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absolutebl · 1 month

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This Week in BL - People of Earth we have VERSE rep in 2 Thai BLs! Amazeballs!

Organized, in each category, with ones I'm enjoying most at the top.

March 2024 Wk 3

Ongoing Series - Thai

Deep Night (Thurs iQiyi) ep 2 of 8 (10?) - Everyone seems to be a bit of a player and I’m not mad about it. It’s nice to see high-grade flirting, and I really love how very gay the leads feel. Not BL gay. Actual gay. We shall see how it goes, I suspect we are in "messy gay" territory in which case, I predict utter carnage and that this show will drop ranks precipitously for me. But right now? Of all the Thai BLs airing, I'm enjoying this the most. How bizarre.

I like the side couple (thrupple?) too, despite the prat fall kiss and possible cheating. They very pretty:

To Be Continued (Thai C3 Thailand grey) ep 4 of 8 - oh dear NO honeychild, face masks are gross tasting!

Rule no 966 of the BL world. He’s never asleep.

Argh Achi wants Ji so bad. Nice mutual kiss tho, despite Ji's baggage. I guess Ji knew what would happen if Achi stayed? But why is he so scared? Just deeply closeted? The backstory is very high school achy and I feel like it explained Achi but not Ji. And the crying in the movie was lovely, so we totally understand Achi's but Ji is just messed up and confused? I admit to being a bit confused too. Why is Ji the one so angry?

On a totally different aside, I really like how the set dressing is done in Ji’s apartment. It looks lived in and not staged. Super rare in Thai BL. I'm reminded of Ai & Pond's dorm room in Love By Chance, which actually looked like a real college dorm.

City of Stars (Fri iQIYI) ep 7 of 12 - Why is it always the pulps that actually trot out the best communication, conversation, consent, and healthy relationships? Yes I'm still wincing over the truly bad acting but I’m enjoying their good relationship. The sex scene was sweet and tender, although the likelihood of rose petals getting stuck places wigs me out. (Flower petals + lube = terrible combination. Just FYI.)

ALL PRAISE VERSE REP! And a bottom who owns it! Yay!

1000 Years Old ep 5 of 12 - How ridiculously colorful and flirty they all are. There is nothing at all vampire about this show. I’m a bit bored by the restaurant plot but I'm tuning in for the bonkers approach to goth. How dare they be so cheerful with my precious emo youth, but also, how very Thai pulp of them.

Ongoing Series - Not Thai

Unknown (Taiwan Tues Youku YouTube) ep 4 of 11 - oh it’s SO GOOD. Reading the yaoi and crying. COME ON TAIWAN HAVE MERCY. The red wrapping of the hands (red thread, yes yes we get it). The boy who doesn’t want to box for so many reasons. Not the least of which is how unpleasant it is to spar with a lover.

This is easily the best BL currently airing and it is going to hurt us. But I don't care. I love it.

AntiReset (Taiwan Fri Viki/Gaga) eps 8 of 10 - This show is dangerously cute and I’m scared for everyone involved, including me.

Love is Better the Second Time Around AKA Koi wo Suru nara Nidome ga Joto (Japan Gaga) ep 2 of 6 - Poor baby thrown in all willynilly amongst a pack of queeny bitchy gay intellectuals. I'd be lost too. It's the worse kind of fight, one you have to philosophize your way out of.

Although I Love You and You AKA Sukiyanen Kedo Do Yaro ka (Japan Thurs Gaga) ep 10fin - They are extremely adorable and it was a very good ending - mature, adult, and bittersweet. I liked it a lot. But I didn’t love it the way I wanted to.

The promise of this show, younger cook courts older divorced office worker, should have been my catnip. I mean if someone pitched this to me in an elevator I would have downloaded it by the second storey. Unfortunately, it did not exactly fulfill that promise, not in the way I'd hoped. Did I still enjoy the ride, yes, but I feel just a little let down. 8/10

My Strawberry Film (Japan Thurs Gaga) eps 5 of 8 - Honestly now I’m just shipping the two girls getting together. Frankly, I really don't like this show, and normally I'd DNF but there's only a few eps left and nothing else is airing rn.

It's done, ready to binge, maybe I'll finally get to it this weekend

What Did You Eat Yesterday Season 2 AKA Kinou Nani Tabeta? Season 2 (Japan Gaga) 10 eps

The Servant and the Young Master (Vietnam YouTube)

Began Beginning (Myanmar YouTube) - A Burmese BL? @heretherebedork vouched for it, so I will watch eventually.

It's airing but...

Time the series (Tue Gaga/YT) 10 eps - it's finished now, I dropped it at ep 4. Should I bother?

Close Friend Season 3: Soju Bomb! (Thai ViuTV grey) 10 eps - I'm exhausted by this franchise and the variety pack style of BL. If there is a particularly good couple (or installment) I might watch it, but I'm letting others decide for me.

A Secretly Love (Thai WeTV grey) 10 eps - I watched the first ep but grey is too much work for this inferior of a show. I may pick up and binge if it gets distribution but for now, it gets a DNF from me. KimCop might have held this crap together but Kim without Cop? No thank you.

Lady Boy Friends (Thai WeTV grey) 16 eps - reminds me a bit too much of Diary of Tootsies only high school, not my thing. DNF unless it turns a corner and is truly amazing for some reason.

Gossip

The choreo controversy - Deep Night vs OnlyOneOf. Look, like a musical rift, or a styling photoshoot, there are no new ideas in choreo, I feel like Madonna did this pose too, a long time ago. Certainly someone in the 80s. Or whatever. Anygay, it's an ironic thing to see a Thai BL being called out by a gay-branded Kpop group when both are exploiting eroticized homosexuality for commercial profit... just saying. (HOW DID WE GET HERE?) Not to mention that BOTH are ALSO exploiting the kink community. We live in interesting times, BLabies. In the end, it's a good publicity stunt all round. And I think Nine knows exactly what he's doing (and why he is doing it). Finally: Drama drama drama around coreo? That is V gay boys. Fun fun fun, carry on everyone.

Strike a pose.

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Next Week Looks Like This:

Starting

3/21 Two Worlds (Thai IQIYI) 10 eps - One of those "he's dead Jim so time travel" thingames staring MaxNat. I'm over this concept but Asia flipping loves it and I do enjoy MaxNat. Phupha (Gun) and Khram (Nat) love each other but Phupha is murdered. Then Khram is pulled to a parallel world where, 12 years ago, Khram and Tai (Max) were in love. However, Khram was killed by Tai’s dad. Now Tai finds alter-Khram apparently alive. But then there is ALSO an alter-Phupha to deal with. (Phupha is played by Gun Thanawat who was Khom, the repressed butler bodyguard from Unforgotten Night. We like this, we scared of the love triangle aspect.)

