#im a foolish apologist now!!!

[petrichormore]

(Another ramble incoming - this one I’ve been sitting on for a bit. But it’s about Bebou & the French. And the jail incident. And also bla bla bla this is about the characters)

I might be wrong but I really think that if some of the french agree with q!bbh about the government being bad/anarchy being good thing… it’s not because Bad managed to convince them that q!forever is some horrible dictator with his wily demon cunning and manipulative silvertongue or something. it’s because. they just. agree with his views and sympathize with him. Like they just sometimes think Bad has a point, is the thing. Now I know Bad likes to spread misinformation but he rarely does it in a way that can really be taken seriously, or have any big effect (with a few… exceptions).

Bad likes to jokingly blame Forever for like anything and everything but if anyone actually presses him about it (I’m pretty sure pierre, antoine, and etoiles all have to varying degrees) he’s pretty quick to emphasize that he trusts Forever’s judgment and moral compass.

Or he used to. Until he got pushed into a cage trap. It’s clear he lost a significant amount of trust in Forever and everyone else who was involved with that. And he suspected Forever (or Cellbit) of framing him, but I’d say that’s relatively reasonable considering, from his perspective, they jumped to a conclusion with no proof. He doesn’t understand why they wouldn’t hear him out, so he’s looking for a reason. And he’s telling other people not because he’s trying to spread misinfo but because that’s just what he believes and usually, he’s telling people because they’re asking him.

Anyway, Pierre didn’t really steal the waystones because he automatically believed everything Bad said about Forever being a dictator immediately and with no hesitation. If he accepted or encouraged what Bad said, it’s because he probably already agreed to some extent. Pierre, Antoine, Etoiles - they’re smarter than blindly accepting the truth from badboyhalo the Chronic Gossiper. And at least 2/3rds of them are also convinced that Bad and Forever are dating - so they’re not taking what Bad says about Forever that seriously.

If you ask me: Pierre did it because he was probably already more politically aligned with Bad’s anarchist ideals than he ever was with Forever’s and, most importantly, because he witnessed Bad get jailed unfairly with his OWN. TWO. EYEBALLS. LIKE HE SAW THAT. HE WAS THERE.

How did he know Bad was framed? He TALKED TO HIM. He went to his base and had a conversation with him and of the two (count it with me - TWO) people that actually heard Bad out that day (Foolish and Pierre) both of them came out of the conversation believing he wasn’t the culprit. Wouldn’t you know it - communication solved that conflict pretty fast, but Bad didn’t get a chance to communicate to Forever or anyone else because they almost immediately dogpiled him. And Pierre saw that happen.

And I’m pretty sure he also saw Forever hold a vote and then accept that Bad was guilty of a crime. A crime. That isn’t illegal. That he didn’t even do in the first place.

So. I’m sure you can see why Pierre might feel the urge to defend Bad - maybe even from Forever specifically, and of his own volition. Although I can’t say stealing all the waystones and rearranging them into a pentagram above Forever’s house was a particularly reliable method of doing so, nor can I say Bad really needed the protection - Forever had no malicious intent and was fully trying to be fair. (can you tell im a q!forever apologist? because if you can’t: he did nothing wrong. Maybe one day I will make a giant post about how much of a q!forever apologist i am).

Am I making sense. At all. It’s 2am. And I’m getting the sensation that I’m missing something with this one but I’m too tired to correct it so I’ll look at it later.

#and also: Cellbit apologizing almost instantly after realizing he fucked up has had #the accidental side effect #of making Bad think Forever COULD have apologized to him around the same time but didn’t purposely which isn’t true but #god knows Bad is never getting any more apologies NOW with everything else happening #and THAT has the side effect of Bad still not speaking well of Forever around Pierre #which to Pierre probably sounds first and foremost like a domestic dispute and secondly like the jail incident is still unresolved #which. it is still unresolved. but you know what I mean #AM I MAKING ANY SENSE HERE????? #if anyone mains aypierre or etoiles or antoine please tell me if I fucked anything up #qsmp #qsmp character analysis #qsmp badboyhalo #qsmp aypierre

[manglechan1204]

Sssssoooooo it’s been a while !

I’ve finished the dream smp episode’s playlist (282/282) annnddd I also finished the dream smp plot playlist  (419/419)

So this is my final update on my thought on the characters ! ( Imma try keep it short…)

c!Tommy : I finally succombed to the tommyinnit charm after his exile 😩 and his death … and wilbur abondonning him ….+the kid’s been through way too much too to keep disliking him + he did mature in someway, it was really nice to see that + I still want to punch him sometime tho + and that him and eryn a childhood friends is so cute

c!Tubbo : I dont know guys + Tubbo has been really confusing to me the whoollee time xD + but I like him ( and pity him..) + It did go throouughht a looottt + I love that he has a child + I dont like that he have to take care of him alone now !;( + I get it that he is still mourning ranboo and is traumatised with what happenned to micheal but  I dont know killing aimsey was really uncool

c!Dream : Everytime he opens his mouth im like « why are you lying »+ I kinda had pity for him with the whole torture arc + but the dude seemed really fine as soon has it was out u know + fuck him for manipulating everyone

c!Sapnap : Like how he goes fully against dream for the greater good even tho they were best friends + finally has a good purpose with defending kinoko kingdom, thats cool + poor man trying to bring peace in his love life

c!George : Stayy assleeppp + It might be because I’ve only watched summarized version of what happened + but everytime this man is awake is to whether destroy stuff or kill people which is tiring and annoying after a while

c!Ponk : Pooorr theeemmm dkjngdkgd + I still can’t believe c!Sam took his fucking arm like ??? + really didn’t deserve anything happening to her + is really sweet + and lost:(

c!Foolish : Love Him + love his lore + kinda like how he joins las nevadas

without being dependent on it + his mental breakdown and his reconsideration was super interesting to see  + my man just want to try doing his part + and build awesome stuff !

c!Punz : I find it cool when he really was a mercenary and switched for the side who payed more + now he is a c!dream apologist

c!Purpled : I would have said he didn’t do anything wrong if he attacked anyone beside c!charlie + like after what quackity did, the rest of his action were just fair

c!Wilbur : man got resurected + and I still dont know if he was genuine with all his apologies or not. + still dont understand how some people think he changed + tommy deserved better idc + funny how he was flabbergasted people were not pardonning him after just an apology + how does utah fit in the lore…. ??????????

