#if you're a TERF leave

[sarasade]

One of the most generally useful things to come out of Hbomberguy's plagiarism video and Todd in the Shadows' similar video on misinformation is how they bring transparency to the internet phenomenon of "I made up a guy to get mad at".

Seriously, I've seen people make up a lot of stupid shit on the internet over the years and it's often just a manipulative attempt to paint a group of marginalized people in a bad light.

That's the TL;DR version of this post. 

ANYWAY here is the long version

Those videos are mostly about James Somerton's plagiarism of other queer people's work. However I'd like to talk about that 20-30% of Somerton's original writing- and oh boy. It's mostly about complaining about White Straight Women and misgendering well-known trans creators such as Rebecca Sugar and calling Becky Albertalli a straight woman while it's pretty common knowledge that she was forced to out herself as bi because she received so much harassment over "being a cishet woman who appropriates LGBT+ stories".

One thing that irks me especially is how in his Killing Stalking and Gay Shipping videos Somerton brings up how straight women/ teen girl shippers exploit gay men for their personal sexual fantasies. This gets brought up several times in his videos.

Being all up and arms about Somerton being a "White Cis Gay Who Hates Women and Queer People tm" is not that useful because the kind of rhetoric he's using is extremely common in fandom and LGBT+ spaces on Tumblr, TikTok and Twitter. We really don't need to bring Somerton's identity to this since he is in no way an unique example.

It's hypocritical to make this about an individual person when I've seen A TON of posts, tweets and videos where queer people talk about these Sinister Straight Women who are supposedly out there fetishizing and exploiting queer men. It's pretty clear to me that this is just an excuse to shit on women and queer people for having any sexual interests. At worst these comments are spreading misinformation about BL, a form of media that has been excessively studied by both Asian feminists and Asian queer women.

This all sounds really familiar and I think it's good that people are calling it out as what it is: misogyny and transphobia. I'd also point out the potentially racist motives behind being this hypervigilant about Asian media.

People can absolutely be misogynist regardless of gender or orientation. I really don't know why we need to create some kind of made up enemy to get mad at. I actually think it's almost sinister how "anti-fujoshi" people call Slash shippers and fujoshi misogynists or claim that they have internalised misogyny while being dismissive about women's interests and creative pursuits under Japanese obscenity laws, China's censorship, book bans in American schools and various other disadvances that are part of being a queer and/or female creator.

I think we shouldn't be naive about the bad faith actors who want to turn queer people against each other. For example Fujoshi.info mentions anti-gender (TERF, GC etc) movement using this kind of rhetoric as well.

Anyway if you want to read more:

- about the false info around BL fandom fujoshi.info

-There is the scholar Thomas Baudinette who studies gay media in Japan. Here is a podcast with him and the scholar Khursten Santos

-James Welker is a BL scholar as well. Here is a podcast interview about the new international BL article collection he edited.

-I've already talked about this Youtube channel by KrisPNatz and his great Killing Stalking video that actually engages with the themes of the manhwa

- There is also HR Coleman's thesis DO NOT FEED THE FETISHIZERS: BOYS LOVE FANS RESISTANCE AND CHALLENGE OF PERCEIVED REPUTATION where she interviews 36 BL fans and actually breaks down why fetishization has become such a huge talking point in the fandom discourse. Spoilers, it's mostly about young queer people and women being worried that they will get judged and pathologized for their interest in anything sexual.

-Great podcast about Danmei and censorship with Liang Ge

#Also I don't mean that you can always tell if someone is a transphobe or a TERF based on a couple of things they have said. #My point is that sometimes ok people can have very regressive ideas too. #This is not a call out post about how we should go around accusing anti-fujoshi people #todd in the shadows #hbomberguy #sarasade text #even I've got those “Fandom is mostly straight women fetishizing gay men” comments once and it begins to sound kind of passive-aggressive #when you're a bi woman. Lot of fandom stats at AO3 show that fandoms are montly bi women. who are these people calling straight exactly hmm #also straight women are completely ok leave them alone. I know I know Yes I'm so brave for saying this #cw: transphobia

[femmespoiled]

Terf completely lost its meaning when it started being used against trans people because you don't like them or what they said. Please, remove yourself from my space if that's you.