Upcoming BLs for 2024 are listed here. This list is not kept updated, so please leave a comment if you know something new or RP with additions.

Forgive me a moment of industry noodling?

Have ya noticed that it's slender pickings right now but it shouldn't be? This is not the mid summer slump nor end of year lull. We should be getting some heavy hitters on first quarter release. (Side eyes GMMTV. Perhaps those painful Japanese acquisitions were a bigger issue than any of us realized?)

Anygay, IMHO, Thailand's BL bubble has popped and sponsor money is drying up. This is my shocked face:

Look, the 2021-2023 level of release and growth (exponential) was never gonna be sustainable, so I'm not surprised. I suspect that in 2024 Thailand will actually produce fewer BLs than 2023 (73, 64 in 2022, and 40 in 2021).

I know I'm sticking my neck out predicting any film industry but... I have seen this kinda thing before and it just *feels* like shrinkage. Thai BL's load has been shot, my peeps. (Not to be crass or anything.)

Oh, don't worry you pretty head about it, it's not going away, just getting less prolific.

Don't we all in our old age?

THIS WEEK’S BEST MOMENTS

My favorite trope, sniff him!

Queen. (both Deep Night)

King. (City of Stars)

Verse rep verse rep verse rep!!! Can you see me doing a little dance this side of the screen?

(Last weeks summation)

Streaming services are listed by how I'm (usually) watch, which is with a USA based IP, and often offset by a day because time zones are too much work.

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callmegaith · 4 months

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Hey! I'm just wondering where you got the idea to start shipping Dale and David? (Cool art btw!) As far as I know they've met thru Birthday but are they related in any other way?

Oh boy. Okay. This is gonna be all over the place.

So birthday, you get the letter from David saying he's sorry and all that. Yeah. Dale and David are connected, we just don't know how yet. Something important to David was for whatever reason in Dale's home.

But really the appeal just comes from what if scenarios. Both Dale and David are victims of their circumstances. David made Dale the person he is. He set him on the path of the lake, doom pretty much. And seeing he was remorseful for that in his letter, I like to imagine a world where David is doing his best to undo the damage he's done....

And so Down the Rabbit Hole is born. (If you haven't read it, I feel like it explores my idea for their dynamic better than my rambly post can. It's a comic series I'm working on exploring Dale and David's relationship during David's own paradox journey)

To me they are like two people chasing each other for opposite reasons. David just wants forgiveness so he can let go of the guilt of what he has done to Dale, and Dale wants peace of mind and an end to the trauma that the events of that day caused him... Or revenge even.

The potential of those two just... Meeting again, talking, and David finally having the chance to clear everything up to Dale can make for something so beautifully tragic. There's a story to be told here, not necessarily romantic. But a good tragic story about healing and moving on which is what I want for both of them more than anything. David has turned his back on the Lake. He has betrayed his gods and ran away unlike the rest of the souls at the bottom of the lake, and Jakob wanted to hunt him down and kill him for that. He's been up to something we don't know since then and that eventually led him to Dale. And I just imagine a world where the two of them become the characters that break the cycle of the Lake.

It's the star crossed trope really. With all the jumping around and changing pasts and futures in this game, the idea of them being doomed in every loop, every universe, every recreation. It's appealing to me. Just two people who are broken, running circles around one another but never being able to reach out to finally break the loop. And so they're stuck, never being able to move on while desperately wanting to. And there's just something so MWAH, chef kiss, about the tragedy of them.

So TLDR??? Makebelieve and doomed yaoi :)

It's really hard to explain and I do it better with art than words. I'm not very good with explaining things so I'm sorry if this made 0 sense. But hope it answered your question well enough or that at least Down the Rabbit Hole gave you a better idea than this xD (tho Down the Rabbit Hole is not a ship comic, it just shows the dynamic and idea I have for them)

Generally, the ideas I have for them aren't specifically romantic. I just like dudes kissing :)

(which I never even drew them doing except for a meme)

So yeah, gay, not gay, I just want the two of them to meet again and reconcile.

#asks!#thanks for writing!#ship: jackalope #comic: DTRH #actual TLDR:#its the appeal of the tragedy of them #RL: lore and theories

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lmskitty · 3 months

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Hi again......If you don't mind, can I ask, what are your top 10 (or top 7) favorite media (can be books/ manga/ anime/movies/tv series)? Why do you love them? Sorry if you've answered this question before......Thanks....

Hi!!!

Tricky!

1. Jujutsu Kaisen

2. Gorillaz

3. Sailor Moon

4. Outlast

5. The Last Binding Series by Freya Marske

6. Neon Genesis Evangelion

7. FMA Brotherhood

8. The Magnus Archives

9. Fake (manga series)

10. Digimon

1. It brought me joy and fandom and friendship again and made me feel like myself after a very long time. I know the narrative can be traumatic but it also has these incredible moments that just feel you with awe (like Todo turning up to help Yuji fight or seeing Gojo do hollow purple for the first time) it just reminded me of everything I love about anime.

2. My first real fandom, the first thing I wrote proper fanfiction for. The lore and the music and the animation just amazed me when I saw it when I was 11 and I've not been happy with decisions they've made recently (overpriced merch in a cost of living crisis, NFTs to celebrate Plastic Beach?!?) I'll still always love them and be excited for new content.

3. First anime love, first time seeing a relationship with two women helping me to identify as bi (now I'd say pan) I grew up believing that to be a strong woman you had to disregard femininity and seeing Usagi be the strongest with her bunny drawings and her focus on friendship and love just rewired my brain.

4. I love horror, I was brought up with it but for a very long time nothing has scared me and I found horror media repetitive. Outlast genuinely scared me and I was SO happy and I love reading the character notes and comics.

5. I've talked about this series a bunch but A Marvellous Light was the first book I'd read in years that made me cry and just stayed in my head for ages. Everything I'd loved about harry potter but done properly.

6. I was at a sleepover at a friend's and someone stuck this on and everyone was talking and I was just glued to the screen because what the FUCK WAS THIS?!?!? I've watched it since with my husband and it still hits me so hard every time. It's such a powerful portrayal of depression and nihilism and how relationships can fuck you up. It's beautiful and I think it's one of the best anime's of all time.

