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bohemian-nights · 3 months
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do you (personally) think show baela&rhaena even like daemon?
It’s clear that baela still feels a sense of loyalty to him given by the letter she wrote to him in ep8, but I personally think that loyalty is just bc he’s her ‘father.’ what do you think? 🤔
😬For all his faults(I know a deadbeat when I see one. Daemon is a deadbeat. No ifs ands or buts about it. Anyone who doesn’t think he’s a deadbeat probably feels that the dad has to be completely MIA to be considered one when that isn’t always the case) Baela seems to admire her dad a great deal. It’s not just that she is in constant, but you also have that deleted scene where she tells Rhaenys she wants to fight and be like her, her mother, and her father.
The fact that she’s ranking Daemon up there with her mother and her grandmother(the true father who stepped up) says a lot. I’m sure she feels some level of resentment for how he treated her mother, but With her, it definitely goes beyond plain loyalty.
Rhaena is a bit trickier because she has had all of two lines as a teenager, but it’s obvious that when she was a child she felt severely neglected by him and wished to do whatever she could to make him notice her. I doubt that anything has changed in the past six years to rectify the situation. Scratch that, nothing has changed in the past six years because of anything had Daemon would call out Rhaenyra for treating his daughter like Cinderella.
If that’s not enough for some people, I’ll let y’all in. Do you see Rhaena’s hair? Do you see how it’s been the same for years on end? Black girls do not wear our hair in the same style for years on end let alone a couple of months. You know what causes that? Depression and neglect.
You saw how she perked up when those wild dragons were mentioned. The poor girl is in desperate need of attention, love, and affection. She still wants to be noticed by him. she’ll grow out of it(when she becomes a lady of house Hightower 😏), but for now she just wants him to be her dad.
Now, to be honest, the show is probably never going to address these issues. At most we might get Daemon saying goodbye to Baela, but Daemon apologizing to Rhaena? Nope. Rhaena expressing to Daemon that she wants to be seen by him? I doubt it.
All we’ll get is what we got last season because this show would rather pretend like Daemon didn’t have any children with Laena(and I’m not getting into that, but the showrunners clearly have a bias towards certain people). I’ll eat crow if I’m wrong, but I doubt I will be.
How I don’t hate Daemon is a freaking miracle cause this man is just 🙃 He literally does not pay attention to his children. Well the girls at least, but that’s okay. According to the dummies, Daemon only loves his children by the love of his life(who he choked out) Valyrian Karen. The girls aren’t Missy Anne’s so why should he pay any attention to them 👍🏽
Which brings me to how on God’s green earth anyone can say or think that Nettles will be Daemmon’s child. Dameon doesn’t pay attention to his legitimate fully Valyrian daughters why the hell would he pay attention to Nettles? She’s definitely not Rhaenyra’s child. She’s not even fully Valyrian. Why would he be rolling out the red carpet for her🙃 Make it make sense.
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mygwenchan · 3 months
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I'm being haunted by 100.000 baht...
What is it with Playboyy and the 100.000 baht? Does anyone know if that's Thai slang for something? (Like 5555 means hahaha or even the raunchy 69 (nice)). Because that number keeps showing up...
One of the newspaper intro clips talks about 100.000 baht (translation, ep2):
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The drugs that Nant threw away, so he wouldn't get caught by the police, were worth around 100.000 baht (ep8):
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Nant wanted to borrow 100.000 baht from First and Zouey, claiming he needed the money for the treatment of his sick mother (ep5):
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And now the 100.000 baht will show up again in ep10, it's the exact sum that Mr daddy Jason Lee donates for an art exhibition. Note: If I'm interpreting this right, the money goes to Zouey or his art class?:
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Mind you 100.000 baht is only 2605,37€, so actually not that much. Ok, for a poor student it is a lot of money, but for daddy Jason? Nah, that dude is swimming in money! Idk if he'd kill Nant over such a small sum... In any case, maybe there's a deeper meaning behind that number?
