#i have Not watched a lot of the movies or shows that these videos are about

[lizardsfromspace]

What's the worst thing about fandom in the last 20 years, and what's the worst thing about fandom that's always been true of it?

The worst thing about fandom in the last 20 years has been the incentivizing of fandom-as-conflict: not merely as a field in broader culture wars but as the field for endless intra-group battles.

This manifests in many ways: as seven hour videos complaining about The Last Jedi, as Twitter backlash campaigns, but also as stans defending their faves from any and all criticism real or imagined, as the endless boom-and-backlash cycle to any fandom meme or joke you see on Reddit, and as the drive for people to look for evidence other people discussing a thing they like are hysterical illiterate dolts, before anything else.

Or, in other words: a lot of fandoms are full of assholes these days, whose main interaction with fandom is using it as a reason to be an asshole, and to defend being an asshole. The actual “fandom” part of fandom no longer really exists for them. The discourse more or less is their fandom; someone whose main fandom activity is sharing videos about how Steven Universe is a fascist (?) isn’t in the Steven Universe fandom, they’re in the videos about how Steven Universe is a fascist (?) fandom. I mean, the chief fandom for many people is their side in the fandom war. What type of fanfic you write is secondary to what your affiliations are vis-a-vis battles over fanfiction

(One trend I've noticed is people who aren't at the stage where they only talk about what they hate and not what they love, but are at the stage where they can only talk about what they love in relation to what they hate. "I love this movie...and it proves this other movie is bullshit made by a hack". No ability to say just "I love this movie", period, end of sentence. This is how like two-thirds of Film Twitter talks about film, the remainder are all the grindhouse people going "man you've GOT to see Wrong Turn 5")

Another one, that I think is related, is that fandom’s become...more transitory, maybe? There’s Big Fandoms that are inescapable and then everything else feels like it’s here for a weekend and then it’s gone. And we’ve always had fandoms that endure and fandoms that vanish quickly, when the show runs short or turns out to be bad/boring, but we did use to have a lot of enduring if small fandoms for Okay shows most people hadn’t heard of and now you don’t really. Or they burn themselves out fast.

So we’ve reached this stage where fandoms are either so big they have seven hour long discourse videos, or they’re a smattering of fanart over the course of two weeks last August. But that isn’t really the fault of fans so much as modern media release schedules.

A lot of fandom activities of old are just...impossible now, with many shows? The slow build of speculation and fan works and in-jokes and theorizing and analysis simply can’t exist in a world where the premiere comes out the same day as the finale, and you can’t talk about the finale because you have no way of knowing if the person you’re talking to binged it all in one weekend or is still on episode four. That was the kind of thing that sustained the fandom of something that wasn’t a big hit, or even something that was. My fave fandom experience ever was watching the online Lost fandom wildly theorizing for all six years of Lost, and we’d never get “and what if the Smoke Monster is a dinosaur but only the head?” under a Netflix release model. Now at a base level, we either have shows nobody can discuss because nobody’s sure who’s seen or what, or shows where everyone just discusses the finale right away, and where you get One Week of Show and then a massive hiatus, which either kills all momentum or...drives fandom in the direction of hyper-analyzing everything and fighting because, well, what else is there to do? And that plus the outrage cycles of social media plus the fact that “man who yells at Star Wars” is now a viable career choice result in, well. *gestures upwards* All that

(Really, shout out to Cartoon Network for engineering the Steven Universe fandom to Be Like That through their inscrutable strategy of dropping episodes during one random week every five months or whatever)

As for something that's always been with it...cliques and a certain fannish elitism, like, that sees engaging with media in a fandom sense as more creative or analytical or intelligent than your average person. You see it now in the form of, like, people holding up fanfic above published fiction as more representative or authentic (I’ve seen more than one post on here strongly implying queer rep doesn’t exist in mainstream non-fic storytelling???), or going “well, we think about shows, unlike those normies watching sports”. But that was probably way more pronounced a thing in the past, in the 40-50s sci-fi fans were calling non-fans "mundanes" and calling themselves "slans" as an in-group signifier (a reference to a book with superintelligent psychic mutants known as slans). Like at the very least we should be happy no one’s calling non-fans “muggles” anymore. In the evolution from “mundane” to “muggle” to “normie” normie’s probably the least bad one

