#if he didn't know outright

[tswwwit]

The newest installment of the Cult AU was so amazing and gratifying! I do have to ask about Dipper's reaction when Bill suggested that next time he hide *in* his bed - should we assume that Dipper just truly doesn't think there's any possibility that Bill would want him like that, or does it potentially reflect some truly non-existent sex ed within the cult? Did the cultists have relationships like that within the cult?

I hope you post this AU and your other shorter works on AO3, id love to be able to bookmark and comment.

Thank you for your kind words!

Dipper's reaction was mostly because the cult had sub-par to non-existent sex ed. Though to be fair, even if he was aware that Bill was, ahem, an option, he definitely wouldn't think there's any way he'd want Dipper like that.

#answers #Dipper's a smart guy who went poking around in forbidden texts #So I think he's probably got an idea of some of the mechanics and anatomy of sex #But a fairly limited amount! #And anything of a non-straight nature would have been just completely off his radar #Various cult members are for sure getting it on in the background of course #Insular communities are like that #But you can also assume that Dipper pretty much was out of the loop there #He didn't get any invites before he was a Blasphemer and definitely none post de-tonguing #What you get there is a sheltered little guy who's whip-smart - but doesn't know what he doesn't know #He might have caught on if he thought to ask the question but he doesn't know there's a question to ask #Pretty bad cult altogether; I'm betting it was Extremely Heteronormative if not outright homophobic #Which like. C'mon. BIll's not even a human gender. What the hell kind of business are they on enforcing *norms* #He'd be very VERY annoyed at that bullshit

[nobodymitskigabriel]

The other thing about the who knows Dean best debate is that Dean doesn't know everything about Sam either. They spent their whole child lives with four years and a neglectful father between them so a big part of their journey especially in the beginning is learning who the other really is. I don't know where this idea came from that Dean magically knows everything about Sam just because he had to look after him sometimes e.g. he didn't know that Sam believed in God and prayed every day. But because he reacts to learning things about Sam much differently than Sam reacts to learning things about him, it's like only the latter sticks in people's heads? I mean practically all of 5x17 is Dean learning about a whole new side of Sam...and just not accepting it. Sam and Dean know each other better than anyone else, and they both have blind spots when it comes to the other. I think that's pretty unavoidable in any close familial relationship.

#dean brushing it off or making a joke or being outright hostile to learning something about sam vs #sam being thoughtful and saying out loud “i didn't know that” #is it because he said it that it stuck in peoples' heads? do you need the character to say they didnt know something for you to absorb it? #supernatural #sam and dean #fandom wank #sam winchester

[buckttommy]

Edy Ganem stop being queerphobic challenge level: IMPOSSIBLE.

#I didn't want to say anything because I know I have a considerable number of followers and I didn't want anyone sending her hate because of #something I posted. But since I'm no longer the only one talking about it... #Now Miss Girl. #You know good and well at your big age you could (and should!) have just left well enough alone #and that's my thing is #people create these situations for themselves and then act shocked when their actions (or lack of action since she still didn't issue a real #acknowledgement or apology) has consequences. #Being anti-queerphobic is about way more than the rainbow LOVE IS LOVE rhetoric leftists like to pronounce and that's where most people get #tripped up. I feel like she's one of those people — at least with the transphobic little joke that no one laughed at #But with that comment about turning a straight character gay? That's just outright homophobia and it's not cool. She could have chosen to #ignore it but instead she chose to like AND comment sooooo. How else is that meant to he interpreted except ignorance at best #and intentional homophobia at the very worst? #Anyways. Devin Kelley is the only valid 9-1-1 girlfriend. I know she's dead but can we bring Shannon back? #No? Okay? [sad tigger walking away.gif]

[astro-b-o-y-d]

How pissed do you think Shermie was when he found out about what really happened with Stan and Ford???

