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#he jokes about being pestilence a lot
diejager · 23 days
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The writing where reader died, what happens if they were revived as a wraith like Ghost? There's probs going to have a lot of fluff and a small angst here and there. But I mostly wanna read your writings!! It's cus' I can't get enough, and kept rereading it all the time
Cw: pain, death, turning, cannibalism, implied torture, implied blood and gore, angst, fluff, hunger, tell me if I missed any. We’re going to forget how you previously died, cuz @bluegiragi gave us more info about wraiths and I just love where the comic is going.
What a cruel joke, irony hitting him in the face the same way his abrupt shift hurt him, an apathetic slap to the face that left him bloody and in shock the way he left Roba on his dying breath. Simon didn’t know what was crueler, the knowledge that you were tortured and buried alive, left to die alone for the sins of his own making and the wrath of another, or that you were left to die a slow and excruciating death after being beaten half to death, expected to lose your resolve solely on the fact that you were a medic, and turned into the monster he was.
Neither your captor nor death had been merciful, much less the reaper, a collector of wandering souls and lost ghosts, waiting their turn to cross the river with a small token for the afterlife. Be it Hermes, the messenger and the carrier of souls, Thanatos the reaper and collector, Anubis - or Inpu, however people called him - the guide, Ankou the shadow, Sgàthach the warrior, or Freyja and Fólkvangr; you weren’t granted the soft embrace of a calm death, but the cruel rejection of it, forced back into life and abandoned by sweet sleep.
He remembered his own, the painful pull of his back, the crazed smoke that filled his mind with a thirst for blood and revenge, the crack and ugly break of his bode, reshaping his body and organs dyed dark, dying and pained. He remembered well the pain of it like it was yesterday, having to crawl out of the shallow grave on his own and discover the carnage he left behind, stained in his and Price’s blood. He was reborn.
And so were you, crying and sobbing, your skin scarred beyond thinking and mind in shambles of broken faith and abandoned affection. He knew first hand how it felt, the burn and agony of it, the hunger and ache that plagued you like an undying pestilence, darker than the one that ripped through Europe in the fourteenth century and more devastating than the Justinian’s. He’d been too late, too slow to help you through the first ripple of shock and fear once you’d quenched your thirst, staunching it like you would a wound. He let you fester in your sorrow and hunger, left you without a guide or caretaker until you ravaged the area, leaving only blood and rubble in your devastation. 
But he’s here now, picking you up from the mess you found yourself in, a storm of smoke and thick black that you hid yourself in, to hide the monster you had become. He might not be proud of who he’s become - much like you - but he grew into it, lived his life as one, and he would be here to help you through the process of it. Where he wished he had a helping hand, you would have his. He would help you with your hunger, the famine that grew the more you left it alone, filling your being with bodies he’d gather up for you to absorb. He would teach you how to control the smoke - the sinews of your being, the consistence of it forming your figure - and build from it, stopping yourself from phasing to and from it, staying as a physical manifestation of it rather than darkness itself. 
Where he felt lost and confused, alone and wishing for a swift end, you wouldn’t, he made sure to stay, to be the pillar of support for you whenever you crashed, his body covering yours to stop you from vanishing in a fit of tears. Where he spent time hating himself, demeaning the cannibalism he became, you wouldn’t, he’d rather send himself to hell than let you think you were the lowest of the low, a human eating another. And where he was cruel to himself when death had renounced him, you wouldn’t, he’d whisper the sweetest words, praises, compliments, affection and guidance, he would make sure you wouldn’t drown alone like he did years ago. He loved you too much to let that happen.
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eilidh-eternal · 4 months
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Having thoughts of the 141 but as the four horsemen of the apocalypse
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Despite being known as the four horseman colloquially within the SAS, none of them got their names because of the way they fight, or for some stupidly brave thing they did on an op. Nope.
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Gaz - Pestilence
Has an infectious smile. Literally no one can resist it. Can get anyone to do anything he asks with his smile and is soooo smug about it. Flashes it to the shy little secretary outside Price’s office when he needs a favor with his paperwork, or to the base gate-guard when he forgets his ID. He has tags on his truck for that but he likes seeing them flustered.
Price - War
Do. Not. Play. Risk. With. Him. Price has been banned from game night because the rest of the team is convinced he cheats. No one has ever beaten him at Risk—hasn’t ever come close to outmaneuvering him. Ghost takes it personally too because he’s known him the longest and still hasn’t figured out how to beat him.
Soap - Famine
Man can eat. The rest of the team knows to tell him dinner starts 15 minutes later than it really does because if you don’t beat him to it there won’t be anything left. None of the poor rookies have figured that out yet though, so Gaz always takes a little extra to share.
Ghost - Death
The jokes. Oh god the jokes. It’s not even that they’re particularly funny. It’s his deadpan delivery. He may not know anything more than cheesy military puns, but they’re good for talking rookies down in the field. Soap will never admit it but it helped a lot when he was alone in Las Almas.
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Gaz
Absolutely abuses his pretty privilege with the lads and ladies. If you think soap is a big flirt? He has nothing on Gaz. This man is disgustingly, sickeningly charming and sweet, even in bed. Is absolutely the type to have you babbling nonsense, clenching down on him as he rolls his hips languidly and murmurs the sweetest praises against your skin.
“Takin’ me so well, luv. Gonna give me one more, yeah? Gonna let me hear those pretty moans?”
Price
Talks you through it. He’s used to talking his team through missions and trainings, and it’s carried over to the bedroom. Especially when you’ve been a brat all day and you’re bent over his knee, counting each strike of his hand against the swell of your ass.
“Only 5 more, don’t get quiet on me now. If I can’t hear you I’ll keep going until you can do it right. That’s what this is for, isn’t it? To teach you to do things the right way?”
Soap
Goes down on you like he’s starving. Absolutely does it for his own pleasure, and is downright nasty about it. Begs you to let him do it, complains that he needs it, that he has to know what you taste like.
Won’t stop whining until you shove his face between your legs to shut him up, and even then he’s sucking and slurping and making lewd sounds, moaning and begging for you to cum on his tongue until he’s had his fill.
Ghost
Listen. He may be an Englishman, but Ghost fucks like the French and you can’t convince me otherwise.
La petite mort.
If he doesn’t leave you limp and tingly all over, he hasn’t finished the job. Will go as many rounds as it takes to see you dumb on his cock, so fucked out your eyes are glazed over and the only name you can remember is his.
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vinxwatches · 5 months
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watching good omen season 1
ep 1 pilot
haven't seen a lot of it, mostly that people like it, that it's made by people people really like and that it's gay (or at least people make it gay) so you know, good pick for me. and i just watched to animations/animatics on youtube with bad endings and bad endings fuck me up, so hopefully this is happier. intro is a fucking banger. also god has a fem voice? nice. accurate skin colour for the earliest humans. not surprised, but appreciated. making fun of theology and great banter? i love it.
ominous picnic basket. oh... actually quite biblically fitting it seems. i REALLY hope they don't expect me to remember these names too well. many of the characters seem fun though.
of course the american politician says bs like "a regular y chromosome son". which i'm sure has not been tested as you 1: don't know the gender yet. 2: phenotype does not denote genotype.
i wonder who and how they'll figure out who has the wrong baby. "i don't recall what horror of history we had a lunch over, but i do recall what we had." the BEST dynamic.
will they even figure out they got the wrong one? ok, i know that working with an actual 5 year old would be a nightmare... but that kid is like 12.
well done making both heaven and hell look like shit. do you want grime overpopulating or empty, liminal, office spaces?
brilliant end of episode 1.
ep 2 the book
damn the forces of hell are so bloody rude and evil. and so many quick jokes.
question: what are the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse supposed to be in christianity? both biblically and in modern belief? they are separate from devils and angels.
i love a witch that also uses an ipad in her rituals.
"sorry, right number" seriously the humour in this show is so brilliant. i really hope the story is able to match it.
ep 3 hard times
a black knight shrugging is way too funny. i love these two. just two old friends helping each other out, it's just that that's diametrically opposing one another. the angel doing some tempting, the demon some miracles. and upper management doesn't care.
awh, they are just so cute together.
excuse me you are playing intro now? 28 minutes in? that's not an intro. that's a bloody intermission!
they really succeed at making heaving seem so extremely bad. extremely wide shot or extreme close-up. it's so incredibly uncomfortable.
the prime minister has a nice flat chested fucker in his bed.... good for him if he's not cheating.
"mend it all"/"end it all" whispers. really neat.
ep 4 saturday morning funtime
of course he was condemned for nothing more then asking questions.
ah, they got rid of pestilence to replace them with pollution. it's a good change, but feels pretty pre 2020.
oh no, i find his death so sad. he had a love, why kill him? i know the apocalypse is coming but still.
i still really hope that the presidents son turns out to be trans to just break the things he said at the start. then again it wouldn't really work as it's not the kids he said it about. idk, i guess i hope of screen son turns out to be trans to spite the person that'll never know... yea i'm holding out hope for something that doesn't matter.
azi being send to heaving is SO bad. his bookshop possibly burning down is emotionally worse. it was going to be the last episode of the day. but i started watching because i couldn't deal with bad endings, so i guess i'll have to watch one more.
ep 5 the doomsday option
Azi going full rogue (finally).
man that's the most obvious cold reading ever.
the guard reads a neil gaymen book. cute.
sir... your car is... more then a little on fire.
ep 6 the very last day of the rest of their lives
are we doing a flash back episode for the last episode of the season?
oh, please let him rebuild the car just like i want the bookshop rebuild?
the way to defeat the end of the world is to believe and stand (and i hope work) for a world that wouldn't end. a bit on the nose but very nice.
and of course with Terry Pratched being involved death is not to be defeated, just not hastened along.
a kid not doing the one thing they were supposed to do.... there's a trans/gay message in there. also That's Just What Kids Do! you wanted an 11 year old to do what they were told? that's the first part of the problem.
for a TV series that's a pretty good satan. oh that is SO clever. kind of time fucking, but not really so long as you never introduce time travel so it's only true from now on. oh, is it a nicer ending then i though? YES IT IS! \o/
it "ends" as it starts: with a garden and an apple. ok, make it more explicit why don't you.
oh, you subtle bastards. i love it. other scene's now make more sense too, oh how i love it.
ok, yea it makes sense people go wild over this as it's really bloody great.
