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#honestly at this point it's not even the harassment it's the fact yall don't even send me a courtesy email or smthing ahead of time
doukeshi-kun · 10 months
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honestly, imo, the BSD fandom needs more dark content. Like, the premise itself is basically a seinen, and all the characters (with the exception of about 2-3 characters) are all extremely mentally ill or really messed up in the head. The fandom always waters down the characters into either "uwu shy soft boy who can't do anything by themselves", or "sad boi who had sad past :(", and it's kind of a. what. moment. I mean, I understand the appeal, but maybe it's because I like reading fics (and writing for that matter) where the character is as close as it can be to the cannonical character, so usually its kinda a pet peeve of mine esp in the bsd community when everyone hates that kind of content. cause like. the characters themselves are dark. they're not light-hearted characters, they're fucked up for a reason.
so tldr; thank you for giving us the dark content that was very lacking
i think nowadays the fandom doesn't really reduce the characters to one characterization only (except for mori. poor that guy). or maybe it's just me blocking and muting accounts hdgshshs my bsdtwt is quite centred on japanese fanartists and jujutsu kaisen. i don't really find bsdtwt in my timeline unless i follow one or two.
i understand well about your opinion. i think dark content in this fandom are still going around and there are a lot of people who enjoy it. in tumblr and ao3, at least. let's not talk about bsdtwt or bsdtok lol
idk whether dark content in bsd fandom is lacking or not, but probably.. they are? i rarely see dark content fic nowadays here in bsdxreader tumblr. and i dont really go that tag so much anyway😶but here's the thing, some people here are quick to police someone who likes to write or read dark content, going as far to report the fic. you can't even thirst for mori w/o being called a pedo apologist. when yk, block button is there for a function. do these trolls never block people? yall never get followed and bombarded by pornbots? must be so nice bcs there's a lot of pretty ladies liking my posts😔👎
i've seen a few trolls policing writers on what they could write or not. to the point of harassing them in their inbox. like, if you (in general. not YOU as in you, anon. you get me yeh👏) prefer dubcon than noncon, then it's fine! it's your cup of tea. it's your tea, so put and control how many sugar and milk you want in your tea. but that doesn't mean you can police and control and tell people what they should write. if you want to control how much the writer can write, maybe, pay them???💀 the fact that majority of darkcon writers are tagging their fics as 'dark content' or 'dead dove' is already showing that they know the thing they write is very not right/good in real life.
tldr; don't be an idiot and use the block button instead of harassing people
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stormblessed95 · 1 year
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The problem when people say that they’re tkkrs, and they don’t engage in the vile rhetoric they often times spew + they say they love Jimin is the fact that there is no accountability and it makes them complicit to the other shit tkkrs do.
I’m not even defending jkkrs because they have a problem of their own, BUT the difference is that a MAJORITY of people who love and support Jikook call each other out. Whenever we see misinformation being spread we do our best to correct it and snuff it out and we come with facts and receipts. We hold each other accountable so that we make sure Jungkook, Jimin and Tae are humanized and not seen as characters in an AU.
So even though you - anon wants us to believe that tkkrs are nice and pro Jimin, the reality is that because your breed continues to be toxic, continues to spread lies, continues to harass people when the narrative doesn’t fit to your advantage, and continues to fetishize and I want to make it clear IT IS fetishizing, that even though they’re “nice” you’re also all silent.
The fact that your solution is to block and report but not try to correct the narrative not only proves the way you are complicit but it shows that looking away from the problem IS why tkkrs are so toxic.
And I’ve been an ARMY for YEARS, YEARS, and no matter how nice you tell me tkkrs are at the end of the day, as you said, anon, it’s used as a way to “de-stress” and ship fictional/non-fictional couples together, it invalidates the point you’re trying to make because TAE, JUNGKOOK AND JIMIN are real people. People that are living in an ANTI-LGBTQIA+ society that doesn’t accept them. So for you it might be merely shipping them but for actual QUEER PEOPLE our lives are not a fucking way for you to live bi-curiously or join in the “camaraderie” as you so eloquently put it.
And the fact that you bring up the point that people just want to claim Jk or invalidate him to fit a narrative is precisely the issue. JUNGKOOK is a real person, not someone we covet or “ship” with Jimin, he isn’t a stand in for us to fuel our fantasies, he is a person THAT WE listen to and respect and support.
