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#im still confused and ive only seen techno’s side :
sajdd · 2 years
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Look I’m super syndicate critical and all, but what do you think they could have done to actually be engaging as a group?
Like Phil and Techno are Mary Sues, Ranboo lore confuses me, and Niki arc was based around the og L’manburgians and especially c!Wilbur
Like the only thing I could think of was Ranboo finding about tubbo’s execution, but he did and that went literally no where
What would you do if you were in the discord calling the writing shots?
the solution is really simple actually, either make these characters realise their mistakes and have it become some sort of character development arc, for example, c!techno realising he was just being biased and his ideaology doesnt work in this situation, realises he hurt people, stops teaming up with c!dream, and slowly but surely rebuilds his relationship with the other members of the server by helping them fight back against c!dream. OR. it could be acknowledged hes a hypocritical asshole who does whatever he wants because hes strong, and actually be painted as a villain hiding behind ideologies to really just do whatever he wants. personally id prefer the first option because theres so much you could do there, and i want to actually like his character.
the issue is, all these characters have so much potential that just never gets explored. i cant tell you what exactly i would do because ive seen it be done better by other people. the potential is there and thats why its so annoying. because it gets thrown away in favour of being epic mary sue characters who are a "family" despite there barely being any emotional connections or substance.
for example, c!niki. the whole rocket duo arc was interesting, her and c!jack planning to kill c!tommy. c!jack actually had a reason whereas c!niki was simply trying to find someone to blame for all her traumas and problems. the potential of this? sweet, beloved c!niki who stood up against tyranny with nothing but spite and bravery? turning into a bitter traumatised girl in the face of loss and despair, trying to kill a friend because she had to blame someone because she couldnt handle the pain of it all? the potential for the exploration of her mental health was craaaazy. and then she just. dropped it lol. she was just like "im baking again" and its like. ok? so where did all that go, her trying to kill c!tommy just brushed under the rug, suddenly shes just "better" despite not really seeing the progression. she just suddenly was. dont even get me started on the fact she joined the syndicate, yknow, the guys who helped her destroy her home, and worked with the biggest monster of them all, c!dream, to the point she eventually helps them free him??? and shes like "theyre my family they accept me" LIKE WHAT???? WHERE???? IN THE 5 MINUTES OF SCREEN TIME YOU GUYS HAVE TOGETHER?
c!ranboo..... man. hes even more wasted potential. and i get half of it is scheduling issues, and i sympathise, but thats not the only issue here. c!ranboo has more mysteries than personality. he just keeps creating more and more questions and then never answers them, and then he kills off his character 💀 like yeah hes gonna come back but we still have no answers to anything really and its just like. ok. also the fact hes a character thats like, on everyones good side??? sorry but it pisses me off that hes all buddy-buddy with the guys who destroyed lmanberg. like he saw them blow up a nation (helping c!dream while theyre at it) and was like "PEOPLE NOT SIDES. anyway im gonna go live with them". like what?????? and then the fact he finds out about the execution and just. its never brought up again (and never fuckign will be because now c!tubbo and c!techno are buddies which was so horribly "developed" lol). he really just listened to them shit on c!tommys death and didnt say or do anything. he knew they were a threat to c!tubbo but also never really did anything other than observe. he talks so much about "people not sides" but then, what have you done to help people, to choose people, other than just be friendly with everyone and avoid conflict? so much potential, so many questions, but no actual closure for anything. also the fact that people take his word as law, despite the fact that he is actually written to be unknowledgeable/hypocritical on purpose pains me, though thats more to do with the fandom than the character.
c!phil. once again, POTENTIAL. imagine this: immortal being kills his own son in the midst of war, confusion and anguish. he carries out what he believes to be justice and pays the price by having to kill his son who he believes lost his mind. he feels guilt and for that he tries to help the nation trying to rebuild itself, only to be haunted by the ghost of the very son he killed, and finding out he lied in his letters because he didnt want to dissapoint his father. potential conflict between trying to help lmanberg vs realising maybe his piggy friend isnt so justified in everything that he does, and he sees the wreckage of november 16th for what it was. but we got this instead: kills suicidal son, calls him evil, blames government for having to kill him, disrespects his sons ghost, believes c!techno can do no wrong, and never for a second doubts himself or his buddy while actively villainising the victims and trying to "teach them a lesson"....... lol ok
sorry i went on a bit of a tangent there, but what im trying to say is, look, the potential is right there. they were SO close. but they threw it away and thats what infuriates me. because ive seen these characters be rewritten in much more interesting ways, while still keeping their flaws. but instead we got this, and if they were separated i probably wouldnt care. but my biggest grievance is the fact that their bad writing ends up fucking over the other members of the server and its annoying.
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