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supercantaloupe · 1 year
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What is the antisemitism in TUC season 1? Does it have to do with Wally the golem?/gen
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[ID: an ask from an anonymous tumblr user that reads "would love to hear more about the antisemitism in unsleeping city! was a while ago that i watched it and can't remember what you might be referencing but definitely want to be aware of it.]
no, it's not about willy the golem -- i actually think willy is a great addition to the season (even if i wish we got to see more of him), and an indication to me that brennan/the showrunners were definitely trying to be sincere and inclusive. i want to make it clear that i don't think anything antisemitic in tuc is there intentionally; i think it's there out of simple ignorance, which is also why i think fans don't frequently see/comment on it either. but i don't think that's an excuse, either.
my grief with tuc1 is largely centered around its portrayal of robert moses as the villain. especially by making him a greedy, power-hungry lich working en league with bloodsucking vampires. (also his mini is literally a green skinned skull man in a suit. yikes.) here's the thing; i know robert moses was a real life horrible person, who actually was racist and powerhungry etc etc. and i know that robert moses, the real actual person, was jewish. my grief with tuc1 is not that they chose to use robert moses over literally any other person (real or fictional) to be their season villain (though i'd be really curious to know what tuc1 would have looked like with a different villain), but that they chose to take a real jewish person, turn them into an antisemitic caricature, and then only barely add other portrayals of judaism to balance that out.
like, tuc isn't completely devoid of other jewish representation. as you mention, there's willy the golem -- and again, i really like willy, and i love that it's a portrayal of a golem that's faithful to jewish folklore (ie as a benevolent, guardian construct rather than a mindless destructive monster. i am not a fan of how 'golem' is so frequently misused as a generic enemy creature in other fantasy and ttrpg spaces, including other seasons of d20). but as i said earlier, i wish we see more of him in the season, because he's not around very much, and feels a little more like worldbuilding than a full character to me. also, he's not human. jews are people.
the only other human jewish character in tuc1 is...stephen sondheim. which, again, yeah, that's a real person who really was jewish. but i really wouldn't blame you if you had no idea of that when watching tuc1. maybe from the name you could guess he might be jewish, but i don't think people ought to make a habit of trying to 'clock' someone being jewish by having a 'jewish-sounding' surname. as he's portrayed in tuc1, you'd never know he's jewish, unless you happen to already be pretty knowledgeable about the man in real life. it's far more likely you'll know him as a theater legend than anything else (may his memory be a blessing).
now i'm not saying that brennan or the showrunners should have played up the jewishness of Real Person Stephen Sondheim to counterbalance the depiction of robert moses; that just feels weird to me, especially considering that sondheim was literally alive when tuc1 was filmed and released. it's a tricky thing to portray real people in fiction alongside made up characters, especially when they are contemporaries, and i don't think 'outright caricature' is the way to go about that. nor do i think that moses' jewishness should have been played up at all, because again i don't think that would have been particularly true to the person/character, and also Fucking Yikes. but, c'mon, if you hear the names 'moses' and 'sondheim' next to each other, which one do you associate more with judaism?
and as it stands, these are the only representations of judaism in tuc1. one admittedly nice but very minor nonhuman character; one human character you'd never be able to tell was jewish; and a third human character who, while never explicitly referenced as jewish, plays into some really hurtful antisemitic stereotyping. and it was a choice to not include anything else. maybe not a deliberate one, probably more likely one made out of simple ignorance than anything else, but a choice nonetheless. in a city with one of the largest and most visibly jewish populations in the country, and a culture that is inextricably influenced by that jewish population. a jewish population which has been and continues the target of rising hate crimes for years. i know that nyc means different things to different people, and everyone's nyc is their own -- but my nyc is jewish, and it sucks that that its jewishness is referenced directly in only one very minor way, which is greatly overshadowed by its, in my view, really insidious indirect references.
i don't know exactly how to go about addressing this. obviously, the show can't be changed by now. even if it could, i think the final product would be very significantly different from what it is now if the villain was something/someone else. i think including more references to jews in new york, more (human) jewish characters, hell, even mentioning hanukkah celebrations and menorahs in windows (it takes place in late december, after all; depending on the year it's not at all out of place for hanukkah to coincide with xmas!) would help. having literally any more positive jewish representation in tuc1 would, i think, help balance the bad stuff that's there. because, yeah, robert moses was real and he was terrible and he was jewish. but he's one jewish guy in a city with over a million jews, the vast majority of whom are just normal people. i don't want him to be the only vision of us that people get, in tuc1 alone or in any media. i'm not saying that jews can't or shouldn't be villains in fiction; but especially if you are a goyische creator, you should be really careful in how you're portraying us, and if there are other contrasting depictions in your work, too, in order to not (even accidentally) demonize jewish people as a whole.
