#i will make this about jaime and brienne

[pandolfo-malatesta]

#Jaime x Brienne #Braime #A Storm of Swords #so that chapter 44 huh #I wish I could have read this without knowing anything about it in advance #as it is it makes me somewhat insane #so I can only imagine how feral it would make me otherwise #to be struck between the eyes by the depth of Jaime's regard for Brienne that he barely admits to himself #I LEFT SOMETHING AT HARRENHAL #HER NAME'S BRIENNE #SO HE DID #I DREAMED OF YOU #S O H E D I D

[ilynpilled]

the world without jc povs:

#this is interesting to think about bc jaime at first would have been a king obv #but also when it comes to asos it’s interesting to imagine if the whole thing happens from brienne’s pov #i think it would be functional but ofc the thing that makes jaime so compelling is actually seeing how he views the world #losing that would not be worth it for anything #like we have access immediately to the ugliest most vile thoughts abd rationalizations that have to be slowly broken down #i feel like the same arc from brienne’s pov would be less original too #also the jb asos arc is more about character than plot thats fs

[venusintheblindspots-blog]

I think once people start accepting that one of the key ideas being explored with Brienne’s character is romance, I’ll finally be at peace with this fandom.

#I’ve cried about her so much #no other character in ASOIAF makes me feel what Brienne does #Jaime and Brienne are the only enemies to lovers I tolerate #jaime x brienne #brienne of tarth #lady brienne #ser brienne #asoiaf #a song of ice and fire #also #everything about her and Jaime is written romantically #“their swords clashed? #no GRRM said their swords kissed #like he uses that language for a reason y’all #this is not a bromance

[braime-brainrot]

okay BUT brienne and jaime are the epitome of "she's everything. he's just ken."

#i'm sure someone pointed that out already #my brain these days: hmm how can i make the barbie movie about game of thrones #game of thrones #asoiaf #jaime lannister #brienne of tarth #braime #jaime x brienne #barbie #barbie movie

[swordmaid]

that jb post adwd quiet isle au plot but this time jaime gives her his cloak

#jaime x brienne #brienne of tarth #asoiaf #mine. #actually for this scenario i was thinking that bri woke up in the quiet isle w the cloak covering her like a blanket and jaime is gone #something about how a stained cloak is worth shit but at least it can keep u warm................. #also thinking about that giving and taking dynamic re:brienne and jaime gives her the cloak ... similar to how jaime gives her the sword as #opposed to just taking it (like how she take renly's sword and rainbow cape (since it was not meant to be hears originally)) #this is so quick u can tell but i just needed to have this materialized!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! its making me go 🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴 #ANOTHER ALSO. its like ambiguous knighting (receiving a knight's cloak) since she defended the innocents AND. ambiguous marriage bc she #is receiving his cloak. and with jaime being gone its like. so did they get married/was she knighted or WHAT.... who knows..... #and she is kissing it 😣😣😣😣😣 ooooouggh im going wild. im in ur walls. im scuttling

[glorybeat]

i don’t know if this has been debated before(probably has), but can we talk about how the reasons as to why some people wanted brienne with tormund were all pretty much deeply misogynistic

#here i go again #i hate d&d for making that shit a thing #‘oh but he loved her he would have married her’ #ok but did she want that? NO SHE DID NOT! #why should she settle for him? just ‘cause he wanted to f@ck her?? bffr #the way these people talk about it like she sould have aimed lower than jaime therefore she should have gone for tormund pls #brienne of tarth #jaime lannister #anti briemund #braime #got

[crowcoven]

“That bandage… you’ve been wounded…”

“A bite.”

#thinking about them before during and post stoneheart makes me feral #jaime lannister #brienne of tarth #braime #fanart #asoiaf #a dance with dragons #something about tending wounds is just so #i have so many thoughts about this #like clawing at the walls with thoughts about this #stoneheart

[melrosing]

Summerhall Solstice: JB and the Songs 😌 Galladon & the Maiden The Bear & the Maiden Fair Jaime & Brienne

#jaime x brienne #jaime lannister #brienne of tarth #asoiaf #valyrianscrolls #melrosing art #summerhallsolstice #me staring at the theme like 'how can i make this about jb' #yeah i've decided songs are a classic fantasy element

[fromtheseventhhell]

Jaime: calls Cersei “queen of whores” and Taena Merryweather, a “Myrish whore”.

The fandom: He’s such a feminine girlcoded and bride-coded marxist feminist.

