@copperbadge gave me a great idea for a poster, so without further ado
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So “shield the vulnerable, let it pass through the population and emerge in September to bury the dead” became the plan, until mid March 2020 when, according to the evidence given to the Health, and Science and Technology Committee, the UK changed tack and adopted what became known as the “build” strategy: to instead hold the virus at bay with alternating lockdowns while rushing to get vaccines and treatments in place.
The original plan was all public at the time, endorsed and discussed at length by the relevant parties, and then further explained by the publication of SAGE minutes modelling it, but somehow a large part of the media have developed the view that it never happened, and that any references to “herd immunity” refer only to vaccination, or that a “herd immunity plan” means something different from the above and therefore Britain never had one.
There are dozens of official media interviews and press conferences from the time explaining the single peak herd immunity strategy, MPs tweets defending it - are we supposed to think that in each of these interviews, the scientific advisor or government rep kept meaning to say the word “vaccine” at the end of each sentence setting out the plans for herd immunity, but somehow was cut off just in time?
For journalists who are a little bit more sceptical, a second line of defence was produced: the UK didn’t have a herd immunity strategy, it had something else [which on close examination looks exactly like the herd immunity strategy].
We need to remember that while the media see themselves as the guardians against the nation’s slide into fascism and tyranny, most of them attended a press conference about a mass death plan and didn’t really notice.
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the concept of “herd immunity” is nonsensical. a group of people can’t have a collective resistance to a virus because a group is made up of individuals. you either have immunity, or you don’t.
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Just so we are clear, we have never ended a pandemic by allowing people to catch it.
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Hepatitis A Vaccination Required for Herd Immunity in People Experiencing Homelessness or Who Use Drugs
In the U.S., hepatitis A outbreaks are repeatedly affecting people experiencing homelessness or who use drugs. A 2017-19 Kentucky outbreak primarily among these groups resulted in 501 cases, six deaths. Vaccination efforts likely averted 30 hospitalizations and $490K in costs, but UC San Diego and Oxford researchers say more could have been saved if initiated earlier and faster. They determined herd immunity in these populations requires 77 percent vaccinated, underscoring need for outreach.
The study, published October 18, 2021 in Vaccine, was led by Natasha Martin, DPhil, professor at UC San Diego School of Medicine, and Emmanuelle Dankwa and Christl Donnelly, CBE FMedSci FRS, at University of Oxford.
Pictured: A UC San Diego Health employee is vaccinated against hepatitis A during an outbreak in San Diego, Calif. in 2017. Credit: Erik Jepson/UC San Diego Publications
— Heather Buschman, PhD
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A timely reminder that we are truly all in this together. I am not safe until everyone is safe. My healthcare is incomplete until everyone has healthcare.
Healthcare is a human right.
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I have never actually wanted to scream at fucking fifjrkrkrkkt I WILL NOT USE ABLEIST TERMS TO REFER TO THIS BLOBS OF PRIMORDIAL OOZE WITH THE DEDUCTIVE CAPCITY OF A PIECE OF A STRING-
Just... "whatever happened to natural immunity" says Jim the fucking pissant.
IT NEVER FUCKING EXISTED JIM. IF IT DID, MILLIONS WOULDN'T HAVE DIED IN THE BLACK DEATH. MILLIONS OF INDIGENOUS AMERICANS WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN SICK AND DIED FROM DISEASES BROUGHT BY SETTLERS TO THEIR LANDS. THIS IS LITERALLY FUCKING B A S I C D E D U C T I V E R E A S O N I N G
USE YOUR FUCKING BRAIN JIM AND READ A FUCKING SCIENCE PAPER ON "HERD" IMMUNITY YOU FUCKING FURBIE
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This, the Matt Hancock interview in the Spectator, and the observation in The Tribune that the big outsourcing corporations would do quite well if COVID were endemic in the UK, don’t exactly inspire confidence...
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HERD IMMUNITY: Why it's not "immunity"
Herd immunity is a pseudo immunity conferred on those who cannot receive a vaccine via a large enough amount of the "herd" possessing some amount of immunity.
If you have some amount of effective immunity, you become the brick wall the virus runs into and stops, thereby protecting those without it.
It does NOT end the virus. We have successfully erradicated only one virus, the smallpox virus. Polio is still with us. Measles, Mumps and Rubella are too. We are seeing outbreaks again, despite having once had herd immunity.
We have herd immunity to measles in 98% of the US due to a robust vaccination program.
When a case does present, we confirm it, isolate it, contract trace and quarantine exposures. We then find the vaccination hole and initiate remedial vaccination programs locally.
The current estimate for COVID-19 herd immunity to be reached is that approximately 60% of us would need some amount of effective immunity. The two methods for obtaining it are infection or vaccination (initial plus "booster" means 1 month until an effective immune response is achieved).
