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purplewillowchicken · 3 days

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I was painting my cat Yuki and part way through I had to stop because it reminded me of Aziraphale saying I forgive you and almost brought me to tears.

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fiercebb · 9 months

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How are we all feeling about Aziraphale’s last “I forgive you”? Does it mean I forgive you for kissing me to try to get me to stay, I forgive you for choosing this moment to reveal your feelings, I forgive you for not coming with me, I forgive you for kissing me period??? What?

I keep going back and forth on it and I NEED to hear what everyone else is thinking. Lay it on me, I’m open to new interpretations because everything hurts and I’m dying.

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furiousdinosaurdestiny · 7 months

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Ugh 😭😭😭

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tampire · 1 month

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"We could have been us."

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sayuri-of-the-valley · 8 months

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On how Crowley and Aziraphale felt during the kiss (but mainly Crowley here):

Ok so first, the main idea for this huge meta is that a LOT of us noticed how the music from the kiss scene is similar to the nebula one, right?

Second, a lot of us also correctly noticed the parallels between the kiss and how it was to taste food for the first time for Aziraphale: bc of his reactions, the hand on lips, the similar way MS acted both scenes, the little inhale etc. So how was it for Crowley?

Aziraphale's reaction to the kiss is practically a puzzle to solve on its own, so it's fun to analyse it, but basically, in a few words, Aziraphale kissed Crowley and he discovered he was physically starving for him, longing for him, yearning for him, for his kiss, and he had no idea. Just like with the ox. And now he needs to gorge himself in him but he can't. Great amazing heartbreaking chef's kiss someone give MS an Emmy.

But there's already so much amazing meta out there about Aziraphale x Ox ribs x The Kiss that I want to focus on Crowley here, and on the music.

So back to the music. The song in "Before the Beginning" and the song that plays during The Kiss (I Forgive You + Don't Bother) are so similar. They're not *exactly* the same, but they're totally reminiscent of each other. The viewer is immediately reminded of those chords that played in the opening scene. It's no coincidence that the fandom was talking about this fact only minutes after first watching those final fifteen minutes. This is an obvious intentional choice for storytelling reasons (David Arnold is a genius).

I have no expertise whatsoever when it comes to music, so I asked our friend @otsanda to see if that made sense and not only it does and she explained it, but she also uncovered so much more hidden meaning in all of it (musicians are amazing), so check out her meta about the music that not only serves as evidence to what I'm proposing here but it also has so much more juicy information in it 💖.

Back to the point: WHY thought? Why choose a similar song? Why intentionally COMPOSE a similar song for that moment?

Hear me out. WHAT IF, by reminding the audience of the creation of the nebula, they meant to convey to us that, for Crowley, kissing Aziraphale gave him the same feeling that creating his stars did?

THAT'S what the music is telling us. THAT'S why it makes us remember "Before the Beginning". It may sound cheesy, but Crowley may have literally seen stars when he kissed Aziraphale. He couldn't react accordingly (just like Aziraphale couldn't), bc it was an overwhelming and extremely sad moment (the music is also telling us that) for both of them. They knew it was ending . They were both having a moment of huge revelation that was fated to not come to completion. Crowley was right, it was too late.

It makes sense to show Crowley's feelings through the music, bc he was the one who started the kiss, and also he was wearing sunglasses in that scene, it's different from a character like Aziraphale that has all his million expressions for everyone to see at all times. And they've been doing this ever since s1 with the Queen songs that play in his car or in the background.

So my point is: the same song being used there makes me wonder if kissing Aziraphale finally gave him what he lost. His purpose. What Aziraphale was trying to give back to him by taking him back to heaven. There's no need for Heaven. Just kiss him, Aziraphale, and there he'll find the stars you want to give back to him. There you will one day see that smile on his face you saw Before The Beginning. Neil Gaiman and David Arnold I am in your walls 😭

This is what may lead us to see this happiness in Crowley again (not the action of kissing itself, of course, but what it represents to their relationship, them being together, them being an Us).

As @otsanda said: from the music we can interpret that that moment was a Revelation for them. Almost a religious experience. Crowley found his purpose again. What he'd been missing the whole season (or even his whole life since the Fall, but we've seen him especially depressed this season).

