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#i'm honestly surprised by the racism in the fandom i'm just
justzawe · 4 months
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I just came back from a VERY long Tumblr break. I was here during the peak of "hiddlestoner" mania- when Tumblr revolved around Marvel, Supernatural, Sherlock, and Dr. Who. I'm honestly not shocked at the level of delusion, racism, and sheer insanity some of these fans have exhibited when it comes to Tom and Zawe. I wish I could be surprised, but when I step back and look at the rise of Trumpism and idiots who are QAnon believers, it's not surprising that fans would twist themselves into knots to claim the baby isn't his and Zawe is holding him captive (or whatever psychotic shit they can come up with). They can be packed into the same looney bin as the QAnon people who believe we're getting injected with micro-chips and JFK Jr. is still alive to come back and assist Trump in a coup. Aside from the clear signs of neglected mental health, these people attempt to claim some sort of a delusional ownership over Tom. He will never go back to "pre-2016 Tom" you know why? Cause the "fandom" scared the fuck out of him and he realized he needed to protect himself and those he loved from the same crazies who claim to know what's happening in his private life but don't know the man from a can of paint. He's fiercely protecting his family from them because he recognizes they don't respect him or respect boundaries. I watched and listened as fan encounters grew increasingly aggressive and inappropriate. I could only imagine the fear/anxiety/discomfort he must have dealt with during some of the moments described in stories about these fan encounters. The absolutely unhinged behavior exhibited by the same lot of people who are attacking Zawe are the reason he will never return to pre-2016 Tom and I, for one, believe that's a good thing. I hope they continue to protect their privacy and peace as a family and I hope the conspiracy theory haters die mad about it.
This is so on point, anon.
You can really see how protective he is over Zawe when they’re in fan spaces. I think part of that is he wants to make sure she doesn’t get overwhelmed by the crowd since she’s mentioned experiencing anxiety in that setting before, but I definitely think it’s also because he knows how aggressive and unhinged his fans can be.
I’m thinking that after his fans went insane when he dated Taylor, he knew that if he was going to ever have something real and long lasting with someone, he was going to have to change the way he was with his fandom and the media. He’s still great with them, but you can see the difference. Good for him tbh. He has to protect his family.
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northern-passage · 1 year
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honestly same...I also only stick to reading the same ifs I've been reading since like 2 years ago + as a disabled lgbt person this community has gotten to toxic to interact wth tbh
hmmm putting this under a read more but here's some ramblings about my personal experience as well as some advice if anyone wants it
before i started writing tnp, when i was just a reader, it was very easy to curate my space and avoid a lot of the nastier people (especially back when the forums were the main space for people to talk about IF. i didn't go on the forums at all) and i was very much outside of the fandom and followed only like one artist whose recommendations i started off with before finding more stuff on my own.
once i became an author though it is impossible to avoid certain groups of people and it's really hard to hold on to that comfortable space. over the last like 3 years now my audience has definitely changed and dwindled a lot due to my.... Big personality but before that i had to endure a lot of harassment, people stalking me, people harassing my friends just for being my friend, almost constant transphobia and racism, and even now i still have people that seem to just camp in my inbox waiting for any opportunity to try and hurt me/get a reaction out of me.
i've been pretty open about all of this stuff happening too which most people also don't like, though that seems to be pretty standard across any fandom when you try to talk about how bad they are. i'm never really surprised when other authors delete without any warning or they just slowly stop posting and never come back. it's definitely something i've wanted to do more than once and still think about sometimes. even now after finally seeming to find my "niche" and a more understanding audience, it's really hard and i struggle with finding inspiration and motivation because of how people have treated me.
unfortunately i think it's always been this way, it's the nature of sharing work online and especially with IF feeling so "collaborative" people really feel entitled to it. and i also see readers facing this same kind of harassment, too, so it's definitely not just an author problem.
my advice is to just block and ignore people as best you can and just stay in your own little bubble with your friends or at least people that you trust. if you're an author going through any of the things i mentioned then just know there are a lot of other authors that have had to go through it, too, and that you should also just block and ignore to the best of your ability. just because you're an author doesn't mean you have to tolerate it. i used to respond to a lot of messages which is why i feel that a lot of my harassment lasted for so long, because they thought it was "funny" to upset me, but the more you respond and give them attention the more they'll keep doing it. so just block anons and move on (i know i make it sound so simple. trust me i used to be really bad about it, now i try to take at least a day or two before responding and usually by that time i realize how stupid it is and i just delete it without any fanfare)
at the end of the day though it's your decision, and your well-being comes first before anything else. i say this to both authors and readers, there's no reason to force yourself to stay in a place that makes you uncomfortable or is triggering. sometimes it's better to just let go and move on, though i know that's easier said than done. i'm a prime example as someone who still logs into tumblr daily despite trying really hard not to do that.
and i'm not saying to give up on your work, but rather that writing privately is always an option, and it's what i've been doing now with my other projects ever since i took siren's call down. i know the desire for outside validation can be overwhelming but i think it's important to remember that you should be writing this for yourself first and that there's no harm in keeping your work private until you're ready. tumblr is fun but there's also a lot of problems that can be difficult to deal with while you're also trying to keep motivation and creativity up to write your story, and it can be really discouraging.
like i said, your first priority should be yourself, and if you have to step back away from tumblr/fandom then you should & you shouldn't feel guilty about it.
all of that to say that there are nice people out there, too, i've made really good friends here and i really value their friendship and their understanding, especially when i was going through the worst of it. and there are a lot of readers who have been very kind to me and that have sent me very nice messages and drawn lovely art over the years and i always try to focus on that over everything else.
it can be really easy to get overwhelmed by all the negativity and hostility which is why it's so important to find your people and be supportive of each other.
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qqueenofhades · 10 months
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hilary, I really love talking about history with my friends but sometimes I talk about a historical person that I'm interested in and my friends act like just because I know things about a famous historical person I support everything they did. even when I know they know I don't support slavery, racism, sexism, etc. how do I keep from losing my cool when they do this?
