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Just an interesting note about why people talking about 3H might think Manaketes and dragon degeneration are a whole series-wide thing: the last five games before it featured dragon degeneration as a plot point whether in game or through retcons, and of them only Fates didn't classify them as Manaketes yet the Awakening kids still reference their Manakete friend Nah rampaging in the DLC. When fans are so saturated with that idea over and over, they might forget the stories where it was different, such as Elibe and Tellius, and it might also explain the now prevalent "humanity has no need for gods" mindset that FE15 quote gave us, too.
Actually, if FE13 brought Dragon degeneration throught whatever the fuck Nah and Nowi rampaging for Destruction fur the lolz - it completely forgave to give the same trait to Tiki who’s older than those two.
In every game from 13 to 16 there’s a way to avoid degeneration and it’s supposed to be the equivalent of having a dragonstone. Anankos gave his to his BFF Cadras, for some reason so without it he grew mad. Corrin has one thanks to Azura.
Ignoring Nah and Nowi, FE Archanea is consistent with its lore/BG, if you have a dragonstone, you can live retaining your sanity even if you are old as fuck (Bantu) but if you don’t, you will “degenerate”.
I don’t hold it against fans, if they didn’t play the older games, to ignore the differents dragons in the Franchise or something, or if some did play, they might have forgotten, I always forget stuff myself tbh.
Thing is, there is always a way in those games to prevent the dragonfolk from being mad/degenerating. In this franchise, but even if those games, the ending message is never “oh well dragons have to be killed else they’ll degenerate it’s sad for them really” - except, maybe, in FE15, but FE15 shares its lore with FE11/12 and while it was too bad Mila’n’Duma degenerated, the dragonstone solution had already been came up with in Archanea, iirc, Medeus became a manakete.
Why Duma’n’Mila didn’t do it? Idk, did they depart before the dragonstones were invented, did they refuse to seal their powers because they didn’t want to transform in a weakened state, idk.
Just saying, FE as a franchise has never been fond of the “let’s kill this sentient being before it inevitably becomes feral because it’s in their nature” trope, and I’m glad for it. 
The ending message for FE15 will forever be blurry, but I always read it as “thank you for everything you did for us, now we can walk on our own so you don’t need to look after us anymore” “yes but if humanity does shit i’ll be back” “don’t worry we won’t do shit” rather than “we don’t need gods anymore fuck you and die plz”.
Also, given how FE15 is a sort of prequel to FE13, funny to note how in Walmart’s land there is place with a shrine where Tiki sleeps and apparently people listen to her because she’s the voice of the “divine”, also, humanity was saved by a dragon who doesn’t want to be called God who manages to send a princess back in time to prevent the advent of a worm-like abomination and without this the worm-like abomination would have ruled over the world destroying everything in its wake because, uh, it was angry or something.
If you really want a game without gods and things still being shitty I suggest FE4′s first gen, the Loptyr goons are just goods, but the continent is a powder keg because people from Jugdral are shitty, and it’s 100% dragon free (until the second gen)!
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