#Hayley Speaks #It might not hit as hard if you headcanon him as the baby in the flashback #But if you don't and you headcanon him as older than them it's like #Okay so he comes home to find out one of his younger brothers got kicked out #And the other moved all the way to the other side of the country #And then the news about Stan being dead comes up #So I fully imagine that while Stan never outright told him about what happened; he knows damn well that he's not Ford #Even after all the time they spent apart; that is so CLEARLY Stanley Pines who is suddenly going by Stanford #Maybe Stan hides his hands around Shermie to continue the con but Shermie knows #Which means something probably happened to Ford and Stan doesn't want anyone to know #So he keeps the secret and doesn't let on that he knows #He could always confront Stan about it but also like #The last time he really saw Stan was long before he got kicked out of the house #He does NOT want to scare off what is potentially the only brother he has left #He's always felt like the third wheel when it came to them; both because of the twin thing and the 'being the oldest' thing #Combined with the whole 'Pines men don't talk about their feelings' thing; he thinks it's best to just let Stan keep pretending to be Ford #And silently mourn the loss of the brother that the rest of the family doesn't realize is even gone #But THEN the grandkids are like 'Yeah Grunkle Stan's twin brother is back now!' and he's PISSED OFF #He kept Stan's secret for THIRTY YEARS and the bastard didn't even have the gall to let him know that Ford was back face to face #Neither of the bastards had the gall to do it?! #They just took off on a fishing boat together in search of adventure?? #He's so mad at them but also...that is so painfully in character for them. At least from the memories he has of them as young kids. #But also.......he's their brother #They couldn't have told him ANYTHING???

[carnivalcarriondiscarded]

hmmmm having angsty Lights Out thoughts

#i know when i post about it i usually make it Lighthearted if not outright Memey #but oh boy. this au is dark. like - like beyond the literal meaning #imagine being abandoned by your creators without so much as a warning #one day the lights go out and thats it. no answers. no comfort. no friendly faces or explanation #show's over. curtains closed. doors locked. they're all gone #it's just waiting in a pitch black room because surely the lights will turn back on. the next day will come #but it Won't. the next day won't come. it will never come. your friends won't open their eyes again. it's just you now. #you've always had company - friends and the comfort of feeling Watched Over by something beyond your understanding #but you blinked and its gone now. it's just you. no matter what you try or what you do - its. just. you. #days and weeks and moths and years of silence and a complete lack of color #burning matches down to your fingertips just to remember what shade of yellow your fleece is #its still wrong. firelight stains the color. #slowly forgetting the sound of your friends voices and what their smiles looked like and what the memories you made with them were #what was your best friends favorite joke? what was his hotdog order? how did he laugh? he used to pose for your paintings didnt he? #you can't be sure anymore. maybe the neighborhood was always dead. maybe You're dead. how can you tell? #you don't breathe. they don't either. they used to didn't they? you never did but they used to. ...right? you hope their dreams are sweet #one of your friends starts sleepwalking. you're so happy. she hurts you. you know she didnt mean it. you're scared anyway. #you can only see with one eye now. it feels... Wrong. all of your chalk drawings start coming out wrong too. #you keep missing when you reach for things. just one more thing to adjust to #were the lights ever on? or was that your own dream? you thought that was something you couldnt do. #you also thought the lights always come back. you were wrong about that. what else are you wrong about? #wh lights out au #wailing sobbing screaming etc over lights out wally... this poor little 12 apples dude... #aimlessly wandering through the town... walking through the buildings.... #eventually getting so fucking lonely and desperate that you keep your best friend's severed arm for comfort #all you can do is protect your eternally sleeping friends from the Things crawling out of the shadows #mark another tally on the ground for each full circle the town clock's short hand completes #and wait for the day you fall asleep and join your friends dreams. it will happen someday. #you can feel it in the pitch seeping from your eyes and mouth. more with each decade that passes #just a little while longer. some more waiting. just you. in the dark.

[ante--meridiem]

Well. Potentially inadvisable message I sent a few days ago not really expecting a reply to did, in fact, get a reply.