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w0rped-moss · 2 days
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Uuuhhh I know some of these SCPs but not all of them, can you tell me their numbers? Thank you!
funny blob (SCP-999 “The Tickle Monster”): orange slime that loves you and is nice to you
the plague doctor (SCP-049 “The Plague Doctor”): doctor that tries to cure “the pestilence” but usually ends up killing people. I just think he’s neat :D
yet another murder monster (SCP-5031 “Yet Another Murder Monster”): I’m not gonna summarize this one because it’s genuinely one of my favorite pieces of short fiction ever and EVERYONE should read it.
the big fucking scary angel (SCP-001 (Dr. Clef’s Proposal) “The Gate Guardian”): giant Angel with a flaming sword that evaporates you instantly. it guards some kind of gate, presumably to heaven or the garden of Eden or something
long corgi (SCP-2952 “C.O.R.G.I”): a 30,000 kilometer long corgi that functions as a train system for tiny 3 centimeter tall people
the toaster that you can only refer to in the first person (SCP-426 “I am a toaster”): I can only be referred to in the first person. I think I’m a very funny scp, despite the thing about me causing people to harm themselves in order to become more like a toaster, but that’s standard scp bullshit
the regenerating cake (SCP-871 “Self-Replicating Cake”): cake that replicates itself every day and could theoretically end the world
the one that’s Literally Just the reader (SCP-3393 “For Your Eyes Only”): where the reader is the anomaly that attempts to find and alter any record of itself
the lizard that hates you (SCP-682 “Hard to Destroy Reptile”): giant lizard that wants to kill you so bad and can’t die
HONORABLE MENTIONS (the two I couldn’t justify):
SCP-963: ok look I KNOW he’s a meme and he’s earned his reputation as a meme but I think a lot of scp writers lean too hard on Dr Bright as a force of chaos and fuckery when he can actually be a really interesting character if you. do something with him. Like hehe silly man but also the inherent horror of immortality. Like Bright being sillygoofy is great and I think it’s good but sometimes that darker part kinda gets thrown away yknow. I put this down here because aside from its connection to Bright, SCP-963 isn’t super interesting tbh. All the cool things about it are connected to Bright, who tends to be a very hit or miss (and somewhat controversial) character from what I’ve seen.
SCP-021-J “Evil Water Bottle”: I love evil water bottle it makes me giggle every time I see it. the discourse this thing started is legendary. it’s a joke scp but it’s real to me. evil :(
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nihilityart · 1 year
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ALGG AU Headcanons (Gods/Forces of Nature):
(When I refer to ‘species’ I mean only in physical appearence since they’re forces of nature.)
Chaos:
(Species: Literally God/Humanoid)
-His name is Rimuru Tempest (Obviously).
-He is also known as the True Supreme Deity.
-He sees all the gods as his children.
-Depressed as fuck/Inferiority Complex.
- Has basically adopted Perrito.
-The Memelord.
-Has no idea what being subtle means.
-Dad jokes and Puns galore.
Life:
(Species: Raven)
- Her name she uses when is disguise is Metatron.
-The best fashion sense.
-The annoys the hell out of Death.
-Writes poems for some reason, she also participates in contests disguised.
-Rabbles on a lot.
Death:
(Species: Wolf)
-His name when disguised is Az.
-He pretends like he doesn’t care about his family, but he actually does.
-Tsundere.
-Hates Cats (Most of the time).
-Swears in spanish when upset.
-Gets flustered easily, much to his siblings and fathers amusement.
War:
(Species: German Shepard)
-Gets along well with Death.
-Spares with Rimuru often.
-Flirty Type.
-Speaks in german often.
Famine:
(Species: Lynx)
-The type to make rumors of her siblings
-Ironically she’s is a good chef.
-Chats with Life often.
-Good shot with bow.
Pestilence:
(Species: Bug)
-Name when disguised is Terrance (Supposed to sound like Tilence.)
-Deep voice, small body.
-Silent type.
-Doesn’t give one fuck.
-Like scary stories.
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mlobsters · 9 months
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supernatural s6e19 mommy dearest (w. adam glass)
well my whole eve/victoria pedretti mind connection (also this afternoon was crying for a good 20 minutes while painting and rewatching the haunting of hill house) this disabling the exit to the bar and then everyone trying to eat each other reminds me of that church scene in midnight mass (was she even in that one? lol) but way less emotionally fraught. and shorter. adds to the list of gif comparatives of various stuff with spn that i may never get around to because making gifs is tedious work i don't particularly enjoy.
i think i'm delighted to hear licensed music because it's so infrequent now and it's a lot more fun than the score 😬
when i was a kid, i helped my dad fill shotgun shells using something like this (primarily for shooting skeet at a range though he also hunted)
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anyway. dean is using a literal tablespoon to put the phoenix's ashes in these special shells apparently. fear not, a well used shotgun shell reloader in the back there (lee load-all reloader only $79.99 at cabela's!)
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DEAN Why has it always got to be me that makes the call, huh? It's not like Cas lives in my ass. The dude's busy. (Cas appears behind him. Dean turns around, surprised) Cas, get out of my ass!
CAS I was never in your–
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wait hold up is this like that weird wording that i talked about before, out of your ass...
okay this must be a wording thing because they had pestilence use the same and i was very perplexed by the phrasing. SHERIFF MILLS I lose my job over this, I am taking it out of your ass! s5e21 DR. GREEN You mean my brothers. What they did to my brothers. No. The only reasonable thing to do here is to…take it out of their healthy young asses!
that's so strange. anyway. woo they can use more gay innuendo jokes because they have a non-brother dude who we're saying/joking/but actually saying has Feelings for dean to be on the receiving end (har har) 😑
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LENORE I remember. Your hunter friend almost killed me.
SAM Well if it makes you feel any better, uh, he turned into a vampire and I chopped his head off.
DEAN Yeah. With razor wire. Wicked.
dean's so proud
okay so thank fuck they didn't make sam kill another pretty lady that was a monster. we don't need madison 2.0.
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CAS We needed to move this along.
mr funny again
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🧍‍♂️🧍‍♂️
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CAS Something in this town, is, uh, it's affecting me. I assume it's Eve.
DEAN So wait, Mom's making you limp?
CAS Figuratively, yes.
DEAN How?
CAS I don't know, but she is.
DEAN Well, that's great, because without your power, you're basically just a baby in a trenchcoat.
SAM I think you hurt his feelings.
don't be an asshole, dean. this is why i called cas a work friend :p
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my dad travelled a ton for work when i was a kid so he always had a company car. one of them was a chevy caprice classic like this one, but white.
well the baby in the trench coat decapitated someone. good enough for you, dean?
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reflection in the glass just reminding me of how model-pretty jensen's face is
are the kids gonna be monsters and try to eat sam and dean. okay the oldest "kid" has visible stubble and is 24. baby face and short stature and no pesky child actor rules
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CAS We need to find Eve now.
DEAN Yeah. Go. Me and Sam just gotta make a milk run.
CAS We need your help here.
DEAN Hold your water. We'll be back in a few.
CAS Dean, Dean. Millions of lives are at stakes here, not just two. Stay focused.
my face at the "stay focused": 😒 like being told to relax
DEAN Are you kidding?
CAS There's a greater purpose here.
DEAN You know what, I-I'm getting a little sick and tired of the greater purposes, okay? I think what I'd like to do now is save a couple of kids. If you don't mind. We'll catch up.
*schmoopy music*
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oh the brother mush intensifies! big brother tells little brother he should get some rest and they cuddle up to sleep. and sam looks at dean, dean smiles fondly. sam makes his thinking thoughtful face out the window as he (obviously) thinks about how dean took care of him haha
BOBBY They won't take long.
CAS You don't know that. They may find more wayward orphans along the way.
😂
BOBBY Oh, don't get cute.
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CAS Right. Pardon me for highlighting their crippling and dangerous empathetic response with "sarcasm". It was a bad idea – letting them go.
BOBBY Come on. You don't let Sam and Dean Winchester do squat. They do what they gotta. You know that.
haha pissy cas again, a treat. and ain't that the truth, they're gonna do what they want to do, come hell or highwater
oh my god the extended family reunion and the exchanged looks with sam and dean. WE GET IT, GUYS. feeling soft about big brothers taking care of little brothers. saving lives, reuniting families
this is so interesting, in a way, because i had no idea that cas had this darkside situation going on. the thing with the souls, the torturing. i know nothing about his character arc! when i know a lot about sam and dean's
lol so one of the kids was a monster. all gone, the mushy feelings
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EVE You look upset. If it makes you feel any better, Ryan was bound to work on you. Little wayward orphan, like yourselves. There's nothing you can do about it now. So let's talk.
samantha smith's voice (eve as mary here) reminds me of someone in hill house. i think elizabeth reaser (played shirley [also esme in twilight])?
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this whole thing is a lot. glad dean had some amazing forethought to consume some of the ash to make himself poisonous to her eating him LOLL
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cas finally gettin something cool to do
demons *gasp*
so is cas working with crowley? i admit to tuning out a little when eve was talking about the soul battery stealing plan
well i guess that answers that. something weirdly satisfying about crowley scolding cas, what's that about
while i was looking up sam's boots, because i'm a weirdo, this site boldly declared dean winchester smells like some particular fragrance. i thought that was weird to be so specific without a source mentioned and so then i go searching the internet for dean winchester cologne. and ended up some pinterest link that is a youtube video of a con thing with j2 and jackles saying he wears tom ford "wood" (note: it's oud wood, but oud means a type of wood. agarwood wood.) and "it works" and then padalecki asking where he sprays it. i think for my sanity it is best i continue to avoid bts/con related content
like, nothing on the hey i know you front. suddenly started getting exclusively side characters actors i've never seen in anything else
also i guess eve is dead? that was anticlimactic. like a slightly longer than usual monster of the week. i guess we can't be working under the threat of being sent to hell all the time
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riverstardis · 1 year
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best served cold:
cal and ethan walking in with matilda🥺
lmao cal making ethan do rock paper scissors for which of them has to take her to the crèche and ethan’s like “she’s your daughter!”
alicia was late because she was helping connie carry something into her office and lily is not happy about it
connie was suggesting to alicia that she apply for the next sitting of the mcem exams
“all good?” “if by all good you mean has my daughter’s chance of catching any one of a dozen communicable diseases just risen by 200% then yes i’m good” sjskkfkf
lily’s still going on about alicia being late and tells her that a lot can happen in 8 minutes and she wants her to write a reflective review for her portfolio about what can happen in 8 minutes????
charlie goes “you could boil a kettle. in 8 minutes” and then goes to talk to lily
he’s trying to talk to her about what it means to be a mentor and she just starts listing dictionary definitions… ‘tism
the officer that shot jacob is not getting any disciplinary action surprise surprise
now lily’s telling alicia how being her mentor means she can’t always be kind…
connie’s reminding the doctors that alicia is trying to complete her portfolio so if there any ongoing treatments that would benefit an f2 they should help her complete a workplace based assessment
as they’re dispersing cal goes to alicia “sex with ethan” and she’s like “what?” and he goes “well charlie mentioned you wanted a list of things that could happen in 8 minutes” and she’s like 😮 and ethan just laughs and shakes his head and lily’s watching them very clearly jealous that alicia’s now joking around with her friends
it’s funny how alicia barely interacted with cal and ethan in her first stint but then when she comes back she immediately becomes a love interest. although i guess you could just say she took what cal said seriously sjskdkfk
lmaoo ethan’s trying to convince cal that germs are good for babies and he gets charlie to tell him too and cal’s just like “yeah you didn’t see the pestilence in the crèche” sjskdkf
charlie goes “i can’t believe i’m hearing this. cal knight under the thumb of a three month old snot bot by the name of matilda”
ah the two men fighting over the fish
dixie doesn’t want the fish in the ambulance shsjdjdk
alicia struggling with a shoulder reduction because she’s not strong enough for the technique lily wants her to do so she suggests showing her a technique that she used on her orthopaedic rotation. lily is against it and says she’s there to learn from her not the other way round but cal says he’d like to see it. she does it and it doesn’t work at first and lily starts to smile but then she manages it and lily says well done but gives her a dirty look
ash bullied lily when he was her mentor and now she’s passing that down to alicia i guess?
lily telling connie that alicia’s overconfident and she doesn’t think she’s ready for the mcem and connie says she respects her opinion and then they pass alicia and she asks connie if she’d had a chance to look at the dates and connie’s like “let’s not get ahead of ourselves” and alicia’s like “oh but i thought…” and looks so sad :(((((
lmaoo cal’s walking out with matilda and connie walks past and he says to matilda “you know one day you might want shoes like that. so you can stomp over men’s hearts and make them feel weak and stupid. or, you might just wanna ride ponies and live in a treehouse and be daddy’s little girl forever and ever and ever…” he’s getting attached :(((
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crowned-rider-blanc · 4 years
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You get a VIP train section? >:O lucky, I get shoved around every time
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“I am plague itself... they see me and they run in fear.” In other words, people assumed his coughing and generally sickly looks meant he was sick with something contagious and ran away. “I conquer and take my reward... personal space and time to read.” 
