#im not always a joss whedon hate blog but when i am

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i keep trying to convince myself that the hawkeye series is gonna be good because they're introducing kate and since they're obviously setting up a young avengers movie/show they wouldn't fuck up a character introduction for a core ya member, right?

And then I remember AoU and the mcu's history with Hawkeyes and I get nervous again

#kate bishop #hawkeye #clint barton #clint was fine (if a bit bland) until ultron and it was all down hill from there #im not always a joss whedon hate blog but when i am #imagine hating women so much you ignored established character building (some of it from your own damn movie) and gave a man a whole family #and there are obviously more characterizations of clint than the disaster clint of the fraction run #but hes the most fun #and the one that youre getting the most fun interactions with kate with ala the thompson hawkeye: kate bishop run and her wc avengers run #like my man is competent at his job (mostly) but a complete disaster interpersonally and we coulda had that #anyway i guess ill just pray til december that the whedon aftershocks that have plagued the mcu dont get my girl too

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la-horrorosa

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“Idk what’s funnier The KS fans scouring the anti KS tag looking for...”

sea por puro morbo que se asoman al anti ks tag, pero cuánta inseguridad deben de tener para defender una historia que es imposible de defender?

Im gonna reply to this in english so that others can understand and i’ll start this LONG post by citing from an acquaintance’s blog: 

Anonymous asked: what do you think about ppl who enjoy ks but acknowledge that it features a sexually and emotionally abusive relationship and enjoy the story but reject the notion of celebrating the actual relationship or sangwoo as a character? like they hate sangwoo or they might think he's a well written character but a shitty person? just curious bc i know there are ks blogs like that which idk if i should hate[…]same anon who asked about ks blogs that condemn the abusive relationship in ks. i just wanted to add ppl who want bum safe at the end of ks and who see the story as a condemnation of abuse itself

I see where you’re coming from with this but ks is not ~problematic~ media. It is garbage through and through. As someone who has read it, you as a reader are supposed to sympathize with the relationship at some points, it’s kind of emotional whiplash.

The story is barely there honestly. The first two chapters are about how Bum ended up where he is but every chapter after that is just constant violence and pain to not only Bum but to women and other gay men as well. The only thing keeping people reading is how fascinating we, as a society, find abuse. People are drawn to it and this author knows it. The torture is the only “interesting” part and it’s all the story relies on. The people who read it may not consciously condone the relationship but they’re still consuming media wherein the entertainment relies solely on the suffering of a mentally ill gay man.

I had a conversation w/ Dipper after some idiot mikayuu shipper kept coming after them on anon with really nasty messages that were just blatantly insecure about how Dipper condemned Mikayuu as incestuous. So I talked to Dipper and I told them how I ship *problematic* stuff like Mikayuu, but even so it was wrong of that anon to be so rabidly aggressive, and because people are in fact allowed to criticise *problematic content* and point out things that make them uncomfortable/things that display flagrantly awful themes and imagery. 

And I hope every “anti anti” out there knows that the convo was perfectly cordial and productive after we left it at that. Thing is that these kind of ppl don’t get is that it’s not about it being fictional, it’s about how you consume media, how it shapes your views and tastes, cultivation theory, and how you respond to it. What you as a consumer are ok with seeing/what you want to see. This is why *problematic* faves are a thing, because i don’t hear ppl saying to automatically cancel everything prior to 2009 just because of the abundance of disgusting things like rape and gore in them, just that there should be an awareness of how media is now handled, created, consumed, and discussed--not only that, but to display more empowering and positive content across all genres, dark or not, now that we have the tools to do so properly. Nobody’s out there demanding things like cancelling reruns of Buffy the Vampire Slayer; just pointing out how awful characters like Spike and Xander are and how Joss Whedon’s Male Feminist™ views coloured the creation of Buffy.  

KS is not an example of this because, like Dipper said, there’s nothing *problematic* about it in the first place: it is unmitigated garbage through and through. 

It is solely about an author pandering to the thirstiest yaoi fans and playing with their fascination for abuse. The story is rooting for the “relationship” between Sangwoo and Bum, it puts Bum into explicitly humiliating sexual situations for the purpose of sexually arousing the audience; it puts him into harms’ way such as having his legs broken, being slapped and hit, nearly drowned, and even raped to the point of experiencing anal bleeding. Sangwoo’s repugnant mommy issues are displayed by blatantly homophobic/gender essentialist views by forcing Bum to wear women’s clothing and even buying them for him when they’re out shopping, making him do his housework, frequently commenting on Bum’s “feminine” qualities, always wanting to have sex from behind in a dominant position, referring to himself as the “husband” in the pair (gag), and even vomiting out of disgust after Bum asks if he can receive oral sex from him. 

The “relationship” is all about how a serial killer/rapist--a monster--manipulates and hurts his captive into needing his attention, and preying on his mental illness and insecurities in order to keep himself safe from the attention of the authorities and then (as so many fans are apparently hoping for!) to mould his captive into his accomplice by hinting and prodding him about his abusive uncle. 

For all the fans that protest about being painted as disgusting, who argue they like it for the “plot” and “psychological elements” and “dark theming,” they’re bullshitting. There are plenty of dark and psychological series out there that don’t market themselves on the appeal of an abusive m/m dynamic. There are plenty of m/m series that discuss difficulties in the relationship/show explicit sex without them playing up the looks and “brooding danger” of a sadistic murderer. And so far, all of these people who claim to like it for the “plot” have had as much porn of Bum in female underwear/of being fucked as their fellow fans, salivating over Sangwoo’s muscles, sledgehammer memes, fawning over Sangwoo calling himself the “husband,” posting excited reaction faces whenever Bum is raped they have sex. They hypocritically scorn the lgbt people/abuse survivors who object to Killing Stalking while holding up their token gay/abused fans and egg them on into heaping trash talk onto the others for spoiling their fun. I seriously doubt KS would even be half as popular and get such a defense if the relationship was m/f or f/f.  

And for me, the last straw was when one of the most prominent KS fans turned out to be a disgusting transphobe who supports nonsensical American bathroom laws under the guise of “protecting real women” as well as reblogging from honest to god paedophiles--sorry, I mean “minor attracted persons.”

I’m down to watching and consuming dark, problematic media. I even have a nsfw tag here on my main and have discussed imagery like explicit sex and and violence and death with fellow authors and bloggers here. And I’m not scouring the tags (unlike some people) for “anti x” content to start fights over. It’s ludicrous for others to suggest that objecting to media like that is always born out of puritanism. But KS isn’t *problematic* nor does it deserve a defense--it is pandering to the lowest common denominator and making a buck off of people solely because yaoi makes them hard and they’re still acting like 13 year olds who think consuming violence makes something edgy.  

#la-horrorosa #anti killing stalking