#personal #for those with enough knowledge of blog lore to know what I'm talking about here: #I caved and messaged First Ex/Former Closest Friend again #out of a mixture of the fact that I keep circling back to that friendship breakup on an approximately monthly basis that I knew #I'd never be able to really let it go unless I at least tried once #and the confidence from my knowledge of him that if our positions were reversed *he* would have tried #in any case. He's not sure if we'll succeed in being friends again but he *is* willing to talk #on the condition (which I offered in my initial message) of me not telling any of the people we mutually know #that he ended up having issues with #that we are speaking with #& there is (unsurprisingly since there was clearly a lot missing from the stories I'd gotten) more to said issues than I'd heard about #which it sounds like he's going to elaborate on when we talk #I think the biggest difficulty for me in re-establishing contact like this is going to be accepting that he and my mother #outright despise each other now #which. l mean - I'd never claim she's perfect #she can be very blunt in a way that comes off as just *mean* and hurtful and I've been hurt by that too #but she's also been a much better parent to me than most people's parents seem to be to them #it's possible maybe even likely that if some of our arguments when I was younger had ended in us cutting ties rather than #eventually talking it through that I would see her the same way Former Closest Friend does #but they didn't and she's been at certain points amazingly supportive since #so it's likely I'm going to have a hard time reconciling the version of her he's going to present to me with that #even though I'm totally open to believing that he's justified in how he feels about whatever happened #& I'm not going to be able to process it out loud irl bc that would violate the 'not telling people involved about this' clause #so there may be a lot of venty personal tumblr posts coming soon to a blog near you

[lloydfrontera]

Hello! Did Javier or Frontera couple actually never find out that Original Lloyd and Kim Suho shared the same soul????

That's so sad :"(

they don't :( but to be fair neither does lloyd. as far as i know, this is an audience exclusive revelation and no one in-universe knows about it.

and tbh i'm kinda glad? i don't know, i much prefer that the affection and love that exists between the frontera family and suho come from their own experiences and the relationship they built by themselves rather than because it turned out suho was their own child all along. i think it would cheapen the found family aspect of it all.

as it is, i think it was... not a bad decision on bk moon's part to make the twist, but only because he waited to drop the bomb til the last chapter, once all the relationships had already been developed on their own. had it been on the middle of the novel, there would've always been the doubt of "oh is he doing all of this because they were his family in his previous life? does he actually care for them or does he just feel guilty? do they only love each other because they were biological family once?" and honestly it would've sucked, i hate just thinking about it lol

as it is, i think it's already a slippery slope, i've already seen a couple comments about how suho is the way he is because of og lloyd's feelings and guilt and like,,,, No ajsdhjka

for one thing suho has no recollection of his previous life, he's not at all affected by og lloyd's guilt or memories, everything he does, everything he feels is because of his own lived experiences and character. to attribute everything he accomplishes to the last split second resolution of a man who never cared enough to do something for himself or his family in his own life, would be a disservice to his character and honestly, kind of a let down if that's what bkm was going for.

and for another, i just think it's way more poignant to have lloyd find a family that loves and cares for him, not because of blood ties or same-soul shenanigans, but because of who he is and what he's done. it would be kind of disappointing for the story to say "they only care for each other because they were biological family before" because,,, then what was the point of the build up, of their relationship development, of the slowburn of lloyd coming to accept that not only does he sees arcos and marbella as parents but that he deserves their love too. it would negate how big of a choice it was for the fronteras themselves to decide that they loved lloyd, even knowing he wasn't their son, that they cared for him not as a replacement but as his own person, that they trusted him even after the deception, that they wanted him to come home and be part of their family.

all of that would be kind of cheapened if everyone knew that suho's previous life was og lloyd, because then what's the big problem, it's still the same soul, it's basically the same person, they were already family once, no big deal to be family again, everything is wrapped up in a neat little bow with no loose ends and they can carry on their merry lives without facing the big difficult emotions that come with all of the previously mentioned dilemmas.

ok maybe i'm exaggerating a little, i do think there would be very interesting feelings to explore if they did end up knowing about it, but let's be honest, they wouldn't have been explored in canon lol. this is not the kind of novel to explore the grand dilemmas that come with a reincarnated soul making amends for the faults it committed in its previous life and that's okay, not every novel can be.

but i don't know. perhaps i just like the found family trope more than the 'they were related all along' one even if it's just soul wise askjdlafkd

again this is just the way i see things, if you feel differently that's also perfectly okay and i would love to talk about it if you guys want! i'm just. being silly :3