Miss me with that bs that some of you are nice, esp when the nice ones I’ve met in my 5/6 years of being an ARMY talk and think about Tae in inappropriate ways AND in fact do use Jungkook as way to fantasize some weird ass shit, because the moment that Jungkook does something to show you all that DOESNT FIT YOUR NARRATIVE, you all throw him under the bus. Not a single tkkr has been speaking out about the mistreatment that JK’s getting rn, and you want us to believe you see him as a person and that you’re nice?. Go and talk about important shit, not about how it’s a flip of a coin to trust tkkrs……..
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Stop coming to our safe spaces and taking to us, leave us the fuck alone, why can’t you all just stay in your lane and not interact with us?!. TF???!
Because it's you... and I love you. And I agree with you and everything here. Imma post it even though I closed the topic. @chikooritajjk summed it up nicely. Imma just also add that it's not a flip of a coin to just trust anyone honestly. The amount of people I trust on this app I can count on one hand. And yall know who you are 🥰 I've yet to find a tkkr that ships taekook and doesn't let the harmful narratives spread around continue to be spread around. It's kinda like how people say "its not all men" when women talk about our experiences in the world and when the #/me too movement was happening. "It's not all tkkrs" gives the same energy. I understand where everyone is coming from here, but it is what it is. If it's not you, then you don't need to defend tkkrs or shipping. If you aren't doing these things and you are standing up against it or trying to call people out, then you don't need to get upset. No one then is talking about YOU. But if you aren't doing those things, then you are part of the problem too. And that goes for all shippers too.
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thefandomenchantress · 4 months
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I don't know about yall, but I hate the way these mother fuckers completely ignored when Ace said this.
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LIKE THIS WAS HIM kinda OPENING UP TO HIS CLASSMATES ABOUT HIMSELF AND IT JUST GETS DISREGARDED
I mean, it is just like Levi said. "Still, that in no way warrants what you said to Nico". Which I agree, nothing justifies what he did to Nico but holy shit this man is living by a string of thread. HE JUST ALMOST EXPERIENCED DEATH. Give him some slack oh my god
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AND THANK YOU ACE FOR SAYING THIS. BECAUSE I COULD'VE SWORN ONLY A FEW EPISODES AGO, LEVI WAS THREATENING TO STRANGLE ACE. I love Levi but that was so hypocritical of him
Hmmm. I’ve got mixed feelings about this. While what Ace said isn’t a justification for being mean to Nico, it is sort of an explanation. But I can’t really make myself mad at the other characters for ‘disregarding’ this, when…I’m afraid I don’t quite know what you mean by that? Like I said, it doesn’t really justify Ace’s behavior.
Honestly, it does sort of mystify me that no one tried to put a stop to the bullying sooner, besides Hu (and arguably David but he did it with bad intentions). But Hu only defends Nico after they threaten to kill Ace, and in my opinion someone should’ve tried to put a stop to Ace’s bullying way sooner. Some people had a lot going on (like J, who was too busy being harassed by Arturo), but some people willingly look the other way. Like Charles and Whit, who could do something, but Whit is conflict avoidant and Charles doesn’t give a shit. Which is kinda interesting, it shows his character still has room to grow. But all this isn’t really related to what you’re saying, so I’ll save that rant for a different time.
Also, I’m not sure how Ace almost dying is relevant to this moment you pointed out, since it happened before he almost died, as seen by the fact his neck isn’t bandaged in your screenshot.
But I’m not trying to argue with you, I promise! This is a kinda complex issue. I guess I’m just confused on what you mean by ‘disregarding’ since I don’t know how they would’ve…regarded it, so to speak? They acknowledge what he said, and also acknowledge it’s not really a good excuse for what he did.
I will say them not acknowledging Ace’s comments about feeling like he’s treated like a dumbass 24/7 and and that one time he mentioned he was at least a little suicidal (in a sorta cryptic way, to be fair) being ignored kinda made me go ‘Oh, so no one’s going to say anything about that…? Alright, I guess we’re just going to move on’. But I’ve never really gotten too annoyed at other characters for it, just intrigued by this whole situation.
Then again, that might be because I’m really bad at hating characters, haha. Even when a character does something completely unforgivable the worst I’ll feel about them is just ‘meh’. But I think how other characters respond to Ace, for the most part, seems sorta reasonable?
We the audience have more time to analyze his behavior and the cause of it, but no one besides Veronika is gonna do that much psychoanalysis, so I’m sure most of them think he’s just being a douchebag. After all, only some hear the comment in your ask (Rose and Levi, I think)? Only Veronika and Nico heard his rant about being treated like a dumbass. And only Teruko, Levi, and Eden heard his rant after being almost murdered. Most characters only have one of the many mental breakdowns we’ve seen from him. Well, besides Teruko but she’s being all ‘I don’t care even though I totally do’ right now (Teruko’s great though don’t get me wrong). So most characters, if not all, don’t have all the information the audience does, making their treatment of him a lot more forgivable in my eyes.