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Who Are the Four Horsemen of the Dream SMP Apocalypse?
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Art by: Viktor Vasnetsov
[TW’s: torture, death, murder, manipulation, alcohol, substance abuse, discussions about the end of the world, religion, starvation, violence, implied gambling, blood, alcoholism]
Word Count: 3.5k
INTRODUCTION
Hopefully I finish this before I feel too sleep-deprived, but I’ve been thinking about the presence of horsemen in Quackity’s “My Enemies” stream. These mysterious, hooded figures are quite odd to say the least, and their involvement with Las Nevadas still remains unknown. There has been a debate on whether there were three horsemen or four, and in my opinion, I believe that there are four horsemen present.
Why four? In the first scene, three horsemen arrive at the Dream SMP on a dark and stormy night. They seem to have come from the south, entering Eret’s castle from the back. As they stop to pull their Netherite swords out, air raid sirens are heard from the distance.
Similarly, in the last scene, Quackity is seen placing a book in Wilbur’s memorial before leaving, riding his skeleton horse, Ossium. The scene cuts from first person POV to third, and we see a hooded figure, presumably Quackity because of how both came from the same direction. Additionally, air raid sirens are also heard from a distance.
[MORE UNDER THE CUT!]
I theorize that these two scenes take place at the same time. The prequel scenes only began after we see the sequence of Quackity torturing Dream, and it ends after the flashbacks of Wilbur. We can synthesize that both these scenes are set at the same time, and that these horsemen are going to meet at a certain point on the prime path.
What may suggest that these four horsemen are supposed to be parallels to the biblical four horsemen?
Firstly, seeing the bits they do, Quackity and Schlatt do know a lot of biblical references. Schlatt has compared Tubbo to Jesus once, and Quackity has said many prayers as jokes in the Dream SMP. It’s just… easy to take inspiration from biblical symbols and references, and also, the four horsemen are just very popular figures in history, so you know, why not?
Also, this may also sound RIDICULOUS, but the fact that this stream establishes that Tommy got resurrected three days after he got killed is actually very reminiscent of, well, you guessed it, Jesus Christ. 72 hours is oddly specific, and I don’t think the cc’s made it that way for no reason. Tommy’s parallels to Jesus—which is a VERY funny phrase—could imply that the Dream SMP might draw more parallels to Christianity, and the four horsemen could be another one of these references.
Also, Quackity mentioned how in Las Nevadas, he made four casinos for him and the rest of El Rapids. So, we know four is a number we can associate with Las Nevadas, and there’s a chance Quackity gave these casinos to three other people. Four casinos, four horsemen.
What is the purpose of the four horsemen in the Dream SMP? When the air raid sirens went off, we can think of these four horsemen as the bringer of chaos or danger into the Dream SMP, very reminiscent of the purpose of the original four horsemen in Christianity. We can also connect it to the end of the world, as these four only appear when the world begins to end. This can imply that these four, who are most likely allies of Quackity in Las Nevadas, are somewhat connected to how the Dream SMP will end.
Now, who is who? Admittedly, it is difficult to find a definitive answer on which member represents what horseman, so I’ll try my best considering all the possibilities for each. I’ll add my own ranks on how probable I think they are, but I have to specify that these are subjective- I am not a beacon of truth, y’all.
So let’s get started.
Firstly, I want to discuss who might NOT be a horseman to narrow it down a bit:
Any minors might not be involved. In Sam’s face reveal stream, aka the first stream mentioning Las Nevadas, Quackity and Sam agree they don’t want Tubbo and Tommy to participate in underage gambling. Don’t know if this applies to Ranboo and Fundy (since he might be canonically a child? Who knows), so they get more of a pass, but the clingy duo might not.
The Syndicate. I’d like to think that the Syndicate, as well as Dream, are Quackity’s main foils of the server. As they are the richest and also the most skilled in PVP, Quackity stands no chance against them even with his sharp tongue. As these people are foils against Quackity, and also probably hate his guts, Quackity might not hire them at Las Nevadas. I theorize he’d probably use Dream as a watchdog against the Syndicate, but that’s a theory for another time. 
Additional point about Dream: he’s in prison.
Anyone from Kinoko Kingdom because it’s clear Quackity severed all ties with them.
The Eggpire is half-half. They can possibly join, but also can’t, Quackity can manipulate them into joining only for their inevitable demise, or Quackity wouldn’t wanna associate with them after the explosion incident. They’ll at least get a few passes in some categories, but again, not entirely sure.
CONQUEST
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Also known as Plague, Pestilence, and in some occasions, both Jesus Christ and the Antichrist, Conquest is shown to be riding on a white horse, donning a victor’s crown and a bow. There are many interpretations of Conquest, especially with their ambiguous morality. Some people can perceive them as bad, representing the origin of many wars. Some people claim that they represent pestilence and plague as their arrows are slathered with the infections they want to spread. In some cases, they can also be interpreted as good, as their description is heavily reminiscent of Jesus Christ himself. Others would rebut that there is also a possibility that they might be a fake replica of Jesus created by Satan, thus making them the antichrist.
Sam (8/10)
Sam is my first choice when it comes to Conquest because, firstly, he fits the appearance. He is one of the only people in the Dream SMP who dons a crown, and they also possess a bow which they frequently use. I’d say that Sam as Conquest matches with his ambitions as a member of the Badlands, Pestilence or Plague match with his possible crimson infection, and Antichrist matches with his inability to keep Tommy, the possible Jesus figure on the SMP, alive or safe. 
My only issue is: would Sam be one of the three who arrived at the Dream SMP in the beginning? Sam is very strict with his job as warden, so it is unlikely that he would be seen far from it.
Any of the Eggpire (7/10)
As Conquest is heavily depicted with pestilence or plague, any of the Eggpire may fit under this category. As their goal as the Eggpire is meant to conquer the Dream SMP, this also matches with the goal of Conquest. Additionally, one of the Egg’s weaknesses is Church Prime, something heavily resembling Christianity, so if the Egg is its opposite, we can view the Egg as somewhat of an antichrist. 
I say Punz, Bad, Ponk, and Hannah have a higher chance of being Conquest, while Ant is a solid ‘maybe’. Punz could’ve been the one who blew up the Egg, Bad can be easily persuaded by Quackity, Ponk is one of the only capitalists of the server that may participate in Las Nevadas, and Hannah’s character heavily fits the theme of pestilence when it comes to nature. Additionally, I like to believe that Conquest was the horseman on the skeleton horse (that isn’t Quackity’s), especially since they were holding a dandelion in one shot, something that could be attributed to “pestilence” because a dandelion is a weed. This may imply that Hannah could be part, but because they haven’t interacted much beforehand, we wouldn’t be sure. More insight on Punz: he once mentioned he upholds his duties as mercenary more than he might love the Egg, so there’s a chance Quackity bribed him to join Las Nevadas.
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The main con to this is that: why would the Eggpire willingly join Quackity, or why would the Egg allow them to join Quackity? I can see that Quackity might break their brainwashed states because he has a good way with words, but people like Bad, Ant, and Punz have stated that they’ve been fully controlled by the Egg. Also, Quackity makes it clear he wants to eradicate his enemies, so he might not want any members of the Eggpire to join Las Nevadas… unless there’s a traitor?
Schlatt, Mexican Dream, or Wilbur (6/10)
Heavily connected with winning if you take Manberg, Mexican L’Manberg, or L’Manberg into mind.
Wilbur also has a memorable crossbow, but I don’t know if that counts as a bow.
Any dead characters have a high chance of joining Las Nevadas because of its possible connections to death and the revival system of the SMP.
Other possibilities with short explanations and low but possible odds:
Eret: Has a crown, his betrayal can be seen as a “win”, has Tommy’s bow from the duel. Can be seen as an antichrist figure.
Jack: As he is against Tommy, he can be seen as an antichrist figure. Might be working with Las Nevadas because of his deal with Quackity.
Ranboo: He’s a minor, but he also has a crown and a bow so, maybe? He’s not much of a conqueror or winner, though.
Connor: Didn’t really conquer much, didn’t really win much, he’s just here because of Schlatt, honestly.
WAR
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War is depicted to be holding a raised sword as they ride atop a red horse. After conquest, war is expected to follow, and War is tasked to break any type of peace on earth. He is tasked to kill, or make humans kill each other. The prominence of red symbolizes bloodshed or immense anger, something very present in war. Multiple depictions of War show him with his sword raised upwards, signifying the start of a battle.
Schlatt (9/10)
The man’s literally torn the Dream SMP apart (/lh). This man is always keen on fulfilling his goals, and if it means he’ll have to fulfill them in the most twisted of ways, he will do it. Him winning the Election brought immense conflict in the Dream SMP, and many people were torn apart on which side was the right or wrong side. One of Schlatt’s prominent colors besides blue would be red, as it is the color of his tie and the color of his ghost form’s horns. Red could represent the bloodshed of those who died during the Manberg-Pogtopia conflict, or red can signify the anger Schlatt had for his own cabinet.
Schlatt was also gifted a sword by Dream called “Shclatt”. The sword only holds heavy significance because of how Fundy treasured it like an heirloom.
Wilbur (8/10)
Another good possibility too as Ghostbur was recently seen to admire red a lot more than blue in one of Tommy’s streams. We can also view the creation of L’Manberg as a place that broke the peace in the Dream SMP as they didn’t really NEED to create L’Manberg and declare war, yet, he did. Red can also resemble his anger for what has been done to L’Manberg- everything is pretty self-explanatory, honestly.
My only qualm with Wilbur being one of the horsemen is how we can’t really… tell if he’s in the Dream SMP? He seems to be very clear on the fact that he does NOT want to return, so he might not even be there when the four horsemen became a thing.
Any of the Eggpire (7/10)
Honestly? Same reasoning as the first explanation for the Eggpire. This also applies for why they might not be one of the horsemen.
Do I even need to explain the red part, or do we just all understand that red is literally their brand.
The Eggpire practically breaks peace in the server and is keen on taking control of the entirety of the Dream SMP. The Egg is shown to be ruthless towards anyone, and will even let some of its followers kill people if needed. 
I see Bad as someone who might qualify for this position more because he initiates a lot of the activity in the Eggpire. Same goes for Ant, Punz, and Ponk, but they don’t really take initiative most of the time.