c!ghosbur: I finally see the baby boi material + the final animatic where he reunite with friend really got me  

c!Fundy : What is this whole nightmare thing ? + his reunion with wilbur was touching and heartbreaking + man can’t get lower

c!Eret : Love how they really try to make up for their past mistakes even thought it was so long ago + the musuem is an awesome idea + love how he doesn’t have any of the «  dream’s not that bad » bullshit

c!Quackity : Oh my fucking god + I cant say I like what he’ve become + but it’s super interesting to watch + his descent into hell is depressing but logic + his relation with c!charlie was super touching :(

c!Nikki : Her hatred for c.tommy was scary. + I’m glad she calmed down after + hope she finded some peace in the syndicate + Really connected with the fact that at first she joined the syndicate to belong

c!Philza : Like how he become wiser + and gives good advices to wilbur and tommy + we see he does care about them + MUMZA ?! She is so cool !

c!Karl : The dilemma he is put into is so horrible AND interesting ( the whole tale of the smp deal is breathtaking anyway ) + I like how he deeply care about people without being totally selfless

c!Skeppy : omg omg + bruh the whole egg deal ? I didn’t recovered from that + his whole lore is so tragic + the fact that he accepted to sacrifice everyone to keep c !bbh safe +  what an asshole but at the same time IT’S SO TOUCHING AT THE SAME TIME

c!Badboyhalo : My beloved + I love this character, just so sweet but also has no limit when it comes to his friends + every **terrible** things he did was to be with his friends ( aka skeppy ) + and the whole egglore ?! ( one of my favorite btw ! ) + both of them went down the bad past just to be with each and it’s JUST IM SO WEAK FOR SOULMATE STUFF + Also i’m crying about the fact that he is a father figure, that him and skep raised c !sapnap + and now there is c !eryn omg dmgdm

c!Ranboo : the way he saw life was super interesting + really depressing (in a good way) how this character was always so miserable + like the guy say they were relieved to be dead, no more stress, no more lies … + also im dying for hybrid stuff and cc!ranboo is the one who gived us the more hybrid canon stuff + also loves that he is a ddaaddd

c!Technoblade : I love him I love him + he is the embodiment of «  he is technically a bad guy but he deeply care about his friends so it’s okay ! » + he cares so much + he was so ready to defend tommy against the whole world and this bitch betray him  😒 … + the funiest character without breaking the immersion + also very interesting sens of ethics

c!Captainpuffy : PUFFY PUFFY PUFFY my beloved 2 + her whole backstory is so mysterious I want to know more about the pirate stuff ! + also tragic story like she had been fucked up over and over by her friends to end up at the egg sides on hey bd;- ; + AND EACH TIME SHE forgave THEM LIKE + she was such a pure soul that wanted to do good ( especially like how she was one of the few that see how fucked up what happened to tommy AS A KID was and she really tried to help him ) + until it was too much and she was too tired of everything to try anymore ...

c!Awesamedude : Listen guy I’m a c!awesamedude apologist. I really love him. Okay he did some super fucked up stuff but he is not evil.Cause you can see how much he cared about his friends at the beginning, so stressed about them going near the egg and everything + but obviously the stress of being the only one responsible of the captivity of the most dangerous criminal got to him really bad ( obviously it excused nothing of what he done ) + everyone blaming him for everything dream related afterward like it is normal and logical to ask only one man to be everywhere and think about everything…+ and even at this point he was really affected by tommy’s death + ( beside that I can’t believe he has the audacity to be this mean to c!ponk after what he did to him… )

c!Boomer : has potentiel ! I want to know mmoorreee

c!Aimsey : I love the fact that he wants to be non-violent no matter what happen, I deeply respect that in this fucking smp + her backstory is sadddd ;(

c!Seapeekay : same as aimsey , peaceful man just want to be there for his friends

c!Michealmcchill : SO MUCH POTENTIAL WITH THE « FIND SERENITY » THING  + love his musics

c!Charlie : I love hhiimmmm, he is so sweet and innocent + But at the same time he litteraly has seen everything and is older than this whole place + this contrast is always a win + also hybrid sttuuffff + the way he turned against quackity was so perfect and gave me goosebump + can’t wait to see what happen for him ? Will he leave Las nevedas ?

c!Eryn : canon 👏 hybrid 👏 stuff + he is really endearing with how he saw bad and was like that’s dad material + was childhood friends with tommy🥺 + tragic backstory + really interesting how he is drawn to death

c!Hannahrose : In love with the fact that she is a sort of nymph / fairies and is directly connected to nature and especially roses like she put so much details about that + her whole arc with the eggs was so cool and creepy + can’t believe she litteraly got mutilated by c!boomer and people ( sam ) were like « isokaayyy chill dude » like ???

#At this point it's more for me than anything #cause I dont know who's gonna read that #dream smp #dream smp talk

[ao3feed-crimeboys]

Theseus Craft will die at the end.

by Leaf_ers

Tommy didn’t blink for a second, stood still and silent. Yet, he could still feel Wilbur’s hand on his cheek. The pain sizzled on his face as if it was inflamed. He could feel something. Rage. All these years he stood silent, and this single moment ignited something inside. He had enough. Of him. Of his family. Of everything.

or

Tommy is just a child who is stuck behind these castle walls.

or Tommy had been forced to be a royal ever since he was a child to replace the missing prince. Now the prince has come back, what will happen to him now?

Words: 1740, Chapters: 1/1, Language: English

Fandoms: Dream SMP

Rating: General Audiences

Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence

Categories: Gen

Characters: TommyInnit (Video Blogging RPF), Grayson | Purpled (Video Blogging RPF), Technoblade (Video Blogging RPF), Toby Smith | Tubbo, Ranboo (Video Blogging RPF), Wilbur Soot, Phil Watson | Philza, Clay | Dream (Video Blogging RPF), Sapnap (Video Blogging RPF), Shroud the Spider (Dream SMP), Michael the Piglin (Dream SMP), Jschlatt (Video Blogging RPF), Alexis | Quackity, Karl Jacobs, Kristin Rosales Watson, GeorgeNotFound (Video Blogging RPF), Noah Brown | Foolish Gamers, Original Characters

Relationships: Technoblade & TommyInnit (Video Blogging RPF), Ranboo & Kristin Rosales & Toby Smith | Tubbo & Wilbur Soot & Technoblade & TommyInnit & Phil Watson, TommyInnit & Phil Watson (Video Blogging RPF), Dream SMP Ensemble & TommyInnit, Wilbur Soot & Technoblade & TommyInnit & Phil Watson, Wilbur Soot & TommyInnit, Wilbur Soot & Technoblade, Wilbur Soot & Phil Watson, Wilbur Soot & TommyInnit & Phil Watson, Toby Smith | Tubbo & Wilbur Soot & Technoblade & TommyInnit & Phil Watson, Jschlatt & Wilbur Soot, not that much - Relationship, Ranboo & Toby Smith | Tubbo, Grayson | Purpled & TommyInnit (Video Blogging RPF), Michael the Piglin & Shroud the Spider (Dream SMP), Grayson | Purpled (VBRPF) & Shroud the Spider (Dream SMP) & TommyInnit (VBRPF), ill update as i go - Relationship