I don’t know. Like I said, a complex issue, I suppose.
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yawnzzznnn · 7 months
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Skipper, listen to me, you are growing fine and humble enough to admit when you are wrong . That's one thing I can honestly say about you not everyone can do that
At this point ignore them you dont let anyone I mean ANYONE try to bully you in telling you how you should feel or run YOUR PAGE. it's yours for a reason okay? I'm proud of you regardless
And to however the hell this anon is I think your just as immature for going back and forth with someone you don't even know matter fact someone that's a minor actually when all she did was state her opinion. IF U DONT LIKE IT U MAY PASS IT, that's all.
It amazes me how some of yall on this app don't do nothing but read and it's like yall still can't read If your that bothered go somewhere else leave her alone please and thank you. Go enjoy your day stop harassing people u don't know
Ok I get it I don't have to respond but I just know they acting like they run the world after typing out that shit and I gotta burst they bubble but that was the last response I'm not hince the "XOXO Yawn 💋" imma delete whatever they say cuz I'm honestly tired and they can't even use words properly! I'm not arrogant or defensive I'm petty 💅
But no srsly imma ignore them now cuz like I gotta help my friend he was in a school shooting a bit ago I ain't got time for this I need to be Able to respond to him when I can. I just wish they weren't anonymous so I can block them I don't understand why they don't block me and I don't think I was being rude in the first message it's just how I am 😭
Also I legit thought you forgot that nickname i thought i was off free
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Anto, I'm calling you out for the fake ass mother fucker you are.
Just a reminder, on April 17th, Anto apologized for his involvement. It was a garbage apology, but that's besides the point:
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When I called him out on his garbage and insincere apology, he insisted to me directly that he was being sincere, and I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt. I went out of my way to personally view him as the lesser of the evils presented in the list of creators involved in the doxxing.
Come today, I find out about this:
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Towards the bottom, what do you see? Anto sims LIKING a post that misgenders Bucky by implying he is Mack, when he literally proved that Mack and him aren't the same person, as well as accusing Bucky of SUICIDE BAITING... You know what Anto. You can kindly sit and spin on a cactus you insincere prick. The sad part is, by giving this post approval, you have enabled the trolls who harassed someone to rock fucking bottom. That someone is Bucky, and Bucky is someone who despite not agreeing with paywalls loved YOUR CONTENT so much that they paid for your Patreon. They even messaged you expressing their love for your content. And this is how you repay the people who supported you? By enabling their harassers? By validating this transphobia and disgusting claims of suicide baiting? YOU DELETED THAT INSTAGRAM POST LIKE IT WAS NOTHING AFTER DEFENDING IT SO HARD AND THEN PRETENDED LIKE NOTHING HAPPENED, AND THEN YOU PULL THIS?
Fuck you Anto. You don't get to beg people to see your side of things and to forgive you for this garbage nor do you get to ask for consideration of your mental health when you clearly don't give a damn about anyone elses, because you've proven that you ARENT ACTUALLY SORRY to the people you victimized in the most vile way possible, and the sad part is, you're just as bad if not worse than the trolls. You chose to watch all of this going on from the shadows going "Woe is me! My anxiety!" expecting everyone to be sympathetic to your mental health. You know what's fucking anxiety inducing? Having your work contacted for the 4th time over fucking Sims 4 Custom Content. Mack knows all about that one, but she's the bully, right? You know what else is anxiety inducing? Having to to try and find the right words to say to talk someone down from harming themselves after they've been degraded over and over to the point they broke. Trying to fight back the words of vile individuals who insisted on jabbing deeper deeper, again, all because of bickering over CUSTOM CONTENT FOR SIMS 4. Something myself and Mack had attempted to do the best of our abilities to no fucking avail. And finally, you want another example of something really anxiety inducing? Getting harassed consistently by burner accounts seeking to get past anonymous asks, being misgendered and told you aren't a real person when you have a mental illness that makes you believe that you literally do not exist. Being called a scammer because you tried to save one of your dogs and pay for the other's euthanasia and cremation costs because it couldn't be saved all the while being told that your emotional support animals should be stripped away from you because of that unfortunate fact. Something Bucky experienced. Oh, but I'm sorry, you expect everyone else to give a shit about your mental health when you can't show some damn empathy and speak out against those blogs.
