the popular Persephone fanon. Gisele’s was Müllenkamp and of course an homage to Vagrant Story, my favorite obscure JRPG. Lady M. is actually canon in FFXIV, she’s namedropped along with Ashley in one of the EE lore books as being a historical Zodiac Brave. In my headcanon, she’s also known as the Mother of the Kriegstanz, having invented it, and was the founder of Troupe Falsiam. Gisele’s Dancer Job crystal belonged to her, in fact. So I thought it would be a wonderful bit of lore to have the historical Zodiac Brave Lady M. be named for this ancient Amaurotine, similar to how derivatives of “Azem” show up in so many different places and cultures. I also thought it fitting given her association with the Dark, and a fun bit of irony given Azem’s association with the sun.
This also ties into Khedira’s backstory in DA:I because you’ll remember she worshiped Lady M. under the name “Osana”, which in meta terms was part of her name in the French localization of Vagrant Story. Emet even alludes to it in my most recent fic, when he’s telling the Scions about Azem and how sometimes he called her “Osana”, which meant “beautiful”. It’s a nice reciprocal head nod to the idea of Azem’s memory living on in all these disparate cultures, and I am 100% certain that the Kildeans on Source are the ancestors of the Rivaini people in Thedas, on the Seventh. They were also wanderers who traveled a great deal.
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