Additional Tags: Angst, So much angst, im evil, Alternate Universe - Royalty, TommyInnit-centric (Video Blogging RPF), only tommyinnit centric, Sleepy Bois Inc as Family, Sleepy Bois Inc Angst, Author Is Sleep Deprived, Author is a TommyInnit Apologist (Video Blogging RPF), TommyInnit Needs a Hug (Video Blogging RPF), TommyInnit is Not Okay (Video Blogging RPF), TommyInnit is So Done (Video Blogging RPF), Fluff, Maybe - Freeform, Traumatized TommyInnit (Video Blogging RPF), TommyInnit Angst (Video Blogging RPF), Wilbur Soot and Technoblade and TommyInnit are Siblings, Bad Parent Phil Watson (Video Blogging RPF), Bad Sibling Wilbur Soot, Bad Sibling Technoblade (Video Blogging RPF), Child Neglect, Neglect, Abuse, The royals are all bad with feelings, Sad TommyInnit (Video Blogging RPF)

#ao3feed #wilbur soot #tommyinnit #crimeboys #crime boys #crimebois #crime bois #mcyt #This is an automated process #If you see any fic that breaks boundaries #or the fic is yours and you don't want it shared send an ask #it will be looked at and removed if need be

[enderwalk]

ok wait i do have a ranboo opinion this doesnt even have to be for the meme i just wanna gush and its that i genuinely want to see how he changes once he gets all of his memories back, and if that makes him like...... not a coward. give me a ranboo who isnt afraid to be a bitch, i mean the council (aka cc!ranboo) literally handed his character a giant fucking axe and said 'you need to stop being a pussy go stand up for what you believe in' and i want SO BAD for full-memories-ranboo to act differently from the ranboo we know right now

GRABBING YOU AND SHAKING YOU SO HARD. SO GET THIS. everyone says that enderwalk is the "dissociative" sleepwalking state, where ranboo is either more enderman or just like ,, violent? but here's the thing. we've seen him enderwalk, in a lore stream, where he gets foolish to sign a contract for him. he gets a god of life and death to do his bidding. ranboo, outside of his enderwalk, would never attempt anything like that. in his enderwalk state he seems to have more of his memories, considering he has entire memory books written in ender. the more i learn about the enderwalk state, the more i think that ranboo, as we see him, is the dissociative state.

i know cc!ranboo said that with the way he's planned out his character's story, he's going to give us no reason to be an apologist. but im fucking ready for c!ranboo to snap. i don't know what the breaking point will be, but he said that shit's going to get scary. i think that one day, ranboo's going to go into enderwalk and not come back out. i want to see ranboo not only not be afraid to be a bitch, and not be afraid to be more obvious about picking sides, i want him to snap.

#vwoops #ask #met 🦌 #ive infodumped abt the enderwalk to damien a LOT i just . holy shit it's so interesting #meta

[especdreamy]

im an apologist for no one on the dsmp except for c!bbh. c!bbh the beloved and the one and only (/hj)

I Never really watched a lot of c!BBH lore. I was a casual enjoyer (since my close friend IS a c!BBH enjoyer) and man. Man. This stream really helped to give an insight onto his character. I do not know a lot of what he did BEFORE the Eggpire stuff (Only watched like...recaps on that...I joined the fandom near the end of the Eggpire arc) but it's interesting to see how different he is from then vs now.

Like under the influence of the Egg he was willing to spill blood if it was with the goal of making the Egg more powerful. He didn't care about others (Except c!Skeppy, he was the only person that made him hesitate from the influence of the Egg) he just cared abt the Egg.

We watched how pleased he was when c!Foolish was sacrificed on the banquet, how he wanted to murder everyone in there.

But this stream. Damn. He cared about c!Ranboo! Someone he wasn't even close to! He was horrified and conflicted and he felt sick about watching it happen! He cared about the dog, he cared about c!Dream even! Despite somewhat knowing how horrible he was. He still felt empathy because of how he was tortured. And that gives so much to think about!! Fuck! I love this guy I'm gonna protect him with my life!!

HE'S THE FIRST FUCKING PERSON TO GO "HEY, WASNT SAM KILLING RANBOO A BIT MESSED UP?" HE WAS THE FIRST GUY TO QUESTION C!SAM ABOUT HIS ACTIONS AND WHAT THE HELL HE WAS DOING W/ THE PRISONERS AND I'M SOBBING!!

#Dreamy answers #Anonymous

[mc-slowwalker]

hahahahha that’s funny lol (saying that the author of the common enemy fics is c!dream) but yeah common enemy definitely won’t fix the issues cause it’s the cycle of violence that they have to break and that definitely will not be fixed easily

woooo syndicate supremacy (I’ve finally learned how to spell syndicate correctly through our conversation lol) they’re definitely doing better than other people on the server and I love that for them! oh yeah either or both c!tommy and c!dream definitely need to reflect on the fact that they’re both make eachother worse. I absolutely loved how that fic handled that aspect of it because closure and freedom is exactly what I want for c!dream and c!tommy more than anything. yeah exactly!! which is why I don’t like the idea of c!dream dying either cause it just leaves everything unresolved. I doubt that’ll happen in canon tho

yea!! can’t wait for the angst! cc!wilbur just posted on reddit about ghostbur so we’ve already got some more of it 😔✌️which also reminds me that I’m sooo interested to see how c!dream is like once he’s out of prison because so much of the fandom believes different thing and there’s no way that he’s gonna be better or changed cause he’s had no opportunity to plus he’s been through terrible torture for so long and I can’t wait to see the effect of that. which also reminds me that I’ve seen lately that a lot of the fandom seems to think that c!dream was put in the prison as a punishment when it was less about that and more about the fact that he could revive people and that his last canon life would have been taken if not for that fact. a lot of the fandom says he deserves the prison but not the torture as a punishment but that’s not why he was put in the prison and if that was the case literally every other character would deserve the same punishment as well as they’re all characters that have done bad things. I feel like my typing is just getting more and more rambly and less and less well punctuated lol sorry

oh yeah those fandom rules definitely make sense. especially as someone who has been in online fandom spaces for like a long time and has seen all the tumblr discourse lol. like yeah those rules were actually not bad and don’t send death threats or harass people shouldn’t have to be said as much as it is in mcyttwt. I really do wish that the young people in this fandom realise that they’re allowed to just have fun and do what they like in fandom