7. The opposite of neon Genesis lol. Love and family and forgiveness and what it means to sacrifice for the people you care about. Devoured brotherhood with my husband and we were both in tears by the end of it. I'd also been told I couldn't have kids and we had struggled with a miscarriage and Izumi and Sig just hit me so hard. (I have a bub now tho it came out ok in the end) but the characters still feel so real and there's so many amazing moments.

8. I listened to all of this and played Minecraft with my husband till like 6 am on weekends. We would discuss at length our theories and it just holds a special place in my heart. It's perfect horror and John and Martin's relationship just means a lot to me. I related a LOT to Martin and loved the series and I've super been enjoying the Magnus Protocol too! Also that first fucking recording of Nikola Orsinov?!?!? We both sat still staring at each other genuinely freaked the fuck out and we still quote it at each other! "I mean, you can if you really want to, but you’re not going to like it." CHILLS EVERY FUCKING TIME!!!

9. I read a lot of BL manga with my friends (*old lady voice* back in my day we called it Yaoi!!!) And so many of them had terrible tropes and big hands. This was the first one I ever read that I still adore that had an amazing love story and plot. It was revolutionary to see an LGBTQ story not just about them being gay or coming out but it had real detective cases and murders etc and I still wish we could get a tv show of it.

10. When Gojo talked about Digimon I fell even further in love. It's the fucking best. I wanted to be Mimi so BAD as a kid my mum made me a Halloween costume of her and I thought I was so cool. My next tattoo is gonna be Lilymon. I grew up with it in the dub and it established my sense of humour for better or worse. The Digimon film is still my comfort film of choice. Matt was such a big crush I had when I was little and I wrote little stories about being one of the digidestined.

Those are my top 10!!!!

#gorillaz #jujutsu kaisen #the magnus archives #tma podcast #fake the manga #fake!#digimon #outlast #fma brotherhood #neon genesis evangelion #sailor moon

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ihateliterature · 3 months

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The worst thing you could be in aspec online communities is an Oseman hater, bc ppl keep recommending them to everyone and their grandma and my problems are:

1. I'm an adult. In my last year of college. With a job. I can't even explain how disinterested I am in teenage drama. I haven't watched or read highschool romances since I was a preteen. Some adults like reading and watching media for younger audiences, and that's all right, many don't tho. Highschool romances are not a universal subgenre

2. If I wanted to read highschool romances I would read bl manga, or manwha, yk, from the authors that actually do it right and don't claim their works are anything more than they are

The stereotypes are 100% funnier and more engaging when the author is consciously playing into them and I respect that

3. I hate when works are described as "good representation of [minority]", I don't read or watch things for representation, I do it because they are good. If minorities being in it is the first thing that comes to mind when you describe a piece of media I doubt there's anything actually good about it. Things that hinge completely on representation are oftentimes little more than blatant bait

4. Oseman repeatedly disrespected bl authors and fans, which created a fandom around her works known for violent transphobia, homophobia and anti-asian racism. All kinds of ppl I don't want to associate myself with.

Also the fucking disrespect to just throw the older authors under the bus. Shoujo girlies drawing yaoi men with giant hands and the gay men founding and helping in shoujo publications and creating under pseudonyms walked so that Oseman and their boring slice of life webcomic could run

#aromantic #fandom

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liannaflower · 1 year

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What are your top 5 books?

Ah well....this is a hard question and for a sad reason. I have no idea😂😅

Most of my so called fave books were my favourite years ago, so it's hard to tell if I still like them. For example Percy Jackson books, specifically the first one because ahh ✨Ares✨ of course, but I recently wanted to reread it again and couldn't even get to reaching camp.

Well anyways, what I know for sure is The Wolf Den by Elodie Harper. (By the way these aren't in order.) It was a unique read and I surprisingly liked it. I also read the next part and had high hopes for it but it flopped. 🥺 The covers are so pretty tho. It had a great vibe (this almost sounds like a red flag) and it basically follows the lives of prostitutes in Pompeii few years before the eruption.

Another one for sure is The song of Achilles (Madeline Miller) and while I usually don't like (khm I hate them) retellings this one was cute. It's been on my fave list for like 8 years and even rereading hasn't diminished it.

Then Prince's Gambit by C. S. Pacat from the captive prince trilogy and oh my gods. This has everything. The ancient Greece vibes, the enemies to lovers, the gayness😂😂😂(and the sex , the torture, the betrayals etc) I found this series by total accident and thank gods I did. I adore it.

Here I would normally mention one of the Pjo books (either 1st or 4th) but I can't do so now, and then I would mention one of the Eragon books but I also can't because it's been years without rereading them. (I always used to say Legendary from Stephanie Garner but I just recently reread it and I realised I no longer love it)

Sooo that leaves me questioning things. One that came to my mind is a Hungarian book. Aranyember - Jókai Mór (roughly translated: Golden man/gold man by Mór Jókai) It's a much hated book in Hungary (at least among students, I'm not sure if it's still obligatory or not anymore) because it's long and the writer has a unique style, where he makes every description soooo long but I adore it. It's a love story with a poor man falling in love with a rich girl and marrying her but then she's just saying yes out of obligation and she doesn't love him back etc etc. Then he falls in love with a poor girl and so he has double lives. He is also very very good with money so everything he invests in turns out so much better than expected and he gets very rich too. So basically just full of lies and love and agony and self debate. It's also not modern so it's set back in the old Hungary but that gives the charm. And damn it's just such a great book now I wanna watch the movie again too. 😭

The other I thought of is a short story to the Captive Prince trilogy. The Pet. Why? No idea. But I think it's great how it adds depth to a certain not so liked side character. After reading it I love him so so much. Also read one of the best fanfics for this book. Fuck that was so gooooood too.

Sadly I don't read as much as I should anymore or as I would want to.

If I really have to pick a legit book instead of the last one it would be The betrayals by Bridget Collins. Wonderful cover first of all. Made me buy it😂 I liked it, it was mysterious and a bit messy but not enough gay for me but oh well. Other honorary mention is Call me by your name and Find me by André Aciman. Beautiful stories. Nice writing. No other words.

Thanks for the ask. I really need to start reading better books because in the past year I mostly read thrillers and trash erotica or just yaoi😅 and none of those will ever hold me as close. On that note do you or anyone have any recs?