Look, I have no idea where the "if you talk about anything complex/consume this material/think about it in any way, YOU TOO MUST SUPPORT IT AND BE PROBLEMATIC AND BAD!!!" mindset came from, but I honestly and deeply wish it a very killed with fire. It's the same anti mindset where if you read Morally Impure Fan Fiction, you are Morally Impure, but apparently now extends to... learning about the literal entirety of human experience? Why does this not surprise me, while also making me want to put my head through a plate glass door?
Once again, I don't know what people think historians DO, but I can assure y'all, it's not sitting around talking about how Totally Great [fill in the historical person, place, or thing] absolutely was, and how there were no problems with it ever and everyone should just be like, totally down with it, man. (Tubular.) In fact, the practice of academic history is often directly focused, especially nowadays, on identifying these problems and previous interpretations, putting them into context, and discussing how they happened in the first place. Considering that we're suffering from such a profound crisis of historical ignorance, both deliberate and inadvertent, and have seen how that manifests in current events (which are just the history happening right now), I am... boggled that "we shouldn't talk about anything because it was Morally Problematic!!!" is, indeed, getting serious play. Once again, it's the anti-intellectualism that is just as rampant on the left as it is on the right, while dressing itself up in different language and pretending to support different goals. But either way, any critical philosophy based on "we can never talk about things that went wrong/people who did Wrong Things in the past" is absolutely dead on arrival as any use to anyone. Ever.
Obviously, there are complexities in how to approach this material, and I personally don't think that historical figures, especially complex ones, should be "fandomized" or treated just as Cute OTP Blorbos or sanded down to fit a sanitized fictional box (unless they are explicitly fictionalized/being used in a fictional context, and even then, yeah, it's good to keep the background in mind). It's not that this is wrong -- after all, historians get into this line of work because they have Big Thoughts and Many Feelings about historical people/places/things and want to work on those in a variety of contexts -- but it's a little uncomfortable, at least for me. That said, it's still not inherently wrong, in any way, to be interested in/want to talk about people from the past. They're human, for god sakes! You are also human! They are your ancestors! Of course you, a primate with higher reasoning and anxiety, are curious about them! You want to know their stories and consider their circumstances and ponder why they did things, including bad things! If you can't do that, shun other people from doing it, and therefore you are completely cut off from your species' entire backstory and have no frame of reference for anything at all, you're going to end up an idiot. Guaranteed.
Anyway: yet again, people talking about history (or fiction, or anything at all) in a complex way that takes into account the fact that uh, people have never been perfect in their entire existence does not mean that the person is Bad or Supports All The Evils of Human History or whatever. I'm not sure what this attempted-gotcha "don't you know they were a bad person!!!" is going to accomplish, other than giving someone the same kind of fleeting self-righteousness high that comes from Being More Correct On The Internet (or wherever), but like... if you like studying history, and they know you like studying history, I don't know why they would think you don't know that, unless you tragically failed to post a 50-page disclaimer first. And it's stupid, and it's juvenile, and it's not useful, and I think you're entitled to say much of what I've said above, in whatever amount you please, because yeah. Sheesh.
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notyouraryang0dd3ss · 18 hours
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"I’ve seen too many people streaming her album, muted on their phones all day and night long, so it gets streams." I'm an army (bts fan) and our fandom has fanbases that study how spotify and other platforms work in order to increase our numbers, because unlike taylor swift, bts does not have support from the gp and suffers a lot of xenophobia, in addition to the boycott that it happens. I can honestly say that listening to ttpd on mute will not increase streams, spotify filters the stream if you hear anything on mute. I know you probably don't like bts but I wanted to share this with you since I hate taylor swift and the swifties, especially because swifties were being racist against bts, and last year it got worse since jungkook released his solo album
omg we got an army here…tell us your secrets
well swifties…there you have it muting your devices will not bump the streaming numbers!!!
that doesn’t surprise me. ever since bts went inactive swifties rose up and think they’re unprecedented in taylor’s level of fame/wealth. its on trend with their racism and pretending other artists of color havent achieved more international success. i swear they have amnesia and forgot how HUGE bts was not even 2 years ago. afaik taylor’s never been invited to the white house and it must be secretly killing her inside
im not here to be a kpop stan ofc i just know a lot of stan twitter/tumblr lore (bc bts was way big on tumblr in like 2015-16). poor jungkook tho :(
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walks-the-ages · 10 months
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hey just wanted to say.
if you worship A03, unfollow me.
its a website.
it is a website that has been in beta for 14 years.
its a website that willingly hosts RPF and CSA and allows racism to go unchecked.
it is a website that has donation drives 4(?) times a year and regularly exceeds their goal by hundreds of fucking dollars, but can't even protect their unpaid volunteers from being spammed with CSA
do not fucking defend A03's refusal to moderate their content.
Removing RPF and CSA and racism is not a slippery slope to removing queer content, unless you think the only queer content to exist is inherently CSA or racist??
then again considering how many mlm ships i've seen in fandoms pair up the child protagonist with the 40-60 year old villain "in the name of gay shipping", I'm honestly not surprised so many of these people are up in arms about CSA being removed.
If your queer content is indistinguishable from CSA and RPF maybe you should think about why you're sexualizing children and violating real human being's by using their names and images for your own personal pleasure?
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inukag · 1 year
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Hey Cynthia! This is kind of an ask but mainly a rant because I find this INCREDIBLY annoying, because it's clear these people don't understand the story AT ALL.
I don't think all KogKag shippers are annoying, but I'm surprised that there are so many fans who say that Kagome should've ended up with Koga because Inuyasha was aLWaYS going after Kikyo or that Koga would've TrEAtED her better. I feel like people who say this are just self-inserting onto Kagome. Reason number one: KogKag has little to no substance in canon, with her just humoring him every time he flirts with her. Number two: if they were paying attention, they would know WHY and WHEN Inuyasha went after Kikyo and that for him, there was only Kagome.