I'm not even getting into the poetry of how one can interpret the parallel to the angel's reaction to the kiss as carnal, and the demon's as religious; that would be another whole essay but let's just agree that it's incredibly beautiful. (Let me be clear that I mean here Aziraphale's reaction is carnal specifically for Crowley, and Crowley's is religious specifically for Aziraphale, not religious as in "worshipping god")

"Do you ever wonder what's the point?" Crowley asked in s2e1. The point, for him, is Aziraphale (if you've seen The Good Place you know what I mean). I hope he figured this out with that kiss, even as heartbreaking as it was. Even if it was a (temporary) separation kiss. (I hope Aziraphale figures this out with time too, that he's more than enough to make Crowley happy, that Crowley doesn't need Heaven, or stars, that Crowley needs him.)

Maybe that's why Crowley didn't leave and kept waiting outside until the very last moment.

Aziraphale and Crowley both bit the apple at the end of s2. There's no turning back from that Knowledge now.

Edit: I just have to add here this brilliant colour analysis of the nebula scene by @halemerry. And it's pointed out that during the nebula formation there's a moment when it looks like two people embracing. And the fact that a similar song is used in the actual Kiss scene I just... I have no words

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gooodomens · 9 months

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Aziraphale "forgiving" Crowley, s1 & s2 🙃

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ineffable-suffering · 3 months

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The meaning of "I forgive you"

Alright, hello again, I involuntarily dipped for a bit because real life outside of this lovely Tumblr Good Omens bubble got a little bit stressful, but! I'm back for a quick little post to say that I'm currently reading the script book for Season 1 and seeing this line again, spelled out on paper, just shone some more light on the whole „I forgive you“-scene of Season 2 for me again.

Because really, this first time Az says it to Crowley in front of the bookshop tells us exactly what the second time during the Final Fifteen means.

Aziraphale is not forgiving Crowley for kissing him. Or for using this moment to confess and make things explicit between them.

No, Aziraphale is forgiving Crowley for not trusting and believing (in) him.

Let's shove the Final Fifteen to the side for a second and look at this scene from Season 1 under the cut.

The situation at hand: The World is ending, with utmost certainty. In addition, Crowley is absolutely f*cked and Hell is out to get him. He tries to apologise for their Bandstand fallout and explain the other two things to Az (poorly, but he tries). Because to Crowley, Armageddon is a done deal already. Wherever the actual Antichrist is, he's gonna come into his power and the World will be wiped out for Heaven and Hell to wage their war on. Also, Hastur is coming to kick his demon ass. Time to dip!

And yet, Aziraphale doesn't want to come with him. He is adamant that he will be able to reach the Almighty, talk to Her and turn this around. Because if Aziraphale, Guardian of the Eastern Gate, thinks there's even the slightest, tiniest morsel of a chance that he can turn things around the right way, he will do it. Even if it sounds ridiculous. Even if it's a lost cause to everyone else. Even if all the other angels gang up on him and (literally) beat him up.

Even if Crowley calls him stupid.

Aziraphale decides not to be offended by this.

Because this is what he does. This is what a Guardian does. He stays and protects to ward off the intrusion, until the very last second.

Now listen, I'm the last person to blame Crowley for intrinsically wanting to choose Flight over Fight in this very situation, because Lord knows (literally) what happened to him back when he chose Fight and lost.

But at the same time we have to keep in mind that despite his last name, Aziraphale never Fell. He never made the horrible experience of being chucked away by the one who made you to love Her because you chose to question her ways. And yes, in so many ways this choice of his, to still believe that he can change something by questioning and suggesting (both here and in S2), is utterly maddening and hurtful to Crowley. Because it's a mirror of what Crowley himself did and a reminder of just how big the price he had to pay was. Aziraphale seemingly not realizing or understanding this stings. It does.

And yet.

Yet Aziraphale's choice to not take no for an answer, to not let a punch to the gut derail him from his plan, to not let even the most definitive thing such as Armageddon keep him from fighting back, is the one thing that ends up saving the World.

Because even when it all seems impossible and completely hopeless and bloody Satan himself is erupting from the pits of Hell, ...

... Aziraphale picks up his sword and fights back.

And he wins.

Not without help, of course. But might I remind you of what got Crowley to cooperate and not simply surrender like he'd almost done that second?

You might not see it at first, but tucked in between all the posh hedonism, hidden away underneath that tightly buttoned waistcoat of his, Aziraphale is a fighter. And a good one at that. I mean, for Someone's sake, he got discorporated, beamed himself down back to Earth, found Crowley somehow, possessed a psychic prostitute (love you, Madame Tracy), rode a scooter all the way to Taddfield and fought off Lucifer with sheer willpower (and a bit of emotional coercion).

Aziraphale can fight. Smart and hard. And not only that: He can win, too. And he knows it. Because he believes, truly, firmly and wholly, that he can make things right. It's the only thing he will settle for. This, ladies and gents, this is how he ends up saving the World, together with Crowley, Adam and the rest.