#btexts #some of yall are so annoying #the defenders of political lesbianism want to tell me something about terfs? babygirl.take a look in the mirror. you're talking to yourself #just uh leave me alone thanks 🩷

[playitagainmyjohnny]

happy pride 🏳️‍🌈

#far cry #far cry 5 #fc5 #hope county #virtual photography #a lot has happened in the past year wrt to lgbtq+ rights and it's been ... rough to say the least #so i feel a little more somber and a little more angry this time around than i did last year #anyway this is a queer friendly place so if that bothers you please leave #if you're a terf a transphobe a homophobe : please leave #i'm queer and i don't want you here and if i see you interacting with my blog or my posts i will block you #to everyone else happy pride #i hope you're keeping safe and healthy and doing okay #i love you all #🖤🖤🖤 #guitar posting #jg

[levil0vesyou]

Literally what are you still doing here!!! What do you want!!! Just unfollow me!!! What, you didn't notice you're the one mutual I deliberately didn't refollow with the new main??

What do I have to do to get your terf ass to finally fuck off

#for my other followers: yes this is about a follower but if you're unsure then it isn't you. the person this is about knows 100% it's her #or at least i fucking hope so #'i don't follow fascists' girl you are the fascist #i know i promised you we'd stay friends. but i didn't realise you'd join a hate movement dedicated to eradicating my existence #just leave!! it's been years!!! we haven't even talked to each other in ages!!!! #btw. this is me showing you the door nicely. if you don't unfollow me i might softblock you. and prolly hardblock on the old account tbh #just leave girl. what are you still doing here. have i not made my blog inhospitable enough to the likes of you? #ofc it hurts to cut someone out you've known for like a decade and were very close with. why do you think i've tolerated you here this long #but like. i'm at my limit girl. i should've done this years ago and didn't. pls just leave. just leave!! why are you still here!!! LEAVE!!! #personal #cw terf mention #mine #i do not want you here. i've already let you stay longer than was good for me. fuck off

[onesaltysir]

Hi yes I am a HUGE antinatalist however I'm REALLY going to need the insane side of tumblr to stop interacting with my posts please 😐 Terfs, radfems, so called pro life people, evangelicals, etc this means you thanks. I am antinatalist for my own reasons and to be associated with their lot in any way feels like a punch to the gut.

This is just a reminder: No I am not and will never be part of their group. To any of the bigots in said group, stop interacting with my posts for gods sake I want nothing to do with you or your rancid views.

My hands are tired from blocking so many blogs before typing this up. Bigots, leave me alone 🖕

#antinatalism #proud antinatalist #childfree #childfree by choice #i hate kids #actually audhd #autism #eat the rich #fuck them kids #i hate breeders #why yes i do hunt bigots for sport #bigots leave me alone challenge #If you're pro life I'm sorry you were never taught basic biology #Trans rights #If I see one more terf in my notes I'll kill god

[liu-anhuaming]

every day i wake up and open twitter to find it still functioning i am elated

we are currently balls deep in a multi-day discourse about whether bringing your new neighbors food without asking is ableist/violates consent. people are writing novel-length threads imagining scenarios that didn’t actually happen. someone compared bringing your neighbors food to grabbing someone’s wheelchair and moving it without asking (the person who made this comment is a landlord). washington post has published an article about it. this is twitter in peak form

(for context: someone noticed her new neighbors were a group of college-aged boys whose trash was overflowing with pizza boxes, so she decided she’d just give them some homemade chili. the boys accepted it with no issue. in fact, when she went to their door to give them the chili they told her they were just about to order food)

#also a bunch of transphobes just assumed op was trans and started harassing her #someone said it's bc they dug up some of her old tweets supporting trans people #and according to terfs supporting trans people means you're also trans??? #did u know that if someone gives u food u don't want/like you can just not eat it? #or even *gasp* say 'no thank u'?? #twitter is crawling with a bunch of antisocial freaks and i'm never leaving

[andthebeanstalk]

Just heard the news about WB telling Misha Collins to pretend he's bisexual.