I think that taking into account the fact that a character is a minor is definitely important I just disagree with the way that a lot of people use it as such a final argument that doesn’t leave room for discussion. yeah I’m the same like when I was younger I used to think I was so grown up but like I’m 18 now and I realise that that’s still so young even though at 18 I’m an adult. basically like the “child” argument is not so black and white either like instead of a defence I think it’s more something that should be taken into account when discussing a characters actions and I definitely agree with the characters you’ve added as people who that can be extended to. and yeah like in real life the minors would face soo many more consequences it’s kind of funny like everyone would but with it being such a prominent topic of discussion it’s funnier applying real life rules to dsmp is often so funny. I agree c!tommy should 100% pay taxes that would be hilarious

ooh yeah the three life system interesting cause at first glance you’d think it makes them worth less but evidently not and I do wonder how the characters see it. like you said with c!foolish and c!puffy it was traumatic to take a first life but for some it just seems as chances and the last life is what actually matters. who it’s against and also circumstance I think matters. I also tend to brush off c!tommy taking two of c!dream’s lives but I also tend to brush off the canon lives lost during the first l’manburg war as it was war and c!dteam and co were just better. I suppose I’m an everything but l’manburg apologist because of its foundations ig although I can still understand and acknowledge it’s importance to the characters such as c!tommy. I’ve seen it said that c!dream deserves prison because he took two of c!tommy’s canon, amongst other reasons of course, but so many other characters have taken canon lives and how do you determine the consequence of that in the dsmp cause in irl it’s very different and in the dsmp so far there really is no consequence for murder. like for example c!punz took two of c!wilburs canon lives (I stan him for that I’m a punz simp what can I say) and other characters have taken canon lives too. hmm I wonder what determined the severity of crimes on the dsmp cause the one character that’s in prison wasn’t actually put in there for his crimes.

hahahaha yeah I just can’t wait till we finally don’t have to reach that much

ahaha fair enough I just sometimes type too fast and autocorrect never seems to know what I want to say and I do not have the brain power to proof read a single thing I write. also I type out the asks in notes and after I sent the last one I was like damn that was really long and pasted it into pages to check. and oh my god this one is over a thousand words that’s like longer than one of essays I wrote for my philosophy final exam😭😭 I am so sorry

I will say though that I am quite enjoying this discussion cause it’s the most in depth discussion I’ve been able to have about this

I saw the angst wilbur put on reddit that mother fucker (affectionate) I actually have a rewlly weird relationship with wilbur’s meta lore. Things I accept: sally is a salmon, fridge mom, all the characters being morally gray. Things I don’t accept: whatever he was trying to do with character ages, also saying revivebur was straight when c!tommy saw him and quackity making out like nice try king. One of my biggest issues with the sever is that I get so easily attached to mobs/npcs in dream smp and they die so easy so Im always sobbing,,,, if anything happens to shroud, yogurt, michael (notchill), or fran I’ll mcfucking lose it

For c!dream getting out of prison I see there being only two routes: 1. he’s worse by a lot more evil more fucked up or 2. He’ll be actually too fucked up/tired/traumatized to do shit. Either of which is gonna hurt the sever so I’m looking forward to it personally

Other real life things I think should be implemented into dream smp: jury duty, required 3 life insurance, dentsits, and OSHA

I do think the rebellion against c!dream (in the final control room) is really interrsting in that c!tommy/c!punz was about to organize a bunch of the server against dream? I know c!tommy has amazing puppy eyes tm but c!punz was able to organize a big group of people, half of them didn’t really have that much against dream (other than the l’manburg people) and were only there on more vague terms. Like c!hbomb and c!ponk really didn’t have shit against dream but still helped in getting him into prison

I feel like we’re always gonna have to reach a little bit and oh shit 1,000 words? Bruh half my classes require that and I have yet to actually right that much. it’s way easier with stuff you’re passionate about and with all the content dream smp has gives way more to analyze

#anon #ask #long post #would have typed more but I’m extremely distracted by tubbo getting upset by a video game my b

[sxltedcxramel]

Can I rant about tubbo lore here

I w i l l

Read under cut I don’t want to spoil it for anyone

Also this post makes no sense cuz Im tired 🥱

Also this is ⚠️CHARTERS NOT ACTUAL PEOPLE⚠️

This isn’t twt but I just wanna specify

Im a writer and I like to dive deep into shit so meh but like I said im tired and my points aren’t really showing much.

So not to long ago Tubbo ended his stream after doing semi-unplanned lore and it was amazing. Ok so twitch chat was a bit divided but I kind of expected that. So apparently the cookie outpost is on Quackitys land “apparently” there aren’t any boarders and he never specified anything ;-;

Tubbo was so badass man, Remember when Big q said that Tubbo should put his opinion over anyone else thats what he did. He stood his fucking ground, Quakity wanted to have the outpost under Las Nevadas and Tubbo was like hell no Quackity wanted to make an embassy which was stupid you can’t claim buildings that aren’t your own. Now if there were boarders my opinion would be totally different. Maybe. I dont like Quackity right now or Sam- (but it isn’t about him rn)

What he did to Purpled

Foolish

Dream

I know people think Dream deserves the torture but I don’t (and no Im not a dream apologist I just have human decency) I feel like some people forget Dream isnt the only person who did shit. Yes he did horrible stuff but he isnt the only one but getting onto my point Quackity has changed obviously and he’s turning into the new Dream he wants Tubbo to go under his rules which isn’t right. He doesn’t want to expand into the forest because he doesn’t want to deal with Wilbur and Eret has pyramids on the other side

If Im being honest I couldnt care abt anything Quackity does Im on Tubbos side and someone needs to take Purpled and and Foolish away from Big Q.

Petition to get Quackity and Sam in prison

Maybe?

#mcyt #what is this post #caramel rambles #look im kinda conflicted here #and i kinda need to write a essay on why this is like this #i dont mind talking more abt this #i will post smth when im not tired

[stormy-light]

Ayup, its time for me to shout about the quackity lore stream and ranboo lore stream for a little!

Major spoiler warning for quackitys lore stream, and ranboos lore stream, do not continue reading if you have not watched the streams, thank youuu

Okay so first thing.

AHHHHHHSJSJDN HOLY FUCKIGN SHIT.

C!QUACKITY, SIR, YOU ARE IN THE WATER AND THE ICE HAS FROZEN OVER TOP OF YOU YOU MOTHERFUCK

ALSO THAT FUCKING FUNDY NIGHTMARE SCENE???? THE LAST FEW MINUTES OF IT??? THAT WAS. TERRIFYING????? BITCH???? I WAS HOLDING MY BREATH A LOT THERE IM???????? SHSJSJS???