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insecateur · 10 months

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thank you for the reviews, I enjoyed reading all of them ! Here is part 2 : Johanna & Keira, Rowan & Cynthia, Rowan & Oak, Looker & Jupiter (for the anime), Roark & Gardenia, Cheryl & Gardenia, Gardenia & Fantina, Cheryl & Riley, Maylene & Candice, Fantina & Dahlia, Riley & Roark, Riley & Byron, Eldritch & his wife (lol), Volkner & Roark, Flint & Jasmine, Cynthia & Lucian, Marley & Dawn, Palmer & Darach, Darach & Caitlin, Caitlin & Thorton, Thorton & Palmer, Buck & Mira and Buck & Marley. Phew

OUAGH ANON SORRY I ALMOST FORGOT BC I WAS WORKING ON SOMETHING!!! i'm gonna put a cut because there are a lot

johanna/keira: okay looking into these those are the protag's mom and a contest judge from the manga??? i don't know enough about them to have an opinion tbh i don't rly care. good for them i guess!!

rowan/cynthia: if i was going to ship rowan with someone i see him as having been a mentor figure to it would be augustine tbh. in general i don't rly care much for shipping cynthia with men who aren't cyrus

rowan/oak: old man yaoi. it's fine!! no real opinion about it i think but it's always fun when old men are gay together

looker/jupiter: uhh no idk i don't care

roark/gardenia: sure why not.

cheryl/gardenia: OKAY YES good i believe in this one. they should date

gardenia/fantina: sure why not.

cheryl/riley: THE LUCARIO GUY? i can't ship him with anyone i feel like he would be too dedicated to his relationship with his lucario and it'd ruin all of his dates. like people who are just more into their pets than other humans. which is valid tbh but yeah

maylene/candice: sure. that sounds cute.

fantina/dahlia: OH YEAH FOR SURE!! they should dance together.

riley/roark: okay they seem like they would both be super into their own thing which is a point in their favor i guess i still think riley couldn't score a date tho

riley/byron: byron should date me tbh. also he is roark's DAD this should be the weirdest love triangle ever actually

eldritch/his wife: i don't know him. i'm sorry i've only rly only read pokéspé xy lol MY APOLOGIES… I HOPE THEY'RE HAPPY THO

volkner/roark: sure why not.

flint/jasmine: sure why not ???

cynthia/lucian: see what i said about cynthia/men in my previous answer involving her

marley/dawn: sure, marley is rly cute. they would be cute together i think

palmer/darach: oh man i didn't remember the butler guy was called darach in english. yeah why not

darach/caitlin: no… i do like him being her loyal butler but not rly feeling that one tbh

caitlin/thorton: this is rly funny to imagine. sure why not. thorton should get a hot gf.

thorton/palmer: this is a good candidate for one-sided crush i think. thorton trying to impress palmer could be cute

buck/mira: so many characters have relatives in this game i understand why they picked it for the PLA ancestors stuff tbh. no opinion on that one i just don't care about these characters at all i don't even know if i've ever seen them in-game ever dshdh

buck/marley: Sure Why Not.

#la réponse d #i'm going to sleep now i'm so fucking sick of summer already

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the-nerd-from-outerspace · 2 years

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I am a trans guy and I was unfortunate enough to figure myself out right when ppl were shaming gay trans guys for being fujoshi going too far so I dress like a femboy in a huge yaoi shirt and plan on ordering a yaoi version of the ahegao hoodie

even tho I despite bl/yaoi for being mostly written by women for women and I just don't have any interest in that

still fuck you bigots, let men like mlm romance and erotica

I did read some bl/yaoi even enjoyed some but it really hurts finding so little that isn't fetishizing gay men, but creeps are to blame for that not those who simply enjoy mlm relationships in fiction no matter of gender or own sexuality

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royal-rainbow · 4 years

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what are your thoughts on fujoshis/fudanshis?

honestly might not be my place in many ways to answer this question haha but if u want my maybe irrelevant take: tbh I think it’s bullshit? I get it that it can become a bit cringey and in - imo very rare - circumstances slightly predatory when a straight woman is obsessed w gay content, but at the end of the day these are literally derogatory terms against ppl who enjoy gay pairings in manga or whatever and words absolutely created out of homophobia and misogyny, and I don’t think it’s like good or woke to use them. I’ve had this rant a few times also but I need ppl to evaluate their priorities when they’re focusing literally any attention whatsoever on condemning “”fujoshis”” when like, 100% of straight men get away with openly fetishising lesbianism in a way that has significantly greater real world consequences.

#maybe this is jst me being defensive bc I'm literally a fujoshi SFKHGSFKHG #I jst think it's like so weird tho that like #these are derogatory homophobic terms from a country that is still like very homophobic in general #and suddenly its woke to be like #damn theyre right the teenage girls reading yaoi ARE disgusting and unladylike #like what #also to address fudanshis aren't they jst like? gay men? so. I mean #no I don't dislike gay people sfkhgfls hahaha

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souyaf · 2 years

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hi i just wanted to ask how women reading yaoi/yuri is automatically fetishism? im sorry for asking its just i could not understand that. a lot of trans individuals discovered their proper gender/sexual identity through such media, im non-binary and bi and media exposure is what made me understand myself in a homophobic/transphobic environment...and cishet people can read or produce it as well. is consuming or creating mlm/wlw content exclusive to the individuals only? i will absolutely not say that a lot of people are not creepy, they are weird about fictional stuff and that leads them to be weird to real people too. again my apologies, i just wanted to understand as english is not my native language so i just wish to be respectful. sorry for the long ask

hi! my dni specifically states "if you're a cishet woman and read yaoi/are a fujoshi/fetishize mlm/wlw."

so i would like to preface and say there's a difference between yaoi/BL and yuri/GL. since my dni specifically mentions yaoi i'll go there.

so first it depends what your intentions are when consuming the media. if you're reading BL why are you reading it? do you just like that it's two guys and you find that hot/cute? or do you actually enjoy the storyline and characters and how their relationship forms and grows.

if you're reading it because you just like to see two guys romancing each other because they're guys...then that's weird. but if you're reading it because the storyline and character growth is really enjoyable then that's okay!

as for yaoi....i don't think there's really any reason a cishet women should be looking at straight up yaoi for any reason other than that she's getting off to it. yaoi in this instance is porn. it's just straight up porn. even worse if they identify as a fujoshi and read yaoi.

fetishizing mlm/wlw just means that when you're, say, scrolling down tiktok and see two dudes just being pals you immediately go to ship them. because they're guys. and they're friends!!!!! so they have to be dating bc gay people can't be friends with someone of the same sex without being gay together!! that's 1. kinda homophobic and 2. fucking weird.