I mean there's token representation and then there's "okay no homos onscreen but maybe if we make the actor queer." 🤣🤣🤣

#bishagate #misha collins #good GODS #original #I mean there's been given crumbs and then there's being given a picture of some crumbs XD #holy shit #destiel as a concept drives me insane bc the way it was written and handled doesn't even make sense by the rules of capitalism! #you're supposed to excuse your homophobia by saying that queer characters would lower your profits!!! #it! doesn't! make! sense! to exclude queer characters at the expense of #the biggest profit opp I've ever seen any company leave on the table! #I know homophobia isn't logical but it was and is just cartoonishly bad business sense it drives me crazy #how I wish I could go on national television and personally call this out. presumably after I cover other more important topics but #I just cannot fucking fathom this one it doesn't make any sense men are so so stupid #homophobes are the stupidest people on earth besides terfs

[lettucedloophole]

it's... interesting how perhaps a vast majority of tirfs use the term "trans-inclusive radical feminism" as a way to signal "i don't hate trans women! (at least not as much as terfs do)" rather than radical feminism which incorporates transmisogyny & transfeminist perspective into its theory & practice.

#stop using it like that!! 🙃 #like just imagine (im a woc so no seething lol) when woc are included like a little 'well i tolerate you i guess' add-on to feminism #much like trans women are esp in tirf spaces. we call that white feminism! similarly this is cis-centric feminism lol #don't use words that Mean Things as a card to signal you're not transmisogynistic when you clearly are lol #lots of passive aggressive lols in this one #trans inclusive radfem #trans inclusive radical feminism #tirf #radical feminism #ex-terf #ive seen tarf proposed as an alternative as in trans-affirmative radical feminism but it's really not about the names... #it's about this idea that feminism's goals can be complete without the inclusion of trans women #(it can't) #and that even if cis women could achieve freedom without trans women... #it's clearly unethical to leave a marginalized group of women behind #transmisogyny #transphobia #misogyny

[fox-mulder-gets-pegged]

Oh No™ the terfs are big mad bc of my pinned post and keep replying to it and reblogging it with upset tags as if I'm gonna do anything except just block them and move on.

#🙄 #pay rent or leave #'uwa you're wishing violence on me for being a terf' yes? and? ill also wish bankruptcy and unemployment on you #idiots who harass trans people are no friend of mine

[nonbinarymoon]

Youtube is so shitty. They keep making my transmasc nonbinary ass feel dysphoric as hell by showing me ads geared towards cis women, like I literally had a dior and fucking eyeliner ads back to back two minutes ago. And the worst part is youtube doesn't even let you block their ads anymore the only option that shows up for me for anything I see now is 'why this ad?' as far as I know. Hadn't seen 'stop seeing this ad' in a couple weeks now.

#tw vent #tw transphobia #dysphoria mention #tw swearing #and in case anyones going to comment something telling me to go get an ad blocker #i cant afford it and the stupid free apps never work #how many times do I have to say that I'm not a woman #I am not a woman #that shouldnt be a hard concept to grasp #also to all you radfems who are about to call toxic masculinity or misogyny on me having my gender dysphoric moment #gtfo with that bullshit you're so helpful #gender dysphoria ≠ misogyny and you know it so go worry about actual discrimination towards women instead #im pretty sure all the actual feminists out there really appreciate you calling a trans person misogynistic for something they cant control #you performative ass #and i can call you performative bc im afab and have experienced misogyny before I came out as trans so shut up and is still vulnerable #also terfs in general you guys can just leave no one needs you here #queer #lgbtq #lgbtqia #trans #feminist #gender dysphoria #activism #transgender #transmasc #non binary #trans rights #afab #afab dysphoria #queer rights

[snekdood]

I think the reason i used to feel like i had to say "i hate women" is so the type of person who only values "Non Men" will stop with the non verbal message of "its okay if you want to be a woman" Towards me while also entirely ignoring and ostracizing me when i embrace being the man i am. Like it genuinely feels like theres even queer ppl who do this to me, where they dont outright say that they hate that im a man but ignore every time i embrace or feel pride or happiness about being a man or manhood and then only ever give me attention when i act Enough like a woman for them. Like ik some of yall just want me to "give up" on being a man and just be a woman bc of all the fucking terfy anti man shit that floats about like a fart on this damn site.