#asks #fandom #schafpudel #long post

[radiation]

Video games talk dont even mind me

Bro video games as a whole are so far behind movies in terms of storytelling and pacing that it’s kind of baffling. Which of course is obvious and makes sense for plenty of reasons but like, just think about it — watching movies a lot can’t help but train a certain muscle that gives you a strong instinct for structure. I find that people who watch movies very casually, without too much artistic consideration, and don’t really know the language associated with it are still very often irked by specific issues with a movie’s pacing, dialogue, etc and are relatively capable of putting it into words. Likewise, for many movies out there, regardless of your opinions on any specific directorial choices, you do feel as if the movie is essentially cohesive and creatives involved reasonably knew what they were doing and were acting very intentionally, and there weren’t any major oversights. This includes independent films as well. Meanwhile I think both players and developers much more commonly lack the instinct for narrative cohesion when it comes to video games. Definitely a fair amount of exceptions to this, but in general I find it’s difficult to find video games that are very narrative heavy & aspire to great artistic heights that don’t suffer from inherent structural problems, pedantic dialogue, tons of dead air, etc in a way that wouldn’t slide as easily in a movie. A lot these flaws certainly have to be due to the presence of gameplay elements and having to balance that with story when the two are almost always, at least in some small respect, inherently at odds. As for the inability for devs and players to pick up on / fix these flaws…is it because gameplay can distract from it and make up for it? With longer games that have runtimes closer to the experience of a television series, is there a similar reaction where if it’s long enough you will sit thru smaller, momentary issues because you enjoy the bigger picture? Yet games are a lot more engaging than a show as a audio, visual, and tactile experience, you can’t multitask and tune the information out as easily as with a boring episode of a show, so you’d think people would be more picky? But maybe because it’s so attention-demanding people are more immersed, and believe in the experience enough to more easily accept the story? Books demand the same kind of active attention to experience though, and the bar for story in books is a lot higher, so what gives? Well a lot of these have kind of obvious answers but still Interesting questions to ask that lead to Damn , That Is Still Crazy How Much This Shit Is In Its Infancy like sometimes I feel like I’m going crazy with how many writing issues are present in games, particularly in indie games that are Trying To Be Good At Writing that feel excessively obvious and yet I often struggle to find my sentiment mirrored by others. IDK. And back to movies the thing is I feel like if the same people trying to write these kind of games had pursued movies instead then they would’ve ended up making well structured movies that avoided all of these pitfalls. WHAT IS IT WITH GAMES? Well we know what it is with games and we could spend all day discussing a million more reasons this is the way it is but no matter what I think we should just be super conscientious of these pitfalls when making narrative focused games and aspire to a greater level of intentionality that is absolutely possible . Build that muscle by really understanding the quality of storytelling long-present in other mediums.Well the other issue with indie devs is that everyone believes they are totally breaking new ground story wise that they don’t take a step back, humble themselves a bit, and cross-reference what they’re doing with the tons of other stories that have already achieved similar things But thats a conversation for another day .

[silly-little-gooses]

grayson hawthorne headcanons!

bc I know some of yall love this man

grayson was not a good swimmer as a kid. there were multiple times were he almost drowned so he taught himself how to swim out of spite.

grayson is secretly very dirty minded. he was the kid that laughs at adult jokes at family reunions. he may act like he doesn’t have a sense of humor, but it’s there.

grayson is a very talented painter. his artworks are in a wide variety of museums and his work has won many awards. he was named the most talented painter in the world at age twelve, but gave it up a bit has he grew older.

graysons hands are always cold. people are always shocked by how old his hands are. jameson calls him a vampire, but who knows, he may be right.

