#i wish people outside the fandom

[rosesradio]

shipping is not nearly as tricky or complex as people think. you like two characters together? you ship them. platonic, romantic, fucked-up, whatever. you don’t have to ship it because you think it’ll be canon and you don’t have to defend your reasoning.

you like two characters together? you ship it. that’s it

#oh no the proship within me is coming out #i wish i was in the early days of fandom it sounded so much better #anyways bylers i'm looking at you. not the analysists or people chilling in the tag but the ones who need to go outside #rose.txt

[hezuart]

Don't watch then? If you're going to be disappointed no matter what then don't watch

I think some people don't realize that Helluva and Hazbin are capable of good writing, that they are capable of amazing animation, good songs, and ideas. They HAVE that stuff, they've done it before, and continue to do it, not as often as before, but there are diamonds in the rough. It's the execution and vast changes in direction that fall flat, that are not good because the direction is lost, interactions become contradictory, the story doesn't seem as complex... and from a fandom standpoint, a lot of people within a fandom write fics, comics, or draw art based off things they wanted to see more of in the show. AUs to twist a direction, explore different arcs, expand a character, showcase a potential relationship- all of which the show did not. Whether a show is super good or terribly horrible, out of hype or spite, it is still an inspiration.

#im here for alastor and charlie man #i might get breadcrumbs but i miss my happy obsession with Hazbin Hotel #im dropping Helluva Boss after S2 finalizes #i heard some things i want to confirm myself are true- because those things in particular if unchanged will make me lose 100% interest #where as Hazbin Hotel may or may not be influenced by higher up the food chain kind of people #its got specific funding- specific episodes- its an officially released streaming service exclusive show #and good or bad it will expand on characters outside of a 30 min pilot #which will finally give the fandom new material to work with #and i wish to one day write a fic rewriting Helluva and maybe even Hazbin one day if i find the time and passion again #so if i can see what directions the show initially were going in #and steer them back onto those paths- then i gotta see the show to know #hazbin hotel critical

[voiceofsword]

every1 that voted rinne as worst husband is so wrong... its literally canon that he cares SO much and fakes his insane persona hes just awkward and embarassed when he gets noticed

i have so many things i can say about this but im really bad at words but theyre stewing around in my brain explodes

what were your thoughts?

i do agree with the ones that mention niki haha those are true rinne is absolutely smitten but the ones that say its like. because hes rinne amagi. and others thay were probably filtered out by the OP... people that either didnt read the main story or just dont want to look further lmao

(cracking my fingers) okay. this may or may not be long. i fear you have struck a bit of a nerve with this (NOT YOU but just as like. a general statement. i feel like u dont know what ur asking. but that is ok)

this whole thing might seem really aggressive at times bc this situation did get me a little heated... plz keep that in mind going in! AGAIN IM NOT ANGRY AT YOU ANON ILY AND THANK YOU FOR ASKING you just happened to ask abt smth i feel very sourly about – not the poll itself but the answers to it – but i tried to be as. tactful as i possibly can while talking abt this

overall im very disappointed in a lot of the answers given for the voting so ive stayed off twitter almost all day today and yesterday. i fear like with stuff like this a very silent population of eng side shines through, the one that specifically Doesnt actually engage with the story and goes off fanon interpretation. look, im not saying its necessarily a bad thing. but when it comes to stuff like this, where people grossly mischaracterize a grand majority of charas or narrow them down to be the butt of a joke, or use it as an excuse to be plain racist/ableist, i feel like people really need to reassess where all of this is coming from. like. not rinne, but KANAME couldnt even be included because the answers used for his votes were, in their majority, apparently ableist, and op (definitely in the right, i think this was the right choice to make) chose not to post at all because they feared the qrts would be just as bad. because for some reason people seem to think that because they're fictional characters that being ableist is somehow ok, that saying they would "pull the plug" on charas like him and eichi is fine because theyre not real people – as if there werent disabled or chronically ill people in this fandom, in every fandom, or hell, around you?

