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k-s-morgan · 27 days
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Hello! Could you please talk about Bedelia’s feelings regarding hannibal and her dynamic with him? it’s not just professional curiosity and we know she has some darkness but not like him or Will. So why is she so invested in hannibal? Going willingly with him to Europe, presumably sleeping with him and even goading him into killing and eating Will. She had already skipped town once and acknowledge he was dangerous, so why not stay as far away as possible?
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I think Bedelia has a very high self-esteem and a painfully strong sense of curiosity, plus some darkness that she prefers to keep dormant. She always knew that Hannibal is dangerous, but she still continued therapy with him, genuinely trying to understand him, too fascinated to back off. She says she tried to refer him to another doctor, but based on their interactions, she truly enjoys sessions with him, likely because she feels in control. In S1, when Hannibal reaches out, she backs away, never letting him close but keeping him interested enough to keep him coming to see her. It's like she's playing a game of her own, getting to know this unique man in a person suit, understanding she's the only one he can more or less confide in, and enjoying her power. But the balance begins to shift when Will appears and when Bedelia realizes she underestimated the depth of Hannibal's depravity. Hannibal is focused on Will entirely now, he doesn't need Bedelia all that much, and she doesn't like it because losing Hannibal's interest means becoming disposable. As she sees more and more of the real Hannibal, she freaks out and runs.
Another shift comes when she sees him after Mizumono and agrees to escape with him. Bedelia thinks she holds control again: Will is gone, Hannibal is a wreck who desperately needs council, and she feels confident about her own importance. Hannibal tells her, "I never found you to be lacking," which she likely takes as a certainty that she's never been disposable, after all. In that shower scene, it's obvious how she gradually relaxes and becomes lazily arrogant. She thinks she can step forward now, getting to know Hannibal even better, behind the veil, being the one who'll gather the pieces of him, and also satisfying her curiosity along with a morbid and mostly latent fascination with darkness, as well as basking in knowledge that someone as dangerous and unique as Hannibal needs her.
All these motivations are gone as soon as she understands that Hannibal is not only not over Will but that he's also casually planning to kill her (in E1 of S3). She didn't expect it, based on her reaction, at least not this soon. That's where Bedelia starts another game with the aim to survive. Trying to get Hannibal to focus entirely on Will is the strategy she considers winning because Will is the only thing she can genuinely distract him with from his plans about her. If Hannibal is busy hunting Will, probably killing him and then destroying himself over it, she will have more chances of escaping to safety unnoticed.
Here is another post about Bedelia and her dynamic with Hannibal that you might be interested in. It focuses more on S3.
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suchawrathfullamb · 4 months
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Help me understand the situation if u don't mind , u said the fall was not romantic right I'm saying the same , he knew he couldn't go back because he was literally forced again in a situation where he couldn't have anyone other than Hannibal, I am queer myself so I don't know what heteronormativity u talking about. I saw the gallery scene after Ur post but weren't they talking about just killing each other , I always read an analysis from early 2015s that support my claim . All I see is Will forced in situations where he has no one left other than Hannibal. I am really trying to see that " dark romance " but all I see is one man's desperate attempt to stay sane . I mean Will married Molly , and was happy with her , bored maybe but happy(not my words I read a meta about it ) he didn't even visit Hannibal for 3 years u know, and after the dragon attack to his family his first instinct was to kill Hannibal , so I am struggling to see any reciprocation from his side.
Heteronormativity has nothing to do with being queer or not. If you don't know what that is, research it, I'm not obligated to educate you. But it is something that everyone who grew up on our society falls under, it's inevitable until you actually unlearn that behavior.
The gallery scene talking about killing each other? How on Earth is that interpreted this way? Saying you read a meta means nothing in terms of being canon or not, unless the creator of the show wrote it.
Will had "no other option"? Who obligated him to stalk Hannibal and his whole life history in Europe? Who obligated him to speak to Hannibal after 3 years? Who obligated him to execute a escape plan?
Will had plenty of options, but chose Hannibal instead.
It is canon he was far from happy with Molly, he states that when Hannibal suggests the Dragon was targeting his family and he cackles and says "of course not", after figuring out that the Dragon targets happy families. He also very much left them to die, as Hannibal stated himself. He had all the reasons to believe they could be in danger but chose to ignore and leave them unprotected. He doesn't say I love you back to his wife, and the show's direction made sure we saw zero affection from Will to her, to depict the distance he had.
You said we can't "water down" the relationship in your other ask, yet you yourself did it in this one by saying he's "just a man trying desperately to stay sane". How is it just that? How is he so desperate to stay sane yet keeps WILLINGLY choosing to go with Hannibal?
How do you interpret Will talking to himself through Abigail's "ghost"? "Still want to go with him?" "yes", "we were supposed to leave together", "god knows where I'd be without him"??
How is he staying sane by continuously avoiding to just end Hannibal the multiple times he had the chance? If this isn't about THEM but just about "a man desperate to stay sane", then why on Earth does he keep going after Hannibal, saving him, stalking his whole life, obsessing over him, going back to him no matter what? If it was "just a man trying desperately to stay sane" the show could've ended in Season 2 after Will and Jack trapped him. Why did he call Hannibal and saved him?
What does Will's sanity have to do with him wanting to run away with Hannibal?? *he stated that, just saying cause it seems you are forgetting scenes.
Anyway, you asked if the fandom would accept you not shipping them but seems like you're not accepting that we ship them and it's canon 🤷🏻‍♀️.
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pumpkinfreak · 2 months
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Watching Hannibal for the first time S2E1-4
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Before I recap anything I need to rant. Will is in an asylum. At his lowest point, fighting for his life. Okay, Beverly Kats a pathologist from Jack's team. Comes to him and needs his help solving a murder. They found a body downstream, and Will, with his big brain wisdom, tells her to go upstream to find the killer... I am beginning to understand how these people could drive you to serial killing. HOW IS THAT NOT YOUR FIRST INSTINCT. It's a rural area, there's not a WAWA on every corner to search.
Apparently any rat bastard can get into the FBI, they all rely upon one guy using basic laws of nature to solve crimes. Like, this was not 4D chess, it was Connect Four. Instead of connecting four, you threw up on yourself and went crying to Will to fix it.
...rant over.
First scene Episode 1. Gives me more Mads fighting in a suit (I need psychological help) always love that. Lecter and Jack are trying to kill each other and then the plot insults me by jumping back twelve weeks. When Jack and Lecter are still friends. They're both bummed about Will being a serial killer and blaming Hannibal for the murders.
During this, we got to see the inside of a sea urchin (I desire the yellow spike ball meat) and it implied the Tuna meat Hannibal was sclicing up was a person. Like I don't know what fish meat looks like.
The whole event was very upsetting.
However, back at FBI headquarters, I was pleased to see Miranda! She's the internal Investigation lady.
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Granted it's not the same character, but the vibes were there, now I need a Hannibal/Sex and the City crossover. Carrie and Lecter can go shopping and then eat Big. THE PLOT WRITES ITSELF. Anyway, Miranda, wants Jack to essentially throw Will to the wolves so the FBI doesn't have to take accountability for destroying his brain.
Also, there's like a guy sewing people together, so they form a giant eye to look at GOD, so GOD can look back at them. It looked really neat. Did not like watching a victim rip his own skin apart to escape. Loved the sequence of him running from the killer. Hannibal kills the guy, steals his leg, and sews him into his own body painting.
It's made abundantly clear that Hannibal believes himself to be god in this scene, and then he goes home and eats some tasty leg meat.
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Episodes two and three focus on Will's trial, and everyone has opinions. Alana thinks Will did kill those people, but he did it in an unconscious state, and would not have done so otherwise. Jack is torn and can't decide if he pushed Will too hard and broke his brain, or if he's a highly intelligent psychopath who used the FBI as a cover. Will is in the trenches, trying to prove it's Hannibal. My opinion is that the hat Freddie wore to the trial is a sin against god and man. This woman wore the hat your Southern Baptist grandma wears.
In the smack-dab middle of this trial, another ear is delivered to the court. The ear belongs to the bailiff, who is found super dead. Jack is thrilled because this means someone may have done the killings, and he can avoid any responsibility for Will's mental state. I think I want Jack to get eaten. They try to work in this new murder as proof that Will is innocent, and the judge is not having it...that judge is then artfully murdered...
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...but at least Will got a mistrial
Episode 4.
While all of this is going on, Will is at the same hospital Chilten runs. Chilten is somehow alive, after being turned into a slaughterhouse gift basket. He did lose a kidney but retained his brass balls because this man just keeps on being a massive douch nozzle. His new mission in life is to prove Will is a psychopath.
Will wants Beverly to look further into Hannibal, and she begrudgingly agrees.
Jack's wife confides in Hannibal that she wants to kill herself, due to the pain from her cancer. To which he agrees, and when she comes back later on the brink of death from a morphine overdose, HE FLIPS A COIN AND REVIVES HER. First of all, I thought he was gonna feed Jack his own wife. You know, for funsies.