A public policy of herd immunity would require we allow COVID-19 to spread unimpeded while a vaccination program begins. The safety focus would be on the elderly and groups with high risk due to comorbidity. The lock down would only apply to them for their protection. A particular flaw in that thinking is the preposterous notion that all persons with high risk KNOW they have the risk factor. Most cardiac disease is diagnosed after a health crises, not via surveillance.
Currently, the data suggests no more than 15% to 20% of us possess antibodies. That population includes the incarcerated populations, and nursing home residents who do not circulate among us. There will be no "quick" herd immunity.
There will be a decimated healthcare system.
It takes 5 to 15 years of advanced education to create a fully functional medical professional capable of caring for you. They are dying at rate equal to high risk cases.
Idaho (11/12/20) has a hospital that has had to shutdown its pediatric floor to use for adults with COVID-19. Children are a low risk COVID-19 population. And yet, some will die because of it without ever contracting it.
A deliberate policy of "herd immunity" is tantamount to genocide with an imprecise killing machine.
Herd immunity is a politically correct way or method of saying CULL THE HERD.
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No, “Ebenezer” Trump never learns. He campaigned in Florida on Oct. 12th, 7 days after he left the hospital. He was maskless, as were many in the packed crowd. During the rally he said he was willing to “walk into that audience” and “kiss everyone.”
On October 17th, at another packed, largely maskless rally in Michigan, Trump criticized Michigan’s governor for her pandemic restrictions (despite her recently having been a target of a kidnapping plot) and responded to the crowd’s chant of “lock her up” by saying “lock ‘em all up.”
We also have recently seen headlines like this one in today’s (10.19.20) New York Times:
“White House embraces a declaration from scientists that opposes lockdowns and relies on ‘herd immunity’“
Finally, today (two weeks after he left Walter Reed Medical Center) Trump attacked Dr. Anthony Fauci, our nation’s foremost infectious disease expert.
Tragically, “Ebenezer” Trump never learns!
[This post has been edited, since originally posted. See under the cut for source information for manipulated/ edited photos and quotes.]
Sources: Trump manip A: 01 + 02 + 03; Trump manip B: 01 + 04; Trump manip C: 01 + 05; Ghost of Covid Past (before edits): 01; Ghost of Covid Present manip: 06 * 07 + 01; Ghost of Covid Yet to Come manip: 08 + 09; Sad Ghost (before edits):10; Trump Florida rally photo (before edits): 11; Trump Michigan rally photo (before edits): 12; Fauci photo (before edits); 13; Trump “miracle” quote: aa; Trump “immune” quote: bb; Trump “feeling great” quote: cc; Trump “kissing audience” quote: dd; Trump Michigan rally paraphrase/ quote: ee; WH “herd immunity headline: ff; Trump “Fauci” quote: gg; Illuminated “E” (before edits): hh
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Thread here, article here.
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i’m really happy to hear about people sticking up for their rights and leaving their jobs instead of supporting vaccine mandates. case in point:
seattle is about to loose 200 police officers from the worker vaccine mandate.
also, many firefighters.
medical staff are leaving hospitals in droves as well. many nurses don’t even get flu shots, but you expect me to believe they’re gonna cave in to mandates for the jab? another reason why there are so few medical staff is because many of those who are vaxxed are getting sick, injured, or dying, so they’re not gonna be working, either.
60% of the population in washington state is vaxxed, yet there are reports that it’s some virus variant from the unvaxxed that is causing mass hospitalizations. where’s your “herd immunity” now? come on, put the two together.
don’t quote @ me the psychopathic liar fauci with his “70% of the population needs to be vaxxed to achieve herd immunity” or tell me about how the vaxxed aren’t considered fully vaxxed even after the second dose. that’s moving the goalposts.
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Understanding Herd Immunity
Herd immunity is when enough people in a population have immunity (protection) against a contagious disease such that the disease is unlikely to spread.
As a result, even people who are not vaccinated are at lower risk for infection. The percent of the population that needs to have immunity to reach herd immunity is different for different diseases.
For COVID-19, experts do not yet know what percentage of people would need to be vaccinated to reach herd immunity. However, even before we reach herd immunity, having a high number of people vaccinated will lower the number of people who get sick and are hospitalized or die from COVID-19.
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Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) had an apparent lapse in self-awareness on Monday night, during a Fox News appearance in which he accused congressional Democrats of having a "herd mentality" and only accepting orders from one person.
"It's a weird thing ... There is a herd mentality among congressional Democrats that they obey [Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.)], and their only answer is 'sir, yes sir,'" said Cruz while ignoring the former President Donald Trump-sized elephant in the room.
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This was my favorite question on my final exam lmao
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