and lets not mention tatsumi and people blatantly misinterpreting his christianity as something he would force upon others – first of all, western christianity does not apply to tatsumi. at all. i understand that people might find it easy to just associate him with that and make "haha, he would make me convert" or "haha he would be a homophobe" quips, and obviously its not necessary to have extensive knowledge on kirishitan history in japan and how they are, to this day, a minority that was persecuted for a lot of japan's modern history. LIKE, EVEN FROM HIS DIALOGUE IN ANY STORY.. when has he given off that impression? cite your sources, he's literally one of the most inclusive and accepting charas in the whole cast! not a prejudiced white christian middle aged mom...

i think that if you absolutely must reduce a character to tasteless jokes, stereotypes that arent even funny to begin with, and you refuse to even read the source content at all to correct yourself, you really need to think about how you engage with any media, not just enstars. if you want to look at the pretty characters just say that! but dont be like this, and don’t speak on things you don’t fully understand as if you did just to make a point or be funny! 

OKAY RINNE SORRY LOL i hate it. i hated all of it and judging by the ratio many people seemed to dislike it as well (god bless!). if you havent seen it i wont link it bc tbf i dont feel like looking at it again (peace and love) but the answers summed up are like "oh he would steal my money" "hes selfish and would take stuff from me and not gaf about my wellbeing" "hes married to niki already" the last one being the only one i agree with. and it makes me think about a lot of issues with how a good portion of the fandom sees rinne. ive seen a lot of people read rinne in bad faith, regardless of whether theyve read main story, hot limit or any story rinne is in. and i dont get it, genuinely. YES he can be upsetting! he can be an asshole, he can be rude, he DOES steal money from niki! but these people neglect to see or mention that he gives it back and then some. they fail to talk about how he spends a lot of his time trying to make niki see his self worth!! since hiiro was BORN he's been trying to get him to understand that he's deserving of love!! that YES he can be a dick but ultimately treats crazy:b and his friends with love and wants what's best for them! these are the same ppl that think he's abusive or something idk i can only assume. like yeah rinne has a carefully crafted persona where hes a complete dickhead and ig some players cant really bother to see past that act

unfortunately rinne himself is built on a few harmful stereotypes of ainu culture irt the drinking, being portrayed or viewed as more 'uncouth' by other characters, etc which is why the initial more explicit ties to ainu culture were removed altogether from his and hiiros design and background. it is understandable, which is for example why it's not really my place to say whether he can be interpreted as ainu or not, and even so, i try not to rely on those aspects of him because it still veers into sensitive territory. and its an unfortunate part of his character, but undeniably, rinne amagi DOES drink, (he's one of the only characters in main cast of drinking age anyway) does partake in harmful behaviors, but fsr suddenly that means hes nothing but a drunkard, to a lot of people. when reading rinne you really have to take these things and ofc, consider that theyre relevant to his character, but it's not all there is...? in the slightest..? there used to be a tweet thread explaining this link further but it's either been taken down or the account has been locked. either way, just a bit of googling goes a long way. i'd rather not go into too much detail here because i don't feel informed enough beyond pointing these issues out, and i personally feel like it's not really my place. if anybody wants to add onto this post to cite more specific sources please feel free

he's such a fun loving, cunning, caring guy who helps people get jobs (dance of the white tiger), who volunteers to play with kids at a daycare (asobi), and wishes so badly to become an idol and grant everyone the same opportunities if theyd like to be, as well (main story, sudden death SUDDEN DEATH IS MY FAV STORY AFTER HL BUT THE TL IS DOWN....SORRY. but i really really think it's one of the most important ones when it comes to rinne's character and motivations. also if u can read it in app it's even better bc it's voiced and theres a line where he's like "oh this guy's [niki] is engaged to me" when talking to kohaku's sister AND HE SOUNDS FULLY SERIOUS TOO....)

don't get me started on people who dumb him down as if he wasn't one of the most clever characters in the game. and unknowingly, people that continue to make rinne's character out to simply be a gambling flirty drunkard who doesn't know how to control himself, as if there weren't other facets of him – they lean into stereotypes, bordering on racism, even if its not malicious or theyre not aware. and it makes me so sad. a lot of the time these interpretations are spread around and then liking characters like him becomes some sort of moral debate, esp in current fandom (which is one of the reasons i think this stereotyping? happens? b/c ive found that fandom sometimes has the tendency of grabbing characters and mischaracterizing them so BADLY that liking them makes you a bad person..? not necessarily villains either! i promise it's okay to just dislike characters without making stuff up!)