TLDR; Do you think people who say "Kagome should've chosen Koga because Inuyasha bad" are self-inserting? I know the anime changes are a huge factor, is that why people say this? I like your analyses so I'd like to know what you think.
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Hello! First of all thank you for the love 🥺
(I know I have mutuals & followers who love Koga & Kogkag so warning: this post is very critical of both!)
I’m going to start off by saying “self-inserting” exists in a lot of ships. There’s plenty of people who love Inuyasha and self-insert into Kagome with inukag. That’s not something I have a big issue with, we all have our favorite characters and there’s nothing wrong with self-indulgence. But if we analyze the canon story, I think you definitely need make Kagome OOC in order to ship her Koga. I mean, if canon!Kagome had any interest in him she wouldn't have wasted her time with Inuyasha, lol. I've said this before but the main reason why Kagome loves Inuyasha and not men like Koga and Sesshomaru is because Inuyasha has a good heart. He might have a harsh personality (that he is improving) due to his past trauma but he has never killed & eaten innocent people the way the other two did.
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Also, the racism. Kagome's defining personality trait is that she is open and welcoming with everyone. Why would she date Koga who calls people slurs unprovoked? Why would she date Sesshomaru who bullied his half-brother for being mixed? Sure these two somewhat improved their behavior over the course of the series but 1- There's no indication that Koga and his wolves changed their diet. Koga never showed any remorse for his actions and never said he wouldn't do it again. 2- Sesshomaru tolerates/respects a few people by the end of the series but he very much still sees human life as expendable (see his “Who cares?” line when he hears his action could kill everyone in Kaede’s village). That is simply not compatible with Kagome Higurashi. 
The second anon brought up some good points about the misogyny in the fandom, and how male characters like Koga are praised while Kikyo is villainized for less. I constantly see Koga fans criticizing Inuyasha for “being nice to Kikyo despite what she’s done to Kagome” yet these people seemingly have no problems with Kagome being nice to Koga despite what he has done to Inuyasha. I think both Koga and Kikyo have poorly written “redemption arcs”, I think the inukag fandom just talk more about Kikyo/Inukik because Inuyasha did have feelings for Kikyo while Kagome never had any for Koga, so usually it isn’t worth talking about. 
As for Koga being "nicer" to her, I think a lot of it is definitely anime-only. There's that one filler episode where Inuyasha insults Kagome and Koga brings her flowers later (if I remember correctly) which is obviously meant to make Koga look like the better choice. I’ve talked about this a LOT on my blog but Sunrise went out of their way to make sure Inuyasha would almost never be kind and honest with Kagome compared to the manga, and they added a bunch of scenes where he insults her. Honestly with all the things that Sunrise changed I don’t blame anime-only fans for having issues with anime!inukag. Kagome has self-esteem issues because of Inuyasha’s ex (who is her pre-incarnation) and on top of that the boy she loves insults her himself? I know a lot of inukag shippers just see it as a joke, but since Kagome’s self-worth is a real issue in the series I don’t find it particularly funny. But if we’re focusing on the manga, Inuyasha is not mean to her, he’s only rude when he’s angry (calls her ‘bakaa’ or uses ‘temee’). 
Also, what does Koga even do for Kagome beyond giving her superficial compliments? He saved her a few times, which is what Inuyasha does on a daily basis. Koga said Kagome is “pretty” and “has guts”, which in my opinion pales in comparison to what Inuyasha said about Kagome: 
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Inuyasha genuinely KNOWS Kagome. She’s his friend. He spends all his time with her. He has seen the best and worst of her. Koga is just a guy who tries to woo her when he bumps into her once in a while. Inuyasha doesn’t compliment her all the time to score points, he says these things when he can tell Kagome is feeling down and truly needs to hear it. 
Koga really is just putting on a front to look good in front of Kagome. The things he says to her are not necessarily true, as Ginta and Hakkaku point out. 
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If he did manage to win over Kagome, who’s to say he would keep up this act? Would they work out in a long-term relationship? What does Koga and Kagome have in common? Like I said, he barely knows Kagome. Unlike Inuyasha, who share Kagome’s values, and share a group of friends with her. Inuyasha knows Kagome’s world, her modern friends and her family (and they love him!). Inuyasha has a demon slaying business with Miroku and lives in a human village where Kagome can thrive as a miko. Koga rarely shows respect for what Kagome wants (he claimed her as his mate and spent the entire series touching her & calling her his “mutual lover” without her consent). Even when Kagome was crying in Inuyasha’s arms after he almost died, Koga still said he “refused to give up on her”. Like the second anon said, the guy really just can’t take a hint (until the very end), and as someone who dealt with men like this in real life I think it’s a pretty big red flag.
Inuyasha literally said he owes everything he has in his life to Kagome. That he was born for her. He continuously chose to live with her instead of dying with Kikyo, risked his life to protect her by giving her the fire rat robe, ditched Tessaiga to save her, jumped into the well every 3 days ready to abandon his world for her. The fact that some people think he’s not the biggest Kagome simp out there and think he’s not “worthy” of Kagome is insane to me. 
Inuyasha learned to give Kagome space when she needs to be alone so she can study. He respects her desire to finish school, respects the fact that she loves her world and didn’t pressure her to choose him over it. 
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Also people argue that Koga’s redeeming quality is that he cares about his pack and getting revenge for the ones that Naraku killed. Well, funny how he completely gave up on that once he lost his shikon jewel shards uh? Koga is a FULL yokai and he abandoned his vow to avenge his friends as soon as he lost his power boost, meanwhile my boy Inuyasha stays true to his promise to protect Kagome even in his WEAKEST form! 