Jack Manifold (4/10)
The only reason I kind of added him here was that he wanted to kill Tommy, but Jack isn’t entirely selfish or peace-breaking. I do think he might play a role in Las Nevadas, especially since if Quackity has access to the nukes, only Jack and Ranboo might be the only two who helped him gain access.
Jack is also… very angry at Tommy. Rightfully so, because he basically surrounded a good portion of his life trying to kill Tommy only for him to realize that that might not be his purpose in life. He blames Tommy for a lot of the loss in the server, so he has a lot of anger, but he has no one to vent it all out to.
Other possibilities with short explanations and low but possible odds:
Eret: Did the first betrayal, but that’s about it. He’s also participated in several wars against others who disagreed with him being the king.
Ranboo: Participated in wars, but is a peacemaker so, y’know.
Fundy: While he does possess Schlatt’s sword, he isn’t much of an initiator of wars as much as he is merely a follower. He has shown that he is quite angry at those who have used him, but the anger has dissipated lately into some sort of sadness/denial.
Connor: He’s mournful that Schlatt, a close friend, has died, but he isn’t really one to be angry. He tried living far away to make his own independent nation, but it didn’t impact much of the story. He also one possessed “Ghostbur’s Stabbing Knife”, which could represent the sword.
FAMINE 
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Famine is seen to be holding a scale (presumably for food) as they ride atop a horse. Famine is also denoted to be the only one speaking, saying “A quart of wheat for a denarius! And three quarts of barley for a denarius! But don’t ruin the oil and the wine!”. This statement basically means that we have to pay a full day’s worth of earnings for a bit of wheat and barley but oil and the wine, something not considered human necessities, can have the same prices. This shows an unfairness when it comes to acquiring basic human necessities. This is especially damaging to the poor as Famine’s statement can possibly make the poor poorer, while the rich remain the same. It is implied that the wider the gap between the poor and the rich, the closer we are to the end of the world.
Fundy (9/10)
This may be a long answer because I am biased towards Fundy, but Niki once stated that Manberg was in some sort of a famine because of the destruction of farms. Because of this, certain citizens have resorted into eating spider eyes from the EXP farm, but it was notable that she was practically calling out Fundy, someone who literally advertised spider eyes to any person he talked to in the Dream SMP.
Fundy is also hinted to be heavily connected to these hooded figures somehow. In his dream, he was chased by one until he slept in a black bed, the color of Famine.
Additionally, in his dream, he held baked potatoes (food) which could be related…? He’s also a libra so… scales…?
He is also a notorious prankster in the Dream SMP and will bargain for anything as long as he profits from it. He’s not the richest by any means, but he loves doing pranks that involve stealing belongings from other people.
Schlatt (8/10)
Similar reason to Fundy as he was the president of Manberg responsible for these famines. Additional note for this is that he also taxed Niki, one of their only food sources in Manberg. 
Schlatt also likes to joke around about being rich, earning money, or being a businessman often, especially with the entire Schlatt coin joke. Connected to Famine’s trait of making the rich richer, possibly?
Famine’s statement can also apply here as it is implied that if humanity doesn’t possess the basic of necessities, they might at least have wine which won’t provide any solutions to humanity’s starvation at all, but it will distract you from your starvation by making you heavily drunk until you finally die. This is very reminiscent of how Schlatt died.
Sam (6/10)
Sam is one of the richest people on the server, matching Famine’s want to keep the rich rich. Only problem here is that Sam is at least very generous and provides a lot of people with resources when needed.
Sam could possibly be connected to Famine because of how he treats Dream in prison. In an attempt to torture Dream, he starves him, cutting his food supply.
Same problem remains with Sam not being able to join whatever the hell the four horsemen are because of his duties as warden.
Any of the Syndicate (1/10)
Only giving an exception here because the Syndicate is exceptionally rich and is more selfish about it than others. Low chances, but Ranboo… might? But it’s still a bit iffy for me. Niki might as well because of her connections to the Manbergian famine, but still on the fence with this one too.
DEATH
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Death is often depicted riding a pale horse, but some variations have called the horse light green. Death does not don a weapon themselves, but they are always accompanied by Hades. Hades in Christianity is the place or state of the departed spirits, meaning Death has contact with those who have died. Sometimes, Death is depicted with a scythe similar to the Grim Reaper, but some say Death has no weapon at all as Death themself is the weapon. Death is not only meant to collect souls and end lives, but they can also represent the end of an era of humanity.
Quackity (10/10)
I would say Quackity can fit any other category, but I am so sure that Quackity is death because of how death and toying with death seems to be one of Quackity’s main themes in the Dream SMP. Quackity, once hesitant about killing others, has been shown to now impulsively want to kill others: first with Techno, then Ranboo, then Dream. 
Quackity will also most likely acquire information about revival on the Dream SMP, so he is in close proximity with Hades, or in the Dream SMP, the Void. This also heavily ties in with the idea that he will make others gamble away their canon lives only for him to resurrect or return their canon lives if they ever successfully gamble it back. 
Quackity is also known to be very powerless in terms of PVP and battle, but you know what he succeeds in? His own words. He is his own weapon that can get him whatever he wants as long as the person he’s up against is in a vulnerable position. 
He is also confirmed to be one to have a skeleton horse, and some depictions of Death’s horse show that it is very corpse-like.
A bloody scythe can also be seen in Quackity’s first lore teaser, and that can be attributed to Death.
Other possibilities with short explanations and low but possible odds:
Schlatt: First owned the revival book but he literally does not know its contents. Fits the “they are their own weapon” trait.
Dream: The only exception I can give. But again, he is literally in prison…?
Wilbur & Mexican Dream: Only putting these two here because they have experienced death. These two fit the “they are their own weapon” category too.
Connor: Wants to revive Schlatt, but that’s it.
CONCLUSION
Honestly, my first conclusion for the four horsemen were Sam/Conquest, Schlatt/War, Fundy/Famine, and Quackity/Death, but I only see Quackity as Death to be something that is HIGHLY possible. For Conquest, I shift between Sam and one of the Eggpire, for War, I shift between Wilbur and Schlatt, and for Famine, I shift between Fundy and Schlatt. Again, no definitive answer, but I’d love to hear your own thoughts on this.
I am very tired, but also remember to reblog if you do enjoy this! Again, would love to hear your own insights, and would appreciate any type of discussion! :D
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Guess what? I’m re-binge-reading Good Omens. And here are some Obervations that I forgot about and some things I might put in fics. Also things I found funny. Basically my dumb commentary on the book.
Crowley actually flees Sister Mary. He doesn’t saunter vaguely away. He flees.
Ligur is rather more thoughtful than he’s portrayed in the show
Anathema likes to read about herself, and her teachers are confused because she spells words like Agnes Nutter
Crowley apologizes
By page 41, it is mentioned at least twice that Aziraphale and Crowley Do Not choose each other’s company for any reason other than that they are constants, that they have an Arrangement, and that they are Friends because being Enemies got boring.
Aziraphale blushes!!!!!!
The Drunk Scene is fuckin hilarious and it’s actually a lot longer than it is in the show, and really you ought to read it. (Book pages 47-50)
My mom (who has a PhD in human development) would probably like to talk to Crowley about upbringing because they seem to agree on how important it is
War has always looked 25, and had a vulture that died of fatty degeneration
Pollution is very cleverly compared to actual pollution
Warlock has Kermit the frog overalls, and Nanny Ashtoreth is described as someone who “advertises unspecified but strangely explicit services in certain magazines”. The tutors are present for about four paragraphs. Warlock is good at math and likes banana flavored bubblegum.
Crowley has a slice of angel cake. Aziraphale eats it. Aziraphale also eats deviled eggs. Hm.
Crowley calls Aziraphale angel casually enough to suggest he’s been doing it for a long time
Some girl at Warlock’s party calls Aziraphale a f*ggot
Crowley glares suspiciously at a gerbil. It is suggested that Hell has, in the past, sent hell-gerbils in place of hellhounds.
“Oh dear,” muttered Aziraphale, not swearing with the practiced ease of one who has spent six thousand years not swearing, and who wasn’t going to start now.
Adam and his friends play in a place called The Pit, where shopping carts go to die, apparently
Crowley is the first one to mention sides in the book!??!? Also Crowley goes on about how humans are more evil than Hell (but he calls himself evil—is he calling himself human already?)
Aziraphale yells “get off the road, you clown!”
“What’s a velvet underground?” *love confession???* “you wouldn’t like it”
Aziraphale is a bit rude to Crowley in the “flashes of love” scene and Crowley is less panicked about it
Crowley glares at the Bentley and it fixes itself
Anathema’s bike is called Phaeton
COULD THEY ACT ANY MORE MARRIED OH MY GOD
Aziraphale speaks like. Like ugh. “FlOUndeR on tHe rOcKS of inEquiTY”
“Thirty seconds later someone shot both of them. With incredible accuracy.” *cuts to a random pleasant story about Mary Hodges* *cuts back to where Aziraphale has fallen into a rhododendron and Crowley licks the paint before he knows it’s paint* dumbasses
Crowley does not slam Aziraphale into the wall
Crowley is actually pretty impatient and doesn’t argue with Aziraphale when he’s worried
“Nothing but dust and fundamentalists” “that was nasty” “sorry, couldn’t help it”
When the radio sings “Beelzebub has a devil put aside for me,” Crowley sings “for me” and then screams
Crowley asks Aziraphale if he’ll keep in touch, and Aziraphale doesn’t say tickety-boo, and then Crowley says “right” and feels very alone
the international express man is small and has glasses, and wears green woolen socks
The sword, which turns out to be Aziraphale’s, is described as having an aura of hatred and menace, which makes me think of how it could’ve gotten that aura from Heaven or from humanity or from War...
In the book Pepper has red hair and freckles, which makes it a cool comparison to War’s appearance and the defeat of War
Adam is excellent at slouching, apparently
Occasionally, as Aziraphale reads the book, he would very nearly swear
“He wouldn’t have said ‘that’s weird’ if a flock of sheep had cycled past playing violins.”
“If you had told him there were children starving in Africa he would’ve been flattered that you’d noticed.”
“...that he was English, that he was intelligent, and that he was gayer than a tree full of monkeys on nitrous oxide.” (151)
Wensleydale watches David Attenborough programs
Shadwell’s voice is described as “the color of an old raincoat” and seems to fake smoking cigarettes
Aziraphales cocoa is moldy and solidified by the time he calls Arthur Young, and has a thin layer of dust on himself too
Newt says that the walls look like nicotine and the floor looks like cigarette ash, and he suspects both are, actually, coated with these substances
Newt looks a bit like Clark Kent, and people seem to like Shadwell for some reason, much to his annoyance.
Aziraphale calls Shadwell “dear boy” on the phone
Agnes Nutter called God a daft old fool #goals
Adam is wayyyy too good at video games
Smelling Anathema’s perfume makes Newt uncomfortable
Adam suggests that Pepper ought to have Russia cause of her red hair (huh)
Anathema and Newt actually have decent conversations?? Like?? Show??? C’mon, man. The show kinda butchered their relationship.
Trees, apparently, make a ‘vvrooooommm’ sound when they grow very fast
“He suspected that Crowley was from the Mafia, or the underworld, although he would have been surprised how right he nearly was.” Shadwell also thought Aziraphale was a Russian spy. Wow, Shadwell.