that aside also suggesting he'd be an awful, neglectful spouse is simply incorrect. i very firmly believe that if rinne is devoted, he will drop every vice, every pretense, to make the other person happy. he's Like That in the story and towards niki because they keep tiptoeing around the subject but the second he gets an inner monologue, or is truly being genuine, you can tell he would do anything for him, if niki would just let him. to say that rinne isn't capable of being a good partner because he'll treat you badly or not care about you just proves to me that you're not reading any scene he is actually in. if rinne loves you, romantic or not, he will go big or go home. read hot limit btw

im not about to pull the story caps out no wait yes i am lol rinniki4ever ✌️

these arent in order bc i had to scroll up like 2k pictures because i take caps of this game every time i blink. i was considering adding hiiro caps, to show his dedication to him as well, but given that this is for like a marriage poll id rather not. either way he cares about his family and loved ones a lot. read chapter 155 if you want to know the exact scene i was thinking about/referring to while typing this

um ok (breathes out) im fine now. theres things i didnt address because it's 1 am and i want to go to sleep. congrats kuro on getting #1 most marriageable tho u deserve it KURO NUMERO 1 CAMPEAO DO MUNDO 💯💯💯🔥

#im not tagging this with anything else #im sorry if i sound snobby or just. idk. mean at all. it isnt even a matter of media literacy anymore its more like #sometimes interpreting stuff on such a surface level and having to make jokes out of everything is not the best way to go #especially when the jokes are harmful/offensive. you dont really see this behavior outside of eng fandom #this isnt meant to be scolding i just wish people understood!! #but like if people say something is offensive rather than just doubling down...listen? please #im not an authority on enstars obviously i havent caught up on anything non alkakurei since like 2018. these are just my thoughts #if you read all of it i appreciate you :) #its not that serious. unless youre being purposely ableist and or racist which in that case it is that serious #mimthinks

[parasiteking]

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#i wish selfcest was like. more normalized in fandoms outside of ut mv and like. fucking onceler. #I UFKCING LOVE * BUT I CANNOT LET PEOPLE THINK I SHIP IT IN A WEIRD WAY. #sorry. im a pussy and have to have control over how people see me.

[kimchunsgha]

i'll never forgive mnh making chungha wanting to give up on being an idol to the point she just wanted to go study abroad and get away from the industry and i can't imagine how bad they made her feel to the point that it was something she considered

#the fact that she didn't believe people were waiting for her #or that people were excited to see her teasers for the new company coming out #is so sad #i wish that company nothing but hell 😭 #they are so evil it's beyond insane to me #that even we knew that even before the shit they decided to pull today #but if there's anything it made me realize is that #they tried to make her feel small and like #that she wasn't successful enough to keep going with her career #when so many people love her even outside of her fandom #and a fresh start is good but it's so upsetting to me #that even after she ended the contract #they are still taking things away from her #tris.txt

[starsinseafoam]

⛓️⛓️⛓️

Something I find fascinating is that no matter where Kurapika goes, he can't help but make connections even if he's not trying to. First it was Gon, Killua, and Leorio. Then it was Melody and Basho, and now we have Oito, Woble, Bill, and Shimano.

I feel like that is something worth talking about and why I feel like Kurapika's not as down a dark path as a lot of people seem to think. It'd be way easier for him to succeed if he was truly so ruthless and uncaring but he has his own detours that steer him away from his goal.

First it was moving to help his friends when they got captured for his sake (without a second though btw) and now it seems like he will do the same to protect Oito and Woble. There also feels like there's another set up with all those eyes and a head of a kurta (if it really is Pairo then oof..) that might make him test those limits as well and the fact that the spiders are aboard the ship too.

(He is just so caring and it leads to things he doesn't want but needs at the same time ugh it's so good)

bonus semi related thoughts under the cut

I feel like Togashi has gotta avoid doing the same thing over again with Kurapika that he did with Gon in terms of seeing the big bad kill someone who meant a lot to him in his childhood and goes berserk. As cool as it'd be to see Kurapika go totally crazy like Gon did, it'd just be a repeat of past events so...