this is a huge reason i strongly dislike shipping culture in general. most of the time it just feels like people see two characters of the same sex and go "🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰 they have to date now!!!!!" even tho there's no real substance to their personalities and sometimes they never even interact. it gives a very weird message of "MEN MUST BE TOGETHER SO THEY CAN BE GAY ABD DO GAY THINGS" if you yourself are a gay person and ship ppl to be gay that's fine but if you're straight and immediately go to make everyone gay....again....ask yourself why you do that...is it because "ugh gay relationships are SOOOOOO much cuter than straight ones!!!!"

so essentially, it really comes down to your own intentions. naturally, i don't know your intentions when you're reading content or doing whatever but you do. and i like to make it clear thru my DNI how i feel about it. if you know you're reading the content for a good reason then fine but if you find yourself reading the content for less than ideal reasons then...u know, smthn to think about i suppose.

also to tack on; i don't like when cishet people create wlw/mlm/nblw/nblm content or whatever mostly because it's going to be told thru a cishet view. it's not really their content to be creating or their stories to be told. they don't know what it's like to be gay in a gay relationship all theyre going to have is their third party views and that just....again, begs the question of why is a cishet person wanting to insert themselves into non-cishet content

#[+] — love note #[+] — love anon #i hope this makes sense my hands r fuckinf freezing #and it's hard to type

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absolutebl · 8 months

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Heyo! I have a friend I'm trying to get more into BL. She's watched KinnPorsche and I recently got her to watch 3 Will Be Free (I know, not BL). She's somewhat picky about the romance she likes to consume, so I thought I'd ask you which BLs you think would be best to get her started with the genre. Her specifications are 1) a good, solid plot (any type is fine); 2) slow burn; 3) and good chemistry. She also loves sci fi and fantasy. My initial thoughts are MoD, Not Me, and AToTS. Any additions?

BLs with: 1 Good Story, 2 Slow Burn, 3 Good Chemistry, 4 PNR elements if possible

I have not one specific list for you, but several! Many of these not updated so likely to recommend pre the 2023 madness. (Imma rag on some of your choices briefly: KP & MoD only satisfy one criteria - chemistry IMHO.

I did give you a final list of winners at the bottom tho!

1) BLs with the best stories:

2) BLs with best slow burn:

3) BLs with the best chemistry:

(by my definition)

4) PNR BLs (paranormal, sci-fi, or fantastical elements)

P'ABL did the math:

BLs that do or should show up on most of those lists:

Dear Doctor I’m Coming for Soul (Thailand) - the first one I thought of that satisfies all criteria. Good story, great chemistry, PNR & slow burn. By your friend's accounting, this should be the perfect BL. I'm a fan of this show and I have a full review here BUT I don't actually rec it often. Why? My quibble with DDICFS is that for dyed-in-the-wool BL or romance fans the ending may not satisfy, BUT that seems to be the one thing your friend is NOT - so this should be perfect.

Triage (Thailand) - good chemistry, frustratingly slow burn, def PNR, and good story. This was my second pull. It suffered at the time of airing from distribution issues and (perhaps more sadly) being up against KP. It's really good tho. A “correct the past” Groundhog Day plot, that has narrative baggage I normally do not like but is so clever about time loops, I have to forgive it my hang-ups. About a doctor who must save a boy to fix reality, but not in the usual way.

Until We Meet Again (Thailand) - GREAT story, decent chemistry, very PNR, but not slow burn. It’s a perfectly executed fated mates reincarnation plot, fantastic well-seeded twists & reveals, and the only BL I would love to see adapted by other countries or read professionally translated.

Old Fashion Cupcake (Japan) - slow burn, great story & chemistry, no PNR. This is a deceptively simple office romance that actually has a lot to say about life, love, maturity, and pancakes. It’s charming but also deeply moving and loving in its exploration of what it means to give up, and how connection can bring with it second chances. It’s also beautifully filmed and acted.

Seven Days (Japan) - slow burn, great romance plot, good chemistry, no PNR. This is a pitch perfect elegant little YA romance that stays completely true to its yaoi roots but neatly avoids all the flaws of the genre. The story is deceptively simple but allows for angst and miscommunication to develop with VERY good reason, and is almost worth studying because of that. As a romance, it is elegant. I can see why it got stolen adapted.

1000 Stars (Thailand) - solid romance, very slow burn, okay chemistry, no PNR. All BL is romantic, but not all BL is a modern romance in the literary sense of the term, but 1k* is just that, an absolutely glorious slow burn gay romance that nods at BL but isn’t behooven to it. It’s just a really well executed linear romance story.

HIStory 3: Trapped (Taiwan 2019 Viki) - not PNR and maybe not exactly slow burn but aces everything else. (This was MY KP when it aired.) Taiwan often struggles with story because their BLs aren’t always long enough to really get stuck in, Trapped is different. It has a baby murder investigation that promotes conflict between the leads, so the romantic tension is between plot and character, it’s so smart. The leads did a GREAT job of showcasing mature chemistry. The side dishes in this series are wonderful too. The main couple has an amorphous ending, but like with Dear Doctor, that shouldn't rank under these specific circumstances.

My School President (Thai 2023 YouTube) - great chemistry, very slow burn, okay story, no PNR BUT you have to like YA. I know not everyone does. This is very youthful. GMMTV gave us a classic high school set Thai BL with tropes like messy boys singing their feelings that made this one Love Sick for the modern age with all the gentle sweetness and pining ache, but none of the dated damaging tropes or issues. Yes, we’ve seen it all before, but I still ADORE this. And there is a lot to be said for the classics being executed perfectly. Who let my BL be this wholesome and funny? Possibly too slow burn for some, we wait many eps for that pay out, and Tin's pining is NOT quiet, but it defines dorky and earnest, so when the payout comes? Lovely.

About Youth (Taiwan 2022 Gaga) - exactly the same criteria as MSP just Taiwan's version. A truly lovely little coming of age high school BL with a classic YA low drama but high angst and an earnest depth. I didn’t even mind the singing, and that’s saying a lot. A weak seme/uke dynamic but tons of BL tropes (both rare in a high school setting but common for Taiwan) makes this one feel both sweet and colored by an almost real world queer authenticity and grit. Full review here.

See You After Quarantine? (Taiwan 2021 Viki) - it's short there isn't a ton of story development, but it's a nice nugget introduction to Taiwan's style. Great chemistry, def slow burn, and CUTE. This under-appreciated gem is Taiwan’s answer to Gameboys and is just as charming and adorable yet still quintessentially Taiwanese. It features a Japanese love interest and the cutest most confused disaster gay. Slow burn because the two have almost no actual screen time together and yet manage some truly amazing chemistry. How does Taiwan do it?

Why no KBL?