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Rip to Koga but Inuyasha is simply built different 🤷‍♀️
Anyway, the last point is Inuyasha and his feelings for Kikyo. At this point I’m convinced some people watched/read a completely different series than I did. I mean, the other day I saw a Tik Tok that was like “When Inuyasha runs off to kiss Kikyo for the 100th time” like... what? Inuyasha initiated like 3 romantic interactions with Kikyo in the entire time he has known her. One hug when she was first revived to calm her down, one hug when he told her she could call him when she’s in danger, and the final kiss goodbye to put her soul at peace. Inuyasha is NOT a “two-timer” who “keeps going back to his ex”. He’s a 15 years old boy whose first love got brutally murdered, he started to move on and fall in love with someone else then his “ex” was revived as a vengeful revenant and guilt tripped him into thinking he should die with her. He cares for her and refused to let her get killed by her murderer again, but his real desire was to LIVE and move on and be with KAGOME. At this point anyone who doesn’t understand that probably doesn’t have the emotional maturity to understand the story. I’m not saying that Inuyasha handled the situation perfectly, because of course not, the situation is insane and the boy has no social skills from being ostracized his whole life, but the way some people think he’s a bad person for loving more than one person in his life is insane to me. And you know what sucks? Inuyasha can’t win. If he didn’t care about what happens to Kikyo because he has a new girlfriend, people would call him heartless and would criticize him for treating women like objects that can easily be replaced. And that is one of the main reasons why comparing Inuyasha to other men like Koga, Sesshomaru or even Hojo annoys me a lot: Inuyasha did NOT choose to be in the situation he’s in. He did not intend to be with both at the same time (the anime line “why can’t have a both” is NOT canon). 
I think one other issue is people projecting their personal romantic fantasies on the situation. So many people dream of being someone’s “one and only”, of having their partner tell them that they’ve “never felt like this before”, and the fact that Kagome is not the only women Inuyasha ever loved somehow makes his feelings for her less “pure” or less “intense” to them. Which never made any sense to me because 1- Why would you be less “pure” for loving many people in your life? The fact that Inuyasha fell in love & stayed with Kagome despite the fact that his “ex” was revived and wanted him should actually be proof of how much he loves Kagome 2- Kagome IS Inuyasha’s “first” in SO many ways! The first person to make him happy, the first to cry for him and to make him cry, the first to give him a home, the first person he will be intimate with, the first (and only) person he MARRIES. His past feelings for Kikyo does not take away from that. I think the worst is when people argue that Inuyasha “still thinks about Kikyo after her death” like yeah, he’s still fighting Kikyo’s murderer until the last chapter/episode and his guilt got progressively worse as he repeatedly failed to protect Kikyo, remembering her does not mean he’s still in love with her. He can’t exactly wipe out his memories. Some people even argue that he ”shows sign that he loves her” in the bonus epilogue chapter?? Never mind the fact that the epilogue chapter just kind of sucks, Inuyasha didn’t have any reaction when Kikyo was mentioned, he said he didn’t care and he was only worried that Kikyo being mentioned would hurt Kagome’s feelings. 
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When both Kagome and Kikyo were gone from his life, who did he miss? Did he go to Kikyo’s grave every 3 days wishing she hadn’t died? Did Inuyasha ever think about using the shikon jewel or Tenseiga to bring her back properly so he could be with her? No he never did, because Kagome is the one he was born for and the one he wanted to spend his life with, not Kikyo. 
Tl;dr: From what I’ve seen the popularity of kogkag seems to be from people who just like Koga better than Inuyasha and are willing to ignore (or they don’t remember) all the atrocities he committed because they find him hotter and more “charming”, which is fine to me until people actually claim that Kagome should have been with Koga in canon. People who say that are usually just mad about the love triangle because 1- they only watched the anime and haven’t read the manga (and they also misremember the anime) 2- they idealize this idea of being someone’s “first and only love” and they think Inuyasha’s feelings for Kikyo “tarnish” that and 3- they usually lack the emotional maturity to understand the situation Inuyasha was forced in and don’t realize that Inuyasha did the best he could. Inuyasha is a hanyo who was alone all his life and is just starting to open up and trust others while Koga is a full yokai who never had to struggle in his life, and despite that Inuyasha consistently proved that he is a better person. Just because Koga is loud and straight forward with his advances doesn’t make him more loving than Inuyasha, who actually knows Kagome and is romantic and kind to her when it matters the most. 
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mistress-of-vos · 5 months
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Cancel me if you want but... The fact that so many J*yT*m shippers go their way to write a full bible about Ra's being obsessed with Tim (plus writing extremely racist elements) and Tim hating Ra's and having Jason (and/or Kon) be all stereotypical BL top with the whole "I'm gonna kill that old pervert man" is...
Tiring. Predictable. Boring.
You cannot convince me this has nothing to do with Ra's being Ra's, you know, a non white villain who has a complex background and subjective elements. It's always that side of fandom having Ra's being an awful character to prop up Jason, having extremely racist scenarios where Jason rescues a kidnapped Tim forced in harem clothing, insisting Ra's is an abuser... It's tiring. Everytime I go into the Ra's tag, I see one of these people being awful to Ra's for the sake of it. Why can't you just write your JT stuff and leave Ra's alone, for God's sake!?
I'm. So. Tired. *Those* jokes aren't funny. Portraying Ra's in the most racist way possible isn't funny. This whole speech about why JT is okay but Ra'sTim isn't it's not funny either. You all just show how racist you are and how you don't care to show so if that way you can prop up a white character.
And honestly? A lot of people who are posting stuff in the Ra's tag these days should shut up. You don't know Ra's' character at all, we can all tell. But have fun with your awful treatment of poc characters, I guess! I bet you *love* posting it.
"Omg what if Ra's were obsessed with Tim's spleen and I write Ra's in the most awful way and I have lovely JT too? 🥰" amazing how you all wanna try to make your racism look fine but the worst part it's fandom eating it up and then insisting they aren't racist. Alas, who is surprised tbh? Wouldn't (and shouldn't) expect anything but horrible behavior from DC fandom.