#having a hard time conveying my thoughts here but if you know you know. #i will never succumb to your passive aggressive peer pressure by ignoring who i am in favor of only paying attention to me when i act the #way you fuckin want me to. #and ik theres someone maybe not admitting to themselvesbtheyre subconsciously thinking 'but it would be fine if you're non binary too!!' #no. it wouldnt. because the way you want me to change is in a way i read as entieely fem. it doesnt matter if you replace 'be a woman' with #'be non binary' here bc the entire message is 'stop being yourself and acting the way you do' like fuck off. #if you're someone whos somehow picked up the idea that you need to 'free people from the idea they have to be men' or 'the idea that #masculinity exists' leave me alone forever and ever. you're literally just going to pressure me out of iding as a dude. go away. #also you're not somehow more progressive for believing that shit. in fact i think it makes you very not progressive and like. #you're a third wave terf or some shit shsjjska

[thatwitchrevan]

I think 'men AND terfs dni' is a weird thing to say actually. Idk.

#'im definitely pro trans and definitely not a gender essentialist but i still want men to leave me alone always' #??? miss what #(this was just a random person i don't follow and checked to see if they were a terf bf reblogging) #and ig lucky for them i did check cause otherwise I'd be breaking their 'dni' just by being a man #which is like part of the problem yknow? you feel?? #men and women aren't opposites and you don't get to treat them like they are while saying you're not a terf #and people can have boundaries but saying men cant interact w you online has a lot of. implications.

[emiliosandozsequence]

man i wish terfs were still bold enough to put it in their profile. then i wouldn't accidentally follow them lmao

#if you're a terf and you're following me: leave <3 #or better yet #tell me who you are so i can block you #emilio.txt

[dogin8]

Just in case I have not made it abundantly clear by tagging "TERFs die" on all of my posts that mention feminism, I DO NOT WANT TO FUCKING INTERACT WITH TERFs. LITERALLY I DO NOT LIKE YOU, I DO NOT WANT TO HEAR YOUR SHIT

#TERFs die #I actually don't want to talk to you. The propaganda you're going to try convince me of is something that I #FUNDAMENTALLY disagree with. Neither of us gain anything from me talking to you #leave me the fuck alone #I wholeheartedly support feminism. The patriarchy is fucking awful and women are hugely oppressed still and fighting for women is really #important. But you're a fucking transphobe. I don't like you. You're awful. Leave me alone #discussion of transphobia #discussion of terfs

[gay-otlc]

Me: I think TERFs are wrong to complain about gender neutral medical terminology.

Tumblr dot com, apparently: So you hate trans people? You hate trans people like the TERF? Oh, jail for Shai! Jail for Shai for One Thousand Years!!

#like. i'm arguing against terfs we're on the same side #you don't need to attack me just because certain words make you personally uncomfortable #going after anyone who disagrees with terfs will not make more people disagree with terfs. in case you didn't know #anyway anon if you're still out there. go fuck yourself and leave me alone #vaguepost #terf tw

[brothersonahotelbed]

that's why i don't really have a dni list. i'm not here to engage in discourse, i'm not here debate over people's identities when they're really not hurting anyone by choosing certain labels and just living their life. i come on tumblr to have fun and reblog cool photos and scream in the tags when my mutuals make art . i come on here to get away from my real life because it fucking sucks sometimes and i just want to curate a little corner of the internet for me to blow off some steam . i don't want discourse, i don't want controversy, i just want to make stupid posts and yell about mcr

#okay sorry just had a little moment here #i'm not about to call out people or anything i'm just going to block #please . can we just let people live #when your identity/label is not causing any harm or #you're not invalidating anyone then. can we just let people identify the way they want? #we have much much bigger problems in our community/in the world that we should be focusing on instead of #cishet ace people are not queer/are not lgbt like just shut up #or the whole thing about loveless aros #i just want people to feel safe here #**this does not go for lgbtphobes / terfs/ transmeds/ etc etc. you are the human embodiment of garbage please don't come near here*** #probably going to delete this but if you read it please leave a like #loquitur