grayson enjoys reading non-fiction as well as poetry. he likes to try to comprehend the complicated works of edgar allen poe, charles simic, lord byron, etc.

grayson loves flying in planes. as a little kid, he was so interested in planes and as an adult, he still loves flying. he especially loves the little pretzels they give you.

grayson uses a lot of candles. not sure why, but he seems like a candles guy. he studies and reads by candlelight and owns most of bath and body works candles.

grayson prefers podcasts over music. he’ll play them everywhere - around the house, on walks, in the car, etc. he also listens to them before falling asleep so he doesn’t feel like he’s falling asleep alone (abandonment issues yk)

grayson is actually a really good singer. aside from violin, (which is canon), he also plays piano, guitar, bass, and drums. he sometimes posts videos of him singing and playing guitar on social media and girls go WILD.

grayson cries while watching kids movies/shows. inside out def made him cry, same with bluey. he will completely deny it, but he’s a softie for kids movies + shows.

as an adult, grayson is always very clean and tidy and proper. but as a kid, he loved adventures and would spend hours searching around the forest behind the estate. but he would always come home dirty and skye would yell at him, so he made himself stop and be clean and proper forever.

grayson looovveesss cats. he has two cats, a boy and a girl. he’s not a fan of dogs, they’re too loud and messy. but he’s a very proud cat dad.

grayson excels in school and his favorite subject is math. he’s kind of a goody two shoes when it comes to school. he never misses school and always goes to class. he may not stand the people in his classes, but he genuinely likes to learn.

grayson knows he’s hot, okay? he walks around school knowing he’s one of the finest people there (aside from his brothers ofc). he’s usually very confident in his appearance and has a good skincare routine and overall hygiene. however, he would never date any girl at his school bc they’re all “too desperate”.

grayson was always ridiculed by his mother for liking “girly” things as a kid. he’s always be into fashion, since skye put him in modeling at a very young age. he also loves flowers, skincare, and hair.

grayson doesn’t do a ton of sports, but he’s done fencing ever since he was little. he’s won a ton of awards for fencing too.

that’s all I have, byeeee! <3

#the inheritance games #jennifer lynn barnes #booktok #headcanon #grayson hawthorne #hawthorne brothers

[carnivalcarriondiscarded]

more outfit requests, ft some pretty fellas!

Anna Valerious Frank for @sheriffopossum, & sparkly dress Wally for @wheatlover <3

#thank you for the Looks! #also possum thank you for giving me an excuse to Remember the source of my gay awakening #and the added excuse to try and scribble her banger outfit #i watched van helsing exactly once when i was Small #can't remember anything from that movie except her and the monster thing swooping down #and also van helsing on top of her. dont remember his face but by fuck i remember her in Vivid detail #was that tmi? that feels tmi. oh well #anyway the sparkly dress was fun! im unsure if i've ever drawn an actual dress before! #its always skirts.... #in my mind he's having a little trouble keeping his balance. those are some High heels #scribble garnish #welcome home #welcome home puppet show #welcome home fanart #valerious' outfit was tough to draw #twas a Very fun challenge #it was difficult finding clear photos of her outfits' details #since a lot were either low lighting or cosplays or video game things or somethin #also her hair - gorgeous beautiful stunning - covered an important chunk of the fit #BUT I FOUND IT!!! I FOUND THE DETAILS!!! #took me a solid hour but i found it all #it was a nice excuse to gaze respectfully but Directly at her #anna valerious i had it for you before i even knew gay people existed <3

[ninja-knox-ur-sox-off]

tell me why fortnite seems to understand tmnt better than a lot of recent iterations (excluding rottmnt) im offended

#knox rambles #my brother showed me a little video and i was shooketh #they understood translating all the best things about the designs #splinter and the shredder actually looked dope #ive gotten more attached to recent versions of april so thats the only thing i have a complaint onh #like bruv i dont even play fortnite id rather watch a movie/cartoon about them than the most recent one #which no offense i did enjoy as a tmnt lover since childhood but there was a lot i wasnt really a fan of like splinter the fact they keep #trying to make april a love interest and some other stuff #INHALES #seriously splinters design is actually kinda banger why nobody doing it like that no more OUGH AND THEIR SHREDDER #okay ill stop now this is so random im so sorry for mentioning fortnite on your dashboard

[commsroom]

doug eiffel is a radio guy in every sense. eiffel still listens to music on the radio and he complains about what they play, but no matter how many times people tell him he can just listen to his own music instead, he wants to listen to the radio and complain about it, so he won’t stop. eiffel thinks it’s sacrilege when classic rock stations play anything more recent than the 80s.