PURPLEDS FUCKING UFO GOT BLOWN UP TOO AND IM VERY MAD HOLY- C!PURPLED COME HERE, IM SORRY, YOU DIDNT DESERVE THAT, COME HERE

o h m y g o d c!charlie my beloved omg hes so brain empty, no thoughts, i love him, i am an official c!charlie apologist, man can and never will do any wrong in my eyes. I dont care if he murders a man, i will still be an apologist.

i am this close to becoming a c!foolish apologist, omg, poor foolish :(

anyway, time to beloved

❤c!foolish my beloved❤

❤c!purpled my beloved❤

❤C!CHARLIE SLIMECICLE MY BELOVED HOLY SHIT-❤

movingggg on to ranboos lore stream:

MSJDJSSJSJ WHTA WAS TH AT????? SIR.

I AM WORRIED, THATS HONESTLY ALL I CAN SAY RIGHT NOW-

#im so tired #i need nap #dsmp #spoilers

[pinkcloudsnightlightbell-remade]

TW heavy

For once I don't feel like asking advice would be a sign of weakness.

I WANT AND DESERVE MORE. I WANT TO LIVE. I DONT WANT TO KEEP WANTING TO DIE. I DONT WANT THIS AND I WANT SOMETHING DIFFERENT. LIFE AND STRENGTH AND LOVE SEEMS SO FAR AWAY TIL RECENTLY. BUT IM STILL SO TRAUMATIZED AND SO PRONE TO DEREALIZING. HEALTH AND HAPPINESS ISNT A PRIVILEGE RIGHT...? I WANT MORE. ISNT LIFE A RIGHT

Even if my parents have done their middle class most to feed house and even help get me out of credit pits and even though they aren't physically abusive they have been abusive to my older sister who committed suicide after secretly being a victim of child sexual assault dismissive neglectful emotionally mute narcissistic feudalistic and ableist and rape apologists. I HAVE built up this role and this mask where I am tolerable to them so they do not find me problematic day to day. I keep telling myself that I can be bitter but I just can't shake this feeling that maybe I'm just an entitled millennial who got cucked and I'm wrong. But I have been formulating a plan to get a diploma while I am under their roof then run away one night with some money saved and live alone instead of doing this song and dance of bad class analysis where I pretend like I'm not supposed to be doing anything remotely political just put my head down work make money be less of an embarassment go to a bank get loans just to get degrees certificates jobs get cars move around be socially pleasant meet someone to make babies with (I'm bisexual/pansexual and poly...But I am trans and my parents have major issues confronting that even if they pretend to be absolutely progressive minded" (TM) like being literate and half way informed is the same thing as actually really thinking about microaggressions and oppressive behaviours they enact in oorder to be better supports which they haven't) and while their ~support~ of me being mentally ill/disabled and actively suicidal is something that did come across the first week of our bereavement--literal days before the funeral-- their twisted toxic manner of mourning has made me suicidal at least three times as of 27th December 2018; and their responses to coming out as transmasculine and bi was dont get all PC snowflake on us (Read:shut up about it unless we feel ready to go ask you curtly and rudely) and then two days after when I actually felt soft and tender enough to say I had visions of dying violently because of how terribly small and useless I currently feel they begged and begged me to make calls on my own and handle things myself because Hey We Are Really The Ones Who Are Suffering And Mourning Why Are TWO of Our Daughters Suicidal I Am Truly Suffering. Implied--"we will have insurance cover this therapy shit you should be happy haven't we mentioned it to your idiot face already just leave us alone about this shit". I may have had to survive day after day through my depression since 2014 by thinking they weren't people to open up to but that doesn't mean that they can say that. Imply that. They CANNOT

They cannot.

But they did.

They did it. They fucking did that when my heart finally came around to a place of, "Well I understand that they haven't experienced surviving and being a victim of violence and victim blaming and being transgender is foreign and even vilified so that's fair and here are all their siblings coming to the funeral to feed and help us in the aftermath and to keep us housed through all the preparations so how come, among and amidst all this compassion, they seem so hit by Stupid Bitch disease? Wtf why *shouldnt* anybody deal with depression by themself!

" I don't know that all the fear you felt before this bereavement of being in the same room holds up when they can just be seen as foolish and immature. You can 100% deal through therapy with the ableism and gaslighting you endured the silence around your constant issues with being fired at jobs you hated the the moments of realizing they want to be white passing and are sociopathically happy to be alone and have no hobbies and live in codependent relationships where they treat others like infant children or wayward siblings who need a firm hand but not heart to heart talks or reassurances or loving toughness... so just try to be uncomfortable and just shore up and bolster your underlying hope of seeing your long held affectionate blindly loyal love reciprocated.

"Keep up that small hope and bury all your pain and your furious and sour resentment if it means their happiness is number one in my life. Just do it Isagani! Do that... because it is Good." I tried it and I fell apart. I functioned for a week or two but now I am just as prone to sleeping and alcoholism and moreover, I want to escape but now I feel like hiding my desires to just pay my own way through art college and transitioning in a nearby city is nothing compared to our long history of living as a dysfunctional but somewhat stable household. /:

I FEEL like I understand I should leave but I suddenly feel ... IDK like I'm sinning before Jesus himself. What would it mean to pick up a backpack my laptop and a suitcase of clothes and some money and just go...and... Wouldn't it destroy their happiness and their legitimacy as NOT bigoted parents and NOT bad community members and NOT hypocritical and NOT at all to be blamed. ////:

I would leave them a note... I would say to meet me in 2027 in a town I feel has a small leftist community called Tavistock in South Devon in Britain and I would leave a blog entry where I detail my grief and my pain.

I wrote the post one evening on the 19th where I realized I've been covering for them even though my little lesbian moderately autistic and anxious sister had her birthday and needs my brutal honesty and my parents to stop dismissing me the most.

It (the blog post that is) speaks to my analysis of their issues and I don't want to leave without a note because they might feel like I have just gone away in a panic and might turn up dead just as my late sister did... What I want to know is should I make an escape, or should I stay with them.