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inkyweenus · 8 months
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Post 8 edit: This has nothing to do with EP8, but I still stand by it.
I was kinda frustrated at first with how little actual plot information we've been getting each episode, but then I realized that if we got any semblance of a plan from Lu Guang, that would mean that Xiao Li would also probably get that information, and then he'd fuck up everything with sheer incompetence.
I mean... it's pretty much his fault that both of his partners are dead, and if it weren't for Qiao Ling reigning him in, he'd have done a lot more damage already. But she's reigning everyone in this season. Post 8 edit: I stand by this QL statement even more now. Although, because of the shitty subtitles, I'm not 100% sure if Wang Juan is actually dead yet.
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Love that for Qiao Ling. But back to Xiao Li:
I have very little sympathy for him.
As a boss, he never gave his subordinate a day off. Not even to have a proper wedding. Or to care for his pregnant wife and unborn child. And after working Chen Bin several days in a row without even letting the man go home to sleep, XL was too caught up in getting some civilians to do his job that he didn't even notice CB leave the room during a time that he said himself everyone was to be on high alert. And we all know what happened after that.
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And then after seeing his dead partner fall from the sky, XL was knocked out by random extras he knew would probably be afoot, rendering him incapable of doing anything while those civilians and some old people safely (?) apprehended the suspects.
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(Okay, that one isn't fair. He was definitely in shock. But still.)
And then once he was conscious and back to work, he demanded the civilians continue to do his job for him, even though one was literally hooked into a hospital bed, because he's not even competent enough to look into cases that his former colleague-turned-evil and current antagonist was involved with during his downward spiral.
And then, he doesn't even wonder why some random unidentifiable witness only wants to talk to this civilian that shouldn't isn't publicly on the case but is essentially running it. XL just gives said civilian, who minutes before exited the scene of a double homicide while experiencing not only his own emotions but those of the child watching her mother (and almost brother) be beaten to death, a crash course on police interrogation and says, "Go get 'em, Tiger!"
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And then, after losing his first trusted partner to a person who has proved capable of possessing anyone to do anything including kill themself and kill their friends, he established a whole buddy system to avoid people getting possessed and hurt but said his currently assigned partner was fine to go alone because he trusted her and she's "strong." Isn't that even more reason to not want her to potentially get possessed? It literally just happened to a cop you trusted, so it's not like the law makes them immune.
And then when his new partner, this civilian he can't stop traumatizing, and the person that has admitted on mic to be the one possessing people went missing after acting suspicious on camera AND MICROPHONE, he didn't even bother to call and notify the guard posted at the exit, who was also not part of this buddy system apparently. Like... Where did you think they were escaping from, the air vents?! This isn't a spy novel. And you left the one guy who's in charge of people coming in and out of the premise alone and totally out of the loop?? When one of the people involved is a former cop that people around here seem to kinda trust a bit?!
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AND THEN he couldn't even catch the kid he put a tracker on, but this time he didn't even have to ask the civilians to do his job for him. They just heard that CaPtaIn XiAo was on the case and immediately jumped into action--evading police and hijacking vehicles to triangulate their partner's location by land and sea to prevent his capture
(at least for now... things can go south pretty quick and I'm just being dramatic while I wait for this episode to drop) Post 8 edit: Obviously things were going to get worse first. Would love some understandable subtitles to really know how much worse, though.
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Or.
He's actually the bad guy and all of this was on purpose. I think I'd be okay with that.
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sunoodilocks · 2 years
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BRIDGERTON S2 opinions
After watching bridgerton s2 on repeat - atleast some specific scenes, I have decided that MARY SHARMA WAS A STEPMOTHER.
(I will keep this short)
I want to bring attention to this line ->
ep8 36:36 s (the talk between Kate and Mary after Anthony askes Kate to marry him for the first time)
Mary to Kate: Edwina forgives you, I forgive you
For once let's not talk about Edwina, a teenage girl (who I still have a bone to pick with btw but let's forget abt that for a sec) but Mary, a grown ass woman who doesn't know the harm her words can do.