#wolf 359 #w359 #doug eiffel #i know this is true i feel it in my heart #he's an analog man #and he loves a good radio show. or a bad radio show. whatever #i feel like people underestimate how nostalgia brained eiffel is tbh #he likes some newer stuff but it's mostly very mainstream #he's a pop culture guy but a pop culture guy of another era and his attachment to the technology associated with that era of pop culture #is unshakable #he likes stuff he can take apart and fix by himself with whatever's lying around. he made his own walkie talkies. etc #type of guy who still has his blockbuster card in his wallet #type of guy who watches movies on tv even though he has them on dvd #and he worked in surveillance there's noo way he trusts streamlined modern technology with 'smart' features or the equivalent #i was watching a video the other day about local radio/tv repair places that went out of business because nothing is built #to be repaired anymore and products are designed so they can only be repaired/replaced by the companies that made them #and i think eiffel would have a lot to say about that. and he would be right.

[haemosexuality]

#for me its video games #its just. such a unique form of storytelling #ur both a character and the audience #whether its a game where your actions completely shape the story or one where ur mostly just watching it unfold. being so involved in it is #so. aaaaaaaaaa #its really cool!! its so fucking good!!!! #i <3 video games #its also the perfect like. fuck whats the word. avenue?? for my favorite type of storytelling which is 'show dont tell' #like. w movies and tv shows u dont need to do a lot of explaining but you do need dialogue and stuff #or w books u can have a book w very little dialogue but they usually need to explain the setting and wgats happening since u cant yk. see i #like obv theres very different types of books and shows but like generally. most of the time. etc #games are the best at the art of putting you somewhere showing you a series od events and not explaining absolutely anything #which i LOVE #see: games like little nightmares and inside #and theyre also like. a combination of all the ways to tell a story. via visuals via audio and via text. games have all 3. this makes no #sense but do u get it???? i cant articulate anything im thinking right #i just wanted an excuse to say i love video games <3

[stinkrascal]

this will actually be my most controversial opinion but homestuck is genuinely so good. u guys just have the attention span of goldfish

#i also have the attention span of a goldfish thats why i watched the let’s read homestuck videos on youtube #i finished it though 🏡 #every time i see homestuck SLANDER on my dashboard i must rise up and defend her honor #its legitimately good u guys its a lot of fun #i met a marvel fan who talked this big talk about how they think homestuck is trash A MARVEL FAN #girl go back to watching your military propaganda #u dont have to like homestuck but if you havent even read it and your first criticism is just #what even is homestuck about 😝 #i’ll cry. that’s such a dead meme you guys #literally the homestuck fandom invented that meme about their own comic bc we all recognize that it’s long af and complicated #u can be a homestuck hater that’s fine. you have my permission #just make better jokes about it you guys #homestuck is too long! what is it even about?! - a marvel fan #i like grey people with horns. you like usa military propaganda. we are not the same #this is all specifically at the person who said they hate homestuck but loves marvel movies fuck you for having bad opinions #this is almost as bad as when i met someone who said they thought breaking bad was boring but their favorite show was the office #like i get it we all have different opinions on whats boring but wow. Wow

[wordwizards]

I keep accidentally being the guy who's obsessed with movie soundtracks. Like I mean to be normal about movies but the first thing I'll say about any movie is "The music was so good!"