Then Beverly finds human kidneys in Hannibal's fridge. Wait, there is more. THERE IS ALWAYS MORE ON THIS HIKE THROUGH SATAN'S LOWER INTESTINE. Beverly discovers a bunker under Hammibal's house. That she explores alone, I'm not surprised she had to be told to go upstream. We don't see what's in the bunker, but imagine it's not a Beanie Baby collection. Hannibal finds her and then cuts to black.
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Im going to throw myself into an oven. I loved almost all of this, until next time. Stay safe, and do not eat the Tuna.
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ladyjanesta · 6 months
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Hannibal Season 4
I have a very specific way I want it shot. Nothing like Silence of the Lambs, they're out in the world let's have fun with it.
I want it to cut between the FBI team who have been tasked to hunt them down and them just navigating a new relationship when they have history and just two long time bachelors learning to live with one another (Will's three year marriage notwithstanding as there's no way he was 'himself' whilst with her) whilst also in hiding from the FBI.
Hannibal can't have a pretentious speech ready at all times, especially about basic, tedious day to day life like, you know Hannibal has to buy a shit ton of lint rollers because of Will's dog habit.
Will being sent out to buy a certain ingredient from the market and just slightly getting it wrong, not wrong enough for it to be a problem but Hannibal was very specific in what he wanted, Will not really seeing the problem and Hannibal having to choose to make it an issue or to just let it go.
Just, the little readjustments when sharing your space with another person as an adult.
Does Hannibal snore? Does Hannibal snore loud enough that it keeps Will from sleeping? Does Hannibal occasionally wake up to Will standing over him white knuckling a pillow?
I think it's a huge thing for Hannibal because anyone invited into his space has always been on his terms, plus he's always presented a palatable version of himself in order to escape any negative/suspicious attention. And now he's sharing everything about his life with someone he cannot lie to and can seen who he is down to the bone. That's got to be a hell of an adjustment: being naked after nearly forty years wearing a 'person suit'.
I want to make it known that the FBI parts are shot like a normal, traditional procedural show, complete with tedious aspects like paper work and wrong leads and lots of speculation (Jack is a bit character in this (retired or just dipping out), he pops in and gives his impressions with make sense to us the viewers but is batshit insane when explaining to another person). Lots of beige and petty office politics.
This team is not the all star team, the Murder Husband case is quickly fading from public interest but the FBI has to show they're still trying to catch these two. The Murder Husband Basement is the naughty corner for agents who screw up with their bosses or in the field.
The murder husband side is filmed like The Santa Clarita Diet/Pushing Daisies, shot with a light palette with deep dark macabre overtones. Hannibal just having fun with the fake passport names and Will visibly gathering strength as he introduces himself as Mr Achilles Alphonso Papadopoulos, and his husband Mr Patroclus Papadopoulos. Will catches himself making a cannibal pun and wants to throw himself into traffic but Hannibal is delighted with Will's progress.
Will always gets a middle name. It's a little something just for Hannibal.
I have day dreamed whole episodes about this.
The FBI team go to a crime scene where the Murder Husbands are the main suspects and it's super serious, a monstrous tableau which haunts the team (there's little mini scenes where the team are talking to a (normal) psychiatrist about it and we (the audience) learn just horrific details about the murders/victims) and it cuts to Will and Hannibal arguing over the crime in progress in their murder suits, on how to place the ribcage just so. Is the underlaying theme too pretentious?
Hannibal getting Will's attention in order to wave at him with a severed arm. Will getting Hannibal's attention and pointing at a hideous couch and asking, 'don't you have a suit like that?'
Just two dudes having fun.
Scenes from an opulent dinner party with the camera panning on the certainly human meat plated with such care and attention, cutting to the limp, sad gas station doughnuts that the FBI team have access to. Utterly pathetic, grey toned cheese sandwiches with way too much mayo cutting to beautiful breakfast foods, crafted with love...and human flesh. (I also like to think that Hannibal puts human meat in everything, even things that don't traditionally have meat in them).
At one point the team are looking at photos of Hannibal's meals and one of their stomachs just start growling loudly.
The team realising that Jack Crawford has certainly eaten human flesh.
A mini episode featuring Hannibal's never ending battle against the dog hair in their home, in which he is slowly losing.
One of the FBI team literally bumping into one of the duo but because they're distracted or they've gone face blind staring at their photos in The Basement and it never clicks.
The duo don't even know about the team, that's how out of reach they are, or, Hannibal is in contact as a 'specialist' with one of the team, they have a rapport.
In-jokes, Hannibal sends memes, Hannibal sends memes that he has cleared with Will to the team, etc, etc...
Miriam Lass now has a successful morning cooking show online. She has different cooking attachments for her arm, she's thriving. Her show is sometimes on in the back ground in scenes because everyone watches her, everyone's low key forgotten she was a Ripper survivor.
Hannibal has some of her merch, it's an apron with her on it waving, but at the end of her arm is a whisk attachment. Hannibal has low key forgotten she's a Ripper survivor, Will asks whether wearing the apron is a bit ghoulish and Hannibal has a, 'Oh, right', moment.
The fun is endless.
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SHIP BINGO FOR THE GUYS U WANNA TALK ABOUT. CELLTW I THINK . gimme the cannibalism rundown king
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MAC. looking u dead in the eyes. getting into celltw has almost convinced me to start watching hannibal i guess i just really like gay cannibalism and i need more of it. ANYWAY listen listen listennnn. ok. qcellbit and qpac are my little fucking guys alright. my favourite boys. i'm gonna give you their whole fucking backstory here ok. ok. infodump time. i apologize in advance
so cellbit was a child soldier who didn't even have a NAME. resorted to cannibalism to survive. badboyhalo was there. both stuck in a war. killed thousands of people. AWFUL TIMES!!! goes from child soldier to domestic terrorist somehow. he gets arrested and thrown in FUCKING ALCATRAZ. HE'S STILL A CANNIBAL. somehow manages to sneak a cell phone in and uses it to threaten prisoners and people start calling him cell because he literally didn't have a name before. right. ENTER PAC E MIKE. they're robbers for a living. the sillies <3 they robbed a top security museum and got caught and thrown in alcatraz. cell has gone bonkers and fucking yonkers. weird habit of licking his lips. i'm in love with him. protects pac e mike from other prisoners. they are wary of him (understandable). pac e mike make a friend named jv who tries to help them escape. cell kills him right in front of them and tries to escape himself. gets thrown in solitary. pac e mike go to the solitary cells just to mock him. lots of lowkey gay tension in that scene???? eventually pac e mike escape with the help of another friend but cell tags along because he threatens them with a gun he got from a security guard he killed. THIS MAN IS UNHINGED!!!
they end up on a deserted island. the boat they used to sail there needs repairs and four people can't fit on it at all anymore. cell decides one of them needs to die and tells the others they can decide which one has to be killed. cell is the only one who manages to find food on the island, which happens to be apples. he hoards it from the others and I SHIT YOU NOT THERE IS SOME WEIRD FUCKING RELIGIOUS IMAGERY GOING ON HERE. OK. pac seeks out cell, and CELL, WHO IS SITTING IN A TREE, OFFERS PAC AN APPLE IF HE KILLS ONE OF THE OTHERS. PAC SAYS HE'LL THINK ABOUT IT AND CELL GIVES HIM AN APPLE. I'M GOING TO EAT DRYWALL. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DID THAT ON PURPOSE BUT THEY SURE FUCKIN DID IT ALRIGHT. at some point cell eats pac's leg but we have no idea when that canonically happens bc it was only canonized in qsmp and wasn't shown in Fuga Impossível where he and mike met cell, but IT'S STILL FUCKING CANON AND I LIKE TO THINK IT HAPPENED SOMEWHERE ON THAT FUCKING ISLAND. ALRIGHT. IT COULD HAVE HAPPENED IN PRISON BUT IT HAPPENING ON THE ISLAND JUST MAKES SO MUCH MORE SENSE 2 ME.
they trick cell and trap him, telling him to use the last bullet in his gun for himself. the three of them leave the island and hear a single gunshot. they think he's dead. SIKE!!! somehow years and years later, pac, mike, and cell, plus two others are all on the same ship together and end up on a new island. cell now goes by cellbit??? and really likes mysteries and is a pretty chill person in comparison to how he used to be??? he went through copious amounts of therapy and is actually somewhat well adjusted. he's a pretty cool guy.
he's changed. mike has changed. pac has changed. they're all so different. he and cellbit get stuck in a cave and they kiss. it's weird. they don't do it again after that. cellbit starts talking to another guy, roier. they get married. pac is disappointed but he doesn't talk about it too much. why is he disappointed? he doesn't really know. pac has changed but every time he looks at cellbit he's back in that prison. one day, everyone's furniture goes missing, including cellbit's. pac's first instinct is to grab his son by the shoulders and tell him to pack his things because when cellbit sees that someone has robbed him he will go on a rampage the likes of which no one has ever seen. that doesn't happen. cellbit snaps and demands public execution of the culprit so they can drink his blood. he's holding a knife. he's easily placated and puts the knife away. cell is clearly somewhere in there. this is the first glimpse pac has gotten of him in the five months they've been here. pac licks his lips the same way cell used to. it's a habit.
their son goes missing. the president is put on drugs by the federation. pac has lost everything. he takes the fed's medication so he can try finding a cure. he sits in cellbit's castle panicking for a solid five minutes, debating with himself over whether he should leave some of the medication for cellbit to find in hopes he can help them. he tries to find a cure on his own while still hopped up on pills. there's blood on the floor. he leaves notes for his loved ones. he knows cellbit well enough to know he will come looking and find this. the thought is as terrifying as it is relieving. cellbit develops a cure with pac's notes. cellbit yells at the president, the fellow father of their son. pac only hears cell. he takes the antidote he helped develop. cellbit guides him home and tells him he's not alone anymore and never will be again. they hug. it's terrifying. it's comforting. it's weird.
cellbit clearly left that prison behind. pac never has. he probably never will.