At least, I understand why a lot of Jaime’s stans became Aemond’s and Criston’s stans.

Jamie slander in my inbox, finally!

I'll never stop whacking him because he's an asshole in canon and his stans insist he's this pure, pathetic, virtuous man who has just been forced into difficult situations. His "redemption arc" is just him not being as shitty as he could've been in a few situations. Every time I see "teenage girl-coded" I have to laugh because people have more sympathy for shitty male characters than the actual young female characters in the story. It makes sense that their fave is Jamie though, cause they turn right around and copy his misogyny. The amount of misinterpretation Cersei faces from Jamie stans is so ridiculous. Everything bad that ever happened to him is because Cersei is evil, whoring, and manipulative 🙄. The Jaime stan -> to Criston, Aegon, Aemond stan pipeline is very real. It's a specific way that male characters are treated that rolled over to the HOTD fandom. As long as their stans can find one sympathetic thing about their characters then that becomes an excuse for everything they've ever done. This fandom needs to normalize liking characters for how they're written instead of the woobification they can project onto them.

#ask #anon #anti jaime stans #is that a tag? well it is now #ugly nasty misogynistic man that people can only prop up by demonizing cersei #not to mention how people use Brienne as a prop for him and they make up a portion of their shippers #fanon!Jaime is also one of the most rewritten characters #I actually don't hate Jaime's character even though I find him very annoying #but I've had to mute him because of how ridiculous his stans are about him #hope Lady Stoneheart takes care of him in Winds ♥

[girlfairie]

just read a redditor's analysis of their first time reading AGOT- they love sansa, catelyn, dany, arya, "somehow" respect cersei but HATE jaime with their whole soul. baby that jaime POV coming to hit you like a bus 💗

#asoiaf #jaime lannister #loving every baby girl in the series is a future jaime fan green flag I don't make the rules #like literally just WAIT until you read the jaime and catelyn conversation. just wait until you meet brienne #they're right there too they're like ??? idk why but I almost feel bad for cersei??? #like they're capable of the nuance. jaime about to gain another defense squad team member

[nayeliq1]

June 9th, prompt: Cowboy Boots

"Come on out, Cas!"

"Do I really have to?"

Cas' grumbled reply was muffled by the closed bathroom door between them.

"What? You sayin' you don't like the gift I got you? Don't be a baby, lemme see!"

The door opened, and out came Cas, visibly grumpy Angel of the Lord, dressed in his usual shirt and pants and- Dean's mouth fucking watered at the sight - a pair of brand new cowboy boots.

"I look ridiculous", Cas stated, squinting down at his feet in affront.

"You look-" Dean swallowed. Hot as Hell.

He could see the moment Cas picked up on the way Dean was staring at him, the tiniest of smiles forming at the corner of the angel's mouth and softening the annoyed crease in his brow.

Cas gave him a fond eye-roll, sighing theatrically.

"The things I do for love", he muttered, making Dean grin.

"Alright, Jaime Lannister." Dean crossed the distance between them, arms circling around Cas' waist. "Whine all you like, but those stay on."

For @starcrosseddeancas Dreamy Drabbles

#I really wanted Cas to lean into that reference after that like #Are you the Brienne to my Jaime then? #Cas smirked lifting an eyebrow in that way that never failed to make Dean's breath hitch #You certainly got the sword for it #there was a mischievous sparkle in Cas' eyes as he looked indisguisedly in the direction of Dean's crotch #and Dean could barely hold back the bark of laughter bubbling up in his chest #and then yk some pun about the night ending with a swordfight lol #but that was just my own indulgence with my GoT otp lol #didn't have enough words left so you were spared #unless you actually read all the tags in that case sorry not sorry #destiel drabble #dreamydrabble #spn drabble #destiel ficlet #destiel #castiel #dean winchester #castiel in cowboy boots #destiel fluff #destiel being adorable dumb idiots #drabble challenge #drabble prompt: cowboy boots #my writing #game of thrones reference #dean makes pop culture references #jaime lannister reference #sorry if you don't get the ref but I couldn't help myself

[ilynpilled]

I feel like as the resident dishonor/honor guy enjoyer I have to speak on honor as a construct and how it seems to operate in asoiaf in my eyes. I will be stating the obvious here imo but: violence IS inherent to it. Be it directly or through the enablement of it. “Honor”, as a feudalistic moral construct, revolves around the reinforcement of a status quo. It is a moral construct that is embedded into a feudalistic structure, one that is inherently violent. It can be deeply flawed and destructive as a result of deeply rooted systemic issues. Being “honorable” is very complicated because, again, it does not exist based on a very sensible moral framework. It ends up contradicting itself because the way society is structured in Westeros.