If the coat fits wear it or whatever. Bye.
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the sacred 28 is peak jkr tbh. We learn nothing about progress or how things changed for halfbloods, muggleborns, squibs, etc, but years after the series ends we get more pureblood focus, like why did this even need to exist beyond her racism huh?
Sorry anon, I don't know if you were expecting solidarity or agreement from me, but I...don't really have any to offer.
...Really? We're going to presume she's a blood purist in her real life politics because she added a bit of in-universe world-building to her cash cow like, ten years ago? (I mean...she might be, but this isn't proof.) It is not surprising that the Pureblood Directory exists. Nor is it proof of anything. I actually think it's kind of neat. I like that we don't know who wrote it. That it has inconsistencies and flaws. I am not remotely surprised that such a piece was published in this world. And I'm not going to assume anything about the author based on this update because...honestly, that's nuts.
Trying to guess a writer's real life politics based on the nuances they include in the sub-creationist fantasy world they craft is...a losing game.
I don't know why the fandom feels the need to keep doing this. Not saying this is you, anon (though you kind of give that impression) but some of the HP fans (or "former fans" if you like) are fixated on dissecting the book and trying to find traces of the person Rowling is now in a narrative she wrote twenty years ago. You guys really don't need to keep inventing new reasons to hate her when there's perfectly good transphobia already out in the open. Transphobia that she keeps doubling down on.
Gotta be honest...I don't think this is helping. Criticize her for her actual bigotry and the damage she's causing, sure. But people will choose to focus on the books "supporting slavery" through the House Elves or featuring a "trans stereotype" with Rita Skeeter...all of it feels like people are reaching. No, the series isn't homophobic just because Dumbledore's sexuality could have been handled better. It isn't racist just because Cho Chang has two last names. (This is just a side note but she's not explicitly Chinese...or even explicitly Asian. They never confirm her race in the text. I mean, it's pretty clear that she is, I'm just saying.)
We don't need to waste time on this stuff. Rowling is actually hurting people with bigotry that she actually believes in. Let's focus on that instead of trying to piece together a dossier about how she was "always" awful. I honestly don't think that's the case, but it doesn't matter anyway. When I see posts like these, it frankly just comes across as people who have been burned by Rowling trying to "ruin" Harry Potter for the allies who still feel a connection to the series...if so, that's not going to work, and there are productive things you can do. Follow Daniel Radcliffe's example, he is slaying as a human being.
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livingincolorsagain · 8 months
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Hey, I'm not sure if this will make you feel any better but I'm pretty sure that Ao3 comment is just rage bating/trolling to get a reaction. There's been an uptick in these kind of things lately, especially since Ao3 has been an increasingly popular/trendy thing to post about on Tiktok, etc. "r/Ao3" on Reddit is full of people reporting things like this. The subreddit is also full of people reporting certain users who go around targeting stories about ships they don't like and leaving abuse in the comments and stalking writers across Tumblr/Twitter, etc. It's basically just morons participating in ship wars. They throw out buzz words to intimidate people but when you look closely you realise they have nothing of substance to say. I wonder if this user been called out on racism in the fandom before (perhaps from a SamBucky shipper? Or at least a Sam Wilson fan) and now they have a grudge because it hit a nerve so they're trying to pull the uno reverse card - this could be a classic case of projection. But who knows. I can't fully work out what they're trying to say anyway and suspect they don't really know themselves.
The comment is also very generic. I wouldn't be surprised if they went through and copied and pasted it across multiple SamBucky fics. Chances are, they didn't actually bother to read your fic at all - they just went straight to the comment section. This is definitely not the first time they've done this.
Anyway, in short - the comment has nothing to do with your writing. I personally love your works. Misery just loves company. <3
Honestly I don’t know how to feel. The more I think about the comment, the more I find the whole thing ridiculous. It was disheartening and awful to get but honestly I’m still not sure what point they were trying to make. Pretty they don’t even know what point they’re trying to make.
I certainly hope other sambucky writers aren’t getting this kind of shitty comments, but I wouldn’t be surprised. It happens way more often than it has any right to. But yeah, I don’t think they actually read the fic.
Thank you, anon, it means a lot <3
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competitivedust · 1 year
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YESS THANK YOU
I'm gonna be honest, aside from s5 Fitz, I thought he was a good man, but after rewatching aos for the 5th time and confirming it by reading the anti tags on tumblr and people pointing out his mistakes(I actually need to watch/read something more than 3 times to understand what's happening, I hope you don't mind) , I realised he wasn't all that good
Also, idk if you remember back in s2 ep3. Coulson told Fitz that Jemma was on an assignment that's why she left, but apparently I think Fitz only heard the she left part and then back in s2 ep4, he proceeded to tell Hunter and Mack that he confessed his feelings for her and told them Jemma left because she doesn't feel the same way. And Hunter saying it's her loss ???
Like??? Why are you twisting the story??? She did not leave because she doesn't feel the same way, you didn't even give her a chance to explain because you two were at the bottom of the ocean and not to mention, his confession surprise the hell out of her and then back to talking about s2 ep3&4,
Leading the new members (aside from Bobbi) to have negative feelings towards her. And then told her to take it easy with Fitz blah blah Fitz is a good man blah blah but what about Jemma??? Why don't y'all take it easy with her?? She literally just came back from months of deadly mission that could get her killed but all they cared about is how Fitz feel and how he feels about her? What about how Jemma feels?
Sorry for ranting here. I feel like most of aos stans on tumblr is the only place to actually be defending Daisy and Jemma (sometimes) here. Most stans on the other apps keep saying Daisy was being a bitch the whole time and then proceed to defend the whole fitzsimmons family
No please don't apologise for these "rants" which they honestly aren't. These are some really good points. And reading this is just so freaking validating because I do remember this happening in season 2 and it did strike me as odd that he had the audacity to be hurt over Jemma going on a mission.