Fascinating but despite the fact that KBL tends to earn the highest ratings from me and occupies the most slots in my 10/10 BLs of all time, because they are so short they tend to fall... erm... short in the arena of story and slow burn. Also, until recently, not a lot of great chemistry.

So here are a few others I considered but ended up eliminating for not containing enough of your required elements:

He's Coming to Me (Thailand) - review here

Nobleman Ryu’s Wedding (Korea) - this has a 12th Night meet Cinderfella feel to it, plus some great story tricks like a plot that requires a historical setting (I love it when narrative elements are codependent).

Our Dining Table - It’s a quiet & cozy little parable of found family alleviating loneliness. Possibly too slow for some but definitely high up there for me with the best of what Japan can do, it’s only flaw (if I dare say such a thing) is that it is not really “romantic.” Lovely & sweet but the romance beats are being used to build a family relationship, not just couple intimacy, it’s OK with me, but not totally BL.

DNA Says Love You (Taiwan) - full review here

Ghost Host Ghost House - if your friend likes horror and culture immersion this might be a winner. Boys shack up with ghosts and each other. The story is weak but everything else is on point and it has some of the best slow burn HOT chemistry ever to hit our screens. No... really. The THIRST is real.

Semantic Error (2022 Viki) - Simple story, no PNR, not slow burn, but for Korea it’s some of the best chemistry the traditional studios have ever managed. It is flawless BL. Truly, perfection for the genre. If your friend doesn't like this, BL is probubly not the right genre. Full review.

Light on Me - def slow burn but story is a little weak and while there is chemistry, it's not really acted upon. Also v YA and a little stiff. I love this BL unreasonably.

KP not tagged to protect me from the fandom. Don't troll me and prove my point. Remember I can has ban hammer and am not afraid to use it.

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someoneintheshadow456 · 3 years

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So this post about gay fanfic made me think about something I noticed in all the het romance media I consume, especially otome game.

What matter the most is my enjoyment here, not my morals. Even tho my morals WILL influence my enjoyment. And the thing is that I am tired that in het romance depiction, the guy is the one with power.

It doesn't need to be in a boss-employee relationship. I talk more about interaction and also sex. In otome game I am very tired to be pushed in a position of submission, where all the love interests will be more experienced than the heroine who's just there to be rescued. It's less annoying to watch but so frustrating to play.

Even in how MLM relationship are depicted, at least in yaoi, there's a hierarchy of power.

What I want to see is more sub men and more dom women. If it's how it's called. I really don't know anymore with top bottom, Dom and sub, but I guess you can get to me there

I also am tired that sex in general have to be so raw and savage, I really want to see gentleness even with it and it's even better when it's from a character who actually dominate the other.

So all this rambling for... Yeah. It's like this post about how people are tired of how heterosexuality is depicted. It is.

But what I am more tired of is the role mirroring heterosexuality even used in fanfiction (seme/uke) which force characters into box. Even if I say that I want to see more men dominated and more women dominating, what I really want to see is relationship which blur this power dynamic in their intimate life.

When I read I don't really think about my gender. I don't try to identify with characters in particular in relation to me. I just judge on how it's interesting or not which make me able to read a lot of various things, even if work where I personally relate will have a special place in my heart to me.

I don't really understand why people try to push themselves so much in the work they consume at this point. To me fiction, when you aren't playing a video game with a self insert option at least, is to forget the world and myself and totally observe the life of make believe people.

But well I am not them and they aren't me. We consume fiction for different reasons.

But all in all, I really want to see intimacy and sex depicted differently than a constant power dynamic set in tone depending on who's the one being fucked or not.

These are all really good points, especially the whole one about a lot of MLM stories trying to look straight (one partner is very clearly “the girl”), but that wasn’t the main issue I had with that post.

It was the fact that so many women can’t read any story with women in them without thinking of gender dynamics, and this being seen as normal. This is actually far from normal and something that needs therapy and introspection, and it’s very often a sign of radfem brainwashing.

We do need better written romances without sub/Dom dynamics. But the bigger problem here is that so many women are primed to see their own gender as nothing but perennial victims, so they can’t see a woman do anything without seeing her as helpless.

It’s not normal to have such a bleak view of your own gender, it shouldn’t be seen as okay.

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skiplo-wave · 3 years

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Funniest ask I've gotten was this random girl accusing me of being a straight woman cause I ship a gay pairing that she claims is for "straights" only even tho it says in my bio I'm a cis gay man, she then came back and accused me of lying about that after checking, then went full terf and accused me of being "afab trying to live out my yaoi fantasies as a transman". I don't take anyone who unironically uses the "gay ship for straights" shit seriously 😂 I'm just an honest guy, I see hot fictional dudes, I want them to make out

Omfg

Anon my arms hurts just reading that so surely that anti arms hurt just as much reaching so hard

#asks

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yaoi-yaoieverywhere · 2 years

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I love that the last few years occasionally I get the rare person judging the URL I've had since 2011. It's really- it's just fascinating, what people will latch on to and judge for the sake of 'fitting in'.

(Below is a Vent, but tl;dr Can y'all stop clutching your pearls over an old fandom term I've had as my URL since 2011 when it hurts no one? I explain below why this is not a slur, the actual usage and some history, and why I don't feel like changing my URL. It's not in depth but if you want to know more there's plenty of research to be had.)

Real talk tho, it is funny. Yaoi is a bad word for you? It's so cringe to have been in early 2000s English Anime fandom? You want me to change a URL I've had for over a decade that references an old meme (Blank, Blank Everywhere) bc it makes you feel a little initial startle when you like content I've bought or made? So silly. Why? Do you think it's- a bad word? A word that's just a genre?? Not a slur??? We don't call couples Yaoi, Yuri, Het That's just. Wh- Where did this come from, is all I'm asking. I remember hearing RUMORS that SOME ladies were doing it at cons (tho I never saw proof) around the time this started. I can understand the initial "what the fuck" but c'mon now. A lot of you making comments have CLEARLY never seen that.

And to be clear, I don't ship Real People. Apologies to the RPF shippers if that sounds rude, but it's just not something I do. So, y'know, don't like ~accuse me~ of calling irl gay people a term that's used for a genre of manga??

I think one of the protests has been like. "Oh, Yaoi means its gay content made for ladies". ...I am reading and writing. Queer fanfic content. On the internet. Primarily made by and for. Queer people. Which does include some ladies like me. Yaoi Manga is bought by a variety of people. Including, notably, actual gay men in Japan. It is extremely hard to get actual Queer Created, Queer Reputed content in Japan- it is literally kept under lock and key in most of the places that decide to stock it "for the children". So when they're curious it's a lot easier to look at what? Yaoi. Titilating, soft, romanticized depictions of young men in lust. Or love, occasionally.