Honestly, yeah, I'm being a real bitch right now and I don't give a fuck, I'm fucking bitter and angry. I don't understand how someone can be so money hungry that they'll happily enable the harassment of a human being let alone the fact that said human being was somone who respected that individual. At this point, I don’t give a shit about the mental health of those who enable this disgusting behavior. I'm tired of the mental health excuse. Give me some reasons to truly give a fuck when yall mother fuckers don't give a damn who you hurt. That much is obvious. Either way. I just felt like I should point out how much of a two faced snake Anto is.
I don't imagine I need to say this, but I will because it's the DECENT EMPATHETIC THING TO DO. Don't attack or harass any of the troll accounts or any of the creators for that matter. If you want to criticize the creators, that's one thing, but do NOT harass them. And as for troll accounts. Just block them.
For now, here's a list of Troll accounts to go through and block. I will post new lists when I find more as to not give yall a list of accounts you may have already blocked. If you're a frequent detractor, I'd use this list. Don't let this people bully you off of tumblr. Defend yourselves.
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futuregws · 2 years
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My biggest issue with the whole issue with THAT girl isn’t that she interacts with fandom, it’s the fact that the character is very likely a minor while the other is around 20 and she is pushing this ship! If the character was in fact an adult and she was doing this I doubt anyone would care! People are like ohhhh X actor reads fanfic, x actor interacts with fan content, it’s different because she’s a woman… no it’s not!
And if you bring this up anywhere on social media, here comes a hive of fans of said character and by extension actor who they feel the need to protect, arguing with you otherwise. Just a few days ago someone mentioned this and it was PARAGRAPHS of why they were wrong and on Twitter too! The same few people are being weird af to people bringing up concerns about a MINOr and an adult. No matter what she’s still a minor and he’s an adult! It’s disapointing to see minors and people around 20 and younger saying how uncomfortable they are with this ship and people OLDER than 21 coming into their mentions to Argue and harass them for this ship…
I am 24 and I have been on tumblr for 10 years and it’s disapointing to see so many older fans act this way! We’re supposed to make things safe for younger fans instead yall shipping p*dophilia? Then we’ll need to talk about how some fans sound vaguely homophobic about the other ship because they argue the other ship is “threatened”. And all this for a character there for 3 scenes then died… if she wasn’t white and conventionally attractive women this wouldn’t be happening lmfao. A lot of people are projecting on the ship and the fans of it have become so rabid,
It's ridiculous that's what it is, and they are CONSTANTLY trying to prove that the character is 18, she's not there's literally a website that posts a lot of reliable stuff about multiple fandoms and they literally say that she is 17, and Eddie is 19/20 and there's even one site that says he could be 21, and honestly I don't give a shit that it's "only two/three years" the age difference is not the point here its the fact that she is still underage this age difference would be okay if she was 18+ but not like this and fans better not come here saying that "she was turning 18 in 84 days" that doesn't matter at the time that yall are shipping them she's 17, it's gross, but to be honest, you wanna ship them?? Fine, but stop trying to argue about her age and change it to your benefit
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thislittlekumquat · 9 months
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"majority of the fandom is sebaciel shippers or sebaciel agnostics"
God I wish :/ That might have been true a decade or so ago around the time of S1/S2 when we were very early in the manga, but I think the majority of the fandom (or at least, those active online) is antis these days, honestly. A lot of the previously popular creators for the ship were harassed off of tumblr entirely ages ago, and several that left the fandom entirely rather than continue to suffer harassment. There are a few blogs still around that are (or at least a few years ago, were) extremely rabid antis that regularly sent hate and death threats that are still very popular. TBH the twitter/reddit community looks even more skewed. Kinda unfortunate, since there's tons of other fanwork for this show that I love that isn't Sebaciel, that I'd interact with a lot more if I could. I genuinely don't care if people don't ship it like I do (and honestly, I even love content where they straight up hate each other lmao, enemies to super angsty lovers is my bread and butter so that actually heightens the appeal for me personally?) but I definitely care if they openly call me a pedophile predator for it or interact with people that do. Maybe I've spent too much time in the trenches, so to speak, but I think I have probably half the fandom blocked at this point.