#wiz.txt #my good buddy shows me a lot of normal modern movies which is delightful #guess what i always have to say about it :/ #oh i just remembered i was gonna look up the soundtrack to sinister (2012) #it had like. a different theme for each video the guy found #which would play the first time he was watching it thru #n holy shit were they scary and atmospheric #pool party was the most unsettling one to me #also that movie felt like the vibe of those youtube series #'hey i found some random vhs tapes in a sack outside the taco bell. here's videos of Actual Crimes' #except the guy wasn't uploading them to youtube and it was a movie so

[thetorturedarchives]

just found out there are people who hate channel awesome and think that the nostalgia critic videos are 'substitutes' for watching movies and don't fall under fair use. don't let them see subway surfers tiktok they'll have an anuerysm

#sorry but nc reviews since day one have been transformative. YOU may not find them funny or entertaining #thats fine #but factually? like for real life? they're transformative #he always made jokes and commented on the source material which is the definition of TRANSFORMATIVE fair use #like i still remember jokes he made in videos from like 2006 #and his videos inspired me to watch certain movies or shows bc guess what #watching his reviews does NOT even slightly supplement watching the real thing???? #someone said 'ive never seen the room but i watched his review and knew the whole plot' #like. uh i sure HOPE you did????? it would be a pretty shitty review otherwise #if you knew nothing abt the plot #the room review is also a terrible example bc its one of the early skit-heavy ones #like a lot of the review is the b story skit #which isnt true for the early early stuff

[electoons]

i love useless special interests! for example i realized recently that voice actors/voice acting is one of my lifelong special interests and i LOVE when i hear a narration in an ad that sounds like just a generic Narrator Voice but i immediately know (or at least have a suspicion of) who it is. the key bank ad on hulu came on and i almost immediately recognized the narrator as katey sagal (tbf im obsessed with futurama but i actually didn't clock her until a specific inflection change halfway into the ad and i suddenly heard leela and peggy bundy talking at me). recently there was an apple watch ad that had ty burrell. and another one, i don't remember what the ad was for (possibly metro pcs?), that i'm 99% sure was retta. my ears prick up like a dog when i recognize a voice. i will likely never have any actual productive use for this knowledge other than creeping out my friends but i like having it anyway

#ads are evil but i am allowed to find some joy. #mia.txt #im annoying to watch cartoons with bc i have to interrupt every few minutes to provide background on specific voice actors #and list several of their different roles in other shows #'li'l gideon is voiced by thurop van orman who is the creator of the misadventures of flapjack as well as the voice of flapjack. captain #k'nuckles is voiced by bill murray's brother brian doyle murray. he played the boss in christmas vacation as well as a ton of other roles #bubbie the whale is voiced by roz ryan who played among other roles the muse thalia in hercules. the voice of megara in that movie #was susan egan who played lin in spirited away! chihiro was voiced by daveigh chase who played lilo amd haku was james marsden #who has been the voice of max goof since 1995 and many other roles. and also li'l gideon's dad is played by stephen root who #played bill dauterive in king of the hill as well as lots of secondary characters. sorry you can unpause it now' #< me very recently #it had been a while since i did that and it felt so good. the previous voice actor infodump i committed was in response to a carvana ad #featuring rob corddry and brian huskey #bc then i had to start talking about bobs burgers and also about fallout new vegas bc rob corddry had a minor role in it #another example: i was watching a ride through video of the E.T. ride at universal studios and recognized billy west as one of the cops #tbf he was doing the zapp brannigan voice so its Intermediate Level recognition at best 😔 smh #CORRECTION BTW I MEAN JASON MARSDEN NOT JAMES MARSDEN!!! FUCK LIFE FUCK EVERYTHING I HATE BEING ALIVE #what sucks even worse is that i googled to double check the year on that fact just to be safe and i STILL TYPED THE WRONG NAME

[catinfroghat]

Want to watch harakiri tomorrow it's been too long since I watched a proper film

#haven't watched any movies at all since skinamarink a whole month ago only tv shows and video games #tbh i have been reading a lot nore though which is good

[devourmist]

Mun, what are your top 5 comfort movies/shows?