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aldoesthings · 2 years
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a long analysis of season 2 episode 13, “mizumono”
hello! after many days of deliberation, i've finally decided to go off the rails and write down all the thoughts i have about the thirteenth episode of season two, “mizumono”, as i consider it to be the best one in the series.
you better strap in folks, it's gonna be a long one. also, do keep in mind that these are just my personal thoughts- i'm in no way implying this is the "correct" interpretation to have about this episode, and i encourage you all to re-watch it and try to see how it makes you feel! reblogs are appreciated!
(also, @alas-the-void-screams-back wanted to be tagged in this, so here you go!)
first of all, i'd like to """briefly""" talk about what i consider nbc's hannibal to be about. as many before me have said, the series places an enormous deal of importance on the subject of being seen. but what does that actually mean?
the way i see it, the main characters of this show are opposites on the subject of how people perceive them. what i mean by this is that a lot of the people that surround hannibal- his acquaintances, his dinner guest- are merely distractions who think they know who the man in front of them is. the people surrounding will, on the other hand, are unable to shake the fortress he has built around himself. he's a mystery to them.
the shallow people around hannibal see the dinner parties, the colorful suits, the intellectuality of the man in front of them, and think that's what there is to see. but as he himself says, he has worked very hard to blind them.
will, on the other hand, is simply opposed to having people try to perceive him in any way- and yes, i know that sounds funny, but english isn't my first language and i have no better words for it- after all, his empathic nature has caused him to be unsure which parts of him are actually his, and what parts are simply reflections that have been left there by all the other minds he's entered during his life.
with all this being said, let's return to the theme. being "seen" is something that these two characters have both grown to be opposed to, hannibal to remain hidden under his person suit, and will to escape from having to address the darker thoughts in his head. this makes it even more enticing when they both realize that is what's happening between them.
the slow process of stripping away parts of themselves to show the other becomes intoxicating to them, even when they don't realize what that fully means, at least not yet.
let's start with the actual episode.
(keep in mind- i won't go over every single scene, just the ones that, y'know, i have something to say about, lol.)
the opening
so. the episode begins with hannibal inviting jack to dinner. by this point in the show, we are aware that will is playing both sides- but we, as the audience don’t yet know who he will end up helping in the end. the anticipation of it is what has driven us to this point, this conversation that is constructed in such a way that it seems as if the three characters are conversing to each other.
will carries himself through it with sharp retorts and answers. after all, he must feel some sort of sense of power- he is the only one that is holding all the cards in his hands, finally in control of the two most overbearing (in very different ways) presences in his life.
the mounting tension between the three is only adding fuel to the fire, as both jack and hannibal are almost desperate to make sure will is on their own side. this is where we also hear one of my all time favorite quotes from this series, written by thomas harris himself:
“when the fox hears the rabbit scream, it comes running. but not to help.”
not only is this hannibal trying to make sure will won’t betray him (the ever-distrustful bastard), it is also a perfect representation of hannibal himself- just think about the entirety of season one.
we don’t know whether will’s desire to see hannibal punished for what he has done is still greater than his own mounting need to be understood. audiences generally tend to latch onto the first version of a character we meet, almost being dismissive of negative changes in them when they happen, until they’re slapped in the face with a turning point so enormous it is impossible to ignore. this is, certainly, what has happened to will- we maybe, subconsciously, want to still see that fbi profiler that would have given up his own sanity to close a case, but the truth is that will has not been that in an extremely long time.
the office scene
ooh, boy. this scene is, quite literally, hannibal burning his whole life to the ground. his patient records, so intrinsically tied to his work life, something that has helped to craft the mask he wears every day, are getting carelessly tossed to the ground. just like they are being torn apart and burned, will is slowly tearing pieces of that mask away, leaving nothing but ashes.
it is so incredibly telling that as hannibal speaks of leaving this life behind, he uses the pronoun “we”, as if the idea of will not being with him in this new beginning is so preposterous, so unthinkable, that it hadn’t even crossed his mind. he talks about it freely, as if it is a given.
and will indulges this, mind you, talking about only needing a stream. and he is so truthful when saying this that the audience almost forgets what is actually happening, the fact that will is playing one step ahead, because in this conversation, he is not. he’s simply giving other pieces of himself to hannibal, because how could he not?
which is when the audience is abruptly reminded of the stinging betrayal they knew was coming.
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this revelation (for hannibal) is so incredibly striking not only because we did not expect it to happen at that moment, but also because it now adds another element of suspense to the story of the episode. the piano sting accompanying what can only been described as the confused and hurt expression on hannibal’s face is what sealed the deal about this episode for me the first time i watched it (and i hadn’t even gotten to the really good parts yet).
this element, added to the ticking clock that can be heard throughout the entire episode (both a reminder and a count-down, for what, we don’t yet know), and to the knowledge that we have that this season will end with a bloody fight between jack and hannibal, is what makes us sit at the edge of our seat.
that kitchen. that damn kitchen
alright, well. let’s do this.
first of all, will’s call. all the doubts the audience had on where this character stood, doubts he had until this point, dissolve the moment he hears hannibal’s voice, as he himself states later on, in season three. simply hearing him say “hello” is enough for will to make a decision that he is aware will change the course of his life once more- the first change being meeting hannibal- and so he tells him, in a very succinct and quick way, as if ripping off a bandaid. “they know,” is all is said before he hangs up. yet, those words are an explanation, an offering, and an apology, all simultaneously.
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the fight between jack and hannibal is as raw and brutal as we would expect of them. jack is a very real, flawed character, one that the audience is able to see themselves in for the entirety of the series: his unflinching belief in justice (and also his own hurt and rage) has brought him here, and as such he is driven by the need to make sure the chesapeake ripper hurts no one else. and if that means having to kill him, then so be it.
alana’s own attempt at hannibal’s life cements her as an incredibly strong, decided character. the burning shame she feels at having been blind to the monster in front of her gives way to a single-minded resolve to remedy her actions. this is followed by abigail’s reveal which, apart from being surprising (because, well, she’s alive), also shocks you when she, as far as she knows, murders alana, a woman that had been nothing but kind to her in the brief time they had known each other.
will finally walks into the kitchen, the core of hannibal’s house, its own beating heart. it has seen horrors beyond comprehension, humanity itself being laid out and eaten on its counters. it has seen and heard everything. that changes when will, soaked from the rain, quietly steps into it one last time.
will’s agonized expression at seeing abigail is quickly replaced by pure anger as he turns towards hannibal. he had called him, told him to go, to run away, offered it as an apology, and yet he had remained. and the answer hannibal gives is enough to shock him into silence.
“we couldn’t leave without you.”
hannibal has said them, the words that had been hanging in the air between the two of them for a while, and it almost seems like it should be a sin, putting what they had been feeling into words. will does not respond. how could he? he doesn’t make a sound, not even as hannibal cups his cheek. he knows what will happen.
the visual of hannibal tenderly holding will, opposed to the knife tearing through his abdomen and the absolute agony in his voice as he almost tries to silence his sobs and groans of pain, as if he doesn’t want to disturb the moment, is still one of the most horrifyingly beautiful scenes i’ve ever seen in a show.
the performance mads mikkelsen gives is raw, as hannibal starts talking and finally lets the audience understand what it feels like to be seen.
it is vile. it is like the other is reaching into your chest with their bare hands, shuffling your organs around, fundamentally changing your structure. it is feeling something claw its way up your throat, blocking it and constricting it, making you ask yourself if you’ll ever breathe again. it burns all the defenses one has built over time down to ash that the other is able to blow away with a small puff of air. it is something that makes you want to rip away the carefully constructed pieces of yourself you’ve created around your core, laying all the deepest parts of your conscience bleeding at the other’s feet.
it is beautiful. it is addicting, the feeling of not having to be afraid, because the other already knows you, sees you for who you are, even when you truly, desperately tried to hide it. they see the dark and still accept you despite it all- no, not despite it all, because of it all. it is intoxicating.
hannibal is sure, so sure, that what will has done is reject him. the heaviness of being seen is immediately followed by the disgusting, painful beyond belief, sting of betrayal. after all, he has tried to trap him, and will knows this.
the hot shame of having laid yourself bare in front of someone else has made hannibal lash out, desperate to protect the exposed, delicate parts he’s showed. his words ring in will’s head, and still then, laying on the floor, feeling the life drain from his body, he needs to reassure hannibal that no, he would’ve never taken his life from him. but to hannibal, his life is synonymous with his freedom. if he is not free, he is not alive.
and yet, as hannibal slices abigail’s throat while will begs him under them, as she lays down too, resigned to the fact she is destined to die on her father’s kitchen floor, forgiveness has already taken place inside hannibal’s heart. something he cannot explain, something he will carry with him.
mizumono is capable of showing its themes of love and betrayal in such a nuanced, precise way. the dialogue, the characters, are so finely tuned that nothing, not one single line, feels out of place.
i know this was a bit long, but hey, i just wanted to get it out. please, the only thing i ask in return is for the people who read this to reblog it- i’m incredibly proud of it! i’d like for it to be read by many! thank you for stopping by. ;)
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I haven't watched Hannibal and have no real interest in doing so but god I want to fully understand the au for this most recent post of yours so I can appropriately flip my shit over it. Is Dream human in it, like Hannibal? Or do we get some extreme level monsterfucker Hob? Dream being something that just wears the face of a man to go unnoticed?