Why exactly does she say "I forgive you"? In Edwina's case I can understand but Mary? What are you forgiving Kate for?
For carrying on the Sharma family since she was about 18? For still understanding Mary's absentism during this time while she was herself also grieving her father's death? And never ever complaining about it?
For the forced parentification Kate had to go through? Raising Edwina all by herself all these years to the best of her capabilities? Imo excluding her personality, Kate really actually made Edwina one of the most qualified women in the marriage mart based on her skills (which again, she taught Edwina herself.
For managing the whole family's finances? If Mary was atleast helping Kate all these years I can guarantee you Kate would have consultated or atleast told her about the deal with the Sheffields - but since Mary never there to support her, Kate felt responsible for every burden they had. She felt compelled to manage her family out of every situation without anyone's help.
During this time, it was obvious Kate subconsiously wanted to hear Mary say "No its not your fault - you have done everything you could for this family" or atleast smth along those lines. Kate wanted reassurance, she was crying for fuck's sake, she wanted atleast her 'mother' to tell that that she hasn't completely failed her whole family (💔).
But instead what does Mary say? Out of everything she could have said? I FORGIVE YOU
This is basically an indirect way of telling kate "YES I BLAME YOU FOR EVERYTHING BUT I FORGIVE YOU" and I'll never not hate her more.
But what do I hate the most? The absolute lack of genuine female relationships - Edwina wasn't enough, they had to make Mary live up to the STEPMOTHER STEREOTYPE.
GOOD JOB BRIDGERTON!
(I recommend reading the comments too and putting in your own thoughts on this post)
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pettydollie · 8 months
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talking about each of rory's boyfriends
dean: ugh. ik EVERYONE says this, but s1 dean was just like soo perfect. too good to be true. he was cute, charming, and kind. i think he was a good 1st bf for rory. besides the fact that he freaking dumped her just because she wasnt ready to say "i love you back" and didnt respect her opinion on donna reed. and theres more. s4, took advantage of her and took away her virginity (im not fully blaming him, rory made me really mad too). like dude, he was MARRIED. poor lindsay didn't deserve being treated the way she was also. she just wanted to be with her husband. and then he based their (rory and dean) little relationship on sex. LIKE HUH?? when he was drunk the night before his wedding, he was saying how rory could fix the world, he loved her, and how she was so smart. what happened to that like what.. overall, i think he was great for a while until he wasn't. he also didn't have any character development at all. jess: in case you haven't seen any of my other posts, i am 100% team jess. i could write an essay about why he was the best bf, but i wont. and im not saying he was perfect at all. like ofc not, no one is! but the little things he did were just soo cute even when they weren't together. like buying rory's basket for $90! ughhh i love that episode sm. anyways, i love the fact that they were genuinely great friends before lovers. AND LETS TALK ABOUT SEASON 6. "wHy did you drop out of yAAleE?" iconic. okok so i absolutely adore that he was being totally honest with her. he was just real. like "rory, wtf are you doing?" he got her head back in the game. omg i saw this one post that was saying how when logan bought rory that birkin bag, she thought it was nice but didnt really know how to respond, but when jess gave her a copy of his book, she was really happy. because she has something special with him. ALSO did anyone else notice how jess was the only bf she didnt have sex with?? not really too important, but just wanted to say that. in AYITL, he gave rory the idea to write a book. i feel like he was always there for her. always. as a friend, bf, ex, and then friend again. through her ups and downs, he was there. fight me all you want, they shouldve been endgame. i was a upset when he got all angry when rory didn't want to have sex with him in another person's house. ik that he was moody or wtv but still. AND THE FACT THAT HE JUST LEFT WITHOUT TELLING RORY. im not saying he shouldve stayed (well i kinda am) but i was so mad that he just left her in the dark. also totally not necessary, but here are some of my fav quotes from him. "ernest only has lovely things to say about you", "i love you", "an innocent boy like me should not be raised in an atmosphere like this! i wanna be good, life's just not letting me", "i like this shirt. it brings out my eyes", "it feels like im with rory and youre not", "wanna push me in the lake?", "22.8 miles. do you YAHOO?" i have more in the dungeon logan: 