#hey i got an ask #faceless-dude #tged #the greatest estate developer #lloyd frontera #og lloyd frontera #arcos frontera #marbella frontera #god i didn't even mention javier in this. #but honestly. i think it's for the best that javier never knew about it. #it was such a big character moment for him to decide to not turn lloyd in when he figures he's a fake #his loyalty divided between the oath he made in protecting the frontera family. his responsibility of keeping og lloyd safe. #and the loyalty he has towards lloyd. his genuine belief that the best option is for him to stay. the ruthless conviction that if he has to #choose what lloyd to keep then there's basically no contest as the fake one is the one that's keeping everything together #it's not a kind thought but it is a logical one and he knows og lloyd is useless if not outright harmful for the estate and so he chooses #what he thinks is best for the estate and the family even if he does feel guilty for not keeping his master's son safe #it is a big character motivation moment for him #and all of it would be kind of moot if he knew that the lloyd he chose to keep and the one he let go were one and the same #so. i choose to believe he never knew and he has to live with the knowledge that when the chips were down he chose #lloyd over a member of the family he swore to protect <3 #god dang it i did it again i promise i'm not trying to make the tags this long they just run away from me lol

[fromtheseventhhell]

can I join in on the Jamie slander? because the way fandom lives up jamie’s ass has always annoyed me so much. people literally have more empathy for him than they have for dany and Arya it’s ridiculous and transparently misogynistic. the way fandom always sees Jamie as the victim of evil cersei who just needs the love of a good woman (usually Brienne but I’ve even seen him shipped with sansa) like last time I checked cersei didn’t force him to push a CHILD out of a window he did that of his own free will. jamie is a horrible person and if grrm lets him live to the end of the series I will be genuinely pissed. the number of people who think Jamie is on a “redemption arc” is ridiculous. also they think he has a redemption arc but also believe he’s the valonqar so how does that work? Jamie is going to redeem himself, kill cersei through into partner violence, and then marry Brienne and live happily ever after??? 🤮🤢🤮

Jamie slander is always welcome over here 🙏🏾

I think this summarizes my issues with Jaime's character; it's not so much how he's written, I do think his character is interesting, but the way he's treated by fandom is insufferable. Male characters are always given more sympathy and grace than female characters and it's frustrating to see the difference in how he (and other male characters) is treated vs. Dany, Arya, Cat, Cersei, Brienne, Asha, Sansa, etc. Every bad thing he's ever done is twisted to become a result of Cersei "manipulating" him and she gets demonized, when she really deserves the sympathy that he gets. His "redemption arc" is a joke and I'm convinced the only reason people think he has one is because they've personally forgiven his actions 🥴

#ask #anon #anti jaime stans #they're so annoying and I hate when Brienne gets drawn into their nonsense and used to demonize Cersei #Him pushing Bran and searching for Arya with the intent of harming her is just...ignored by fandom #not even defended or justified with logic people just outright ignore that those are things he's done #never mind how he knows about Jeyne being sold off to the Boltons and does nothing to help her #or how he threatens Edmure in AFFC or his general behavior in that book #like this man hasn't fundamentally changed or atoned at all #he feels certain ways about things that have personally effected him but outside of that he's still an asshole #he didn't even leave Cersei cause he realized she was a bad person he was just angry she was having sex with other men like! #If she had been willing to give him what he wanted his story would likely have gone a different direction #I hope he gets caught by Lady Stoneheart and hanged tbh 🙏🏾 #I doubt he's ending the books alive anyways

[scoobydoodean]

I see this held up as major proof of Dean's badness, but couldn't it also be proof of Cas having faith Dean can get past anything without Cas having to change his behavior? The way it's structured the onus is on DEAN to work through it, not others to change or make amends. ---- CASTIEL: You know, Dean, he – he feels things more acutely than any human I've ever known. So it's possible he could work through this. One day, he may explode and let it all out and breathe deeply and move on.

I see what you mean in a general sense, and it's extremely possible that Cas is thinking about his own past fights with Dean and Dean forgiving him, and from the perspective of the critique you have in mind that you're refuting, I agree. But of course deancrit casgirls will forever insist that Cas has never in his life done anything harmful to Dean either accidentally or on purpose, so any time Dean might dare try to hold him accountable for anything, he's actually just making shit up and being toxic and controlling, so here Cas is just apologizing for his own abusive relationship. You can only get their take by being deliberately obtuse/disingenuous.