Honestly, I haven't thought about it that deeply yet, but now that you ask... it could go like this:
after Dream escapes from Burgess, he does not change for the better - he becomes worse, darker, more violent. He feels drawn to Hob still, and Hob has waited for him to come back and is therefore very happy.
The thing with Hannibal is, he is a manipulating psychopath who is very charming but utterly without mercy or empathy, unless he likes someone. You wouldn't be able to tell though, from the outside. He wears a perfectly harmless person suite, is nice and attentive. And he will try and foster your worst and, as he sees it, "truest" nature.
Just like that, Dream is now Nightmare, but it doesn't initially show on the outside. Lucienne has an inkling and Death is worried but Hob is oblivious in the beginning how dark Dream has truly turned.
He wants revenge, and just having sent Alex and Paul to eternal nightmares isn't enough. He uses Hob to burn down Fawny Rig and proceeds to manipulate him into increasingly violent acts against all who ever visited that place. Dream secretly sends the Corinthian after Hob (like in Shiizakana, where Hannibal tests Will with Randall Tier) who manages to subdue the nightmare and Dream grows even fonder of Hob, having successfully proven his capability for murder. They hunt down Ethel and her son together and afterwards Hob starts having doubts, when he sees Dream's face bathed in the red glow of his ruby, victorious and clearly different from the times they met before. When Dream says that they will now have to kill a vortex, which turns out to be a young woman, Hob is not having it. His stranger was never this cruel, would never have fostered such violent tendencies in Hob before... He then starts to put the pieces together and tries to form a plan to stop Nightmare from growing more insane.
Or sth. LOL I came up with this as I wrote it, so idk if it will become more than one or two more sketches. I fear to start writing something new atm. I don't even know how it could end in a positive way, because Hannibal sure doesn't, even if it is very poetic and heart-wrenching.
But I do also like to simply put those two in scenes from the Hannibal series and cast them as psychopath and FBI agent in a human au, which is how this started.
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Thoughts on e6-e7 of The Terror
Continuing my first watch of The Terror, I just have to say... holy shit, that carnival!
I could tell something was going to go horribly wrong with how generically spooky it was, and I'd heard some vague spoilers of Dr. Stanley being a bad guy with respect to it. But he just straight-up arsoned the whole place in the most horrifically premeditated way possible. Possibly the most terrifying thing I've seen so far in the show, because while the Tunbaaq isn't real, overcrowded events with poor escape routes definitely are.
Also shocking was the fact that the guy Hickey stabbed there was an accident! I saw a second of that scene in an AMV pre-watching and I assumed that it was Hickey murdering things up Hannibal style. But actually Hickey was frantically trying to save the lives of everyone there and actively warning people that he was cutting through the tent. I cannot believe how much context completely 180'ed the meaning of that shot.
TBH if I hadn't watched e7 immediately afterwards I'd have wondered if the whole "Hickey is the show's villain" thing was an elaborate trick the Internet had agreed upon to prank new watchers. Even with e7 (when Hickey kills Irving and Farr) it seems hard for him to surpass Stanley's villainy? Maybe I'll be surprised.
The fact that the writers chose to have Hickey be the one coincidentally outside the tent, trying to save people, is... interesting. It's not that Hickey did anything particularly impressive or selfless what with moving the crates out of the way and cutting the tent open. But it's definitely a choice to make him more sympathetic (it could have been anyone outside the tent, in theory). I feel like I actually believe Hickey when he said that he found the dog with a broken leg (if he were lying, would he have admitted to killing the dog at all?) Relatedly, I'm glad we haven't heard anything more about the ship's cat—the dead dog and monkey were sad enough that I'm glad to be able to pretend that (somehow) the cat is happy and safe.
Also someone called me a Jopzier truther after my response to e1, and I was like "IDK, I don't even know these guys," but yes I 100% do ship Jopzier now. Jopson was so sweet taking care of Crozier when he wasn't feeling well! Plus Jopson was like "🥺🥺🥺 You didn't let me shave you or help you put on your underwear? 🥺🥺🥺 Plz dom me, sir, I can't function otherwise." and Crozier literally responded by promoting him. I feel like that might not have been what Jopson was aiming for, but still, sweet! (I started searching for Jopson content and immediately found Jopson/Hickey art, which I apparently also ship now despite first liking Jopson for the Jopzier angle.)
Speaking of shipping, I'm increasingly appreciating Goodsir/Lady Silence. You go girl, be the big spoon to your scared little man! I'm sure you two aren't doomed by the narrative at all...
I'm also disappointed that for all the fan content I've seen about Fitzjames's gender feels, he apparently doesn't even WEAR the dress? He just holds it up in front of himself??? Tragic. It looked like there were people in dresses at the carnival too, so he totally could have gotten away with it though only metaphorically; he literally might not have been able to escape the fire otherwise.
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Dreams of You, Wrap Around My Throat - Hannibal Lecter Imagine (Hannibal)
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Title: Dreams of You, Wrap Around My Throat
Pairing: Hannibal Lecter X Reader
Based On: Memories
Word Count: 900 words
Warning(s): mentions of attack/murder/cannibalism, nightmares
Summary: A view into the aftereffects of being with someone like Hannibal and not knowing the truth about him.
Author's Note: This is barely a Hannibal X Reader. This is more Will X platonic!reader with some trauma bonding thrown in the middle.
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It almost felt natural for Will and me to become friends.
We both loved dogs. We both preferred our own company to most other people. We both had some kind of connection to a cannibalistic serial killer.
The beauty of shared trauma.
There was a time when I would've called Hannibal the best thing in my life.
He was charming. He smiled at me and invited me to dinner. His kisses were passionate and intoxicating. He had this way of touching you once and making you feel like the most important person in the world. His words would leave you hanging on every sentence.
He was perfect at playing the role of the perfect partner.
And he did all of that while secretly feeding me people.
If he had it his way, I would've never learned the truth. Then, Jack attacked. Hannibal ended up almost killing him before almost killing Alana, Will, and me and killing Abigail.
His attack was so vivid. I thought the kitchen was empty. I had found Abigail and Will. Hannibal grabbed me. His arm had locked around my throat and the knife went into my back.
It almost felt like I went numb for a moment.
I fell to the ground. No... he threw me on the ground. My hands fell into the pool of blood under Abigail's body. I remember pushing myself away from it. That must've been when the pain kicked back in.
I was so convinced that I was going to die.
Waking up in the hospital was the worst and best turn of events. The best because I was alive. The worst because Hannibal was still out there, and he may not want me to stay that way.
The attack haunted me.
The relationship leading up to the attack haunted me.
I felt like an idiot for letting him into my life. For letting him have so much control over my life.
Will helped after the attack. My home was now a crime scene, so he let me stay in the upstairs room of his house. I tried to help him more than he helped me. That way it felt like a good reason to stay with him.
But I couldn't fight the impact that someone like Hannibal had on my life. Most nights, I could hide it. I could hide the nightmares. I would wake up before I started yelling, I would curl up under my blankets, and hide my sobs in my pillow. Will was never aware.
My cover fell apart one night.
I felt trapped. I thought that I was going to die again. It was all just so... much. I wanted to escape, and I couldn't. I couldn't wake up or outrun Hannibal.
I didn't start waking up until I felt someone grabbing at my arms. I woke up in a panic.
"Hey, hey-"
I tried to shove whoever grabbed me away.
"It's me, (Y/n), it's Will-"
"Let go!"
"It's Will," he repeated. "You're safe! You're okay!"
I finally managed to push myself back, hitting the wall by the head of my bed. I took a few deep breaths as my eyes trained on Will. I reached up, wiping away tears that I hadn't even realized were there.
"See? It's just me. Just Will."
I took another deep breath before pushing myself off the bed.
"(Y/n)," he called after me.
I slid my shoes on and continued my walk. I walked outside, ignoring Will following me.
"Hey, just wait," he grabbed my arm, trying to stop me. I jumped back from him. "Sorry. It's the middle of the night. Come back inside."
"I need the air."