2nd fave bf. he was meh. sometimes he was an absolute jerkk but i do like how he pushed her out of her comfort zone a bit. AND how he tried the whole boyfriend-girlfriend thing because he liked her so much. and personally, when jess went to visit rory in s6 ep8, i think he had a valid reason to be upset. like he literally pulled up to richard and emily's to see rory with a random dude going out. and the first thing she said to him was "when did you get back? i thought you were coming home tomorrow?" i mean i could totally see why he thought something was going on. (but he did overdo it a little. at first it was understandable but as the night went on, he was just being plain rude). on the other hand, he was kinda boring to me. i feel like he didnt really have much of a personality besides being rory's bf. BUT I HATE HATE HATEEEEE that he was hooking up with rory and ENGAGED TO ANOTHER WOMAN in AYITL. its like dean all over again smh. tbh im glad rory didnt end up with him. BUT HES HER BABY DADDY (im pretty sure) LIKE NOOOO anyways, these are just my opinions and feel free to disagree just dont bash me please <3
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silvertsundere · 11 months
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Silver Talks AniManga (04/06/23)
starting from today, for stuff that I don't have anything to say about I'll simply have it on the list here with a * but not in the body of the post itself, in today's case that applies to jiangshi X
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Anime
Megumin Ep9
I know I said on like ep 5 or 6 that that coulda been the finale but this one felt even more like one since they actually arrived to axel. but no there's still 3 more. the ep wasn't bad tho, actually had some decent animation when arnes was making that death ball, big sad she died tho she was a baddie
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Imas CG: U149 Ep8
very good ep, like usual, elevated even more cause it had so much kiryuu too tho I talked about that in another post. not much else to say, tho I want to give a shoutout to that one scene of character acting with just chie's hands around 12:30 (it's the 3rd one in this tweet, rest of the thread is good too tho)
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Mashle Ep8
I forgot they mentioned I0 this early in the story (big final boss) but anyway. the 1v1s have finally started, up until now the animation has been serviceable but nothing to write home about. the fight with dot in this episode was not any different, perhaps slightly better than average, but now that the 1v1s are starting I'm hoping for at least a crumb of sakuga. from the next ep title it sounds like next episode it's gonna be mash vs razor which is the one fight out of these 3 I want to look good the most. I guess they're doing this fight first cause it'll end with mash fighting the puppet guy for the finale and they wouldn't want to have 2 mash fights back to back
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Pokemon Horizons Ep9
good ep, we're finally in paldea and riko realized that despite this being their goal for a while it would've meant the end of her adventures with the crew. ofc that would never happen since she's the mc of the show, but it was nice seeing her come to terms with her desires and expressing herself to her dad and stuff. but forget all that cause next week is NEMONA DAY BABY LET'S GO
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Jigokuraku Ep9
good ep, I already knew it had some sakuga but it was still nice to see, I was hoping the whole fight overall looked a bit better but the big that DID look good (I posted a clip of it) sated me enough. I liked the chanting they had for the prayer forest but I wish they kept it going in the background whenever someone was there and not only when gabimaru got there, felt like a waste when they could've had that extra flavour I think. next episode we're gonna start getting our first glimpses into tao tho iirc it won't get thouroughly explained until basically the end when the group is all together
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Manga
Dandadan Ch108
very cool chap, considering the last one I thought it was just gonna be momo showing off but it was actually jiji and aira. it was cool seeing them apply the spiral stuff that okarun learned about but it's also exciting to know okarun is almost there. tho at this point I'm expecting that he won't even be able to show his power up since the baddies will be all beaten by then
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Kindergarten WARS Ch10 - 12
certainly didn't expect this to have a love triangle well, love conga line more like but still
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Show-ha Shoten! Ch19