That said, the context of that line (from 15.13 "Destinty's Child") is Cas answering soulless Jack's question about whether Dean will eventually forgive him for murdering Mary.

CASTIEL: Hey, Jack. JACK: Cas, you know what's good about being dead? CASTIEL: Uh, as I recall, very little. JACK: Well, when you come back, you – you really get into all that life is. Hot, cold, sweet, spicy, funny, scary. CASTIEL: And are you? "Into it"? JACK: I want to be. But I don't... feel things the way I used to. Before I lost my... CASTIEL: Your soul. JACK: I used to feel things. In my bones. It was glorious, and sometimes unbearable. But I felt them. Now, I understand joy or sadness, but... I know those things aren't in me. I understand why Sam and Dean were angered by what happened to Mary... CASTIEL: By what you did to Mary. JACK: Yes. I see that I've caused them pain. And it's clear that things have changed. Especially with – with Dean. Will he ever forgive me? CASTIEL: You know, Dean, he – he feels things more acutely than any human I've ever known. So it's possible he could work through this. One day, he may explode and let it all out and breathe deeply and move on. JACK: How long will that take? CASTIEL: I don't know.

And yeah—I have seen people refer to Cas's little speech here as "condoning child abuse" and other bullshit. Because how DARE Dean not forgive soulless Jack for murdering his mother (something soulless Jack is unable to actually really acknowledge he did). I mean clearly any time someone murders your mom because she made them mad and threatened their sense of security by asking if they're okay and saying their concerning actions can’t stay a secret… That’s just natural understandable stuff! You need to forgive the person who murdered her instantly and if you don’t idk you’re kinda overreacting don’t you think? :/ I mean your mom probably deserved it kind of anyway for reading the room so wrong and talking about getting a person help. And I mean if you don't forgive the person who killed your mom or do anything trying to stop them from hurting more people you're really a child abuser... toward an adult... who murdered your mother in cold blood and is unable to even understand why it was wrong in any sense other than an intellectual one like he read it from a book... preferring to refer to it as "What happened to Mary" instead of acknowledge it as something he himself did because he was mad and felt threatened—which is what he circled back to in "Jack In The Box" too. It's only when Jack gets his soul back that he's able to actually feel true empathy, acknowledge his real actions and the gravity of them, and give an actual sincere apology. Because his soul is actually important—something this fandom refuses, by and large, to notice.

Anyway, this fandom's take on Mary's murder and soulless Jack vs. regular Jack is overwhelmingly a bag of wet third grader vomit and feces so what can one expect?

#mail #soulless jack killing mary is popularly regarded as an accident... but it's pretty transparent that it wasn't? #or rather it was on purpose but he regretted it the second after it happened. but that is still. Something he chose to do. Not an accident. #He saw her as a threat to his relationship with Sam and Dean and he acted. #This is indicated right before he kills her. He admits it outright also right before calling it an accident which unravels that whole idea. #It wasn’t pre-meditated but in that moment he wanted her to die. She was going to tell everyone there was something wrong with him. #And he did not want that. #It wasn't an accident and he can't handle his own culpability because it threatens his belief that he can make things be the way they were #before it happened. Which is why he killed her to begin with! He didn't want anyone to know/think anything was wrong with him! #And just like soulless Jack just wants everyone to forget about it and act like nothing happened and he's fine... #Many fans want Dean to forget about it. They want Dean to believe and say and feel and think that Mary did not matter. #And that being upset at her literal murder (even if it was an accident—which it was not) is bad and evil. #And Sam's great capacity for numbness (which we already saw in season 13) strengthen's their own lack of empathy for Dean #in a situation that in real life they would understand unless they're actual psychopaths. #It's only because Dean is a character in a narrative representing the need/capacity to be loved and accepted at all #that these demands that his thoughts and feelings bend to everyone else's emotional needs become so disturbingly intrusive #dont feed the stans after midnight #and cas is my best friend #hot girl cas

[stop-breaking-my-heart-dragonage]

So you know this party banter between Aveline and Carver?

Aveline: I don't like some of the people you've been associating with, Carver. Carver: Talk to my brother/sister. He/She's the one in charge.

If you're on the rivalry path with Aveline, she says:

Aveline: Who says I don't mean him/her too? This city's full of people who are dead set on ending badly. I don't want to see you end up the same way.