"(Y/n)-"
"You should understand this," I snapped. "I... I can't do this."
He furrowed his eyebrows.
"If I fall asleep, I see what he did," I explained. "If I eat something, I want to throw it up because I can't trust it. If I see someone getting too close, I panic because I think it's him. I still feel everything he did to me. I am in hell, Will. I... I was meant to have a normal life. One that didn't involve all of this. And he gets to walk around who-the-fuck-knows, Europe while we sit here. Like trash on the beach."
I saw Will's shoulders droop slightly as I finished my rant.
"I feel like I'm suffocating on my memory of him," I continued. "And the worst part is that I miss. I miss kissing him, I miss getting held, I miss being loved. I am drowning and I don't know what to do."
He pulled me forward and hugged me.
Will wasn't one for hugging. I knew that. Maybe that's why I didn't pull away. I just hugged him away. I couldn't stop the sobs that came out after that. Will just hugged me tighter.
"I... I won't kiss you," he muttered, making me chuckle. He chuckled back. "I really don't think you'd like that. But I can hold you. And I do love you. Not the way that you loved Hannibal, but I love you."
"I love you too, Will," I said as I stepped back.
"I'll get him," he promised. "As soon as I can."
"Will-"
"I am going to stop him."
I wanted to believe him. I really did.
"How about a drink?"
I nodded.
It was the best idea Will had probably had in years.
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trenchcoathunnybee08 · 7 months
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Ok so I just finished Hannibal a few weeks ago and I need to talk about the choice to use a Windego as the depiction of the Chesapeake Ripper (Hannibal) in Wills hallucinations.
I’m going through a horror / folklore phase and that’s what got me to start the show in the first place. I’m sure it’s probably been said since the show came out but still I’d like to add my two cents.
In most folklore the Windego is a cannibalistic spirit that possess a person via a bight or their dreams and then kills and eats its victims (other people)
⬆️ [i actually didn’t know this part. I had just looked I up while I was writing this out. If anyone want to add to this bit go ahead. I’d love to hear more]
In other versions it’s a person driven to starvation who resorts to cannibalism and is then warped and changed by the act. (Normally minors lost in caves or early American settlers who run out of supplies during their travels)
The choice to have the Ripper depicted as that in Will’s hallucinations has such an important role in the story. If you go off the two routes of the creation of these creatures you can see that in a way they fit with each of them respectively. (Hannibal and Will)
That scene in the prison where Will is the one growing the antlers is a great reference to the fact that he’d been almost “possessed” to kill Abagail but it was really Hannibal who did it. (Yes I know she wasn’t actually dead but at the time Will believed he might have done it) From his prospective Will has no idea what happened to her. Not really at least. He can’t trust himself completely and nobody els dose either. He’s been warped by this unseen entity and has done things he would have never thought he could do before meeting Hannibal. And given they reveal later Hannibal had been manipulating him to have episodes/seizures and the blackouts it’s even more of a reference to the whole “possession” aspect of the monsters origin.
On the flip with Hannibal you can easily see he’s a cannibal so that obviously gives the connection to the creature. Here’s the part where I think I might be reaching so just stick with me. Hannibal in season 2 tells Chiyoh that he didn’t kill his sister but he did eat her. Now I don’t know what happened. I haven’t seen any of the movies and I haven’t read the books so this part is purely my own theory’s and speculation.
The theory goes like this- he and his sister were taken (Where I have no idea) bad stuff happens and one of their captors killed Mischa and somehow Hannibal escapes. Between her death and his escape either he is driven to starvation and thus is changed or he killed his captor and eats her as a way of honoring her death. Personally I lean more for the first. (In both situations he eats her as a forme of keeping her with him either for survival or simply emotional) Thus he is changed and she was his first step onto this new path.
(For this I’ll be going off my first theory)
So the way I pictured it things go as such, Mischa dies, he eats her, and presumably she becomes his first, then he escapes. The man who Chiyoh was guarding was likely their captor and caused her death. Given we know he was a cannibal we can also assume the possibility that Mischa died and Hannibal was driven to either starvation and ate her or the man forced him to eat her. After Hannibal was likely still young so say he escapes, after he gets back home enlists the help of Chiyoh and they captured Mischa’s killer. Hannibal tried to kill the man but Chiyoh stops him and instead they imprisoned him. Hannibal leaves at some point after and goes to presumably Florence where he becomes El Mostró. We have a general idea of what follows.
All this is to say that in the case of Dr. Hannibal Lector he was likely turned to cannibalism due to the death of his sister and connects directly to one of the possible origins for these cannibalistic creatures.
In the case of Will Gram his connection is via “possession” or through his subconscious/dreams at the hands of Hannibal. Will might have already had a darkness in him but Hannibal most certainly was the catalyst for its eventual release in season 3. Will might not have become a full blown cannibal like Hannibal in the end but if they did survive the fall and they were at Bedelias home about to eat her leg he clearly isn’t against it anymore and thus he has been changed.
The choice to depict Hannibal as a Windego was a perfect literary choice not only character wise but simply thematically and story wise.
It’s just such a fitting thing to have him depicted as that creature and then to have them parallel him with Will in the prison growing the antlers!? Genius! The writing for this show is insane! Dont even get me started on the individual murders and throughout the show! The tree?! And mural killer ??!? I could go for hours on those !
I’ve only just finished it but it truly is full of such good writing. Absolutely beautiful.
[note: i have the name of the creature crossed out and mentioned as little as possible because supposedly saying it can attack the creature like whistling at night and I don’t need that even if I’m not very superstitious so there is a reason for that. It is entirely unrelated to this post though]
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red-sky-in-mourning · 2 years
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loaded dialogue in ep 10: ed and stede
during a rewatch of ep 10 last night (the first time i haven't rushed through it with one eye closed, waiting for the pain to end), a couple of lines of dialogue jumped out at me as having a deeper meaning than they might seem on the surface. these meanings might be obvious or might not, but i'm going to talk about them anyway.
ed: when lucius writes down ed's lyrics for him in the blanket fort, he asks, "i'm wondering what's happening in the song? why are you hanging on?" ed says, "no, it's not about me. it's someone else holding on." "yeah?" lucius asks. "someone entirely fictional," ed answers. this last line is the one i want to talk about. so, we know this line serves several purposes: we can see ed is being a little defensive, and so we know he's lying to lucius (because obviously the lyrics are about ed). and this lie, being rather unbelievable, prompts lucius to treat ed kindly by playing along with the "fictional character" motif, while it also gives the audience a small moment of comic relief within an otherwise somber scene. this is the surface reading.
if you listen very closely to the way taika delivers that line, though—it's not actually played to be defensive or humorous. the words can have that effect, because we're looking for comic relief in this preposterous scenario of blackbeard hiding in a blanket fort and making up song lyrics—but there's a perceptible and firm tone of wryness mixed with disappointment in the way ed says "someone entirely fictional." aside from being a testament to the top-caliber acting in this episode, i believe that taika/ed says the line this way because at this point, ed truly feels like his life, and his very personhood, have been split in two by love and heartbreak. (it reminds me a lot of that exchange between hannibal lecter and will graham in season 3 of hannibal: "where does the difference between the past and the future come from?" "mine? before you and after you." i think ed is feeling much the same way will graham is feeling at that point.)
when ed says that his lyrics are about a fictional character, there's a little bit of truth in that statement, at least from an emotional perspective—he feels like the ed that fell in love and had the promise of love in return from stede—the ed that got to be an excited, happy, brand new person for half a day—is something of a fictional character. he's someone who doesn't exist anymore, because stede doesn't exist in his life anymore. i think this is why ed starts to emulate stede's "people-positive management style" with the crew when he's working through his heartbreak early on. if he can't have love and affection, maybe the next best thing is to try friendship? he's tired of being the "bloodthirsty blackbeard" and stalking around like a shark all day; stede taught him that you can be kind and collaborative and still have all sorts of eccentric fun—sounds like a decent escape from blackbeard, even if stede isn't in the picture anymore, right? of course, we know that plan fails thanks to izzy—and maybe it wouldn't have held up in the long run anyway, as ed worked deeper through his stages of grief—but we'll see how ed is grappling with the various "fictional character" versions of himself he's created, come season 2.
stede: when mary tells stede at the dinner table, before her art showing, that she's not going to abandon the life she's created in his absence "just because you've decided to un-abandon your family on a whim," stede pauses, thinks for a moment, and then says, "well, i object to the word 'whim'."
stede's protest is, i think, meant to be read on the surface as a defensive statement (much like ed's reply to lucius). it also plays along with stede's self-centered, naïve, somewhat pompous characterization—traits that stede displays to an exaggerated nature after he returns home and faces tension with mary (which i read as a defense mechanism in itself, but that's a topic for another post). so, yeah, stede can run away to become a pirate on a whim, and he can come back home and un-abandon his family on a whim, and male, upper-class privilege grants him the ability to do this—but that doesn't make it okay, even if stede's "i object to the word 'whim'" makes it seem like he thinks he should be partially absolved of her criticism. mary suggests as much about stede's agency in her speech, and the audience is meant to agree with her—and not with stede. much like ed's defensive statement to lucius, stede's objection to mary is played for comic effect during a tense scene. but i think there's more going on under the surface here.
i think stede is being defensive in an effort to deflect the sting (and truth) of mary's words, but the hesitance of his response suggests that there's more in his thoughts than just contradiction. i think mary's suggestion that stede was motivated to come back home only on "a whim" probably knocks him straight back into trauma-ville and the backwoods of the academy with chauncey, as his brain feverishly reminds him of that awful incident that served as the catalyst for his shock-induced, barefoot flight back to bridgetown. that was not a whim—that was a full-blown trauma response, and a decision that stede makes only half-consciously and not in sound mental capacity. and although mary doesn't know any of the details at this point about stede and ed, the act of grace, the academy, and what happened with chauncey, to stede's tumultuous and trauma-addled mind, mary's words must sound an awful lot like mocking. which stede is used to, of course—but it must be especially hard to hear from his wife after thinking he'd done the right thing, in the end, by coming home.