I need to decide but I feel so confused. Please help I think I ... can't see a way out

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isagani \ 26.\ marxist feminist \ communist \ atheist \ very bi. \ filipino migrant. \ transgender nb. \ femme in the s.g.a. woman sense.(anons are open) \ 4 years past a severe depressive breakdown. \ scorpio passing

#Need help and although I was ashamed and thought maybe my true friendship meant opting out of asking for help I want to change that

[wiredentrails]

HI HI HI cool so for the ask game foolish and philza !! <33 - technochan-owo

omg i low key forgot i reblogged that LMAOO but YES! OK! also sorry this is a bit long bc i'm not just saying one of the things i'm also giving more in depth opinions lol.

ok so for foolish i'll be honest i don't watch his streams so i know very little about his character. basically all i know is from what i saw in the red banquet vod and that he built the mansion for ranboo and tubbo and also potentially knows or recognizes eret? i do really really like the concept of him being some sort of god or something with the totems but that's about all i can say. he seems cool!

for philza...god i don't even know what to say. i don't think i'd call myself a philza apologist but i am a bit of an enthusiast/enjoyer? im interested to see where his character goes in the future. i love the whole thing about him writing letters back and forth with wilbur and rushing to lmanburg when he stopped hearing from him...that's so fucking cool. also the possibility of him and foolish being pen pals?? very cool for both of them. i know the good dad vs bad dad debate is pretty controversial and i'm ngl i have mixed opinions. on the one hand he was canonically a caring father (the letters, immediately rushing to lmanburg, not wanting to kill wilbur, his guilt, etc) so idk if i'd call him Bad. but also i'm just like,...cmon man you didn't Haveeee to kill wilbur. it's a little hard for me to get past but i also don't think he's as terrible and awful as some fans make him out to be. now that wilbur is revived i'd love to see some sort of closure/healing/any sort of interaction lmao between them but also potentially? his thought process or something? i'm not all that caught up with phil's individual lore so i might be spewing total bullshit rn

#asks #technochan-owo #this was longer than i intended it to be whoops

[diverdowns]

narciso anasui - 1 am character analysis

so, anasui — one of my favorite jjba characters, he’s probably somewhere around third or fourth on my list. i’ll do a quick rundown of his background and personality before i go in-depth into some of the arcs he’s in as well as some of his quotes, notably from the heavy weather arc and the made in heaven arc.

(as you might expect, major spoilers for all of part 6.)

i’ve tried to go easy on the headcanons and focus more on actual character analysis / meta stuff, so here we go.

anasui probably has some serious abandonment issues — we see in canon that it’s mentioned anasui had some major issues connecting with other people growing up, and so he developed a stilted sense of empathy + an obsession with dismantling / disassembling things. this presumably carried over to people — perhaps an underlying subconscious desire to understand people’s motivations that he couldn’t read on the surface through social cues that had, until that point, gone over his head. (or maybe he just really liked tinkering. who knows.)

judging at least from his obsession being allowed to grow unrestricted and out of hand as he continued to suffer socially as a result of it, we can probably assume that anasui’s parents probably didn’t care about him too much — at worst, they may have been neglectful or abusive. still, everything abt his parents is just speculation. notably mentioned in canon though: as a child, he disassembled his neighbor’s car, and was institutionalized for six months. being placed in a place like that for that long of a time does shit to you, and it’s def nothing pretty. add likely parental neglect to the equation, and you have abandonment issues just waiting to erupt.

(as a side note, psychologically, this is an obsessive ritual that can be seen in a number of conditions from asperger’s to alzheimer’s, so honestly any kind of mental illness speculation is fair game for anasui, but this isn’t the post for that.)

whatever the case, he seems to assimilate back into society once his awkward phase ended, though his strange upbringing probably left some lifelong habits / scars there, who knows. he doesn’t do anything to warrant serious attention until he’s 21. at this point, he has a (presumably) long-term, monogamous girlfriend — if it’s anything like the way he treated jolyne, we know that anasui is… overbearing, to say the least. in any case, he walks in on his girlfriend cheating on him when he makes a surprise visit to his girlfriend’s house, and murdered both of them, dismembering them so that “they would never come together again.”

it’s never mentioned if anasui was a stand user since birth, so we can assume he either used diver down to do all this disassembling or he was just…really good at taking things (and people) apart, but it’s likely that he’d had diver down from a young age — up until he’s imprisoned, it doesn’t seem like he was doing anything in particular that would’ve caused him to be normally strong enough to kill two grown adults on the spot, without the help of a stand. (then again, anasui’s capable of some pretty fucked up things either way, so this is just my speculation / hc.)

after his imprisonment, he has a full psychiatric analysis and — nobody can find anything technically wrong with him. besides his obsessive ritual and explosive temper, he’s…just a regular guy, albeit somewhat of an asshole. emporio mentions that his original obsession’s cause was never really discovered, as well. the murder of his girlfriend and girlfriend’s lover was highly publicized, his name being spread through news both on tv and in newspapers, so presumably the details of the crime were sufficiently brutal.

anasui shows a stunning lack of regard for most people’s wellbeing — for the most part, he ignores F.F. and offers little help as she fights kenzo and his dragon dream — though jolyne (and by extension, jotaro) is a notable exception. anasui claims to have fallen in love at first sight, attracted to jolyne by her iron will and strong determination to do the right thing and save her father, and expresses a strong desire to marry her. actually, when jolyne’s involved, he has an almost humorous lack of self-preservation — eg. during the green birth arc, when jolyne’s infected with a presumably fatal plant…infection…disease….thing, anasui not only touches the flowers growing across jolyne’s skin (trying to use his stand to destroy them from inside of jolyne’s body, to no avail) but also puts the flowers in his mouth, which while being played for laughs is also ridiculously foolish. (in general, though anasui ricochets heavily from being the comic relief character to being the stoic yet brash character in the main ensemble, mostly after weather’s death) there’s kind of an explanation for his reckless behavior, coming up later.

(keeping all of this in mind, and despite anasui’s willingness to use his stand to protect the main cast to the point of taking fatal blows for them, he is definitely not a good person. i just want to get that out of the way before someone accuses me of being like, an apologist lmao)

ok, so let’s go thru anasui’s main appearances, from his introduction onward.

emporio goes on to mention that “if weather report wasn’t here to keep [anasui] calm, there’s no telling what anasui’d do.” seeing as anasui is imprisoned when he’s 21, as mentioned in his introductory chapter, and he’s 25 when SO takes place, four years have passed since he’s landed in green dolphin street jail. (for reference, his sentence is for 12 years — relatively light for a double homicide, all things considered — so he’s served a third of that.) presumably, he’s known weather report for at least a majority of that time, as they at least have enough of a rapport for weather to keep anasui out of serious trouble. (weather is 39 during the events of SO. weather, for reference, has been in prison for around 20 years, since pucci took his memories from him when he was 16. also, at the beginning of the BR arc, weather has trouble using a sink that anasui with his impressive sink knowledge notes has been around in modern plumbing for at least 20 years. as a quick side note, anasui seems to have a ridiculous knowledge, in general, of a lot of mechanical things in general — during the yo-yo-ma arc, he spouts off the specifications of a random machine gun after just glancing at it.)

at the end of ch 697 we also just see a scene of weather and anasui hanging out in what appears to be some random ass hallway in the male ward of the prison with no guards around, so take that as you will lol. the two have presumably been hanging around each other for a while like this, so that’s interesting, at least.