I just- Aveline, you- you're so- hhhhnnnngggggg

I always rival Aveline when I play a mage, and if you think Edgar Aristide Hawke, who practically raised Carver and Bethany after Malcolm died and Leandra became a distant mother in her grief, wouldn't stop dead in his tracks at Aveline heavily implying he's a bad influence on his brother and Carver shouldn't hang around him so much since apparently Ed's someone set on ending badly...? Absolutely not.

This is another case of me wishing Hawke had the option to jump in during party banter with different options, because Ed would've chewed Aveline out for that.

Oh, and then there's:

Carver: Would asking you to stop spying on me help in the least? Aveline: No.

Aveline...................stop it.

#da2 #dragon age 2 #carver hawke #aveline vallen #da2 hawke #edgar hawke #listen all of aveline and carver's party banter and their relationship and the fact that they're pretty much foils DRIVES ME CRAZY #in a good way but then i get party banter like this and i stop everything i'm doing just to scream #like ed and aveline are on fairly good terms in act 1 i mean the rivalry is there but it's not too bad it's more like they just butt heads #but after leandra's death the friendship just rots and deteriorates like by the end of act 3 ed is genuinely surprised aveline #didn't turn on him and side with the templars but i guess even aveline knows what's actually right #or maybe she just doesn't want to face ed in a fight sksksks hell ed AND carver in a fight so it's easier to side with him and the mages #but anyway aveline saying that when ed's in earshot is bold but also the fact that carver doesn't actually acknowledge it #like he doesn't agree or disagree he just changes the subject to be like 'can you stop spying on me PLEASE' #like he already has no privacy while living with gamlen and now he has no privacy when he's by himself because apparently aveline's spying #also i always max out carver's friendship so he and ed are on good terms they're the brothers hawke and carver loves him #even if he doesn't outright say it you know that's what he's really saying in the last straw #when he says that he's proud to call hawke brother/sister and that's gone unsaid for too long like............ screaming sobbing throwing u #like the carver and hawke dynamic on his friendship path is sooo good that i hear aveline say that and i'm immediately ready to throw hands #btw if you're on aveline's friendship path she says 'maybe but i know you get around' instead which...........gets around where aveline??? #aveline my list of beef with you grows with every playthrough i hate you but also i love you but also i want to throw you in the ocean #until you get your head out of your ass like this is a case of her being a FASCINATING character but as a person? while i'm playing ed? ugh #my lady warrior hawke adored aveline but ed is ready to fight her 24/7 sksksk

[chirpsythismorning]

🎨 🖼️ 🌈 🩹 🧍🏽💡 🔮⚡️☄️

Secret by Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark

previous ⏪ now playing ⏩ next back to playlist

#byler #stranger things #bizarre love triangle playlist #will byers #will's pov #i still stand by the fact that will did have hope at one point that mike could feel the same ie. 'i guess i did. i really did' #and despite mike's outbursts in s3 with 'it's not my fault you don't like girls' and 'that's bc she's my gf will' / 'we're friends x2' #i also think will's anger both times was still in large part over him being mad that mike is distancing himself AS HIS FRIEND #but it's in these moments in the aftermath that reality hits will and he starts to question himself and his own motives #s3 was a huge wake up call for him #it's caused him to distance himself from mike out of fear he's coming on too strong #in all honesty it's not will's fault mike is so insecure to the point where he could think that will doesn't care #bc to will his feelings are obvious to the point where he could never imagine mike would think he didn't care #'there are things that you know damn well' #in will's eyes despite this all being a secret that he now has no plan of revealing outright to mike #he simultaneously thinks mike knows and he's just subtly rejecting will through all of this vague language and by pushing him away #'and now you see. my secret is #is love.' #mike was entirely misunderstanding will for the past year and now he knows the truth is that will actually does care #*enter mike's most doubtful era over his and el's relationship yet* #'every day you're always there. you comfort me. you make it feel like it's worth my while. and then i look around and you're not there' #'and every day you say you care. and i'll beware.' #as much as will is willing to forgive mike for anything and everything #i think he's also at a point where he feels that he can't trust mike by sharing his true feelings anymore (not like he could back in s1-2) #hence why he goes from telling mike everything (at mike's request) to telling him little nothing (mike hasn't requested in a while...) #so it's this open secret now where he can't tell mike directly bc he's convinced mike can't possibly feel the same based on his actions #*enter unreliable narrator will byers feeding this inaccurate point of view to the ga* #4x03 #gif