// omg!! well i don't really watch a whole lot of either, my time spent watching something are usually let's plays. my biggest source of comfort currently are markiplier ( because i just really vibe with his humor ) and game grumps. there's a lot of their playthroughs that i rewatch almost religiously ( especially pkmn firered from game grumps or the new minecraft playlist from mark ). other than that i generally gravitate towards people with calm, soothing voices to just put on as a background noise or potentially fall asleep to ( baertaffy or northernlion. from them i especially enjoy the roguelikes like darkest dungeon or the binding of isaac because there's not a whole lot of plot to miss if i space out or fall asleep ). the nice thing about rewatching stuff i've already seen is that i can fall asleep during it guilt-free and not worry like i missed something. i also really enjoy matpat because his enthusiasm and energy can be infectuous, so he's fun to watch. plus i love ( and hate ) his constant pauses in gameplay to analyze thE LORE.

but you know? something that really sticks out to me as a core memory™ would be the live action asterix & obelix movies, especially the first two. i'd watch them back to back for days.

#< out of character. > #// this was cute. :) ty for actually asking #// i'm huuuge on watching comfort videos and honestly what i've been doing for the past week or so lmaooo #// even if they're just. gaming stuff gkjfdkjgfd #// i honestly think it's just the fact that it feels like the creators are talking directly to you rather than how you watch characters #// interact with one another in movies or shows. it makes me feel less lonely #// because i hate being alone and in silence. i don't have a lot of people to talk to so at least feeling like someone is talking to me #// instead is comforting

[allofthebees]

While I do agree with posts that (respectfully) state that as an adult it's important to extend your media consumption to things that have your age range as the target audience in mind, I do wonder if the ops of those posts have M rated video games in mind there as well.

Bc sometimes I look at my own tastes and go dang this is mostly kids stuff but if I include the games I play or have played and love then I have a pretty big list of adult media I enjoy

#this isn't to say that just bc i play m rated games i dont have to watch shows amd movies for adults #but there's so much story that's in a lot of video hames i love that they might as well be an adult tv show or book and such #so i think they count too #buzz buzz

[stitchthesewords]

that 'tell me about the best movie you watched this year' post is making me realize i. did not watch any movies this year.

#I don't really watch tv and movies #I don't think they're bad!!! in fact there's a lot of shows and movies i genuinely love #but idk #as a media they feel designed to cater to people who arent me #i cant focus on them #and bc they're heavily plot focused i cant like #really fidget or do anything else while watching a new show or movie #and i do a lot of cross stitching while say for example watching youtube videos #like yeah hermitcraft and empires have plotlines! the lore is great i love it #we love lore here #but on the whole youtube videos tend to be less focused on the narrative #which means i can only half watch it while half paying attention to something else and still follow along for the most part #like markiplier and jacksepticeye's videos are also top tier for how i prefer to watch content #and the tv shows I want to watch [the new iwav show or first kill] are very plot heavy #listen ive been watch TOS [star trek] now for like 8 years and im only partially through season 2 okay #i am pathetic cringefail when it comes to tv and movies

[bmpmp3]

OH ALSO a couple nights ago i had a dream and like 0% of it was messy and unclear but I DO remember this green man. he was like a lawyer or a doctor

#dream journal #he looks like my subconcious stole his character design from something. what is it #i havent had many clear dreams in a few months but i have at least been having dreams which is good #means im sleeping enough #but i do miss my narratively cohesive dreams #at least recent ones have had some interesting pieces of imagery on occasion #not sure if its because of the medication i went on a bit ago or not sleeping at the right times or maybe like #okay this is kinda wack but i have better dreams if i watch a lot of cool movies or read cool books #i need a balanced diet of entertainment in order to have cool dreams JHFAKJSLDJFKLDS #i havent been watching movies or playing video games or. honestly doing much of anything recently so i need to like #get on that shit. i need to watch a god damn tv show. so i can have cool unconcious mind TV #do you understand me. do you understand