Aziraphale calls Crowley and actually says “shut up” to him, and then when the answering machine beeps, he tells Crowley to “stop making noises” and then he swears for the first time ever.
The fuckin’ footnote on page 227
“A sleek computer was the sort of thing Crowley felt that the sort of human he tried to be would have.” I like the word choice here. He’s not pretending to be a human, he’s trying to be one. That’s a really important distinction.
It never actually says what Crowley does to his plants.
Crowley’s flat is very white. Wow, Crowley. It just looks dark because of the lighting. Heaven imagery and symbolism out my ears, goddammit.
Why does Hell say Crowley’s name so much when talking to him?? Honestly, I think that’s an intentional dig at his chosen name, using it in their speech to scare him. Wow, Hell. (And wow, Finn, excellent sentence)
Whenever the book says something is shaped like something, it definitely isn’t that thing. “man-shaped” “dog-shaped” “car-shaped”... makes it pretty obvious they aren’t men, dogs, or cars, huh.
The code to Crowley’s safe is 4004. The year he “slithered onto this stupid, marvelous planet”... and the year he met Aziraphale, of course. Denial ain’t just a river in Egypt, Crowley, my dude.
Crowley consideres sticking Hastur into his car until he turns into Freddie Mercury but then decides even he isn’t that cruel
Actual text that I feel like nobody really agrees with: “Madame Tracy was by many yardsticks quite stupid”
“Do I look like I run a bookshop?” “...imagine me out of uniform, sir, and what kind of man would you see before you? Honestly?” “A prat.”
I’m crying. The fucking bookshop fire scene made me fucking cry. I’m literally crying.
“...on all fours in the blazing bookshop, Crowley cursed Aziraphale, and the ineffable plan, and Above, and Below.” “The police and firemen looked at him, saw the expression on his face, and stayed exactly where they were.” “...a crack of thunder so loud it hurt....” *the sound of Finley sobbing into their cat*
The shortest biker in the cafe thing is 6′2, what the fuck
War, Famine, Pollution, and Pop Trivia 1962-1979
“Pollution removed his helmet and shook out his long white hair. He had taken over when Pestilence, muttering about penicillin, had retired in 1936. If only the old boy had known what opportunities the future had held.” HMMMMMMMMMMM
“There were no bitches in Hell either.” I know it’s talking about female dogs, but I rather thought Hell was full of bitches.
“Why are you talking like a poofter?” “Ah. Australia.”
“gOsh, aM i on teLEviSiON?” (Basically Aziraphale gets passionate about stuff and likes to talk).
Crowley is actually an optimist and doesn’t dwell too much on how sucky the world is. He doesn’t go get smashed in a bar. He just finds Aziraphale’s notes in the book and heads to Tadfield. And also, his new pair of sunglasses just... materializes out of his eyes. And he likes to whistle.
“Death and Famine and War and Pollution continued biking to Tadfield. And Grievous Bodily Harm, Cruelty to Animals, Things Not Working Properly Even After You’ve Given Them A Good Thumping But Secretly No Alcohol Lager, and Really Cool People traveled with them.”
“on top of the pile a rather large octopus waved a languid tentacle at them. The sergeant resisted the temptation to wave back.” Honestly dude, if an octopus waved at me I’d wave back.
Wait Agnes was apparently talking to Shadwell and not God when she said yowe daft old foole. I dunno
Madame Tracy: You old silly. Shadwell: 
Aziraphale does not know how to get rid of demons. Canonically. “Had never done other to get rid of demons than to hint to them very strongly that he, Aziraphale, had some work to be getting on with, and wasn’t it getting late? And Crowley always got the hint.”
The road to Hell is paved with frozen door to door salesmen, apparently. The question is where it is, because the demons always seem to just stem out of the ground.
“Heigh ho,” said Anthony Crowley, and just drove anyway. I love this sentence during that scene. 
I bet Hastur gets really mad whenever he hears Aziraphale’s voice from now on
Crowley isn’t breathing the entire burning Bentley scene
ADAM. SAID. “But I reckon you can make your own side” AND WE FUCKIN IGNORED IT?
The temperature above the M25 was simultaneously 700ºC and -140ºC which makes me think of something I read about magenta not being real. The M25 is magenta.
I feel like “Agnes” is just going to become an inside joke between Anathema and Newt at this point, and it will drive Crowley insane because he knows who she is but somehow still doesn’t get the joke.
I’m six inches taller than R.P. Tyler, and apparently according to the back sleeve of the book jacket, I’m very similar in height to Neil Gaiman
R.P. Tyler thought Shadwell was a ventriloquist’s dummy, and then sees cows doing somersaults
“That’s terrific. Much obliged,” said Crowley. — “Funny weather we’re having, isn’t it?” “Is it? I hadn’t noticed.” “Probably because your car is on fire.” .... Also the fact that Crowley looks like a young man which I find interesting.
“The Four Button-Pressers of the Apocalypse”
“Where is Armageddon, anyway?” “I’ve always meant to look that up.” “There’s an Armageddon, Pennsylvania”
Famine is the one that says “that’s one big avocado”, and also, I find it interesting that War, more than once, talks about love. (All is fair in love and war much?)
Anathema threatens the guard with a stick, pretending it’s a gun
Aziraphale, of course, asks Crowley to sort it out because he, Aziraphale, is “the nice one” and then proceeds to sort it out himself. Because of course he does. Because what else could he possibly do.
I just ADORE THIS BOOK OKAY
I’M PROBABLY GOING TO READ IT AGAIN IN A MONTH
Aziraphale and Crowley are so fuckin married I can’t
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fuckyeahgoodomens · 4 years
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Brilliant interview ‘Neil Gaiman in conversation with Nilanjana S. Roy’ ❤
Nilanjana: One of the reasons Terry Pratchett's books was so powerful, was that behind the fun and, you know, the great world building and everything, he was writing with a tremendous anger. And not a despairing anger but an anger that was fuelled by a thirst for change, you know, saying: our world is not in the shape what it should be, discrimination should not be happening the way it is. And you wrote not necessarily with that same searing anger but a lot of what you were writing about from Sandman to American Gods to a lot of the other books was also about looking at injustice, looking at tyranny, looking at freedom, and particularly you’re right from the start whatever you were doing whether it was comics or whether it was novels or short stories or films you’re being preoccupied by the question of who has freedom and who doesn’t, you know, freedom in their lives or freedom in a fantasy world, and do you think this is one of the gifts of fantasy, really? I know that mainstream critics often don’t see this, they think of fantasy as something that is escapist, but it is the oldest form of storytelling that we have.
Neil: You have touched on so many important things in your question, I’m going to miss things out while I answer, but, first of all: Terry Pratchett - absolutely. That anger, a fury, righteous indignation drove Terry, and what also drove him was knowing that one of the things that fantasy does best is taking something that you know, you’ve always seen from this angle and turning it around so you see it from this angle and you’re not seeing the thing that you’re used to, taking reality and allowing you to lose preconceptions. Because you may think that you don’t like this kind of person but actually here’s a story with this kind of person. You may think that the problem with the poor is that they just don’t work hard enough because you’ve worked hard and you’re rich, and then you get Terry writing about boots from the point of view of Vimes, he’s sort of police captain in the city watch, and just thinking about the fact that if you can afford a good pair of boots, that good pair of boots will last you the rest of your life, but if you can’t afford a good pair of boots you’re gonna get a pair of boots with cardboard soles that are gonna wear out after a couple of years and then you have to get another pair of boots and another pair of boots and actually if you’d had the money you would’ve saved a lot money and it’s expensive being poor. And Terry puts it in a way that actually means that you read that and you go ‘oh, that actually changes the way that I’ve viewed powerty, because yes, it’s really expensive being poor, the poor get to pay more for stuff’. Terry would write about racism. Terry would write about things that made him angry in the world. I wish that Terry was alive right now and I wish that he hadn’t had Alzheimers and I wish that his fury and anger could be with us today because I would love to see what he would make of the governments, of the tech world, of the foolishness of people, and I know that he would phrase things in ways that would just change peoples minds because that was part of Terry’s power. When we wrote Good Omens we wrote about stuff that we were upset about or concerned about 31 years ago. And the weirdest thing with Good Omens was that it came out last year as a TV series and we have people asking us if we changed it to become timely because here was stuff about War, here was stuff about Pollution, there was a lot of environmental stuff that was killing whales, it all seemed incredibly timely and we’re like: no, no, no, all of this really timely stuff is 31 years old, it’s just the world has got worse. The one huge thing that we missed of course was we have a joke in Good Omens how Pestilence, Plague has retired in 1936 making way for Pollution...
Nilanjana: And he’s out of retirement, isn’t he?
Neil: Absolutely, out of retirement and making us all realize that it never got away.
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surveillance-0011 · 3 years
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The Basement Plays Smash Bros
Isaac: He’s like 5 so he’s not too good but the others usually go easy on him. Probably plays as Pikachu or Pokemon Trainer, maybe Ness. Plays for fun and w/ items on.
Magdalene: Plays as one of the princesses or one of the cute characters like Jigglypuff. Just here to have a good time. Decent but Smash would never be her first choice of games to play. She also keeps the peace when things get heated.
Eve: Plays to not hurt Isaac’s feelings by refusing. Intentionally loses or fucks around except for one time Azazel was like “I bet you’d suck even if you tried” and she beat him like 3 times in a row. Idk who’d she choose... Maybe Meta Knight or the blue or black Kirby skin?? Samus?? Bayonetta??
Cain: Chooses the “cool” characters a lot. Maybe Cloud? But also would play as Mario and Greninja. Maybe Hero. Spams attacks at first but eventually kind of gets good. He and Isaac usually fight on the same team. Will pick up any item.
Samson: Chooses either one of the Belmonts or Street Fighter characters, maybe Bowser or Ganondorf. Or Terry?? Maybe Lucario. Probably the best at the game, out of the kids at least. Isaac and Cain ask him for help with story mode. Doesn’t like playing with items on. Lowkey has a hard time remembering which Smash ball is the real one.
Eden: Tries out every character. They like Corin, Mewtwo and Pit a lot. Sometimes they’ll just choose random for shits and giggles.
Judas: Not really into it and at first his reaction is like “ugh why are you BABIES playing a BABY GAME it’s like some brutish fighting game but with a bunch of KIDDY characters. Waste of time” but Samson is like “man stfu how about you play around and see for yourself”. He doesn’t admit it but he finds it,,, kinda fun. Plays as Robin.
Lazarus: It’s not his cup of tea and he’s kinda bad but he can have a good time w/ it. It’s not about winning it’s just good to do something with the other kids that’s NOT gonna get them all killed. Plays as Pit or Yoshi, maybe Dr. Mario.
Azazel: Annoying little shit. Like he’s a decent player but his attitude is just... ugh. Salt for days, unironically tells you to get good, spammy and edgeguardy. Plays as Joker or Ridley or both. He does like Dark Pit too tho. Has probably given Isaac a controller that was unplugged/uncharged/off/set as a cpu at least once.
Lilith: Has only played once or twice. Plays as Rosalina or Olimar. Kind of bad at it but she has a good time.