[fordanoia]

I was thinking about stuff again and looking into the transcript and this exchange really does just pull some unspoken weight in it

Stan: How did things get so messed up between us? Ford: We used to be like Dipper and Mabel. The world's about to end and they still work together. How do they do it? Stan: Easy. They're kids. They don't know any better.

Of course we know Stan and Ford’s whole deal, but the whole sentiment here really just pulls a tragic note

There’s this unspoken acknowledgement that they both want to have a relationship, but (at this point) it’s treated as something that just... can’t happen

There’s a sentiment a lot of times that if you really love someone and they love you - that things turn out fine. Or at least, on the surface you’d think ‘well why would we ever stop being close?’ because logically, it doesn’t make sense

But in practice - it happens. It’s a falling out where you still both love each other, but now there’s this obstacle

really love the show for having this moment between them btw

And here in the show - Stan and Ford both see so much of how they used to be in Dipper and Mabel

Even here though where Ford directly draws that parallel though - he’s not connecting how they’re able to not squabble when everything’s going wrong - how they pull together instead of apart when the stakes turn high

and Stan saying it’s because they don’t know any better-

It just really paints a picture of how behind the pair of them are to Dipper and Mabel - especially after the Mabel-land episode

The Little Dipper episode is an instance where Dipper and Mabel have a similar squabble to the Stans’ petty hand-holding debacle, but afterwards they open up to one another and stuff is fine again.

-

The thing about this whole thing - it’s not that Dipper and Mabel never have moments of broken trust between each other or insecurities or anything like this - it’s that when this stuff happened they were eventually able to open up to one another and that’s how they got through it and came to work together without bickering

Because it’s not about blind or naive trust - it’s about that trust and putting in the effort to show some vulnerability and even talk about stuff instead of burying it down

Stan and Ford’s relationship acts as an obvious cautionary foil to Dipper and Mabel’s own, and it’s tragic because like with Dipper & Mabel you can see how Stan & Ford could also have possibly reconciled.

And the tragic thing in this set of lines is that, they really don’t understand and they still view it as this near-impossible thing for themselves.

#fordatalk #stan pines #ford pines #gravity falls #meta #long post #ford is outright going 'how do they do it' #meanwhile stan misunderstands their trust as them never having known broken trust before #or never having gone through anything only to be deeply hurt bc someone didn't haveyour back #and while on the one hand - yeah they haven't had the amount of real life circumstances of getting kicked out or etc #his misunderstanding comes in that he throws out their effort entirely #like they don't have to try as hard to be open bc they're kids and they don't know better #but it's still effort to be open and vulnerable with even people you already trust #because the rift that starts when you start questioning or having the insecurity and you don't say anything... #just because it's harder doesnt mean it's impossible and doesn't mean others arent doing it #(also you know. it Did get harder for dipper and mabel after the weridmageddon start) #ALSO brief aside #but i do also think that the stan twins had some extra obstacles for emotional connection/etc #with filbrick pines as their dad + growing up in the 50s/60s + the toxic masculinity on both sides

[didsomeonesayventus]

god do i think so much about how alear got the worst parent wombo combo in the god damn world where one of them established unreasonable expectations on themselves + made them a people pleasing sort, then other unfortunately deeply reinforced it

#katie rambles #fe17 #alear #fe17 spoilers #engage spoilers #spoilers #like not to get TOO into it but #sombron essentially laid the groundwork by forcing alear to please him to survive #and then while lumera didn't INTEND to die so soon #it really just. left too little time. for her to distinguish the difference between his responsibilities as divine dragon #versus setting himself up for unreasonable goals + failure #and not even outright failure but constantly feeling like he's not doing enough #or constantly feeling he can do better or needs to do something 'responsible' #and not the failure of being unable to do his task but the much more insidious dissatisfaction with everything he does #and like what is different between sombron's looming threat #and the world turning to him for answers and solace? #that one is better??? is it REALLY better???? #alear u have so much to fucking unpack and I know u will ur a good DD Monarch #but also please fucking find a therapist

[bibiana112]

There's nothing wrong with people having their dearest most specialest blorbo be Eric ztd it is unironically good for the ecosystem and I always love seeing the different perspectives from other fans but what I am here today to ask is why is no one like that about Mira. whatever happened to feminism.