I'm Queer gang. I've been Queer a long time. I know the delicacy of balancing decorum and comfort zones and even the turmoil going on between the older and younger generation over using Queer as a term. But, on a much more lighthearted, minor scale, I'm not going to stop using this url with Yaoi in it just because you don't research or understand the term and go with your knee jerk "I think I heard someone say some lady at a con call a gay couple that". Or even worse. "It's old, so it's bad."

You're not going to get some dudebro on the side of the street spit "Fucking Yaoi" at you. You're not going to have some dismissive teacher say "You have got to stop being so Yaoi." People in the school halls don't laugh and point and say "Look, it's the Yaoi." People on TWITTER, THE IRL HELL THAT IT IS, Are NOT going to tweet "lmao yaoi loser" if you're gay. They might if you post your otp, I suppose, if they're resulting to 8th grade bullying tactics which is surprisingly common on the internet. If people are calling you Yaoi in discord or something and it hurts your feelings, I'm a bit confused, but that sounds like a friend group problem that needs sorted imminently. Good luck with that.

You're okay. I'm not here to hurt you. This word is not here to hurt you. My URL is a joke that has become a lot less easily recognized over time, and that's okay. But it's not here to cause you harm. It's also not going to get you cool points if you diss it, but that's like, a you problem.

#vent #just a lil #Most of y'all are lovely by the way #it's just weird to have people not bat an eyelash at pussyfucker420 (no offense to pussyfucker420) but give me the stink eye in tags #It's not a cuss #It's not a slur #it's. a japanese fandom term.#And no where NEAR as actually fucking controversial in Japan as BARA #AN ACTUAL SLUR #Ahem. Anyway #Remember to have courage and be kind #and do your FUCKING research

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yuusaris · 3 years

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Fic Writer Questionnaire

I got tagged by @ladymdc! I finally got to it! I'm glad and I wanted to do it and I finally have time!!!

1) How many fics do you have on Ao3?

A meager 19, tbh. I've written more on previous websites under a different username/internet handle, but it's mostly stuff I'd prefer to keep separate from my current b r a n d .

But, if I feel the answer is good enough, I will refer to my older fanfics under my digi12 handle.

2) What’s your total Ao3 word count?

34,184. Not a lot, but - I haven't cross-posted much of my older stuff to Ao3.

3) What are your top 5 fics by kudos?

(Will be censoring ship names to keep them out of the tag)

Coming in strong we've got the ever popular

1 - Pantless? In MY Chili's? with a whopping 220 kudos! Rh@ck and easily one of my best works.

2 - Followed up by Nice Face, a Tuck!ngton flavored fluff piece and the first fic I ever posted to Ao3

3 - Middle of the road goes to Dick, another rvb piece, Gr!mmons, sweet and short, it got 131

4 - We've left the rvb station, back to Rh@cktown, with Supply And Demand, a shameless smut gift that I'm surprised people like as much as they do, regardless of how popular smut IS... it got 126, which I'm not complaining about, considering how difficult it was to write satisfactorily.

5 - Last but not least, we've left the 100's and we're on The Morning After, Rh@ck with 95.

4) Do you respond to comments? Why or why not?

Every time. It's a holdover from when I wrote on smaller sites and also, I just - get so excited when I get comments. Even if it takes me a while, I gotta respond. I gotta say thank you. =w=.

5) What’s the fic you’ve written with the angstiest ending?

Wow I... will NOT be going back to my old userhandle to comment on the REAL option here, I- I'll be sticking to my Ao3, tbh, but I think that's escape was only an option, it ends on a real bittersweet note. I'm not much of an angst writer.

6) What’s the fic you’ve written with the happiest ending?

I think Earworms, a DNAngel ficlet that I wrote off the cuff. It's just some simple fluffy brotherly bonding.

7) Do you write crossovers? If so, what’s the craziest one you’ve written?

....Not anymore.

...But I will fight any Not-My-Husband motherfuckers who try to give me grief over the existence of, or lack of finishing, Sailor Canada from my Hetalia days.

8) Have you ever received hate on a fic?

Ah, one time, a very very bad fanfic I wrote so people would like me and maybe idolize me and think I'm a good writer - one time someone asked me to not make Yami and Yugi gay for each other, that they liked my story just don't make them be gay, so i replied with a big old essay about the First Amendment of the United States Constitution ands then they said they ship it anyway now, so, they were sorry.

But otherwise, no.

(...but I kinda look forward to it. That'll mean I made it, right? That'll mean my stuff is good. Yeah. That's how life works.)

9) Do you write smut? If so, what kind?

That kind that gives me grief and nothing but Pain Peko.

Supply and Demand is okay in my opinion, Dick is certainly my best foray into this... I am still proud, to an extent, of Yami no Yaoi - people still like it! I'm surprised! - but for the most part, my own gun-shyness about sex has been a real hinderance to any writing of intimacy or sexiness. I've got a lot of issues about my own... sexual participation and that includes writing it at all. It's a chore and a hassle and I want to write out the smutty things I like to think about, but... eh. It's just one of the more difficult things for me.

Tho - DollyFic [Doll House] was originally going to be more sexually oriented, complete with orgasm denial because I feel like Ryou would just be into that for some reason, but it didn't suit the prompt, it was a slog to write, a slog to read, it didn't really do anything for the dollification thing - it had to be dropped.

Though, it is mostly complete and this version can be found in my 'doc dump' tag.

10) Have you ever had a fic stolen?

Uh, DeviantArt once had someone just mass uploading fics they liked and a few of mine got snagged - but I think that was their way of trying to bookmark their stuff, lol. They were really just grabbing any old thing. When contfronted they pulled them right down, so, I don't really count it.

11) Have you ever had a fic translated?

If I have, no one contacted me about it.

Though, it would be pretty cool.

12) Have you ever co-written a fic before?

I was going tooooo.... for Rh@ck, there was a mass-fandom fic that each chapter would be done by a different writer, but I bailed very early. It just stopped looking appealing and it got really convoluted really quickly. I had a hard time following what to use on my end.

13) What’s your all-time favorite ship?

This is an unfair question, lmao. I don't have one. I have a variety and circulate like a sushi bar conveyer belt.

I guess Manipulashipping [Anzu/Malik] would be it, tbh - as much as my others circulate, I will drop EVERYTHING for a new manipula fic.

14) What’s a WIP that you want to finish, but don’t think you ever will?

Listen.

The point. Of my YuGiOh musical theatre au. Is not to be finished.