Almost nothing embodies this more clearly than the KG. They are supposed to be the paragons of honor: an unsoiled white cloak.

Vows are social contracts this society is built on. This is why Jaime is very restricted in a lot of ways in his world by his label. Breaking one of the most important contracts (one that happens to be key in reinforcing a feudalistic structure: it places the king’s will above every single other moral or ethical code) makes it so he is not believed or trusted and he is unable to operate properly within their society in a lot of circumstances, as we witness in his chapters. It is honorable to protect the weak and the innocent, but it is honorable to protect your king in all circumstances and reinforce a status quo. To obey your family and play your societal role. To obey laws, even if they are unjust. To keep your word, to be honest. Loyalty to a tyrant has to be inherently more honorable (especially in certain positions) to maintain this status quo, even though it contradicts other oaths and we know it is inherently immoral. Balancing values is the most interesting aspect of characters dealing with ‘honor’ and morality. Feudalism is what makes the honor system collapse. Honor itself can be a more vague concept, “the quality of knowing and doing what is morally right”, but the way it is defined and how it operates within this society is so fucked. The KG appear in the weirwood dream (mirroring the imagery of The Others, conflating the honorable white cloak with snow and cold and death.) “You swore to keep your king safe” “and the children as well.” Yeah, the innocent children of kingslanding as well, that would have burned to ash. It is honorable to save your king, to protect the weak, to save the children, to save the innocents of KG, to obey your father. He tells this to them in the dream, he explains his reasoning for killing Aerys, but they do not budge. That is what Jaime fears the most, the complete collapse of everything that holds meaning to him, heroism becoming undefinable with these conflicting moral codes, which is likely another huge part of him keeping it a secret. It is something he feels powerless against. The way things are prioritized is wrong. Morality becomes skewed. In Jaime’s mind the enemy and primary source of doom is this nonsensical moral construct that contradicts itself represented by institutions that make no sense. It is what makes his symbolic fire go out. His moral code conflicts with this society’s code of ethics, which eventually leads him to cynically accept amorality. It is disillusionment that tears the idea of heroism and being “honorable” apart and leads to moral nihilism.

Another aspect of the honor code and its violence is the fact that it places more value to individuals based on class. It is dependent on class and a flawed social structure. This is despite the fact that vows of knighthood call for the protection of those that are too weak to protect themselves: the underprivileged. Jaime keeps having this epiphany of an inherent equality in death that seems to contradict the way society is structured. Aerys’ life is worth inherently more according to the honor code than Rhaella’s, than the lives of thousands of innocents, than Jaime’s. Yet, a lowborn hand, no one, seems to die harder than Aerys does (and nobody cares). A crown is worth nothing when crows feast on victors and vanquished alike, and the rightful heir himself. We are all equal in death, so the text is indicating that something is not right here.

When it comes to characters and their relationship with honor the important through-line is examining whether they are being “honorable” in the abstract sense, if they base their actions around empathy and a sense of actual justice, or if they are abiding by made up flawed constructs. Being viewed as honorable by this society does not make you a good person. In fact, in order for you to abide by the honor code you would likely have to turn into an amoral individual. For example, if you try to keep the cloak pure white you will metaphorically soil it. Like every one of Aerys’s kingsguard did. To keep their oath to the king, they broke vows to protect innocents and protect women. They should lose their honor by a lot of definitions, but that would mean the status quo collapses. Jaime’s knighting for this reason is very much like a boy being sacrificed at an altar. It is not just about drawing a parallel between young girls and boys being sentenced to bloody doom by violent constructs created for their gender.

“Blood is the seal of our devotion.” He bleeds on his plain white tunic. It was never “pure white”, it was always all tainted in blood. It is inherently violent. You can argue that is when “the boy died.”