#sasha answers#anon#unsleeping city#the unsleeping city#long post#sorry for not putting this under a read more but i think people ought to see this. or at least#if two people felt the need to ask me about it then at least they would want to see the full thing uncovered#also fwiw i do think that they tried to address this to some extent when they made tuc2#with more scenes with willy (and incorporating more golem folklore with the animating word in his mouth -- nice touch!)#the jewish immigrant family in the photo flashback encounter (even if the hanukkiah in the picture isn't exactly kosher lol)#and ESPECIALLY rabbi mike. i ADORE rabbi mike. i think he's a WONDERFUL addition#i do still wish he was a more important/prominent character. cause again he isn't in it all that much.#(and he's still like. the only new jewish human character in the campaign.)#but i recognize what he represents and i am happy about it#i do think brennan & the d20 crew tried to improve after tuc1. i do. i see their efforts and i applaud them for it#but still to my knowledge they haven't ever directly addressed the errors made in season 1#and it's extremely rare that i even see other fans mention it#and like. sorry but i am tired. i am. we deserve better. we deserve portrayals in media that show us as People#not just as evil monsters#anyway you're welcome to rb this but be cool in the notes esp if you're a goy#other jews are welcome to (respectfully) disagree with me if they want#also if you so much as mention the word israel on this post you're getting blocked end of
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lascapigliata · 1 year
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days have passed since this came up on my dash so it's long enough that i can say this without calling out any specific ppl for having reblogged it. but the poll going around recently about like "which yiddish word do you use most" annoyed me so much that i'm still thinking about it lol
first of all op's tags were "goy please rb and respond with how you think it's pronounced" which like, you shouldn't be positing yourself as ANY kind of authority on yiddish OR yinglish if you do not know how to properly use the word "goyim" hello??
& trying to say which do you use more... is not just figuratively but LITERALLY saying "which do you say more: complain, dirt, or trip." uh i use them all, all the time, based on the situation i am in lol. some of us use these words not like Quirky Foreign Expressions they're just. part of my language. op was jewish so this is prob veery uncharitable of me. but it was still so obviously a post made with gentiles in mind from the get go
learn the mameloshn if you want to, i'm SO all for that. learn yinglish if you want to, i'm all for that too. but both of them Are Languages. as usual this tiktok said it best
ALSO. this is MY pet peeve. but. "verklempt" is NOT a yiddish word. it is a word invented on SNL by a goyish comedian in the 90s. farklempt means overwhelmed specifically with grief and depression. it's fine to use verklempt obviously and it's a part of yinglish now too (and also no one cares about this but me) but like. know your history.
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cykes-dono · 2 years
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btw if you have the antisemitism tag blocked and ur not jewish ur, like, kind of weird
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antisisyphus · 4 years
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i need to date someone jewish so i can be their goyfriend
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lesbienneanarchiste · 6 years
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did y’all know that u can be rightfully horrified at the ice shit happening without making statements like “if you’re quiet about this, you would’ve been quiet when the nazis came for the jews!” 
like did u kno that
we (jewish and rromani people) are well fucking aware that y’all would’ve been quiet bc you’re still gdamn quiet! acting like the shoah was the only bad thing that ever happened to us and it’s all fine and dandy now is so fucking shitty esp considering that antisemitism/anti-rromani racism is on the rise and they ARE coming for us and you are still gdamn quiet! u can be upset without throwin us under the bus because we know! that you! do not care! about jewish and rromani people!! we know!! we see it constantly!! you are always quiet!!! i’ve now seen up to 3 posts with statement like that made by people who are not jewish and rromani and frankly??? i don’t fuckin care what y’all pretend, you don’t care about us so maybe keep our traumas out of your foul goyish mouth!!! 
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bisexualamy · 4 years
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talking about judaism transness & body image under cut for a crumb of performative privacy comments/thoughts/vibes welcomed
tw for misogyny antisemitism and body img talk <3
obviously pls dnt rb this
one day i am absolutely going to write the essay that’s been kicking around in my brain for years about how the things that’s alienated me from my body the most isn’t my transness but the fact that i’m now “praised” for the exact traits that up until i was 19 i was intensely critiqued for, a criticism that came not just from misogyny but specifically an ethnicized misogyny that came from being the only jewish person in a community of WASPs
i say ethnicized bc i am racially white but these traits come from me being ethnically sephardi jewish. i struggle to talk about this bc i don’t want to make it sound like i’m trying to claim an experience of racism i don’t have. fwiw, i’m trying hard to be specific here to avoid that. but the traits i’m talking about specific to like, how i was masculinized starting very young bc of the way i looked. i’ve always had thick dark body hair. i’ve had a mustache since i was six, thick dark hair on my arms and stomach, unibrow, etc. i had a lot of experiences where these traits were leveraged against me to simultaneously alienate me from my assigned gender and shame me into spending a lot of time and money and pain removing it. and i also say ethnicized bc growing up i did not want to do this and i was consistently told, mostly by other jewish women!!, that this is just something “we” have to do bc of the way we’re born it’s not as easy for us as it is for blond goys. (this is also wrapped up in just like, generally experiencing a lot of antisemitism in addition to this from my goyishe peers but that’s like, another post)
as much as i love having medically transitioned i am constantly frustrated by the same blond dudes i grew up with talking about being jealous i can grow a beard like do you not? remember? how you shamed me for this and how i grew to resent my body and the fact that like, no matter what i did to remove my body hair it would grow back quickly, just as dark and just as thick? idk it’s just a very alienating experience essentially getting benefit from something that was used for most of my life to make me hate my body for reasons beyond my control and i’m still not quite about to reconcile that. i feel like a lot of transmasc folks i know take a lot of pride in something that i sometimes still struggle w bc i’m still deprogramming all of that shame.
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lgbtunis-moved · 4 years
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Is it ok for a white goy to reboot your MENA post? I just want to make sure since MENA goyim were specified
If you're a white goy don't rb that plz
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