I'm so sorry that you've had to watch the fandom wither like that. I have been in a totally different part of fandom for the last decade so I didn't witness it firsthand, but the bummer is that I am not surprised in the slightest to hear that it happened. Like to me it's always made sense that people shipped them - it doesn't capture my interest but it's something I tooootally see how you'd arrive there from the canon. As you say, that antagonism is THERE! And like, people ship all sorts of fucked up shit in other series, and the source material is all sorts of fucked up in a ton of other ways, it's sort of like. THIS is the thing yall are worried about? Really???? Not the fact that Ciel is CANONICALLY DOOMED BY THE NARRATIVE? Or that Ciel and Lizzie are cousins? Also like so many of us stan Grell who IS CANONICALLY JACK THE RIPPER, FOR GOD'S SAKE. They're all cartoon characters, who cares!!! Idk my entire point with the post was that I genuinely think the anti attitude is the problem here. And I hope that came across! I very casually block people now for having silly opinions which doesn't bother me EXCEPT as you've pointed out, you realize that it's hard to find other chill folks sometimes 🫠🫠🫠 anyways thanks for sharing your experience, I hope you find a little bit of fandom joy this week for your troubles 🫂
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one weird thing about being the target of mass harassment over a long period time is how random it becomes. there are things you can predict—old smear campaigns popping back up because you’ve spoken out about a controversial issue, or because you’ve recently been particularly active and visible. that is always a risk; I’ve learned to mentally prepare myself for an uptick in harassment before starting new projects or posting about certain issues.
But. But. a lot of times it has nothing to do with your actions. which means you can’t predict it, you can’t prepare yourself. you are always on edge. because you can do everything right, or nothing at all (and the first will piss off way more people than you would expect), but once trolls have set their sights on you, there is nothing you can do to prevent being targeted again and again, years down the line, for the same old shit. this is how harassment culture works—it enables the harassers, ad nauseam. because at the end of the day, it’s about other people’s actions, other people’s whims. you can tread on a tightrope, anxious not to step on toes or invite discourse, but eventually someone who already hates you will remember you exist, and will take the opportunity to drag you through the same traumatic shitshow you’ve been through before, as many times as they are allowed.
and I wish I had a solution to share. but I don’t. this will keep happening and happening for as long as we, as a community, enable it.
we live in an age of constant misinformation and normalized harassment. please be careful how you treat other social media users, be careful what accusations you believe, and remember there is a human being on the other side of the screen. read critically and with doubt.
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ainomica · 4 years
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(1/2) The recent enemies to lovers discourse on twitter has made me realize how performative shipping has become, even among Reylos. I'm so sick of people projecting their personal beliefs on what factually constitutes the 'right' way to ship EtL. I see a lot of "enemies to lovers is only okay if they're both equals/don't hurt each other/the man never hurts the woman/both are same sex/the villain is redeemed/the villain gets punished/blahblahblah." Shipping for fun is dying out, apparently.
(2/2) It frustrates me when Reylos buy into the "oh, EtL is ONLY valid when it's THIS not THAT" discourse because it's hypocritical as hell. Going by the definition of enemies, any ship that has two characters actively hostile and trying to hurt each other is perfectly fine to ship. Doesn't matter how 'Woke' an enemies to lovers ship is, they're all fictional. It's fine. Not every EtL ship will appeal to everyone, that's okay too, but that doesn't mean one is more 'right' to ship than the other.
Hello Nonny
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Its like the interrogation discourse wank all over again and in a increasingly performative fandom getting exposed to mainstream media and social justice discourse on internet, i guess it was bound to happen that even an inherently spicy ship needs to apologize for its very nature.
Newsflash to yall but enemies to lovers not only imply a lot of physical harm to the other but also inherent power imbalance for no small fact that one would defeat the other in this ship and hence would have power over the other at some point irrespective of gender . It doesn’t matter if its gay or het, the former won’t make it any less problematic and people like it for being problematic to begin with! why should anyone apologize for its very nature?? or liking certain fictional things??We all know already antis and dumbasses don’t really care or mean a thing when they talk about protecting women and children. If they did they would have realized throwing the word “abuse” and “pedophilia” like that makes it more prone to be taken not seriously and ignore real cases of actual harm. Which happened since anti ratlos did shelter a real rapist among themselves and even this morning i got a sexual harassment message itself , which probably was sent by someone who thinks they are above my sinful soul and their sin is cancelled by mine. I could be raped and beaten to death and its valid because “a ship a wrong ship” and they still feel they are above me..
Honestly, ignore or throw random words back at people who think they can dictate what people like based on their fictional preference because words mean nothing anymore anyway. Don’t play the game on their terms, its a trap. They are slowly making you feel ashamed for what you like and making it possible that this social pressure keep existing where you constantly apologize and make  excuses to not Bully us, letting them off the hook and making them believe they have a cause to act the way they do.They don’t. 
PS: Oh and whoever you were Nonny and your cowardly friends who watch my blog?? yeah, i may be shipping abuse ship but at least i am not harming anyone real but you send a sexual assault threat to a real person and its liable to be taken to real cyber criminal court..so should i go ahead??I assure you our cyber criminal system is very good here.
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