Bethany: Plays as Zelda, maybe Min Min. Skilled at the game, wins a lot. Turns off most items except for the pokeballs and assist trophies, as well as the Smash ball.
Keeper: Plays as Wario, kind of holding out for Waluigi. Not the best at the game. Pretty chill.
Wrath: Melee fanboy, probably. Rage quits if he loses too much in a row. Mains a “high tier” character (bold of you to assume I know who is high tier). Thinks that “It’s just a game” is a weak mindset.
Greed: Plays as King K. Rool, initially for the jokes but it is not a joke anymore.
Siren: Purple inkling or Bayonetta. Decent at the game and v chill. 
Min Min: Plays as Min Min. 
Hornfel: Plays as Fox or Joker half the time. The other time he uses a Sans or Shaggy mii. He’s alright.
Loki: Casual gamer but pretty good at competitive play. Plays as Banjo, maybe?  Or Mario.
Dark One: He’s amazing. Or, at least, amazing at being annoying. His playstyle is the way it is solely so he can Ruin Your Day In Particular. Probably has an Expensive Gamer Setup. Tells you to get good. Plays as Pichu and Pikachu.
Adversary: Video games aren’t usually his thing but Smash is one of those things that’s just fun even if you aren’t super into that stuff. He’s pretty good at it, having learned a lot from observing. He plays as Wolf.
Mom: Probably thinks Smash is the spawn of the devil.
Pestilence: Isn’t too interested in playing and even if he was the controller he uses would have to be sanitized like a million times afterwards. Instead opts to watch like half of it and comment needlessly. “War, you should probably use one of your smash attacks.” “THAT’S WHAT I’VE BEEN DOING DIPSHIT” “No, I mean the one with the ball” “FOR THE LAST FUCKING TIME THERE’S NO SMASH BALL WE PLAY WITHOUT IT”
War: It’s a good thing that he’s not super into video games bc if he was he’d be even worse to deal with. Like Wrath he can get pretty pissy and he gets VERY heated but he doesn’t really throw tantrums over it like Wrath does. Also he’s aware that he’s not super good at the game. His play style is pretty annoying and kinda spammy (whether he does it on purpose or not is debatable, but he probably is). Dislikes playing with items on. Mains one of the sword characters (probably one of the Links).
Death: He’s not really into video games but he catches on to how things work quick and gets pretty good for a casual player. Mains Donkey Kong, for whatever reason. You’d think he’d choose a more “serious” character but nope. The Monkey is his character of choice.
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Hello! Requesting a matchup! Thank you so much in advance!! I hope it isn't too long.
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Fandoms : Black Butler, Death Note & SCP Foundation
Sexual/Romantic Orientation : Poly-Panromantic Asexual
Personality/Personality Type : I'm a total introvert who would not leave the house unless necessary, and I tend to avoid large crowds and people since I have social anxiety. I'm quite distant, cold and awkward when I first meet people but I get really weird ( ahem, shameless. ) and outgoing once I warm up to someone. I'm a worrywart and prone to have pessimistic/intrusive thoughts. My humor is dark and inappropriate and very sexual. My love language are physical affection ( back hugs, cuddles, face peppering, playing with your hands, hand holding, & arm over the shoulder. ), and cheesy/corny flirts.
I like hanging out in a dimly lit bedroom, watching movies, or at an abandoned area ( parking lot, building, etc. ) I enjoy solitude and the dark. Oh! I'm scared of butterflies and allergic to dust.
I tend to be impulsive at times ( mainly concerning money ), and I exhibit extreme mood swings. I'm very affectionate though, and always willing to lend a shoulder or an ear. I also care too much. Apart from that, I'm very sarcastic and a swearing sailor ( I cuss a lot with the people I'm comfortable with. ) Playful, bad memory ( sometimes ), bad at picking up jokes most of the times, and has a tendency to suddenly disappear for a few weeks before returning like nothing happened. I need to recharge to be able to socialize again.
I'm a total sap and an affectionate person to the person I love. I'm the type to wake up every morning and message them, "Good morning, hun!" and I also check up on them if they're feeling well.
3 Main Interests : Horror/Fantasy Films, Anime/Manga/Manhwa, & Arts
3 Things I'd Hate From A Partner : Ignorance, Insensitivity, & Negligence
3 Things I'd Love From A Partner : Understanding, Patience, & Affectionate
NSFW? Yes, please. ( I'm 18 )
Match Ups | Black Butler, Death Note, SCP Foundation (10|3|1)
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i match you with scp-049, misa amane and snake.
note : another document that has given me trouble so apologies if certain things repeat - i have tried to fix it but tumblr has decided it hates me
SCP - 049
SCP - 049
049 is a very logical person who focuses almost entirely on finding a treatment for the pestilence - so he wouldn’t judge you for needing space or leaving for days at a time, all he wants is your comfort and safety (and he doesn’t mind being alone, either). wouldn’t judge you for anything and would be completely understanding of your circumstances, thoughts and such - even if he may need some explanation at times with your more modern interests.
physical affection with 049 would be dependent on patience, boundaries and warnings because of the nature of his anomalies. though it’s only his hands that can hurt you, he’s still hesitant to give random affection and much prefers to agree to set aside time for you both to be affectionate so that he can prepare himself mentally and put on his gloves so that he doesn’t run the risk of hurting you. that being said, he will also be patient with you whenever you need him to be; he’s not a hypocrite, after all.
other notes:
doesn’t make jokes often, so you don’t need to worry about misconstruing his words; he’s always rather blunt and says what he means, rarely ever mincing his words unless he’s trying to avoid endangering himself, his patients or you
would take him a while to adjust to your affection, but once he’s used to it he gets addicted to it; craving your messages and touch even if he’s still hesitant to accept them out of the fear of accidentally hurting you
doesn’t watch films or shows, but he will engage you in conversations about them because he loves how passionate you can be - might encourage you to read some of his favourite books as well if that’s something you would be interested in
can relate to your love of art and will recall his time with some of the more classical artists - reminding you of his age as he reminisces of his time back in europe
shocked when you swear and make sarcastic remarks as it’s simply not something he’s used to hearing so casually; he may even make a point to silence you or punish you if you go too far with your language (he has a level of tolerance but after that you can expect to be in for a rough evening)
doesn’t mind your introversion and will comfortably work in silence as you relax in his cell - he doesn’t talk to others so you won’t have to socialise when you’re with him (he prefers to keep to himself, even during containment breaches)
will always ensure his cell is spotless so that you don’t have to deal with any dust and will carefully dispose of any butterflies that make their way into his cell… though he isn’t sure how he get there
values your playfulness but will sometimes ask you to calm down when he’s working - otherwise he doesn’t care and will encourage you to be cheerful (and he especially loves how playful you can be sharing intimacy as it makes him feel much more comfortable, secure and accepted in the bedroom)
helps you keep journals to help with your poor memory in one way or another - starting off slow and making sure you keep them in obvious places so that you can keep track of as much as possible
if you flirt with him in any way it will throw him off his rhythm and fluster him; but if you’re especially corny/cheesy then he’ll roll his eyes and quickly return the favour with a much more traditional pick up line/compliment
your sexual and dark humour would startle him at first but he’d come to find your comments amusing over time
calls you “darling”, “little bird” and “my love”
Misa Amane; DN
misa absolutely adores how playful you are and is the type of person to giggle at your corny flirting before kissing you on the cheek and responding with another cheesy pick up line. will gladly spend hours laying with you in bed smothering you with affection (kisses, hugs, and so on) until you ask her to stop - she may pout but she always respects your boundaries.
whenever she gets a loving text from you, she’ll go red and grin so widely before responding with even more energy and affection. although she’s more extroverted, she does respect your wants and needs in that she won’t force you to go outside/accompany her to parties and so on - but she would want you to compromise and come out with her on occasion (like how she recognises and respects your need to recharge your social battery as an introvert).
other notes:
is understanding and patient to a fault, but she expects that same energy from you when it comes to her passions and struggles
will bug you into keeping a memory journal or making notes on your phone about important things - she nags out of concern for your memory
is amused by how much you swear, even slightly turned on by it as it seems almost aggressive and dominant to her as a form of language; it’s the same principle with your sarcasm as it’s so different to your more caring demeanour that she’s become accustomed to (and come to crave)
impulsivity is another trait that she shares and thus won’t pick up on - something that leads to a number of spur-of-the-moment dates and such unless you’re actively seeking solitude (especially in darker areas, which she’s too creeped out by to follow you into)
fusses over you when it comes to your fear of butterflies and your dust allergy, even going so far as to modify her home and style to keep everything accessible to you (e.g. consistently dusting and removing any butterfly motifs on her clothes/accessories)
watches horror films with you as an excuse to be affectionate under the guise of fear, but isn’t the most fond of fantasy movies (she doesn’t know why, she just doesn’t like them that much)
also incredibly fond of anime and manga, having a collection from her teenage years that she’d gladly share with you - but she isn’t too familiar with manwa and would probably leave it to you
makes plenty of jokes but will make a point to clarify when she is and isn’t being serious - also shares your love of dark/sexual humour
will call you “baby”, “babe” or your name interchangeably
Snake; BB
snake can relate to your introversion and your cold exterior initially, also craving solitude and finding comfort away from large crowds and such - so he’d be more than patient and respectful about your boundaries as you would be with him. that being said, although it would take him some time to adjust, he would also come to adore your caring side and would crave the affection you offered (even returning it in his own way after a while).
your insistence on sending messages and checking up on him would be what gave him the initial confidence to start initiating intimacy in your relationship. though your impulsivity would be something that would worry the very reserved man and would lead to him fussing over you quietly whenever you’d disappear - but once you explain your reasons to him, he’d understand and only ask that you let him know beforehand when you plan on seeking out solitude.
other notes:
wouldn’t understand your love of these films, shows and graphic novels, but would be happy for you and would allow you to gush about them to him - just don’t expect him to completely share your enthusiasm for them (he just isn’t the type to be energetic generally)
your playfulness would fluster and confuse him somewhat - but it would definitely be appreciated if you continued to be this energetic, playful and caring in the bedroom
would ensure that your room is dust free at all times, even going so far as to keep you away from areas of the manor that could set off your allergy
he would also warn you of any butterflies and shoo them away from you when you’re outside
flustered by your flirting no matter how corny it is - unable to return that energy and only able to go bright red and offer you a crooked smile, unable to meet your eyes
it would take him a while to adjust to your sarcastic remarks and swearing, but he would eventually get used to it and wouldn’t react in the same way he did initially (even repeating some of his snake’s own remarks in response to yours)
doesn’t joke much as he also struggles with telling the difference unless there are very distinct differences in people’s tones; if any of his snakes make jokes, however, he will always clarify for them and for you
feels neutral about your dark/sexual humour, at most getting flustered or confused and asking you to clarify (but he’s never really offended by it)
calls you your name or a very quiet “sweetheart”
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septembersghost · 3 years
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Hi I have a question for you if you don’t mind, can you please tell me what your thoughts are on famine not able to affect Dean? And if you please can put it in the tags so I will be able to find it. But if you don’t wanna talk about no problem sorry to bother you. I’m just having a hard time understanding why he not hungry for anything. Thanks
you’re not a bother at all (and I never mind talking about my boy)! I know there’s been a lot of examination and meta written about this over the past decade, probably much more in-depth and better than what I can even give you right now, and of course there are very different interpretations of what it means, as well (you’re watching Supernatural), but I’m going to tell you the way that I’ve always perceived it, and hope it helps! (apologies ahead of time if I get anything wrong, I just saw S5 in December and my memory should be sharper than this, but I don't trust my foggy brain.)
the first three Horsemen we meet have very simplistic views of humanity. (Death does not to the same extent, because Death is very different from his brethren, as Death is not inherently malicious, in the way that War/Famine/Pestilence are. the others are plagues, Death merely is, as death is an aspect of life). they mentally and physically have the power to affect those around them, but they can’t truly grasp what makes people unique, what makes people tick. thus when we see Famine, he’s triggered what are mainly base instincts - cravings and enticements, which we see exhibited primarily as sex and food (and, in Sam’s case, addiction - demon’s blood). an unquenchable desire for things that people have been denying themselves.