the BR arc is where i really got into anasui, so let’s go a little in-depth on those chapters. anasui seems to know a whole bunch of random facts about disney world (though he holds a theme park guide in his hands while he spouts a bunch of random disney world facts, he doesn’t seem to look at it / open it until after he finishes talking, which draws out the legendary “where the fuck is mickey” line). he also mentions manhattan and rome, and how he’s been to neither of those places. it’s probably safe to assume that anasui is floridian — but maybe he’s just really passionate about orlando, who knows. he seems pretty passionate about sinks, too. other than that, not much real information is released here besides things like “anasui’s very passionate about mickey” and “weather report is a fan of post-impressionism”

so, on to the Fun Arc. heavy weather. when weather first gets his memories back, the first things he does, in order, are shove a injured person out of a chair, take said chair, and then force water into a doctor’s body to make him into a chair.

anasui, despite being a literal murderer and honestly doing plenty of fucked up things over the course of the series, flips his shit. he’s legitimately horrified, probably less so from what weather’s doing and more so that it’s weather that’s doing it. actually, weather kinda acts like anasui, honestly, so maybe this is also just anasui being a giant hypocrite, but hey. he’s literally described between chapters as having no idea what’s going on and being pretty freaked out — he’s just following weather at this point because he still has no idea where jolyne is.

(im going to note for my own self-satisfaction that despite weather’s whole “you’re only useful to me now cause you can kill me, anasui” line and all that, when pucci grabs anasui during weather’s fight against him, weather visibly reacts and gets worried regardless, so hey, my rarepair)

okay, after weather’s death, anasui makes a mini speech. (arguably, weather’s death is the turning point for anasui to take more of a serious and less of a comedic role.) here’s what he says:

“listen, jolyne. people have called me a ‘murderer.’ the papers have called me that, and i can’t say that i disagree with them. when people asked me if i would sacrifice myself for the sake of my family, i answered ‘no.’ i’d probably answer that way, now. my heart was never moved by them.”

(more evidence to suggest that anasui’s relationship with his family wasn’t necessarily the best.)

“but i know that i’d be willing to risk my life for something that was able to revive me. i used to be dead.”

interjection here: whether he’s talking about his betrayal (when his girlfriend cheated) or maybe just a general feeling of aimlessness towards life in general, this is pretty dark for anasui, actually. it’s one of the only times he even talks abt his crimes, and this is an interesting concept that araki explores a few times with multiple characters. (eg. anasui risks his life to revive himself with “love,” or what he thinks is love, in any case, to follow jolyne. abbacchio does something similar to follow buccellati, in p5. weather “revives himself” for revenge, and johnny in p7 for the hope of walking again.)

prior to giving himself a mission (jolyne), anasui thinks of himself as functionally dead. this also explains, for example, his nonchalance towards risking his own life and wellbeing for the others.

“weather was that way, too. weather came back to life when he left that prison. i can tell. so don’t think too deeply about what happened to him. these past few days, weather was happy. weather was already saved.”

— okay, in my mind, most of this is just shit anasui says to make jolyne and hermes feel better about weather’s sudden death. to an extent, it’s true: weather prior to getting his memories back was enraptured with the world outside the prison, helping innocent people, messing with sinks, reading fairy tales, but that’s not really the truth. after getting his memories back, weather admits to wanting to die, admitting that he took a cruel sense of pleasure in watching heavy weather run its course and telling anasui that in a twisted way, he’s glad anasui’s there so that he’d kill him. weather’s not happy.

(but who knows? in the end, the character that actually knew weather for the longest was anasui — maybe he’s right and that there was something that revived in weather that we didn’t get to see as the readers.)

but what’s interesting is that he doesn’t mention weather’s sudden transformation after getting his memories back, he lets jolyne and hermes carry on the weather they knew in their thoughts, instead of telling them the truth of weather’s personality. on my second read-through, i noticed that (besides pucci, i guess, and versace by proxy) anasui is the only one who sees weather’s true personality.

and maybe, dying for the sake of his goal (ie. weather’s attempted revenge) was close enough to redemption, in anasui’s eyes. if we pick apart weather’s final goals, he’s living only so that he can 1. take revenge on pucci and 2. die. honestly, in a sad, fucked up anasui-logic kind of way, weather dying in his attempt to kill pucci at least fulfills half of those goals, so it’s not a stretch that anasui could shrug and say ��close enough i guess.” but imo, he still says what he does mostly to ease jolyne and hermes’ consciences. it’s one of his kinder moments.

in the actual final fight against pucci, anasui’s probably just behind jotaro in terms of fully grasping and understanding pucci’s abilities — and their implications in battle. his final plan is the only one they really have: because diver down is able to phase through and protect all of the others, he will take the first hit from pucci, and at that exact moment jotaro will stop time and presumably ora pucci into oblivion.

it doesn’t work, but the plan had merit and was surprisingly well thought-out, showing quite a few of his personality traits — while he’s angry and headstrong most of the time, he’s relatively good at thinking on his feet and is always quick to come up with plans, especially in battle. now let’s look at his last lines.

“don’t stop [pucci’s blow] before he hits me. do it after…”

while all the other characters pause and stare at him in shock after he says this, he’s relatively calm about it. he knows it’s the only chance they have, regardless of the danger it poses to himself. dying, to anasui, is not the worst that can happen — it’s having to live again with no purpose (which he’s established, atm, as jolyne).

“ever since i got out of prison, i’ve managed to stay alive… if i can just stay alive, keep this trend… then maybe i’ll ask jolyne to marry me. …or, you know, something like that.”

a lot of people do make light of this (and it’s somewhat comedic, for sure) but it’s interesting again to see how much this drives him. before i really get into it, let’s take a look at jolyne’s (infamous) response.

(jolyne:) “anasui… all right, ask me. […] your plan… it still as hope. it’s not darkness that drives you… even if there’s only one path that we can take, if there’s a hint of hope, then that’s the right path.

holy shit do i love this quote. in the end, anasui’s not… redeemed, not really. he’s still a murderer. he still feels no remorse over killing those people. but he’s not evil, either. his motivation is that he wants to live for real: he is driven by hope. and through all the morally grey protagonists of parts 5 on, this is what they all have in common: a hope or dream that gives someone who’d thought themselves dead something to live for. jolyne doesn’t say this because she’s suddenly in love with anasui, or because she wants to marry them, she says it because she’s realizing this — she’s realizing that anasui’s hope, his resolve, might be enough for this plan to work.

actually, in the end, in an ironic twist of fate, he does die for — and by — jolyne’s hand. (hah.) pucci redirects stone free’s punch into anasui’s torso, piercing through his chest and killing him near instantly. rip. and that, in any case, draws an end to this wall of text.

also i think one random fic i read mentioned a throwaway line that anasui apparently had about him having been married once in prison? i dont recall anything like that, but someone else has confirmed it (i’d love to find the source, if anyone has it!)

i’d love to get into the whole thing about his motivation in the first place: why anasui “falls in love” with jolyne and why that matters, as well as possible subconscious motivations for his obsessions/his stand ability but that’s falling solidly into the territory of hc’s, and not so much analysis/meta. 

i’ll write it up some other time, maybe, if there’s interest.