good chap, I was curious to see what advice the guy was gonna give azemichi but it wasn't anything out of left field and was pretty sensible. I also really liked the analogy he used for how he makes jokes. anyway my buddy mega thinks it's gonna end after the competition coming next, since obata usually does short series, but we'll see. I wouldn't be surprised tho, it'd be a nice stopping point
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Pension Life Vampire Ch8
I shoulda known that they weren't actually gonna kill anyone, series is too goofy for that. nue is cute tho, can't see it all there but she got a good design
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Choujin X Ch37
I like ishida's work, I do, but it's hard to keep up when we've only been getting 1 chap like every 2 months. the chapter itself was nice, some cool action and seems like next we'll get the backstory for that noh guy. but again like I said, having such a long gap between chapters isn't good, ishida stories can already be hard to keep up with normally but this just makes it harder
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Tokyo Underworld Ch42
damn mega said this was a very eventful chapter and he wasn't kidding. I didn't expect that twist at the end but I'm sure it's gonna be a fake out, there's no way they'd her off screen like this she's too important
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The Ichinose Family's Deadly Sins Ch27
hey I'll give them credit, this chapter wasn't totally terrible, actually moving the plot forward even if it's just a tiny amount
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Fabricant 100 Ch24
?????????? I thought there had been some bad chaps but this one took the cake, like what? I guess it's so it can continue until the next serialization round, same as ichinose but that doesn't make it any less bad
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Nue's Exorcist Ch4
ok chapter, the girl's exorcist outfit has a cool design and the action wasn't too bad, I was hoping there wasn't gonna be more fanservice in this chap but I shoulda known better, that's not gonna save your series kawae you gotta try something else
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Kill Blue Ch7
ah yes the classic "elite students that the mc has to defeat in order to achieve is goal", it's a fine trope tho. having these powerful guys coming after noren should shake things up and create the opportunity for some cool action scenes. curious to see how fujimaki handles this
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Do Retry Ch5
very good chap, it's crazy to see the difference in quality between this and nue when they debuted back to back. you can really tell kirarazaka learned a lot from his time under matsui, you can really tell in the art ofc like I mentioned before but also in the paneling. it's funny cause this is the series from this batch I had the lowest expectations for but it surprassed them a lot while nue is the complete opposite
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Witch Watch Ch111
don't have anything to say about the chap itself but did wanna mention how fucked up the results for the pop poll were, like kengo and kan in 1st and 2nd? what in the world
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Blue Box Ch103
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA IT ACTUALLY HAPPENED LET'S GO miura you madwoman you actually did it god that was good, these last few chaps building up the tension for this and now this release were just so good. the confession being 3 spreads at the end was extremely good too, really giving you time to soak it in, also not as impressive but that page with the 4 panels of taiki and natsu running and it being like the continuation of each other looked really good too
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Cipher Academy Ch26
very good chap, the return of the broken glass imagery from her battle with iroha was especially very cool I was hoping something like this would happen when tayu offered to fight instead but I didn't expect it to be over so soon
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Tenmaku Cinema Ch8
good chap keeping the quality consistent, I guess that's the power of a veteran duo and as usual the information about filming terms and stuff is really neat to see I've said before but I don't think this series is gonna be long, which is a good thing mind you, tho I got no idea how long it could be, mayhaps a handful of vols? or just a bit more
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Mashle Ch158
good chap, the good ol "power of friendship" saves the day not like that's a bad thing this IS jump after all. the action was good and that panel with mash smiling was really good too. I'm hoping for a bit more out of this fight but it prob won't be happening at this point also if me and mega's prediction of the manga ending only when the anime does it'd line up perfectly since there's 5 more chaps left to fill a vol and there's 4 more eps of the anime left.
