WHY JUDE DIDNT AGREE TO SAVE MADOC IN TSH
I think i just figured this shit out
so remember oak said jude refused to save madoc and thats why hes on a quest?
well now do yall remember the scene where holly oh-so-subtly described how a single bud was blooming on mab's remains...
yep yep yep
JUDE IS PREGNANT THAT'S WHY SHE REFUSED TO SAVE MADOC. OR ELSE IT WOULD BE WAYY SURPRISING THAT OUR MURDER QUEEN DIDNT GO TO CHECK ON IT HERSELF.
This is a theory of course but i dont see any other potential so as for why jude refused to save madoc.
she didnt go cuz she didnt want to put her kid in any danger.
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The Folk of the Air Spoilers!!!
Be aware before you read, ty <3
I'm the biggest Cardan apologizer y'all ever know.
Did he laugh when he "exiled" Jude? Yes, indeed he did. BUT IT WAS CUZ HE WAS NERVOUS.
Like, just imagine you're trying to impress your gorgeous badass intelligent and brilliant wife. And you choose a riddle. Like, a simple riddle that works as a joke. And she's so so so smart, you are wondering if it'll actually work.
LIKE, DUDE
I'd be nervous as well. Bet he was like "please sound smart, please sound like some great shit that seems difficult but is actually pretty easy."
I'M 100% SURE THAT'S WHAT HE WAS THINKING.
Anyways, I'm never getting over 'bout Jude not getting it (and how my best friend said I was wrong when I told her Jude could actually forgive herself)
Disclaimer: I'm aware that Jude felt betrayed and enraged atm, specially if we take into account all past circumstances. Just lemme be.
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My thoughts on Jude & Cardan becoming parents in the stolen heir duology!
I’m aware this topic has become a huge debate in the fandom. Everyone has their own opinions on this. But i’d like to share my ideas of how holly black would most likely handle this trope in her writing.
I see both sides of the debate, and i’m here to clear things up….hopefully!
First of all, i really don’t think holly would write pregnant jude.
HEAR ME OUT!! 🏃🏻🏃🏻
If anything, i see holly black writing a time skip to jude and cardans kids grown up, as teenagers. the pregnancy trope isn’t something i see holly writing at all. There wouldn’t be a lot of action if jude were pregnant.
I have lots of questions after reading the stolen heir, but no matter what happens in the second book (The prisoners throne” coming out 2024) i hope jude and cardan stay monarchs of Elfhame. no matter what.
And that being said…jude and cardan would HAVE to have children, who can grow up and eventually take their place as the new monarch of elfhame. it has to happen eventually, but it doesn’t have to happen in “The prisoners throne”
Holly already confirmed that she will be writing a lot more books that will be set in faerie/elfhame. Meaning new characters will be introduced, or side characters will have their own story. If jude DOES become pregnant, it will probably only be mentioned from someone else’s point of view. But it wouldn’t be shown.
In conclusion, i don’t believe holly would write pregnant Jude. specially in the second book of the stolen heir. It would be rushed. Jude and cardan would have been together romantically for 8 years, (TSE time period from TQON)and if they decided to keep ruling elfhame, then there would be no rush for them to have kids.
⚠️ THE STOLEN HEIR SPOILERS ⚠️
"The Folk adore Cardan, and they're terrified of my sister, two excellent things. I hope they rule Elfhame for a thousand years and then pass it down to one of a dozen offspring."
- Oak (The Stolen Heir)
Since the folk of the air series, we have known that Oak has never wanted to rule Elfhame. It’s clear that he hasn’t changed his mind, and he definitely won’t. He even wants jude and cardan to have kids, and believes he doesn’t have to be involved.
We know that Faerie women struggle to get pregnant. Since Jude is mortal, she can easily carry. Jude can restore the greenbrair family line. I don’t think holly would throw that opportunity away. So i definitely see jude and cardan being parents, but probably 20-50 or 100 years from now (in the world of elfhame obviously, as long as jude stays in faerie, she will live forever) theres absolutely no rush!
With the events that have taken place in the end of the stolen heir 🏃🏻💀…i’m scared and excited to see what holly black will do with oak and suren.
I don’t think people should worry about the pregnancy trope. I also know that people don’t want jude and cardan to be parents because it would be “out of character for jude & cardan”
let me remind you, in the folk of the air series, jude and cardan are teenagers/young adults, from the cruel prince, to HTKOELTHS. The stolen heir duology, is an 8 year time skip from TQON. MEANING, that jude and cardan will be more mature than they used to be. They’re ADULTS now. I heard someone say that they heard Holly black say during TSH tour that ‘she still has no idea how to write adult cardan.’
Meaning that holly is going to write adult jude and cardan. Giving us a more mature version of them. this doesn’t mean cardan won’t be his usual self, he’s going to keep being funny, and clever, but in a more mature way.
I’m excited to see what holly black does with the characters in the prisoners throne. i hope she can keep jude and cardan monarch of elfhame. But no matter what Holly decides to do, i will always support 🫡 she is a genius after all.
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Cardan: I think about Jude constantly, even when I shouldn’t be. I think about her while I’m with my girlfriend and I dream about her at night. She is the only real thing in a world of ghosts.
Also Cardan: Haha look at her. Such a dumb bitch. Imagine wasting your time on a lame mortal. Couldn’t be me, I’m simply built different.
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I guess I’m just now processing this line because wow that’s real sad. Here’s Cardan, swimming with the person he thinks he loves, who’s promised to take her with him when she returns home, and he hates it. He feels trapped and panics but he tells himself he’ll have to get used to it because he feels like this thing with Nicasia is all he has to cling to.
“Give this up and you’ll have nothing”
Notable too is the fact that this chapter ends by telling us that while he was underwater he was thinking about Jude. I always figured that Jude represents earth and Nicasia represents water, for fairly obvious reasons. Nicasia is beautiful, dangerous, powerful, and changeable. Impossible to hold onto. Jude is stubborn, strong, solid and real. She keeps him grounded even before the two idiots realize they’re in love.
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