"whim" is unintentionally and cruelly belittling to the terrifying ordeal stede has recently faced—losing the man he loves (to an ex!) and then getting him back almost in the same breath, being captured by the english navy, being sentenced to death and almost executed in front of his crew, being kissed and claimed by the man he almost lost the day before, and then being held at gunpoint in the middle of the night by his childhood bully and told that he's an inhuman monster who defiles beautiful things—and that's why stede objects to mary's use of the word. not just because he wants to feel justified or because he's being defensive, and not just to give us some comic relief. it's a simple statement, but it's meant to be loaded—just as is ed's admission to lucius that his lyrics are about a fictional character (i.e., the Ed that Was).
if there's a reunion scene between stede and ed in season 2 where stede tries to explain why he ran and ed isn't having it, i think it'll be interesting to see if stede gets upset about ed's refusal to understand the "chauncey impact," given that this was such a monumental event for stede. most fic i've read portrays stede as being endlessly patient and understanding with a heartbroken ed despite his refusal to listen, but i wonder if we shouldn't be considering more carefully stede's need for care and attention to his trauma, as well.
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Hello! First of all, I just want to say that I really love reading about your thoughts and insights of Hannibal. Since there are some details that confuse me, I want to see your opinion about them. Do you think Will manipulated Hannibal into giving himself up? He said: "You turned yourself in so i would always know where you were. but you'd only do that if i rejected you ." And also:
"I knew you’d keep running if I kept chasing you. I knew you wanted me to know exactly where I could find you, when I needed to."
Some people think that Will was just bluffing to hurt Hannibal and to make it not so obvious that he was plotting behind the scene. Others think that he was so obsessed with Hannibal at that point, but he also hadn't ready yet, so he rejected Hannibal and eventually he would be imprisoned, and Will would be able to find him easily once he finally sorted through his emotions.
So what do you think?
Hi! Thank you so much, I’m glad you find my metas useful! 
Hannibal giving himself up and Will later claiming it as his manipulation has always evoked contradictory feelings in me. 
I don't buy that Will knowingly and consciously manipulated Hannibal into something like this. Hannibal would only give himself up if he loved Will enough to do it for him. Will didn't know Hannibal loves him, not completely. Otherwise, there would be no need to ask Bedelia for confirmation three years later and for that scene to be presented like such a big moment. Will's main issue with Hannibal at that point was that after seeing Chiyoh as abandoned project and Bedelia as his replacement, he thought he overestimated Hannibal's feelings for him, that he didn't mean to him all that much. Will is insecure, so he just couldn't know Hannibal would do something this large, that he would spend the entire day outside, in the cold, just to give himself up.
Just in Mizumono, Hannibal lashed out and hurt him/killed Abigail for being betrayed and thinking Will wanted to steal his freedom. I don't see any events that happened afterward that would persuade Will Hannibal would make such a sacrifice for him. Especially after brain-eating. Also, in his Mic Drop conversation, he deliberately lies to Hannibal several times. In fact, about 80% of his speech is a lie aimed to hurt Hannibal and trick those who listen to them.
Another thing is that Will had no need for such an unreliable method. If he wanted to see Hannibal in prison, he would have tricked him into thinking everything is forgiven and then he would have ratted him out. That would be much more reliable. 
At the same time, I think a part of Will wondered if something like this might happen - a largely subconscious part that he rarely listens to but which told him Hannibal loves him back in E9 of S2. This part might have seen it as a test of a sort, needing proof of Hannibal’s devotion, and later, when Will realized it, he chose to exaggerate his involvement to hurt and shock Hannibal even more.
Their conversation in Digestivo also implies a part of protectiveness toward Hannibal from Will to me. He’s not ready to elope with him like he likely was at the start of S3 - he needs a break. But he’s also not willing to try and arrest him himself - his words are aimed at inflicting pain that he knows will chase Hannibal away. In fact, when Hannibal doesn’t move, Will even says pointedly, “Goodbye, Hannibal.” And still, according to the script: Hannibal stands there a moment, rejected. Will sighs and averts his eyes. Hannibal finally goes, leaving Will alone. So Will did everything to make Hannibal leave, and not just to leave him alone, but to actually escape. The entire day passes after this and Will clearly doesn’t call Jack or the police, giving Hannibal a chance to get as far away as he wants. 
If we accept that Will predicted his actions 100%, then I do think it’s him feeling too tired and upset to keep playing and wanting Hannibal gone for a while, in a place where he’d be able to find him.
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narvana27 · 2 years
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                        Moment's when Jack Spicer was evil for real:
We all see Jack as this "wannabe evil boy" who just tries to be evil so hard, and tries so hard to impress the real villains of the series like Chase or Hannibal, but he got some real evil moments himself 😏
1. Ep.9, S.1- "My Homey Omi"- When he wanted to run over Dojo in the abandoned train station and was mad when Dojo survived. Some people say they were traumatized by this scene and I can't blame them. I mean - he really wanted to do this, and his anger also was real.
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2. Ep.52, s.3 - "Time after Time part 1" - When Omi got his brilliant idea of taking his stoopid ass back in time to prevent Chase from becoming evil there's a lot of things going on. I mean multiple universes, multiple versions of reality and events. The first thing that happens after Omi freezes himself is Jack attacking the temple and actually winning over monks. (I get that they were probably in bad morals at the time, but let's not act like the 3 of them wouldn't actually beat Jack's ass as usual just because Omi wasn't there. C'mon, a better explanation would be the version in which Jack, Wuya and Chase were doing this together and then he screwed them over and prisoned them with the monks, but...Whatever). He built the prison they couldn't escape. Neither monks, neither villains, who were in even worse position, cuz they were tortured. Wuya chained and in a cheerleading costume... Which is a little bit weird to me tbh, but I can understand it was in the name of Jack wanting Wuya to feel embarrassed, or he just wanted to objectify her. Chase - almost naked, water dripping on his head, chained and with yellow paint brush smudging on his abs. Hannibal in his big form in a cage that is clearly too small for him. Monks prisoned in one cell, old, eating some nasty food. I mean Kim had bones in her hair instead of some hairband or whatever, so... Yea, bad conditions in general. Not to mention they were patrolled constantly, probably 24h/7 day a week by robots, and they had to fight like gladiators even tho they were 80 at the point Omi found them, so Jack could feel "even more evil" and just feel like he's Julius Caesar. I mean yikes, you can't deny he had some fantasy there.
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3. Ep. 34, s. 2 - "The new order" - Jack traps Chase Young(!😳) in Sphere of Yun and takes over his palace, while still making comments about Chase and how old he is. Maybe it's not that serious and big, he didn't even hurt Chase in any way, and didn't seem to think about it, but imo it was still pretty badass considering how Jack was always licking Chase's ass, just for him to like him a little bit more.
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4. I don't know which episode it was, but remember when Wuya turned her back on
Jack...again, and for once he was not having it? He again was acting like a total
badass and boss towards her. He even said she has to be gone by the time he gets home. He was cold and said he doesnt need her cuz he built a device that detects wu instead of her, so... Outstanding move, Wuya:0, Jacko: 1!
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5. When he broke into monks dreams:
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6. When there was no pudding left xD 😂
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darling-i-read-it · 2 years
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Nero d'Alvola
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Hannibal Lecter x reader x Will Graham
Hannibal Re-Write Series Masterlist (my season 4 version)
Word Count: 2.4k
Warnings: death, murder, detailed description of dead bodies, cannablism, really eleborate crime scene, burned bodies, knives, guns
Author’s Note: the relationship between miriam and will is the one im most excited to flesh out through this season lol so this one was fun for me
Summary: Hannibal makes a call to Freddie. The reader slightly loses her shit some more.
I don’t own these characters. They belong to author/director
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Freddie was closing in but not as fast as she wanted to. She found that Florence had a gorgeous array of suits that she could get and was happy enough to help herself. She knew though that that was not the reason she was there. She was there to find Hannibal before Jack did. It wasn’t an easy task but it was one she was doing, slowly but surely.
If she could just narrow down which of these many buildings housed a murderer, that would be enough.