Very rigid and hypocritical honor codes built for feudalism lack nuance and lead to amorality. I think George aims to address, interrogate, deconstruct, and then reconstruct honor, as with most other key concepts present in fantasy. Honor can be redefined. Examples like “No chance, and no choice”, among many others, are at the root of that reconstruction. Even then, the reconstruction does not conflate it with pacifism necessarily. For example, Chelsted did the ‘honorable’ thing, in the abstract moral sense, of quitting his job and not supporting a tyrant anymore, but that act achieved nothing in preventing the wildfire plot. Same with essentially everyone important at court abandoning the situation that is Aerys, turning away from a gaping wound and not addressing it before it was too late. Jaime had to soil the ‘white cloak’ and disrupt the status quo and lose his “honor” within those terms by murdering his king and his pyromancers as a kingsguard and actually save half a million lives. It was not glorious, nor was it anything like the songs, and the city is still doomed because there is no way to get that festering corruption out of there at this point, metaphorical of the greater problem with KG, but it was heroism, a choice with meaning, and a form of triumph, even if the consequences break Jaime down the line. He gets no answer to the question of what it means to be a knight and a man of honor if society’s version of it is so skewed. Then, Jaime and the readers get an answer in the form of Brienne: “I dreamed of you.”

#anyways what is honor? a horse #valyrianscrolls #theres also the aspect that honor is kind of individualized #its ‘your’ honor etc #like i think there r nuances in whether its treated as something internal or external #and at the end of asos hope is rekindled in jaime #but he desperately blinds himself trying to make the contradictions compromise #thats y he is suddenly reconstructing his thoughts about the kg and escapes int delusion #bc he has too many things that he still wants like cersei like his family and loved ones like the possibility of making ppl view him #as something redeemable someone good #but feast concludes that that is not possible #so all there is left is a pivot and brienne’s light #and a confrontation w so many things that have been repressed in order to keep him from essentially killing himself tbh #and nothing encapsulates that dilemma bw honor vs ‘honor’ than jaimes punitive justice against outlaws and his vow to cat #thats y its so significant that he abandons it to go w brienne alone to save sansa instead of pursuing the blackfish #and how he doesnt torch the village or even break in even if they hold info re the brotherhood #and then the irony is that that key choice will lead him to them #and what happens there is gonna be so interesting

[shipping-receiving]

Anyway where’s the Captain Phasma TV series

#gwen said she survived so she survived #I couldn’t care less about what the plot will be #she has not much character to assassinate so they could do whatever #as long as nik is also cast in it of course :) #make him part of her redemption arc or make them a villain partnership/couple!!! #that man is still out there doing interviews saying Jaime and Brienne should probably have gone off somewhere to start a family #and grinning like a fool when Gwen is even mentioned #edit: I’d like to note that this is clearly all wishful thinking #or delulu as the kpop stans say

[tiktaalic]

Can I speak my truth. I don’t think Brienne is even a little gay. I think she’s a kinsey zero who false positives on everyone’s radar. I think if you dropped brienne into new age 2024 she would get treated as a lesbian in her day to day life but whenever a woman liked her she’d be like. Ummmmmmm I’m really sorry but I don’t. Feel like that. I think she’d give lesbianism the good old college try bc of the direness of her male love life and come down firmly on the side of not attracted to women. I think she is quintessential pnw woman who you think is a slam dunk homerun lesbian based on everything about her who drops the word husband on you. I think she gets clocked on sight and mentions a partner named Jaime which makes people go. Okay. Partner i know that game. Jamie easily the name of a lesbian. Easily. And then she drops the he pronouns and you go. Well. Could still be a weird lesbian. And then Jaime is a business major in a frat with generational wealth. And HE is the kinsey five in the relationship.

#etxt

[swordmaid]

wait but I’m so obsessed with the concept of jaime just being so casual and romantic around brienne and she’s just like ?? 😳🧍‍♀️ 😮‍💨😖 every time she receives the affection

#I’m talking abt this current wip rn. will all make sense later!!! BUT ANYWAY. #I love the idea of jaime just casually showing her affection and it’s like things he won’t even think twice about #but to brienne it means a lot 😭😭😭 #where’s that text post I made on twit where it was like brienne: gets a crush on jaime also brienne: gets the worst tummy ache ever but #she’s being so brave about it. that’s the line of thought rn.!!!

[smallhatlogan]

I feel like I’m one of like five people who likes Brienne independently of her relationship to Jaime Lannister 

I s2g it’s like to some people are reading a different version of asoiaf where Brienne suddenly came into existence at the beginning of ASoS and in AFFC all of her chapters are just filled to the brim with her pining after Jaime instead of like, themes.

#asoiaf #i might have posted this before but it makes me soooooo sad #i see ppl tag shit with just brienne as the ship? stopppp #she knows so many other people she cares about so many other things #i'm not condemning the ship i just am so tired of people #relegating her to the role of 'jaime lannister's girlfriend' when like #she'd be a super interesting character even if she'd gone down another path without jaime?