Because he didn't accept no as an answer. He didn't look at the impossible and accept it as such. Even when Crowley thought him to be an idiot for trying and even after his initial attempt at talking to God had failed, Aziraphale still found a way to stop The Big Bad Thing from happening.

Which is exactly what his plan is when he ends up being forced to come back to Heaven by the Metatron. (If you still believe this was a voluntary choice, read here). And which is exactly why he is so hurt and still ends up forgiving Crowley for the fact that Crowley doesn't end up coming with him. Doesn't end up understanding, trusting and believing (in) him, just like all the way back at the end of the World in Season 1.

Aziraphale decides not to be offended by this.

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bluessom1 · 3 months

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That was happen when I listen to « The End? » on repeat…

Sorry for such a heartbreaking piece ❤️‍🩹

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livhowlett · 1 month

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I remember when I first watched S2. I was watching it with my Fiancée. At the mid way point (I think 1941) I said "They better kiss at some point. If not I'll be upset."

Then they did kiss. I was very upset. I screamed "No! I wanted it but NOT LIKE THIS!"

It's like a genie granted my wish but did that thing where they make it TERRIBLE! (The genie is @neil-gaiman)

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faithsweird · 8 months

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The stars, the moon

They have all been blown out

You've left me in the dark

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1941-crowley-slut · 7 months

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This stems from a very personal note but,

I think I just realized why Crowley hates Aziraphale trying to forgive him so much. I mean aside from the obvious "oh, it's annoying". It's like I really get him right now.

I was thinking how I hope my family finds it in them one day to accept me. And then I thought if that day ever comes, they might choose to call it "forgiveness" instead of "acceptance". And even though to them that's a huge step, it'd make me angry.

Forgiveness is for mistakes. Trying to forgive someone for who they are as a person is like calling them a mistake. I would not want them to "forgive" me for being queer or for not being in the church anymore or for whatever else we might have different opinions on, because I've done nothing wrong. If anything, it'd make me feel even more like they don't accept me because they'd still think I was in the wrong.

This is what Crowley felt. He doesn't need to be forgiven for who he is. He doesn't need someone holding onto the version of him that once was, that does not exist anymore and probably never will again. He just needs to be accepted by the person he loves. He needs to be taken as is, and not "forgiven" as if he's some mistake.

I know all of this might seem very obvious and it's not that I didn't know these things to some surface level. It's just that truly feeling it and suddenly relating my own experiences to Crowley's make it feel like an epiphany. It's a different level. I cannot explain it properly. But I get him.

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azirabelle · 26 days

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Can we talk about this moment in GO S2?

I know everyone love to talk about what a gut punch this moment must have been for Crowley. And yes, obviously soul crushing. But a lot of people seem to think Aziraphale was being an asshole for saying it, and I really don’t think he was. These 2 love each other, but Crowley didn’t kiss Aziraphale out of love. He kissed him in a desperate attempt to convince him to stay with Crowley. It may not have been intended that way, but it was manipulative. After trying to convince him with logic and a confession of love, Crowley is trying anything he can think of to get Aziraphale to stay.

And Aziraphale is almost convinced. You can see the conflict in his body when Crowley kisses him. He wants to kiss back more and embrace Crowley but he can’t. He has too much conviction that what he’s doing is the right thing. That the only way he can prevent heaven from doing something horrible is from the inside. I don’t think he has faith in heaven. He has faith that he and Crowley, working together inside of heaven, could fix this.

And this isn’t to bash Crowley either. He’s terrified for Aziraphale because he thinks heaven will manipulate him and turn him into a pawn. But, to Aziraphale, that means Crowley doesn’t have faith in him. Crowley doesn’t trust him to be capable and strong enough to hold his own up there. Crowley’s lack of faith (combined with his desperate attempt to get Aziraphale to stay) feels like a betrayal.

He’s not forgiving Crowley for kissing him because he doesn’t want to kiss him. He’s forgiving Crowley for turning (what we can assume to be) their first kiss into a bargaining chip, instead of simply an expression of mutual love and affection. And even though that hurts like hell, he forgives Crowley. And of course it’s painful for Crowley to hear, but it’s also painful for Aziraphale to say.

I don’t think either of them is being cruel or malicious or uncaring. They’re both doing what they think is best in a horrible situation that’s been designed to turn them against each other. It’s heartbreaking on both sides.

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fruchox · 3 months

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God points at Aziraphale

God: Look at my son

Aziraphale to Crowley: I forgive you

God: Pride is not the word I’m looking for

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ironic--maiden · 9 months

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