This gets me thinking that the sacrifice angle will really come into play and that Kurapika will move to save Oito and Woble over getting the eyes or something of the sort... I think the head being there is what will make the choice so much harder because it's no longer just disembodies eyes but they will belong to someone that he knew (Pairo or not, the village was fairly small I'm sure he knew almost everyone there) so it will really feel like losing someone again.

I adore how quickly Kurapika dropped the revenge to save Gon and Killua to diffuse the situation but I want him to really have a dilemma this time, especially since he'll be losing some of the eyes not just trying to get revenge on the cause.

#getting back into hxh and in my kurapika feels esp #since he's my ultimate favorite character even outside hxh #I think people in this fandom are so quick to jump on “oh this character is now a villain” that they just dismiss a lot of complexities #like idk I wish I could transmit my kurapika thoughts to everyone to make them see cause he's such a nuanced and caring character #he is fantastic and so many dismiss him cause they think he's jsut about revenge or being rude to his friends #UGH #anyway yeah... I adore him and I adore his caring heart and sense of justice #kurapika #hxh #hunter x hunter

[claremikas]

"we need more evil women in media!!!" yall can barely handle traumatized child soldiers who sometimes do slightly questionable things please sit down

#annie leonhart #aot annie #mikasa ackerman #aot mikasa #gabi braun #aot gabi #attack on titan #the way none of them are evil in the slightest yet get demonized both inside and outside of the fandom #like the most questionable one is annie #and she gets decimated for killing enemy soldiers for the sake of her mission at 16 #mind you she was adopted by her dad just to be a weapon and his one way ticket to a better life #her life was never valued by those around her including her mother who abandoned her as a baby #so she's obviously going to have some issues with caring for the lives of others #tbh i WISH she was as evil as people describe her #and mikasa gets dragged for being mean to an obsessed fascist fangirl who stole her shit #and for killing fascists #don't even get me started on gabi #aot

[archduke-enver-gortash]

posting on here is like my sisyphean boulder i'm constantly rolling tbh

#god i am trying so hard to just have fun and be myself #but when i do that i'm immediately a strange outsider creep #and since i can't really mask my version of masking is just not talking and then obviously you don’t find any joy in fandom spaces either #i will always be a shitty unlikable freak no matter how much i pretend otherwise. it was obvious from the start that getting involved in #fandom spaces was a fucking mistake. it's always a mistake because you're some laughing stock at best and a horrifying freak at worst #i don't blame people for not liking me i've realised what an awful person i am long ago #but it's always so hard witnessing something like fun social groups from the sidelines knowing you'll never be a part of it #this is why my mental state has been deteriorating so severely in the last few months. that Realisation once again nothing fucking changed #i know it's stupid to get so upset over fandom but it's only a pattern for me #i stopped trying to be friends with people when i was a teenager because it hasn't worked a single time #this attempt at integrating myself into the wotr and bg3 fandom by sharing my shit was just one mistake #gortash/zeke is so different from anybody else’s work and i wish i could find joy in something that it isn’t fucking deranged but i can’t #like yes it’s just fandom bullshit! gortash/zeke is a fucking oc x canon ship! why am i getting so upset over it! #i love writing them. i’ve never been this happy writing anything. and it’s entirely indicative of a common pattern in my life #when i earnestly share parts of myself/things i’m passionate about people get creeped out. and honestly? rightfully so #i would leave the discord servers i’m in because it’s fucking crushing me dude. this is so petty but i’m so jealous of what you people have #but in one i am server owner and i don’t want to just dump that responsibility onto someone else and then dip #and in the other two i’m not sure anyone would even notice that i’m gone but i still worry about being rude #though i’m not entirely sure i didn’t get invited to one of those just so people could laugh at me. idk probably just being paranoid but i #it’s been gnawing at me #ok no if i’m being this vulnerable on tunglr.com i can also say that part of me staying is also still having the hope that i could fit in #one day. logically i know it won’t happen but it’s nice to have hope sometimes #watching you all from through the window having fun like a creep #so yeah. i’ve always felt like this but it’s been rapidly getting worse with my failed attempt at the bg3 fandom #idk just been crying non-stop for the last few hours. went through an entire pack of tissues in an hour it’s very disgusting #they’re all lying around me as i’m typing this like a pillowfort of snot lmao #so yeah. idk. if someone could come over and lobotomise me that’d be nice. orin where are you when we need you most #i never had any friends irl so i foolishly gave this a shot. i’m sorry #also doesn’t help that i can see someone dropping me for people that are easier to be around in irl rn #it just hurts because it’s always like that. someone you are around when you have no other option at best. not even that sometimes