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Alana needed to keep her family safe. Staying at her house was going to drive her mad. Sitting on the couch, waiting for something to go wrong. Margot could tell that her wife was growing more antsy by the moment. Something Margot would catch Alana staring out the window defensively, like something was going to jump through the glass and shatter the life she had built for herself.
That’s why Margot suggested they go.
Alana put her cane on the ground as she walked into the clear white room. She would have thought Chilton would have gotten out of the hospital by now but he was far too burned to do that.
“I’m surprised you aren’t dead,” Alana commented as she walked into the room, hair up in a bun, red suit on. Margot walked beside her. It had taken some convincing to get Alana this far away from their son but eventually she caved. She needed to take some of the power back for herself, and have some sort of leverage for when Hannibal eventually showed up.
Chilton looked up at her.
“Oh yes, I’ve been informed that you can’t speak very well,” Alana said, looking down at him. She was pleased to be standing above him. He had always been the slimy kind. She had taken his job after all, they had never been friends.
His skin was still charred. He didn’t even look like himself. She wouldn't be able to recognize him like this from far away.
“Why are you here?” he asked, teeth grinding as he spoke, the words just barely able to escape his thin lips.
“We’ve come to ask you about Will and Y/N Graham. Ask what you knew about where they might be,” Margot said. Chilton’s eyes, veiny white, darted around the room.
“I don’t know,” he told them after some effort. “You had Hannibal,” he said, referring to when Alana had Hannibal under her care.
“And you had Will. Hannibal is slightly predictable but there are other variables at work here that we should take into account.”
“The only person,” Chilton said and it seemed to be taking him a lot of effort to speak. His chest rose and fell a couple of times before he was able to speak again. “That is allowed to hurt them.” Another long pause. “Is Hannibal himself.”
Margot let that mull over in the air for a moment.
“Possessions,” Chilton said.
“They’re his possessions,” Margot breathed and nodded. Like he didn’t quite love them, further than Hannibal could love. They were things he could play with until he got bored of them.
The barbaric idea struck Margot but it did not strike Alana as she held her cane tight in her hand.
===
Will Graham was not an avid lover of the arts. Hannibal knew this when he decided the three of you had to live together. You could grow to love the things he adored, though it may take some time. But Will would always be the fisherman that liked to use 2 in one shampoo and conditioner. Hannibal didn’t think he minded this very often. Just that it was odd, considering his tastes.
But Will had his own beauty.
He was especially beautiful now, with his hand in stabbing someone's last breath out of them. Blood splattered onto his face, his clean curls frazzled.
“Why did you do that?” Hannibal asked, looking down at the awfully rude dinner guest. It was the fourth death at this house and would surely not be the last. It was however, the first death Will did of his own volition.
“Because he was talking too much,” Will spat.
“I really should get rid of these knives,” you muttered, looking down. If Will didn’t know better he would think you were being held hostage here. You were always just slightly too monotone, just a bit uninterested. “You all keep using them to kill people.”
“You do as well,” Hannibal argued.
“On the contrary,” you muttered. “Will killed this one. You killed the first one and the second one. Bedelia was killed by none of us.” Hannibal mulled that over.
“I’ve been taking all the fun, I apologize,” he said. You shook your head. Will thought the expression on your face looked far too much like Bedelia’s. Angry, helpless. “It’s quite alright.” You picked up the napkin that was on your lap. “I want to go and lay down.”
===
Will and you were in bed while Hannibal stayed up just a little bit longer in the gentle glow of the lamp light. His fingers drummed the phone. He didn’t like to use it, considering where he was at.
But he was now contemplating his happy little family.
Things were coming together. Soon, he imagined, you would come back around. You would be rough around the edges and more ruthless but you would be back. Will was already right where Hannibal figured he would be.
He didn’t want this to be ruined by Jack Crawford again.
This solution was temporary, he knew that.
But it was all he could think to do right now. It would buy him the necessary time to move the chess pieces around the board as he saw fit.
He picked up the phone and dialed.
It rang only twice and then Freddie Lounds picked up.
“Hello, Freddie Lounds here.” She sounded just as she had the last time he laid eyes on her. Pestering, quick, squeaky.
“Hello Freddie.”
Her breath caught in her throat.
Freddie was standing in a wine shop, eyes wide. She walked outside briskly and leaned against the store window. She very quickly went to record the call on her phone.
“Hannibal. Are you aware you’re the talk of the town back in America?”
“I had a hunch.”
“Why are you calling me?” she questioned. He looked through the door at the bedroom. He could see only the blanket indents of yours and Will’s feet but they fueled him with confidence.
“I need a favor.”
“Oh? And what do I get in return?”
“You get the scoop of a lifetime Miss Lounds. But only if you lead our friend Jack astray. Do you have a pen?”
===
Alana swished her wine, looking at her wide. She was skittish, though she was acting like she wasn’t. She was trying and failing to stay grounded.
“I could have ended this so long ago,” she mused. Margot was pleased she was talking about it.
“How would you know it would end up here?”
“I should have known,” Alana muttered, more to herself than Margot. “I knew Hannibal. Will and Y/N were my friends. I should have done something the second Jack wanted Will to work for him.”
“You were clearly otherwise indisposed.”
“You promised not to speak about that,” Alana said but she was laughing. Margot shrugged.
“We’ve all made mistakes.” “My mistake was a murderer,” Alana breathed. “And then he kept making mistakes. Mistake after mistake.”
“By that logic it’s also my fault. I knew Hannibal and Will and Y/N. Why should you be the only one at fault?”
“I know what Y/N would say,” Alana said fondly. “She would blame only one person. One man.”
===
When Will’s breath was even you slipped out of bed. Your bare feet padded on the ground to the bathroom. Hannibal had gone to sleep forty five minutes ago and he too was now under. You watched the two of them as they breathed, trying to feel something for them.
You knew you loved both of them. In your mind you knew that.
But the only thing you could feel was hatred for Jack Crawford. Spite. Vengeance.
You put on one of the suits Hannibal had given you and slipped on your boots. You grabbed the kitchen knife and walked down the stairs to the street level. The knife was cool against your side, where you had kept it so you wouldn’t alarm anyone.
You had checked to see what the last FBI plane had arrived and where they were staying.
You hailed a cab and asked it to take you to the hotel. Fancy. Something Bella would have chosen for Jack when she was alive.
The drive was unbearably long, a good thirty minutes. You told the cab driver not to wait and then you were there, so close to Jack Crawford’s final death. You wondered if he would have the scar you gave him. You thought about reopening it, cutting him where he should be cut, where Abigail had been cut twice.
It would be poetic.
It would be deserved.
You walked up to the front desk.
“I’m sorry,” you said, pulling up your old receptionist voice. “My dear Jack Crawford is staying here but didn’t tell me the number. Could you help me?”
“I can’t give you that information ma’am.”
“Oh I know but it’s a date and I want to surprise him.” You leaned over the desk. “Just lookup Crawford for me. Please.”
The receptionist stared at you and your suit. He was clearly too tired to fight with you. He put some words into the computer and shook his head.
“There’s no Jack Crawford here. There’s a Miram Crawford.” He narrowed his eyes on you. You leaned back, straightening your posture.
“Oh. His wife. Awful timing. Can you give me that number?”
“361.”
“You’re a dear.” You slid a sizable amount of cash to him and walked to the elevator. You rode it up to the third floor. You knocked on room 361, standing at the side so that Miriam couldn’t see you through the peephole.
She opened the door slowly and you quickly moved so you were in front of her, pushing her inside the room. She gasped. You knocked her gun out of her hand and held the knife to her stomach, drawing blood through her white t-shirt.
“Miriam, Miriam, Miriam,” you whispered. “What are you doing here? Jack too scared to face me in person?”
She didn’t say anything. You were too impatient to be nice. You jabbed the knife edge a little further. Her eyes went wide.
“I won’t say anything.”
“I know Jack Crawford is here,” you whispered. “Where is he?”
“He’s not here.”
“Where Miriam?” “He isn’t here!” You rolled your eyes and took a step back.
“That was rude of me.” You brushed off your shirt and leaned down, picking up her gun. He leaned against the window, her back to the glass. She was petrified. She had met you before, or maybe she hadn’t, maybe she had just heard of you. What had they called you in the papers when Will was in jail? The Bloody Valentines. “Miriam, where is Jack?”
“I don’t know,” she said, trying to even her breathing but failing. “He doesn’t even know that I’m here. I-I came here to help him but he didn’t want me in the field already.” “I can see why,” you mused. “You aren’t ready to face Hannibal.”
“I could arrest you right now,” she said, voice stiff.
“Without this?” You waved the gun around. “I doubt it.”
“He’s gonna get you,” she promised. “Jack is gonna get you and Will and Hannibal. You’re all bad people.”
“Are you trying to convince yourself or me?”
“You should just turn yourself in. Tell me where Hannibal is.”
“I should. It’s not like you can take him.” You cleared your throat and put the gun down on the table that was between the two of you. “Miriam you’re in way over your head.” “You and Will didn’t start like this. Will was nice.”