#narciso anasui #narciso annasui #jjba #stone ocean #jjba meta #stone ocean spoilers

[mc-slowwalker]

ahahaha it’s all g. and oh yeah paragraph breaks are 100% important I also will not read something without them tumblr was just adding like 5 line breaks between everything lol

yeah!! it’s cool too see how they will heal and get better (at least hopefully lol) with their current circumstances cause like they’ve all hurt other people in some way and of course forgiveness is not required at all and not everyone will be able to work together. there are fics that make the egg kind of like a common enemy for everyone on the server including c!dream which forces them to work together but I haven’t really seen one that does that concept well yet. in terms of redemption I think people tend to take it as including forgiveness which like the people hurt aren’t obligated to forgive everyone. it’s why I tend to dislike fics where c!tommy instantly forgives c!dream cause there’s more complexity to it than that which I think is fun to explore and like I think for any kind of positive change for those two characters will probably happen if they stay away from eachother.

also currently in the lore there’s just more conflict, even with c!puffy trying to help at least c!tommy we’ve got the egg (I’m an eggpire apologist what can I say) plus the las nevadas plot (I’m so excited for this) and the prison arc and it’s effects on c!dream, c!quackity and c!sam (god please cc!dream drop lore I beg TELL ME ABOUT THE COURTYARD) and the syndicate that had been pretty chill but now one of its members is locked in prison so that’s fun too (I hope I’m not forgetting any major plot point lol) This will definitely make the moving forward and healing a bit difficult

mmm yeah true age definitely makes a difference in how much flack people get but also how people handle it I’d say like for some younger people it’s 100% their first fandom and first online space so they’re pretty bad at handling themselves online. also while I dislike the “they’re a child” argument when it comes to the lore it’s interesting how much emphasis the fandom puts on the age of the characters

oohhh yes I find it sooo interesting how we determine the severity of crimes in our minds when it comes to media and real life!!!! I’ve been thinking about it for weeks in terms of fandom and real life cause I think it’s interesting and keep talking to people in my life about it completely randomly lmaooooo. like it’s intriguing (I got bored of the word interesting) how seriousness of crimes is determined in our minds and even in the law like it’s gotta do with its effect on other people I think that this would apply to the law as well. also yeah!! the whole “acceptable” crimes thing is super interesting to me cause when it comes to media murder is reduced in severity a lot and it’s cool to see the effect of that on character analysis cause like in real life murder is and should be deemed as a terrible crime. also when it comes to dsmp lore, especially cause of the minecraft mechanics applying real world rules such as criminal ones doesn’t always work. I would lowkey love to have that conversation about real world stuff adjkhsb

the povs 100% help. looking and c!techno for this I think is really interesting cause he definitely has his flaws too but the vast majority of cc!techno viewers would be considered c!techno apologists that can’t see his flaws. every other character too of course. this also why I think c!dream apologists tend to be better at character/lore analysis cause he doesn’t stream his pov. not always of course and I’ve definitely seen some c!dream apologist takes that I disagree with which just makes it all even more interesting honestly. main takeaway, cc!dream please drop lore it’s been months since that teaser

this is definitely the longest ask I’ve ever sent and I didn’t proof read it at all so sorry for that and any possible mistakes lol

honestly with the egg stuff and being the common enemy doesn’t really do it for me? I always joke that the author is c!dream ajdjkd because I think a common enemy wont fix things for the sever, they need to stop the cycle of revenge/abuse which is going to take a longass time because everyone is hurting so much. They syndacate has gotten closest to stopping that cycle out of everyone in the server which is fucking hilarious. I agree that forgiveness isn’t required but for both c!dream and c!tommy if one of them doesn’t walk away and/or apologize they’ll both keep ruminating on it forever. The fic that started this conversation was great because one of the part where c!tommy comes in and apologizes to c!dream. The closure and freedom it gave c!tommy to just fully walk away content with the last thing he said to c!dream is way way better than a future where c!dream just straight up dies. Here’s the thing, people are a lot more forgiving of the dead so while tommy might get freedom from that, he’d never get closure from it and I think it would continue to haunt him

Very excited for everyone and everything to go worse though keep it up dream smp make me hurt

I also feel like with fandoms there were a lot of unspoken rules that became cringe as the older fandoms grew up if that makes any sense. Like there were/are guidelines on how to be decent in fan spaces but a lot of them were unspoken and if you speak them, the people who would need it think it’s cringe. Sometimes I get secondhand embarrassment when I see those “fandom rules” posts but then I read it and it’s all really good advice?? It’s like hey don’t send death threats don’t harass people and just chillax we’re all here for fun

The “they’re a child” thing is interesting to me because while I also use it to excuse a lot of the dream smp minors, the age range I use “they’re just a kid” for is a lot more lenient than most. I add sap, niki, jack, and quackity to it as well as anyone in the 18 through 20 age range as well. Maybe this is because I’m 19 so I’m like “oh shit im still a kid the fuck”. Another side of this that I think is really funny is that in real life that’s 100% not how it works? Like there are jails for children minors aren’t just allowed to do whatever and let me tell you c!tommy would 1000% be in juvie right now. Minors on the dream smp have way more rights then minors in real life but sadly that also comes with way more responsibility and I think we should make c!tommy pay taxes

Murder in the dsmp vs real life is also really interesting because while they have more lives, we’ve seen with foolish & puffy that even taking away a first life is traumatic and cruel despite the apathy from everybody. And who it’s against is also a hige factor if someone makes w hige company’s life harder I’ll look away in the same way that people look away from c!tommy taking two of c!dream’s canon lives. The first life seems traumatic, and the second life is bad but more so because they now have to be careful. Taking a character’s last life would be one of the worst crimes in the universe I think. Instead of taking one life like how url stuff works, you’re taking 3 lives. A murderer killing one person vs killing multiple can dictate the sentence they get for sure, but also taking lives vs killing someone is also different on the dream smp so I dunno

C!Dream apologists certainly have to reach a lot more but it’s okay because I got long arms ig

Also despite me having time to proofread everything I am confident that I will have as many or more mistakes than you because Im jared 19 and also I somehow broke my autocorrect

#anon #ask #long post