[takethatandparty]

Enjoy your daily "Thatters embarrassing themselves on TikTok or another platforms"

You're*;

They've been releasing music as a trio since 2014, so yes, they are Take That;

It's been years since Robbie's and Jason's departure. Get over it;

Shut the fuck up.

#that's why i can't interact with the fandom outside tumblr #i have no patience at all #people have to respect robbie's and jason's wishes #and shut the fuck up #and enjoy the fucking music #or don't #but just shut the fuck up #take that #tt #mark owen #gary barlow #howard donald

[mirchoff]

was very annoying to friends about this episode and now i feel really bad because i can’t just give people space and let them breathe, i always have to shove stuff down their throat :/

i’m just lame and don’t have great priorities when it comes to getting happiness

#i don’t want to insert myself into the friends on twitter so i rant to people outside of the fandom #but still that doesn’t justify me being so fucking annoying sometimes #and then sometimes not giving the same energy back like! bitch you started it! #trying not to let this ruin my night because seeing callie (and jamie!!!) made my whole week #but i wish i could love in moderation #i just love my comfort character too much :( #me tag

[deathsbestgirl]

is there a fandom word that's about shipping people as friends, no romantic/sexual context.

#and no. it can't be ship #txf fandom has to understand #i'm thinking about penny northern & cassandra spender #and how scully deserved more time with them #these women are so special to her #and outside of maggie & missy & reyes #like. who does she have 😭 #also now i'm thinking about how scully tried to keep it professional #with doggett & reyes #but their integrity & compassion & *love* made that impossible #like genuinely wish they were brought in to expand the x files #because that would have been good #i wish that were an option #what's the fic that did that #m&s get together and skinner makes scully the head of her own department #so they can still work together & the x files starts to grow #*imagine mulder & scully trying to find people they could trust* #scully trying to veto every woman unless they work with *her* #okay i'm getting annoying i need sleep

[ride-a-dromedary]

People really don't like it when elves act like...elves, huh?

#it's always like we like elves in theory but the MINUTE they start doing anything outside of my comfy zone #suddenly that's a no no #it's so weird #elves are not humans liteTM and i wish fandoms and fantasy would stop treating them as such #like there is so much room to make them more alien and different but when they do i note people like to...brush over it #commit or just use human characters #jibber jabber blabber bluff #i'm talking about all elves but i see so much #in dnd circles especially recently and it's like...why? #and it sucks because i love that shannara elves have so much more physical diversity but brooks makes them so human #with little to no reference to their past and it's weird #i get that they evolved due to tragedy but come ON

[e77y]

Seriously need to make more friends or go outside more (both things are easier said than done) bc I am a little bit tired of relying on content creation for attention and connection :(

#idk I think I just miss how accessible attention from friends was in high school and even last year in college #but now I’m an online student and I live in the middle of nowhere so it’s a lot harder to hang out with people irl #and idk I just finished all of my schoolwork for the day and thought ‘I’m really bored and want to talk to somebody etc’ #and my first thought was ‘I should work on a new fic so people will comment on it’ 😭 #which! I do love comments! but also I need to talk to people outside of AO3 comments yk? lmao 😭 #I sort of miss the year-ish long era of COVID lockdown bc I was constantly on calls with like ten different friend groups #maybe it’s my self isolation or maybe adulthood is just like this? idk #I’m moving in with friends next semester so I think that will be good for me #I just wanna make online friends man :( but idk how to DO that except by making fandom content #and hoping somebody likes it enough to slowly incorporate me into their life LMAO #I wish calls/voice memos were the norm in online spaces I’m so much better at those #anyway this is very pathetic to post but whatever. I’m trying to get used to being vulnerable on this blog #not that I owe it to people online to be vulnerable. if anything I should NOT be vulnerable on the internet #it’s just that. I am not very vulnerable period. so it’s better for me to air it out into the online void than to bottle it up forever #ellyposting #vent #ish? just to be safe