Dean tells us, very straightforwardly:
“Hey, when I want to drink, I drink. When I want sex, I go get it. Same goes for a sandwich or a fight.”
Dean doesn’t intentionally deprive himself of those basic needs (the kids we see in lust and then attacking each other have been “waiting,” Cas doesn’t need to eat but Jimmy’s vessel suddenly is ravenous for meat, Sam is forced into seeking a high with the additional dangerous power we understand that gives him), so Dean tells Cas he’s not well-adjusted, but rather “well-fed.” and then Famine has that infamous speech.
FAMINE: “How you could even walk in my presence?”
DEAN: “Well, I like to think it's because of my strength of character.”
FAMINE: “I disagree. Yes. I see. That's one deep, dark nothing you got there, Dean. Can't fill it, can you? Not with food or drink. Not even with sex.”
DEAN: “Oh, you're so full of crap.”
FAMINE: “Oh, you can smirk and joke and lie to your brother, lie to yourself, but not to me! I can see inside you, Dean. I can see how broken you are, how defeated. You can't win, and you know it. But you just keep fighting. Just keep going through the motions. You're not hungry, Dean, because inside, you're already dead.”
now, personally I believe this is an oversimplification of the situation, but Famine can’t comprehend what Dean has been through or why he’s struggling. keep in mind this is the latter half of S5. Dean’s barely even a year past hell (that's if there was a September in between, otherwise it would be much less than that. the timeline in SPN was a bit elastic). the torture, the suffering, the trauma of that is still weighing heavily on him. the guilt of it, the horror of breaking the first seal. the knowledge of being the Michael sword, the perfect vessel. he has gone through unfathomable torment and is deeply depressed - a theme that continues through to him being essentially suicidal until Sam’s belief in him and his own defiance breaks through in Point of No Return. he’s feeling helpless and hopeless in their effort to stop the apocalypse, and the fight keeps getting harder. his own ethos of having choices and going down swinging is starting to seem hollow, and there’s something in him that’s fractured, that has been since he came back from hell, when the pain was so unbearable that he wished he couldn't feel anything at all.
there have been people who’ve posited that he craves numbness, oblivion, at this point, and I don’t perceive it that way, either - it’s that what he craves is not physical, so Famine has no ability to impact it. Famine can’t provide him hope, or faith, or safety, or love. Famine can’t give him healing or ease his depression/ptsd. Famine can’t fix things and suddenly make everything with Sam right, or put Lucifer back in his cage. anything Dean wants at that point in time is untouchable. what Famine sees as a hole of nothingness, as him being dead inside, is grief and longing that can’t be easily mended or fulfilled. Dean is exhausted and desperate for a relief that can’t be found in a burger or a bed. keep in mind that Dark Side of the Moon is only two episodes later, and we see the remnants of hope he has there that God might give a damn about what’s happening to them burn out:
DEAN: “So he’s just going to sit back and watch the world burn?”
JOSHUA: “I know how important this was to you, Dean. I’m sorry."
DEAN: “Forget it. Just another dead-beat dad with a bunch of excuses, right? I’m used to that. I’ll muddle through.”
JOSHUA: “Except… you don’t know if you can, this time. You can’t kill the Devil, and you’re losing faith, in yourself, your brother, and now this?”
Sam looks at Dean. He’s realizing just how desperate and depressed Dean really is.
JOSHUA: “God was your last hope. I just… I wish I could tell you something different.”
Famine can’t connect him to God, either - there’s nothing Famine can wield against him.
Dean also struggles repeatedly with a loss of agency, long before hell (from the moment he carries Sam out of the fire, this exists), but certainly persisting in a much more suffocating way afterwards, and at the point of My Bloody Valentine, he’s having to consider playing puppet for heaven, giving himself over bodily to an archangel. imagine the scope of that after having been relentlessly tortured in hell, realizing that yet again your body isn’t your own, what’s inflicted upon you may be beyond your control in ways that will be awash with blood (the potential death of millions of innocents in the apocalypse, in this case, something that is anathema to who Dean is, considering four episodes earlier, when asked, “is there a quota? how many people do you have to save?” he replies, “all of them.”). that blackness may feel like an empty space to Famine, but it’s actually a vastness, full of hurt and sublimation and longing. it’s far from the fact that he’s “already dead” - the depth of that depression and those psychological scars certainly can feel like endless nothingness, but we see that it isn’t when Dean reignites his courage and will in the beautiful room with Zachariah. the resilience of Dean’s heart is always so much more than even he often realizes, but he has to get to a place where he’s able to hold onto that inner capacity again.
tl;dr basically, Dean IS hungry, but his hunger isn’t of the body, it’s of the soul, and due to what Dean has specifically experienced, that’s too delicate and too far beyond the comprehension of a being like Famine, who can recognize the soul, but is unable to understand the way Dean's human reactions like guilt and compassion are affecting him, and this leaves him beyond reach.
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Alpha Flight #42 - (Bill Mantlo and David Ross, January 1987)
So we get two terrible bits of writing this time around, one in full bloom and one just seeded.
Let’s start with the immediate bullshit, Heather’s response to Northstar after he manages to shake off Kara’s conditioning again. 
So, as I’ve noted before, most of the early indications we have of Northstar’s sexuality are varying degrees of snark and homophobia from his teammates. And that’s a whole lot of not great. But this one is really beyond the pale. Northstar was kidnapped and sexually assaulted by the person they’re debating letting onto the team, and Heather completely dismisses it as a joke. Not only that, she does so even as she acknowledges that it would have been worse for Northstar because Kara was a woman - an indication that she knows that the assault would potentially be more traumatic for him as a gay man. And she just doesn’t care.
That’s not just “quit the team” territory, that’s “quit the team and put your leader’s head through the wall on the way out”. Scenes like this are one more reason why I maintain that anyone who gives Northstar shit about his attitude toward Alpha Flight has never actually read Alpha Flight.
Then there’s the more infamous element - the cough that marks the start of the aborted storyline that was supposed to culminate in Northstar dying of AIDS. For the sake of redundancy, I’m not going to cover every panel that had Northstar sniffle, cough, and stagger his way to Alpha Flight #50, but since this is the issue where it first rears its head, I am going to give a general overview.
So this goes all the way back to Bill Mantlo taking over the title. Mantlo, who was on The Incredible Hulk at the time, was enthusiastic about taking over the book when John Byrne offered to swap titles. As Mantlo told Amazing Heroes: “I was bowled over [when Byrne called], because this was John’s creation and I’ve had nothing but admiration for the way he’s been handling it. So I said ‘My God, yes!’ And that’s how we decided to switch.” (Amazing Heroes #76, 1985). This enthusiasm also seemed to include a plan to out Northstar. As John Byrne put it in that same interview: “[Bill] is going to try and say the unsayable about Northstar in no uncertain terms; I wish him luck.” 
Outside of that particular point, however, Mantlo seemed to have little interest in the Beaubier twins and had no real direction for them outside of Aurora’s fluctuating powers. From AH #76: 
“So far the least interesting to me are Aurora and Northstar. John played them up the most, and really went heavily into their origins, but he made so many changes to them that it’s almost impossible for me to say what the norm is any more. I’m just giving them a chance to relax and recuperate while I concentrate on the others.” 
Ultimately, Mantlo’s plans to out Northstar were blocked by editorial, and he found writing Jean-Paul under the same limitations Byrne had dealt with to be quite frustrating:
“I always felt Northstar had possibilities if his background could be developed as a logical extension of his character. But I was prevented from doing that because of creative restrictions. Therefore, I had to look at the character as a viable superhero with the reality of his gayness kept largely in the dark. And as a character, his flying and running fast just didn’t make him and integral part of the team without his uniqueness - being gay.” (The Advocate #479, 1987)
 This lead to Mantlo’s decision to reveal Northstar as HIV+ and kill him off. From the same interview: 
“Northstar… could have been made to just vanish or even quit the team, but Mantlo wanted to be true to the character’s integrity. He decided, instead, that Northstar would die of AIDS. It seemed, [Mantlo] says, plausible given the fact that there had been allusions to numerous relationships during his years in the book. ‘It would give me the opportunity to deal with a frightening, sad, controversial topic in a comic book - which I had always understood Marvel was all about,’ he adds.”
Alpha Flight’s editor, Carl Potts, was not on board with this. From the same interview with The Advocate: “We had never openly declared that Northstar was gay. Now we had the only fairly popular Marvel character generally acknowledged as being gay and he was dying of AIDS. You shouldn’t equate one with the other.”
The two came to a compromise on the storyline, wherein Alpha Flight’s foe, Pestilence, would sicken Northstar by quickening the “corruption” in his body, with the disease remaining unnamed and the intent being that Northstar would never realize he had contracted HIV, even as his illness progressed.
Said Mantlo: “It was really AIDS in another guise, and there were still complaints about it being too similar.”
The storyline was ultimately resolved by Mantlo having Loki tell the Beaubier twins that their respective ailments (Jean-Paul’s wasting disease and Jeanne-Marie’s increasing mental instability) were the result of them being half-elves unsuited to life in the mortal realm. Jeanne-Marie used her powers to heal her brother, Jean-Paul got sent off to Asgard to live with the elves, and both were written out of the series for about two years worth of issues. (The twins were eventually brought back by other writers via the expedient explanation of Loki being a lying liar who lies.)
Mantlo was displeased with the compromised ending:
“It’s really a fallback position, since we were precluded from doing anything else… Quite honestly, I think it’s hypocritical and pointless, but that’s comics. You can’t do anything controversial, even if it has integrity, even if it’s honest, even if it’s an attempt to deal with a serious issue affecting thousands of people and likely to affect millions more.” (The Advocate #479, 1987)
Though there were apparently plans to revisit the twins at some point, Mantlo left Alpha Flight before this came about.
So, there’s a bit to unpack here, the biggest point being Mantlo’s reasoning behind trying to kill Northstar off. This was a writer who was plainly frustrated by the limitations being imposed on him, but, at the same time, he also sounds very much like he’d limited himself by reducing Northstar’s character to the sum of his sexuality. Aside from a brief aside in Marvel Fanfare #28, it seemed Northstar’s jam-packed past of childhood trauma, circus life, professional disgrace, and political terrorism held no interest for Mantlo as something that could be used to open the character to wider exploration, nor did even his own ideas for Northstar and Aurora’s otherworldly origins. No, if Northstar couldn’t be outed, he had to die. And if he couldn’t die, he still had to leave the book.