It's funny how much worse Fitz seems to be as a character the more you watch this show right? Also I use reddit a lot so I have actually managed to find maybe 7 or 8 like minded people who really can't stand Fitz as well. Majority of the fandom still thinks he is great but that is to be expected I guess. I don't want to cite racism and sexism as the reasons here but if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...
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defenestrationtactics · 3 months
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beta reader/ editor
heyo!! I posted something earlier saying I'd love to be a beta reader for someone and a surprising amount of people responded so here's my official post.
Do YOU 🫵 want a beta reader or editor for a piece of writing??
Well... look no further.
I'm Fenyx, here's my carrd, and I'd love to be your silly little beta reader and/or editor.
Below the divider are what I will and will not read/edit. If you're interested, I'd greatly appreciate it if you'd fill out this extremely short (and very quick) form. It asks general questions about what you're writing and what you'd like me to do, and it makes communication less convoluted. Thanks <3
I will: • read both fanfictions and original works • read fanfics of any fandom and writing of any genre • provide whatever type of feedback you would like (eg. grammar, pacing, plot, general opinions) • be silly
I will not: • read/edit smut fics - if a story has smut in it that's fine, but i won't read fics that are predominantly smut • read/edit writing that revolves around romanticised incest, pedophilia, and general yuckiness • read/edit writing that tries to portray homophobia, transphobia, racism, ableism, general yuckiness in a positive light (if these themes are within a story but are critiqued or portrayed in a way that DOES NOT try to glorify them, that is okay. probably. there's a fine line, so don't cross it)
Honestly, I would just love to read and edit anything. I'd even edit your english assignments tbh. I currently study High Level Language and Literature as a Grade 12 student, so I'm no professional, but I'd like to think I know a bit about what I'm doing.
Anyways, bye then ig 🫡
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opinated-user · 1 year
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God I wish LO never touched TOH, people regurgitate her harmful takes without realizing why its harmful because Lily sits there and attacks anyone she pleases while acting like she has some moral high ground. Why the fuck is the fandom okay with perpetuating this idea that "teen girls just like Hunter cause he's white" its honestly pretty sexist to assume teen girls only like something because of some underlying prejudice and not the blatantly obvious "Hunter is a likable character with an intense storyline that makes him popular". Surprise surprise the character with an intense storyline is popular what a shock just like a lot of popular characters like Catra. I just think its more harmful to perpetuate the idea that just the act of liking a character makes you prejudiced in some way especially when the source of that idea is actively attacking creators left and right and making assumptions about them just for just making the stories they wish to make since its obvious Dana's driving forces for Hunter's inclusion was the grimwalker storyline where Hunter is a creation based on Belos's brother and simply just an engaging storyline of this kid who's caught up in a messed up situation realizing the true horrors of the emperors coven and leaving his abusive parental figure and finding a found family that accepts him and treats him like a normal person not like a servant. I'm just so sick of seeing this idea being thrown around because it shames people for the horrible crime of liking a character while Lily sits there and pretends she did something good while all she did was encourage people to shit on others for liking a character and making uncalled for assumptions about the creator.
it's also a pretty disgusting way to use a real serious issue like racism like that. i said it on another post but there's actual racism in fandom that LO just never adresses or care about because it's not about putting down Hunter or people who like him, it's about uplifting and appreciating the POC character... something she also doesn't care about unless she complains about them having an emotional arc or feelings outside of chirpy, which ironically enough is it's own form of fandom racism.
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killbaned · 10 months
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its not derailing its adding several cargo cars onto the train
so, i genuinely can't tell if this subtly trying to tell me my tags were as bad as derailing and that i overstepped with them or not i'm sorry.
i wasn't trying to take a post about fandom racism and make it not about fandom racism, i just thought it was worth noting that with so much of the content that exists in x reader fic that like
at this point the racism is a feature, not a bug. (which is not said in a way that's surprised btw given fandom's history and current issues with racism.)
and i think there's a larger discussion to be had about the specific type of like, cishet white women that churn this shit out hand over fist and again, the way that it's almost always the same shit just with different names.
it's to the point where they may as well just be writing original erotica because they strip whatever their blorbo of the week is so much that it's not remotely the same character any more.
but the discussions never seem to happen because the authors deflect and engage in like, white woman tears/white fragility every time someone says 'hey this is kinda fucked up' and pull a 'god forbid women enjoy anything'.
also on a personal note it's a topic that kinda festers in my brain because even as someone who has a fucking cringe sideblog for blorbo content, i am so fucking tired of never having anything in the blorbo or fandom tags but fucking x reader fic. it's like trying to deal with a roach infestation, honestly. every time you block one you find two more hanging out you didn't know about.
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sixstepsaway · 2 years
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Some grist for the class/work ethic issues vs homophobia/femmephobia mill - while namby-pamby and ponce are both used as homophobic slurs now, namby-pamby originally meant weak and maudlin speech, and still means lacking courage, strength, and energy, ineffectual and weak. Sure this can be short-hand for "ew, gay" but reducing it to that strips it of context, of things like the individual characters and their dynamic and situation (that's what I find all of these reductive readings have in common actually - the depersonalization and dehumanisation of the individuals involved. They become empty shells you can slap a neat label on and move them around the board like game pieces).
Ponce? Wasn't used to mean "male homosexual" until the 1930s. Before that, in British slang, it meant a pimp, as in a man supported by immoral earnings. Unknown origin but possibly from the French pensionnaire - a person living without working.
Is David Jenkins using words that are really no different from f***** now, or is he using words that had a different more nuanced connotation then and play into the class issues and Izzy's fear of softness (not femininity and god I wish people would stop equating luxury with feminine). I have no idea.
Is he using those words as an audience shortcut to "Izzy simply thinks 'ew, gay'"? I don't see how, looking at the totality of the character and Con's performance (and later scripts were written with Con's performance in mind).