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Undead Unluck Ch161
oh hell fucking yeah I didn't expect a martial arts tournament I'm pogged the hell up, gonna be good to have some hype after how mellow the phil retrieval arc was
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Sakamoto Days Ch121
what the hell!! all this time in the flashback sequence only to find out that maybe rion wasn't dead all along? interesting twist to say the least. also I'll be completely honest, it's been so long since I started reading that I forgot the whole series started off because of people coming after sakamoto cause of the bounty lmao
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The Elusive Samurai Ch112
very weird not having our mcs for so long. should be like 1-3 more chaps of this intermission I guess, it's gonna be a shame seeing kusunoki die he was neat
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Akane-banashi Ch64
really good chap, as expected it was the backstory of the salesman but it was fast and straight to the point, well executed like always. I also really liked that the chapter started and ended with the exact same line ("This is so stupid.") but just in different contexts, it's neat
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Ayakashi Triangle Ch132
sorry suzu but that's against your nature. you just can't fight it. nice chap anyway, really showcasing suzu's shamelessness, tho I'm more hype to see matsuri fighting along mei and kanade next chap
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seriouslycromulent · 2 years
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The Results of My Night Court re-watch (More Larroquette gushing)
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Hey folks! I'm back with a (final?) update on my Night Court re-watch. I know you were waiting with bated breath to see how it turned out. /sarcasm
I managed to knock out all 9 seasons on Freevee in about 2.5 weeks, and it was a nice little trip down memory lane combined with some new episodes that I didn't remember at all. Not that I'm complaining. I liken it to finding a couple of extra french fries you missed at the bottom of your McDonald's takeaway bag. Technically, they were always there, but hey, they're new to you, right?
Anyway, while I was watching, I kept a tally of my favorite episodes over the 9 seasons, with a special focus on the one and only Mr. Larroquette. Since he was the reason I was re-watching the show, it made sense that my list of faves heavily favored him. (The overall list also favored Roz, surprisingly. I liked her character the first time I watched the show, but I don't think I appreciated how much character development they gave her for the era this TV show appeared in. But that's a different conversation.)
So I thought I'd share my final results of my re-watch for anyone who hasn't seen the show and wants to, but they're really only watching for the awesome-ness that is John Larroquette.
Although I don't encourage you to only find joy in John's performance (because everyone is quite good and the show was well-written for the majority of the time it was on the air), this is just in case you're someone who would say: "But I only want to see the best of Dan Fielding, so what episodes do you think I should watch?"
Here is that list ... in 2 parts.
Part 1 focuses on Larroquette's dramatic skill as an actor. Sure, we all know he is talented as hell, but I think what really stood out to me was how well he could deliver a great monologue or manage to wrench empathy from you even when Dan was being completely abhorrent.
John will probably always be known for his comedic skill -- covered in Part 2, but you will note that my list for his top dramatic episodes is much longer. And I think that says something.
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So without further ado ...
The "Dramatic Chops" list includes episodes I think give the audience a chance to see the depth of Dan's character beyond the constantly wheeling and dealing, sex-obsessed scoundrel he appears to be on the surface. We not only get to see Larroquette show that there's more to Dan than the image he projects, but it also allows the character to grow a little, proving that he is indeed capable of growth.
Part 1: Top Dan Fielding episodes - Dramatic Chops
Married Alive (s2, ep19) -> Dan's relationship with an heiress is deeper than everyone thinks
Best of Friends (s3, ep6) -> Dan's close friend is transgender
Dan's Boss (s3, ep7) -> Dan butts heads with his new boss, who is a little person
Dan's Escort (s3, ep12) -> Dan moonlights as an escort & receives an indecent proposal
Dan's Operation, Pt. 2 (s4, ep6) -> Dan comes out of a coma & admits why he's afraid of turning 40
Paternity (s4, ep19) -> Dan may be a father
No Hard Feelings (s5, ep8) -> Dan turns down a high-powered job where sexual favors are expected
The Constitution, Pt. 2 (s5, ep10) -> Dan saves Roz when she goes into insulin shock
Danny Got His Gun, Pt. 2 & 3 (s6, ep1 & 2) -> Dan lives with an Inuit family after his plane goes down near the Arctic Circle
The Law Club (s6, e7) -> Dan gives up joining an exclusive law club to save Christine from a creep
Strange Bedfellows (s6, ep17) -> Dan falls for Joan, his electoral opponent / Dan finds real love
For Love or Money (s7, ep6) -> Buddy gets married and Dan hits rock bottom
Branded, Pt. 2 (s7, e10) -> Dan gets a job as a waiter while he's suspended pending an investigation
A Family Affair, Pt. 2 (s8, e2) -> The aftermath of Dan's sister and Bull hooking up
To Sleep, No More (s8, ep19) -> Dan's insomnia gets the better of him and his conscience
Santa on the Lam (S9, ep11) -> Dan convinces a department store Santa to keep living
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The "Comedic Chops" list is pretty much what you would think. These are episodes that I think really showcase how great Larroquette is at comedy. I mean, pretty much the entire series is a showcase of that, but these episodes really stand out as a cut above the rest. In short, if someone said they didn't find John particularly funny, I would use this list to support my argument that he has a gift for comedy.