#every categorically insane man in this series has their dedicated fans and every popular character also has a bunch of red flags so like #to be fair no one's too crazy about Lotus or Alice either hm like people either outright dislike them conceptually because of their designs #or you know just have an appreciation for them as characters but not quite focusing on them much at all #like me #and like are the tropes that make up her character problematic? yeah! that didn't stop y'all from liking Saito a whole lot #now he's better woven into the narrative of the game he's in but then my point's back to Eric lol #like it is just fucking ludicrous the amount of stuff in the whole Series not to mention the game Alone that she's responsible for #but it does feel disconnected (being responsible for the Kurashiki's parents deaths) #frustrating (being responsible for injecting Phi whith Rad-6) #and overall just kinda glossed over? (beheading Junpei and killing off D-Team that one time because she was in cahoots with Zero) #so like I get why people wouldn't like her she's a bad plot device but THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING #THAT'S NOT REALLY STOPPING ANYONE and it's not even like people are very vocal about hating her either #at most I've seen it be lumped in with some major complains about the game like as a whole #the way we find out so early she's a serial killer it's kinda shocking but not really? it ends up as just kinda ridiculous and underwhelming #imo that's the whole game but again even when it comes to people who Do Like this game #anyways free to reblog I Do wanna talk about this but I am absolutely Not putting this in the tag lmao could you imagine #like is the trope of having one big booba female character per game and for it to be a Defining Characteristic kinda not great? yeah #but also like shrug #we've let Uchikosh get away with worse

[mustangs-flames]

Why didn't Ruth get the promotion? Was it because she was a woman?

Yeah, that is definitely something to do with it - she is the only woman officer to hold a higher rank (Sergeant) in the MCPD and she had to fight tooth and nail to get that position and hold onto it.

#hail true body au #mustang answers! #htb ruth #misogyny was more outright and blatant back when she first became an officer and even in the 90s it hadn't improved much #thatcher didn't even apply for lieutenant either. they gave it to him and he felt pressured to accept. and thatcher is a people-pleaser- #through and through. often to his own detriment. #it's hard for ruth not to hate him even though he didn't know she'd applied for the position and was desperately hoping she'd get it #but he's her friend. and she cares about and loves him and knows he didn't do it to intentionally hurt her #but now he's become representative of the biased system she hates and it's so conflicting for her #and she can't bring herself to tell him especially with how miserable the guy looks in his new position #she doesn't want to add to the weight on his shoulders. bc she knows thatcher will blame himself for it

[trans-estinien]

#i know my bad for going on twitter #i dont have enough braincells to write a character essay about how all these hermes haters miss the point but. god #also this person is being wrong about how theyre hating him #CAUSE LIKE. #WHO CARES IF HE WAS ULTIMATELY THE ONE RESPONSIBLE. IT DIDN'T MATTER. SHIT WAS GOING TO BE FUCKED #REGARDLESS OF IF THE WOL WENT BACK IN TIME OR NOT. IT ALWAYS WOULD'VE ENDED THAT WAY #the only variable that wouldve changed that is if he created meteion or not #AND THE REASON THE QUESTION WAS FLAWED AND HIS EXPERIMENTS WERE FLAWED WAS BECAUSE HE DIDNT TRUST OTHER ANCIENTS #CAUSE THEY KEPT PUSHING ASIDE HIS CONCERNS ALL THE TIME. RIGHT. SO WHY WOULDNT THEY PUSH ASIDE OR OUTRIGHT REFUSE TO LET HIM AS HIS QUESTION #HE THOUGHT HE WAS ALONE!!!!!!! #AAAAAAAUGH. #'i cant stand that hes treated sympathetically' you are dense. and you probably have never hit a point in your life where you dont reach out #cause you feel like the only one who feels that way. #anyways anyone who hates him like this person is an idiot and yes im being mean