[fitzrove]

jfkfkdkddk i just realised it's gonna take me a couple months to release my video essay so maybe i'll just blurt out some of my tanz der vampire hot takes now

- ALFRED IS THE MAIN CHARACTER come on you guys,,, you can like and be interested in other characters but it's a problem when the show itself doesn't remember how it was written. The very structure of the show (music, dialogue, plot, scenes) rebels against trying to change this and productions that push him aside just end up jumbled and messy. It's literally a main reason Kunze hated Broadway Tanz

- tied to this, so many people view carpe noctem as this "haha weird random nightmare dance number, guess it was added to pad the runtime" like no... that is literally a way for the show to metaphorically recap and further develop the central themes of the show to the audience at the beginning of act 2... open your eyes...

- I'll take Kunze's "tdv is a musical symbolizing the fall of the berlin wall" (true take of his) over "a longterm relationship with krolock is the ultimate way for sarah to liberate herself" any day. 😭

#like. #rant about the sarah and krolock thing ahead #when i write todolf fanfiction it's never about how rudolf's relationship with tod is a way for him to be liberated or smth #in fact it's always vaguely horrifying #i mean the closest thing to liberation is the todesengel au where he Steps Out Of Time but with that i tried to strongly imply that its #actually really awful because he gives away agency & moral & opinion and becomes inhuman because of that #but anyway. krolock and sarah #it just doesnt read as liberating to me to have her go from the house of one man to another... she always said FREEDOM IS OUTSIDE/out there #not 'freedom is in krolock's castle specifically' #means to an end!!!!! #actually thats also how i feel about tod and elisabeth fjkfkf means to an end #i _like_ that the 'romance' in the stories stands for much larger metaphorical themes #shipping is fine and fun but romance in the traditional sense doesnt fit the actual productions #because it makes them just like every other kitschy musical in a way they were originally not #to be clear i'm not meaning to be a hater jgldkdj all fandom is fine and ppl like those ships for various reasons #but the original show is so complex and those complexities are personally important to me #i wish it had stayed that way :'0 maybe then more people would write alfred/sarah and alfred/krolock kfkdösjfkd

[coreene]

I was looking through my old posts and found my oldest one. It is about a year and a month ago! I had no idea it has been only a year since I started this blog.

Happy belated anniversary to me I guess! xD

And thank you everyone who started following me in the meantime and managed to stuck around!

#blog update #i guess #I never thought this would turn into a fandom blog #i had just created it to interact with stuff outside of sims #i do wish sometimes that it was on a clean account so I wouldnt appear on people's notes as a simblr xD #can't turn back now though can i?

[thelittlemermage]

Sometimes it infuriates me sooo much that, while the CM of Animaniac's twitter account and everyone who worked on it can post the wildest things like shipping content, writing "love" in capital letter and talking about French kissing (or worse innuendos) ... But like, only because it's backstage, while the actual show is very careful and doesn't allow a big part of that. It makes me think about how much they want to be allowed to do that...

Yea, I mean plenty of people on staff obviously ship the mice. And I think the A! account sees that a huge chunk of people who interact with them are brinky shippers so they lean into it as much as they're allowed. But it was never in the cards for them to go all the way with it. Because they're existing IPs they weren't allowed to stray too far from their original concept...which I am well aware how one can still argue that being queer coded was always a part of their original concept (or at least how they ended up once their characters were established), but they were never explicitly 100% a couple. So they're doomed to be eternally ambiguous v.v" unless something changes by their next appearance.

#patb ask #even tho I ship them from the bottom of my heart I wonder how that would go #because they aren't a particularly healthy couple #which I don't mind. I think they're allowed to have problems #but I wonder how people outside our fandom would think about it #I still wish it could happen someday tho