Is he using words that at first glance make us think "oh a homophobe" and if you don't think about it any further than the words used Izzy's story in S2 might be more of a surprise and if you do it might be more satisfying? I hope so.
Gonna start here because it's applicable to the whole rest of my thoughts:
that's what I find all of these reductive readings have in common actually - the depersonalization and dehumanisation of the individuals involved. They become empty shells you can slap a neat label on and move them around the board like game pieces
It isn't just depersonalization and dehumanization of Izzy and Ed, either, it's depersonalization and dehumanization of the people writing and participating in the show, too. I made the mistake of opening the Izzy Hands tag and I immediately found people arguing about racism from Izzy again and, like, saying why people should be "cautious" or "careful" about shipping him and Ed because of it, specifically talking about the scene where the people of color are moving the anchor and Wee John is sitting down (a scene Ed wasn't even in, mind), and one of the writers had explained that scene? And why it was done that way? And their take was to comment on how things can slide past the writers so easily? And I was just like-- but-- the writers wrote it-- I dunno. It feels very... "You can't write deliberately, you can only write how we see it."? I'm not sure I'm phrasing this right. It just seemed like a way of handwaving the reasons for the scene being the way it was because they wanted to keep seeing what they were seeing, I guess? I see a lot of that, in fandom, and they do the same thing re: Izzy being supposedly homophobic.
(I think if the entire cast bar like three people were white and Izzy was very specifically framed as cruel to those three people and the three people were doing hard labor and all the white people were seated and doing nothing, that...? would be different? but you have to frame the scene in question against 1x05 (Lucius) and against everything else Izzy has done so far? And it's... a dishonest reading, in my opinion (and as I've said, the opinion of fans of color who can and should talk about this far more than I can or should), and it's the kind of reading where they extract a singular scene from the entire show and then present it without context to say "Look! Bad!" and honestly you can do that with everything? You could extract the scene where Stede is bossing Roach around re: the hostages on the beach and show it without context and say how that is racist too, and how when Stede bosses Lucius around in the first few episodes he's being homophobic, or the way Stede reads stories to the crew and you could crop only the people of color into it and say he was infantilizing them, and so on.
When you divorce scenes and clips from their context, you, well, lose context, and it strips not only the characters and writers of their agency but also the actors who consented to take part in those scenes and deliver those lines.)
But that just comes back down to the essay I keep referencing that said it does the show a disservice to badly contextualize in this way, and people seem to think everyone should be a hive-mind about everything else, be it whether a show or scene is homophobic/racist/sexist/whatever or whether a character is likeable or not, even though everyone will always have differing ideas, including in reference to their own marginalization.
By the same token, when you take something like 'namby-pamby' firstly out of context and secondly pretend it's on the same level as the f-slur, you're just being disingenuous as fuck.
It's like that clip of some right-wing show I remember seeing, where the guy was like, "Is saying cracker as bad as saying the n-word?" and the overwhelming response was, "My dude, clearly the fuck not, since you said cracker and went with 'the n-word' instead of saying that. You knew it wasn't on the same level, or you would have said both equally and ya didn't."
So when they say, "Oh, well, Izzy said namby-pamby but we all know he was calling Ed a f***," they're being deliberately disingenuous to paint Izzy as worse than he is. You can do that for just about every line in the show if you want to, you can say, "Well, Stede said I'm your friend but we all know he was saying Please don't kill me."
Well, no, they mean different things. They are different words. Words mean things, and they are chosen deliberately, especially in a writing context! People choose words deliberately when they're speaking (so, the characters in question), and writers choose words with even more deliberate care and attention while writing.
Izzy didn't say the f-slur because the f-slur is not what he was saying.
Now, I know that the anachronisms in the show are a popular conversation to laugh about, so although you are absolutely right about namby-pamby not meaning what they imply it means, although it can be used in a homophobic manner as you say, but I'm willing to say that technically, they're probably using it in a more modern manner.
That said, it's still not equitable to the f-slur, and considering the use of 'donkey' earlier in the show, which was very specifically used to show the character in question as racist and then that character was immediately dealt with in response to that racism, I find it hard to believe that the person who wrote this line (David Jenkins, I assume, since it's 1x10) 'was actually meaning the f-slur'.
There's also the context that a queer man using a queer slurs against another queer man is miles different to a straight dude using a queer slur. Reclamation and all of that. So even if Izzy had used the f-slur, it would still be different in context (him also being queer, which is frankly canon due to the scenes with Lucius and the face touch with Ed, even without David Jenkins' word of god saying he's in love with Ed) than just a guy using a slur.
The ponce one amuses me especially since it was used against Stede in 1x04 and I mean, yeah. I know our Stede isn't a slave owner (thank god), but he's a landowner and the class slant of looking at Izzy using 'ponce' to refer to Stede in this manner is excellent to mull over.
Is David Jenkins using words that are really no different from f***** now
I meaaaaaaan, as I said above, if it really was no different to the f-slur, I think you would have simply written the f-slur out, much like you wrote out namby-pamby. Instinctively we all know it's not the same.
is he using words that had a different more nuanced connotation then and play into the class issues and Izzy's fear of softness
Far more likely. Far more likely. When Izzy said 'namby-pamby', I heard it more as comparing Edward to a foot kicking teenage girl on his bed pining after his schoolgirl crush than picking on the fact his schoolgirl crush was the same gender as him. I also heard it more as a comment on the fact he was literally walking around in an undone silk robe with literally no armor at all and was exposing his squishy inner core for the world to see.
It also meaning 'gay' did not occur to me, I think because although homophobia very clearly does exist in the OFMD universe, it doesn't quite exist in the same way on the Revenge, because most of the cast on that ship are queer.