It is to get me to stop listening to showtunes and ascribing characters to roles and giving them backstage drama to carry out, so I can write my actual goddamn projects and not this shit. This does not work in fic form. It would become songfic, and no one wants songfic where I'm also trying to poorly write choreography that I need to trust will be understood via my weird, janky, repetative way of writing movement.

I don't care how badly I want Bakura to be a West End actor. I don't care how good I could write Kaiba. I don't care if I think my Atem characterization and drama and gag rivalry with Bakura is fun, I don't care if Mani- I do care that it's a vehicle for Manipulashipping, I need to write more Manipulashipping in general, but it's not as important as what I want to write.

And I don't want to write this! I just want it to exist! Not write it! Writing it would be hard and suck out the fun!

So I wrote down an unfinished cast list and I'm leaving it at that.

15 & 16) What are your writing strengths/ weaknesses?

I've actually answered both of these, technically - It's hard to answer, I feel like my strengths and weaknesses are kind of based on what I want to get from it? I think my moods are strong, but my payoffs are weak. I like my characters, but my characterization is a different story.

The thing about being super self-obsessed regarding your writing is that it's a mask for being super insecure - and insecurity means you're never really going to believe in your strengths or weaknesses because you'll only ever think about what people like.

it's me, I'm super self-obsessed.

17) What are your thoughts on writing dialogue in other languages in a fic?

Not illegal, but should be used sparingly if you yourself are not fluent in the other language.

I'm not saying to go out and learn Japanese for your fic, I'm saying that the construction of sentences in different languages are different, so just running full-sentence translations through google will look stilted and awkward, especially to readers who know what language you're using.

I've seen it said that often the 'it's hard to switch back and forth' thing is more common with, like, singular words for things? And sentence structure? Like, forgetting the word for stairs cuz the character was just speaking Spanish to someone else, so they might be like 'it's up the... fuck, escalera, i'm blanking on the English- stairs. Up the stairs."

This is a piss-poor example, but it's what I've heard - on Tumblr - is more often the case.

18) What was the first fandom you wrote for?

YuGio-....

no... wait...

...Fullmetal Alchemist.

The fic is lost to time, but it was just Envy sleeping in. And a bunch of me shooting the shit and basing it off my own feelings.

....Hhuh. Almost forgot about that one.

19) What’s your favorite fic you’ve ever written?

... Okay, I DO have a stupid soft spot for that GerIta In The Arms Of fic - I feel like I got some good tension there, I still think about it, especially since it can be hard to write Italy being, like, genuinely distressed since he's played to be such a dumbass. So, I feel like I got to a real sentimental spot there that feels genuine and not forcibly unditzy.

Yami no Yaoi is also, still, a personal favorite of mine. I also feel I got some creative elements in there and - looking back, I think it's the fic where I actually really started caring about characterization of who I was writing. I think it was my first I Wanna Try fic.

I've already said, If Pantless in Chili's ends up being my fandom opus, I will not be happy? But I... I still love it. So much. My husband hired a voice actor to read it. It's one of my absolute favorites.

Also Wing It does not get enough love, I worked hard to get that feeling across in so little words.

As for tagging my victims of choice are @tenderwulf @pyro-sea, @musicaldeductions and newest victim @bakawitch, as punishment for following me (I'm kidding).

#me tag

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saintofpride201 · 3 years

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"I'm a gay male!" Bullshit. You're a straight girl pretending to be a gay guy so you don't get backlash for reading yaoi

Anyone down to let me suck their dick for a photo op to prove I'm a gay dude? I can't promise that there won't be an emotional attachment tho

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thelittlemermage · 5 years

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"I spoke with CLAMP"

In light of recent events here's a thing every person in the Tsubasa Chronicles Fandom knows about Vic (and maybe others have heard it as well at this point)

He straight up said he met CLAMP and they told him, the character Fai D Flourite whom he voiced, was Not Gay. There's a video of him saying this at a panel in response to a fan asking what he thought of his close relationship to Kurogane.

Now, as soon as he claimed this, questions were immediately brought up. How did he know to ask this before he was even in Tsubasa Chronicles? He said himself he never read the Manga so he wouldn't know much if anything about the series at this point in time. Apparently Colleen Clinkenbeard knew to ask this, per Vic. Also...CLAMP... They don't speak English. Was there an interpreter to ask this for him/Colleen?? This may be possible but not something he ever explained? And lastly.... No member of CLAMP would say that about their character. If you know them as a group it just... Isn't something they do. They leave a lot of things very open ended on purpose. The closest thing I've ever seen to them addressing Kurofai was when someone mentioned it at a panel and a member said "Oh, it that something you like? -fans cheer- Well there's something coming up later..." referring to certain events between them in the Acid Tokyo arc. Also, CLAMP is sort of known for writing all characters as essentially bi since a big theme of theirs is that when it comes to soul mates that sort of thing doesn't matter.

Now...normally you could maybe brush this off as Vic not caring for ""random yaoi ships with no basis" "" as apparently he doesn't like "non Canon". But lying to make something not Canon by claiming to speak directly to the creators? Why? Of all ships? I can understand his eversion to say, Ed/Roy...a ship involving an underage boy. But Kurofai? A ship with two grown adults in which they are literally bound together for the rest of their lives and also (wow Tsubasa spoilers in 2019) one of them cuts off an arm to save the other's life???? And that's putting things lightly. The significance of the bond between them and the sheer amount of symbolism CLAMP uses...its natural to see them as the definition of soul mates. It's a reach to see their relationship as totally platonic, honestly.

What I'm saying is this isn't an "uwu yaoi" ship. It's well defined in Canon. And when met with criticism his response is only "well, I don't read the Manga. I only do the anime." Implying that (even tho apparently CLAMP told him there was no gay... Lol) even if there was there wasn't any in the anime cuz he voiced it and he said so.

So if you've seen people saying things like "people only think Vic is homophobic because he said a character wasn't gay once!" Yea...it's a bit more shady than that. It was a bizarre thing to do and he totally dismissed the fan's question and talked down to her while spouting lies. Why is he so adamant about Fai not being gay? What makes him so uncomfortable that he has to make up stories? Why can't he just act...normal? I can't picture another VA having that reaction. Idk man, just a thing that happened that has always made me question his character.

#Kick Vic #Vic Mignogna #That anime was a hot mess that totally fucked up Canon too #Like they accidentally sent Fai on a date with his mom's doupleganger...#It's uuhhhh unfortunate #But like the Vic CLAMP scandal has been a thing for so long #It's a mess

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