I’ve said before that I admire Mantlo’s integrity in not dropping the subtext related to Northstar’s sexuality, and I hold to that. As a writer, he could have saved himself a massive headache by simply making Northstar straight or immediately dropping him from the roster. So I do believe that Mantlo was in some part sincere in his desire to do something authentic and emotional with his planned storyline for Northstar; he’d stated that Jean-Paul’s sexuality was a unique quality in the comics landscape and seemed to want to make that an open part of the book by whatever means he could. There’s even a case to be made that, for better or for worse, linking Northstar to AIDS and the scrutiny that storyline brought made it that much more difficult to downplay the queer subtext surrounding the character, in turn making it easier for a later writer to make a case for making his homosexuality canon.
However, I have a real hard time scraping up much patience for a straight writer who decided that portraying a semi-closeted character was just too hard, when that very life experience would have been authentic to any number of queer readers, particularly in the middle of the AIDS crisis. I’ve even less patience with the apparent conclusion that the way to remedy that frustration was to kill Northstar instead of finding more subtle ways to advance the character, as Byrne had managed, or even just having him leave the team. The notion that it would have been out of character for Northstar to leave Alpha Flight is absolutely absurd; this is a character who only ever stayed with the team for the sake of his sister. All that would have been required for Jean-Paul to plausibly leave would have been for the writer to stop torturing Jeanne-Marie for an issue or two, or to have her take a bad enough turn that he took her off the team for her own safety and that of others.
Finally, I can’t say I have much faith that Mantlo would have been able to execute his plotline at all well, particularly given how little sympathy he seems to have had for Northstar as a character or how little interest he had in him beyond the controversy of his sexuality. Whatever Mantlo’s intent, it’s hard to believe that we’d have gotten any deathbed emotion that rang true to Northstar as a character or was particularly honest as commentary on society’s treatment of AIDS victims from the same writer who had Northstar’s teammates blow off sexual assault as delivery for a truly nasty homophobic joke and who thought a gay character possibly having had two romantic relationships in his life (I’m assuming this was in reference to Raymonde and Maurice) made him so promiscuous that it was plausible he’d have AIDS. And on top of that, regardless of other motivation, the decision to get rid of Northstar seems to have come as much from Mantlo’s frustration with his editors as any desire for meaningful character development. 
In conclusion, for whatever good I might be able to say about Mantlo, I’m not the least bit sorry that his plans were derailed. He seems to have been, at best, a writer with better intentions than capability when it came to the sensitive subject matter he’d decided to tackle, and it seems for the best that other writers were able to give Northstar the development he couldn’t.
Next Time: The Man You Were
Previous installments of the series can be found here and at AO3.
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CW: mild NSFW(kissing, implied), implied nocon, Lots of swearing, stupid insults, prostitution(?), slave/pet whumpee, creepy/intimate whumper, panic attacks, insinuation of physical abuse, hair pulling, deshumanization;
Sorry if this one is too convoluted, I runned out of meds and the abstinence of them is weird, I just feel my head like it’s full of cotton today. Also, this perspective is trick to write a bit, his world is a little different. Thanks to everyone who is reading these, by the way (◕ܫ◕✿)
Part of:  Same as: one, two, three four and five 
there is this one here as well I just forgot to link 
order is wathever, although maybe reading five before this one would help.
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That man touched his scars, running his fingers all over his back, pressing on the texture of the old whip marks. It took all he had not to turn around and kick his face. Instead, he turned and pulled the man into a kiss, forcing him to at least put his hands somewhere else.
Sometimes, he wished saliva could be venomous. That would be fun.
Snake. Pestilence. Venom, poison! the darkness cries. Well, he has a serpent-soul. It’s tiny, but furious, and hoards gold with the same intent as a dragon would. It’s hiding now. It doesn’t want to be touched especially not by the soul of that old fucker.
The old fucker was followed by a tower-like creature, always too big for the room he was in. It had tentacles that spread just around everything, in search for absolute order and control. On the tower top, it had a glowing, all seeing-eye. Funny how despite appearances, that eye was almost blind, and could not find the serpent.
“Sweetheart, you were wonderful today”
The man smiled, tiny white teeth, some bathed on gold, as he leans in and caresses his cheeks, pulling the dark strains of hair out of his sweaty face.
Impure. Impure. Mess. Sinner.
“I’m glad I made a good impression.” He chuckles “But you… You are wonderful, every single time, darling”.
Wonderful… Yeah. That man is about as interesting as a bottle of hot dog water… But judging by the creature that follows him, at least he is pleased for today. The man kissed his forehead and gets up on his feet, searching for his robes.
Why is it always these type of people? No one else seems to like him. Not even tolerate him. But people like the old fucker like to keep him around, like their own personal freak. He can interact with them just fine, he can manipulate them… But he can barely talk to normal people.
They are bad too. Just like you.
Just like you.
Darkness screams… No. Shut up. I’m not this. I refuse to be like him.
“So, do you remember I said I had a gift for you?”
His snake gingerly puts its head out from the hiding spot, sliding up his body and rolling around his arms.
“How could I forget? You are always so good to me” Pay my bills old fucker. “And your gifts are the best”.
“I hope you like this one. It’s a bit different than the gifts I usually give you. A bit ragged as well… But still a very nice item” He moves out the door. Orfeu assumes it’s on the small office he has connected to the bedroom, but no, he leaves the chambers, closing the door, tower-like monster following. The room looks much more empty without that thing roaming around.
He gets into the bathroom to wash up and get dressed. So many mirror, so many expensive stuff, he thinks to himself, stealing a bit of cologne.
Monter.
Demon.
Impure.
Shut up. Shut up, shut up, shut up- He looks angrily at his own back. He can still feel fingers there, tracing those fucking scars. He wanted to cover them up with tattoos, like he did with some of the others, but a full back tattoo would be. Too. Expensive. He needs to eat. Food money.
He could try and seduce one of the old fucker… But he doubted he could. He and his little friends enjoyed seeing scars on his back…. A reminder that he was inferior maybe.
Inferior.
Show them. Beat them into the ground. Let the darkness come.
“Shut up” he whispers to the mirror. Okay, apply some makeup again, fix the hair… And good to go again. Reptilian eyes stare at him through the mirror, his shadow-like soul sliding in and out of existence.
He goes back to sit on the bed, a bit bored. Why is it taking so long? He just wants to get whatever it is and go back home. This place is disgusting.
Loud noises downstairs, shouting, stuff falling. Oh. The old fucker is fighting with his son, who is the human embodiment of stubbing your toes on a table, with the additional of having the haircut of an Alpaca. 
Something heavy falling down, a muffled scream, steps on the stairway. Office door opens… Something hits the floor. Old fucker is back, with a nasty smile. His soul is disturbed and it doesn’t try to enter de bedroom this time. It stays back on the office.
“Hello again” he smiles, teeth just a bit too sharp.
“…Hm, sweet, tell me you have come to my parties before, haven’t you?”
Yeah of course. And stood by the corners while most of his guests stared at him like he was monster or a piece of meat, at least until the old fucker called him so he could show off his personal little freak.
Freak, freak, those people thought. Uncanny, go away.
Or alternatively, that they needed to have him, to control him, to show who really is the monster.
Joke was on them, because it was a great occasion to pickpocket, these parties.
“Of course I have darling. It’s such an honor to be there!”
The old fucker’s smile is unusual, something like someone making a commercial of toothpaste on gun-point.
Controlling, all-consuming, Danger danger.
“Well, you remember my little songbird?”
…Something the old fucker liked to display even more. The young man was put on a sort of pedestal on the beginning of those parties, and would sing and perform gracefully to the guests, before coming to sit and serve his master. By later hours he was tossed around all the guests, and when the party was over, there wasn’t much left of him anymore.
“Sure. The one with the long white hair” He saw him sometimes, walking around the house, always following the dumb ass son of the old fucker. They never really interacted. “Your son’s pet. What about him?”
“Oh no. It’s not my son’s anymore.”
He frowns, and the old fucker’s grim widens. He gesticulate for Orfeu to follow him into the office, where… The boy is there, shivering, covered in bruises and cuts. Ragged.
Fragile. Ice. Thin, thin ice.
…On no. Hell no. Please please no.
“-You…?”
Master grabs the boy’s hair and pulls him up, as he lets out a faint whimper. The boy’s soul… It’s keeling on the ground, but its arms, painfully long, too broken and mangled… They are strangling the boy right now. He can’t breathe right.
No.
Nononononononononononono.
“He is yours now, darling!”
Fear. Anxiety… Anger?
“Are you… giving me a person?”
Nope nope nope nope nope. Can’t interact. People don’t like me. He’ll be scared. He’ll be terrified. He will see me as monster. Won’t be able to help. No nononon.
…He bites his own cheek so much it draws blood. Calm the fuck down. Keep the façade.
“Oh, no darling” the man chuckles “It’s not a person, it’s a pet. Remember how you told me you wanted some company, but you can’t have animals at home? They are scared of you or something, you said. Well, this one is perfect, I’m sure. He won’t dare run away.”
The man comes closer, dragging the poor boy to his feet, with that nasty, nasty smile. That’s why his controlling tower-soul stood back, keeping those arms and tentacles wrapped around the boy’s soul.
“Little songbird here needs a home. He doesn’t sing anymore… So I don’t really have a use for it. He would be very happy to go with you, wouldn’t you?”
He pulls his hair again, so hard he lets out a whimper. The crooked soul mimics its owner to perfection, the tentacles of the old bastard all over it.
“-Y..Ah-“ he shrieks, shivers, raises his head so the tears don’t roll down.
“…He doesn’t talk much anymore. But then again, dogs don’t either” He sighs “I wanted him to be clean of fresh wounds when you took him, but my son got his hands on him somehow.”
Somehow. The soul shivers. The boy cries.
“Well… I know it’s a bit sudden, but it’s your choice after all. You want him? He can clean, cook, do some stuff for you.”
Say no say no say no say so you can’t do this wtf this is wrong and bad and you can’t take of him you can’t barely take care of yourself it will be worse if you don’t he will be killed or tortured that’s not fair it’s not his fault it wasn’t your fault he deserves better than you he won’t get any chance-
“Of course I want him.”
Panic panic – don’t. Don’t panic. Fuck this.
You wanted someone in the darkness for you, and no one ever came… So be the person. Be there.
“Good!” Old fucker says, too loud “Aren’t you happy, songbird? I won’t have to dispose of you after all”
The poor thing tries to answer but can’t. And he noticed how old fucker moves, about to smack the boy, so, on a swift movement, Orfeu  falls to his knees and cups his hands around the boy’s face. Old fucker crosses his arm instead.
“It’s okay if he can’t answer. I’m a quiet guy, believe it or not!” he chuckles “Is just you… that makes me want to talk so much, dear! I’m only chatty around you, cause you have so many nice things to say…”
…Like bragging about his stocks and finances and complaining about being a failure of a father who raised a monster. The usual.
“Well… That’s good to know, I’m special to you!” old fucker smiles victoriously “If it does happen that the pet sings again, make sure to tell me, I’d like to hear”.
Yeah, sure. Like hell he would.
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