“Will killed a man at dinner yesterday,” you told her and her eyes fell. The idea of Will in her head was so heroic and helpful, albeit slightly jittery. Why would he do this? Why would you?
“Jack’s in Florence he just isn’t with you. That’s fine.” You held the knife in your hand and walked up to her. Her breathing got more erratic as you raised the knife. The edge hit the wall just beside her head. She jumped. “Tell him I’m ready for him to face his fears.”
She went to grab the knife to fight you back but you had already left the room. She scrambled for the gun, rushing forward to the door but at the end of the hall the elevator doors were closing with you behind them.
====
“Are you sure Freddie said Hannibal was staying here?” Theadore asked. He looked up at the warehouse. Jack couldn’t shake the feeling that it was eerily similar to the one he had found Miraim in after he thought she was dead.
“Yes,” Jack said, voice monotone. He took out his gun and walked to the front door. He knocked only once. When there was no answer he kicked the door open, Theadore walking behind him inside.
It was a large empty warehouse that smelled vaguely of decomposing corpses. There was a body in the middle of the room against a pillar. Flowers pooling around the floor, a dead blue face with flowers coming out of the severed neck. Several limbs were missing.
Theadore gasped, gagging.
“Bedelia?”
4x05
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Harry Potter FanFiction I greatly enjoy (it’s just tomarry and sevitus)
Fair warning, I’m not good at describing stuff, and most of these are not complete (yet) but if you have similar tastes as I do then you’ll definitely like these stories.
Meddling of a Mischief Maker - by Athy
https://archiveofourown.org/works/5380535/chapters/12427268
I enjoy this fic because it shows a more human Voldemort with him still being an asshole as per usual. They do a good job of having Voldemort believably change into a not crazy murderous bastard haha. It also has Sirius interacting with Voldemort and for some reason I find those scenes hilarious in any fic I read.
“Harry's being a horcrux is a bit reworked here in this AU Story set during the summer after 5th year. A Mischief Maker intervenes in the Ministry during Voldemort and Dumbledore's duel, changing the course history. MorallyGrey!Dumbledore, Sirius, Restored Souls, HP/TR”
Draw Me After You (Let Us Run) - by ToAStranger @toast-ranger-to-a-stranger
https://archiveofourown.org/works/22327684/chapters/53334382
This story is a delight, it’s tone is very good and they do a great job of writing in the characters ‘voices’ for their pov’s. I especially like the posh way Voldemort talks and acts. This story is also hilarious on top of just being a very good slowburn, AND it has Sirius, which as you might have guessed, I love dearly. They also don’t bash any of the characters, and instead make them well rounded but flawed individuals, which I really appreciate.
“Harry Potter,” comes the soft, sibilant hiss of a voice he has heard in his dreams, in his nightmares, in his waking hours for years.
Slowly, carefully, Harry twists over and pushes up onto his hands and knees. He stays there, short breath fogging in front of his face, and his pursuer lets him. Harry has no doubt of that; he’s being allowed this respite. This small moment to catch his bearings, heart pounding in his ears, blood singing.
“It seems I have finally caught you.”
Consuming Shadows - by Child_OTKW @childotkw
https://archiveofourown.org/works/7040089/chapters/16011331
I’ve read two of childOTKW’s fics and both of them are fantastically written and attention grabbing stories. This one was the first one I read, and it has a very interesting take on lily Potter (one which I really enjoy) and the plot can leave you on the edge of your seat at times. The characterization is great, and the process of Harry and Tom getting to know each other is done very well.
“His attention skipped passed the students and moved to the politicians’ pavilion. His gaze locked with crimson, and he nearly faltered under the sheer hunger in those eyes.
It unnerved him how fixated the man was on his dirtied, exhausted figure.
But what troubled him more was the slight smirk he could make out on the man’s lips. It was almost pleased.
On the night of the attack, Lily managed to escape with her infant son, but at the cost of her husband’s life. Distraught and distrusting of her friends, she fled to France with Harry, to raise him away from the corruption in Britain and the rising influence of the Dark Lord. She trains him to the best of her abilities, shaping him into a dangerous, intelligent and powerful wizard.
But when Britain re-establishes the Triwizard Tournament, and Harry is forced to return to his once-home, he finds himself questioning whether he really wants to kill the Dark Lord. Voldemort finds an unexpected challenge in the child, and as his intrigue and amusement grows, so too does the desire to possess the spark in those defiant green eyes.”
A story that is kind of similar but not really: The Train to Nowhere
You Belong To Me (I Belong To You) - by child_OTKW
https://archiveofourown.org/works/11270490/chapters/25203408
This is a story inspired by the manwha ‘At The End Of The Road’ by Haribo. A comic I read before reading this, which is very good I recommend it. They do not take the exact plot from the comic though, obviously changing significant details for it to work properly as a Tomarry Fic, but one main thing stays the same, which is that this is a body swap. Honestly I really enjoy childOTKW’s works, and this is no exception. The characterization is wonderful as always, and Harry is Fantastic. Plus I’ve always been a fan of time travel fics. (Fair warning this is another slow burn and Harry centric)
“What I find absolutely fascinating,” Riddle said, stalking closer, “is you.” He marched forward, backing Harry up until he was pinned to the cool wall of the common room. “Do you know why?”
“No. And I’ll be honest here, Riddle, I don’t particularly care.”
The taller boy grinned at him, small yet infinitely pleased. “That. Right there.” One hand rose and brushed some of Harry’s fringe from his face. “Nathan Ciro was a spineless little boy too afraid of his own shadow to dare even glance in my direction. But you…”
He leaned closer, “You look at me like you want to stab me.”
“After an accident, Auror Harry Potter wakes up in the body of fourteen year old Nathan Ciro, a tormented Slytherin who recently tried to end his own life. Seeking answers to his strange predicament, Harry returns to Hogwarts, and causes quite the stir through staff and students - especially when they come to realise he is not the same boy as before.
He tries to avoid suspicion, but as his quest for the truth draws more and more attention to him, Harry begins to think that he might not like what he will discover.”
Some Bonus AU tomarry
A Thousand Paths Among The Stars - by Haplessshippo @haplesshippo
https://archiveofourown.org/works/12015060/chapters/27191238
This is a star trek au and it’s honestly my favorite tomarry au fic. Granted, I am a huge sci-fi fan. There’s also a bit of a twist at the end, or at least it surprised me, due to the way we usually expect tomarry plots to go.
“Harry Potter, newly appointed Captain of the Marauder and son of the famous Captain James Potter, was falling apart at the seams. His crew didn’t respect him, he was lost in the empty expanse of space, nightmares plagued his sleep, and his Commander deserved the Captain position more than he did. Good thing multiple attempts on his life and a vicious warlord after his head was all it took to turn it all around.
Alternatively, that space fic in which Harry Potter almost dies too many times, Tom Riddle slowly becomes the most smitten fool on the ship, and the rest of the crew are all just a bunch of assholes with popcorn watching the show. And exploding ships, don't forget the exploding ships.”
The Matchmaker - by TanninTele
https://archiveofourown.org/works/16507676/chapters/38664089
I am ALSO a huge true crime fan, and this story has a criminal that kinda reminds me of one that might appear in Hannibal (but with less murder). I enjoy the characterization, though tom is pretty tame in this compared to more cannon fics, considering he’s not the criminal and instead an investigator. Harry is also different from how people usually portray him, but I still like it.
“'The Matchmaker' is a serial abductor whose modus operandi consists of pairing two same-sex individuals together in a coffin, six feet underground - buried alive. He isn't a killer. He's a kidnapper with morals, and Detective Chief Inspector Tom Riddle finds himself obsessed with solving the case.
Unfortunately for Tom, the Matchmaker is just as intent on knowing him.”
And on to the Sevitus Stories
Far Beyond A Promise Kept - by oliversnape
https://archiveofourown.org/works/547431/chapters/974693
A classic, Harry stays with snape and unintentionally proves all his assumptions wrong and makes snape care about him. Both the stories have this aspect, but this one has snape a bit nicer from the get go. Probably because it takes place during the third book, so they’ve only known each other two years. It’s quite wholesome though, and I rather enjoy the progression of their relationship.
“Snape never wanted anyone to know of his promise to Dumbledore, but has realised that he can protect Potter much better by taking a less passive role in the boy's training. Actually liking Harry Potter has never been part of his plan. mentor/guardian.”
Crime And Punishment - by melolcatsi
https://archiveofourown.org/works/24102232/chapters/58018174
Snape and Harry have way more of a rocky start in this one, and Snape having to pick Harry up from the police station Really Doesn’t Help Snape’s opinion of him. This story very realistically shows the progression of their relationship, going from enemies to family, and near the ‘end’ (it’s not finished) it becomes very wholesome with Snape trying to help Harry with his mental and physical health after years of abuse/ neglect.
“Harry is accused of burglary. The Dursleys leave him to rot. Dumbledore sends Snape to remedy the situation. Harry finds himself in the care of an irate Snape. Not slash, gen-fic w/ focus on Sevitus relationship. Angst galore. Warnings: coarse and suggestive language, mentions of abuse/neglect. Un-betaed and un-Britpicked.”
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