See also: Jim being revealed as a woman and then being revealed as not a woman but not a man either, and the issues the guys have with that is "women have crystals in their bodies" (Frenchie, when he still thought they were a woman), "Can I be Jim if you're not Jim anymore?" (the Swede) and "Can I go back to being mute?" (jim). We were still in muppet comedy when Izzy did his namby-pamby thing, we hadn't genre shifted yet, and the muppet comedy of the Revenge doesn't have homophobia.
Yes, the show does. Yes, the show discusses it in its own way, but the crew of the Revenge does not. No one comments on Lucius and Pete, who are not subtle. Pete says that Lucius has naked-sketched most of the crew. Lucius outright hits on Fang to get him to let him draw him and off of barnacle duty without a single fear he'll be hate crimed for it. Lucius hits on Izzy because he knows Izzy might punch him for hitting on him, but it won't be because he's a dude, it'll be because he's pushing his damn luck.
Is he using those words as an audience shortcut to "Izzy simply thinks 'ew, gay'"? I don't see how, looking at the totality of the character and Con's performance (and later scripts were written with Con's performance in mind).
If he wanted a true audience shortcut, using a term that's far less common would not be a shortcut. The f-slur would be the shortcut, imo.
Also worth noting that my search came up with this for namby-pamby:
Definition of namby-pamby 1 : lacking in character or substance : insipid. 2 : weak, indecisive.
and I mean-- it's not that far off of Ed in his red robe. It's not a very nice word to call someone, but there's far worse to use out there.
Is he using words that at first glance make us think "oh a homophobe" and if you don't think about it any further than the words used Izzy's story in S2 might be more of a surprise and if you do it might be more satisfying? I hope so.
I hope so too.
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effervescentdragon · 1 year
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Okay so thoughts on shadow & bone S1? If you feel like rambling a bit - opinions about the characters/ships/plot? Ty 💕✨️
Hello! I'm navigating the hell of academia and as im waiting for friends who have the application process figured out to get back to me, why not answer this lovely ask :) thank you for asking me btw i love to give my opinions about stuff :)) under the cut bcs its probably gonna get long... hugs! <3
i mean.., its silly. not to say stupid but like, it very much shows that its a ya novel. i wasnt expecting much, given that i wasnt invested in it since i havent read the books or anything, but its just... silly and cliched. the writing choices are very much in like with ya literature, there werent any surprises or plot twists that i havent foreseen at least a bit in a way, and its a good show to like, semi watch when your brain is foggy and you need sth to rest your brain bcs you dont need extreme brainpower to follow it, or much brain power at all if im honest.
i have absolute beef with the completely insane way that language was butchered, alongside slavic naming conventions. it grates on your brain when youre familiar with it, so thats a minus. on the other hand, i didnt like the worldbuilding around the shu - you choose a fake russia to be the center kinda good guys, and you choose a vaguely mongolian-chinese resembling guys to be the villains. there was no nuance to the racism, and from what i understand, the author is american, so i dont get why theyd even write about these things without bothering to do even basic research. idk if im explaining it well, but that pissed me off.
i like the crows? kaz is hillarious, as are the rest, and all ive been hearing tells me they are the best part of the series. i figured out nina and matthias are also crows, or will become so, so thats cool. love their "priest witchunter falls in love w the witch" story, it very much reminds me of illya kuryakin and napoleon solo from man from unkle, and im a sucker for that. cant wait to see more inej and jesper too, they are literally the most interesting part of the show.
alina is a typical chosen one protagonist, tho her and mal are cute. i liked ben barnes more as prince kaspian. im thinking (and friends told me), that he gets babyfied and uwufied by the fandom, whichis honestly expected. imma browse the fanfics to see if theres sth interesting but im not holding my breath xD hes just... basic wannabe antagonist villain. loki wannabe xD idk.
anyways, it was fun to watch it and to bitch about it, imma do it again when s2 comes out probably, if i dont forget about it by now. its not a very memorable series for me. im more excited for a single episode of tatort saabrücken than i am for this tbh xD but oh well. i'll take whatever holds my attention (broadly speaking) these days :)
thanks again for asking me! all the hugs to you <3
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otulissa-archive · 2 years
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Rambling about Warriors fandom stuff cuz if I don't complain then I'm going to be physically unable to do anything else today.
I won't comment much on the specifics of the current affair for personal reasons, but if you're able, you can support Ottie (who is bearing the brunt of targeted racism) at their Twitter here.
I'm consistently embarrassed by the Warriors fandom.
I know it's not the whole fandom and I don't think that liking Warriors inherently makes you a bad person, but if I had to name the most vile community I have experience with, it would 100% be the Warriors fandom (specifically Twitter/Youtube.)
I've experienced racism in many forms (online and off), and honestly? This is the one I could complain about far longer than any "go back to your country" comments I've received. And I mean, bigotry in any form absolutely blows, I'm not saying this to rank them on the racism chart! But I think it's just exceptionally frustrating to me here because I (and other marginalized people I know) have found community in this fandom before. I have a fantastic group of friends who are mature, willing to listen and learn from mistakes, and just happen to also enjoy Warriors content.
But, for every friend I've met through Warriors that I hold dear, there are a dozen people going "people are being so dramatic over children's cat books lol" in response to people of color outright voicing their discomfort with both the writing itself and fandom attitudes.
And this happens so often!
I'll see people in the aftermath go "I'm not surprised, this fandom's always been bad" and I'm glad it's acknowledged (as opposed to being ignored), but if it's always happening, why stay? Why continue supporting a hateful fandom with less-than-decent writing? At what point does nostalgia for a childhood book series outweigh the the hearts of real people who are being affected?
I still struggle with these feelings of cowardice in leaving the fandom, but at the same time, it was the most emotionally draining community I've had the displeasure of being a part of and I'm still ultimately glad I'm done with it.
I like to think I'm an optimist. I want things to change and I want the overall community to be better, but honestly and genuinely, I have given up on the public Warriors fandom ever being a place I'm comfortable in again.
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