Part 2: Top Dan Fielding episodes - Comedic Chops
Hurricane, Pt. 1 & 2 (s3, ep21 & 22) -> A childbirth class is stranded in court & goes into labor all at the same time
Earthquake (s4, ep9) -> Dan is trapped in an elevator with Roz & 2 wrestlers
A Day in the Life (s4, ep15) -> The team must clear 200 cases before midnight
Passion Plundered (s7, e11) -> Dan and Harry compete for the attention of a romance novelist
A Night Court at the Opera (s8, ep9) -> Dan tries to seduce Harry's girlfriend
Guess Who's Listening to Dinner (s9, ep6) -> Dan dates a mob boss' daughter
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And this, just for the helluva it, is my list of what I think are the best overall episodes featuring Dan or where his contribution to the ensemble definitely made the episode a winner overall.
My Top 10 Favorite Dan Fielding episodes
Dan's Escort (s3, ep12) -> Dan works as an escort & receives an indecent proposal
Dan's Operation, Pt. 2 (s4, ep6) -> Dan comes out of a coma & admits why he's afraid of turning 40 (This has one of my favorite scenes John has ever done on the show. If you've seen the episode, you know the one.)
No Hard Feelings (s5, ep8) -> Dan turns down a high-powered job where sexual favors are expected (When he stands up for himself, rattles off his career record, and insists he deserves more than to be someone's boy toy, you will want to rewind & watch it over and over again.)
The Law Club (s6, e7) -> Dan gives up joining an exclusive law club to save Christine from a creep
Strange Bedfellows (s6, ep17) -> Dan falls for Joan, his electoral opponent / Dan finds real love (I really loved this episode and was sad that we never see or hear from her again.)
To Sleep, No More (s8, ep19) -> Dan's insomnia gets the better of him and his conscience (The scene at the podium was both hilarious and heartbreaking in equal measure. You just want to give him a hug by the end.)
Hurricane, Pt. 2 (s3, ep22) -> A childbirth class is stranded in court & goes into labor all at the same time
Earthquake (s4, ep9) -> Dan is trapped in an elevator with Roz & 2 wrestlers (His fear of confined spaces is really well played. The perfect balance between humor and pathos.)
A Night Court at the Opera (s8, ep9) -> Dan tries to seduce Harry's girlfriend (John just stole this whole episode. It's easily one of his best performances in the entire run of the series.)
Guess Who's Listening to Dinner (s9, ep6) -> Dan dates a mob boss' daughter (The physical comedy throughout this episode was just hilarious!)
Honorable Mentions:
The Blizzard (s2, ep10) -> Dan is trapped in an elevator with a gay man who hits on him
Hit the Road, Jack (s5, ep13) -> Dan becomes friends with Christine's dad when he retires
A New York Story (s9, ep13) -> Dan is a beauty pageant judge for Ms. Transit contest
OK. That's it. I know it's another really long post, but to praise Mr. Larroquette is a honor, not a duty.
Please feel free to tell me what your favorite Dan Fielding-focused episodes of Night Court are. And if you have any questions about why I chose what I chose, don't be afraid to ask.
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7. 11. 25. for the ask game !!
(it's Lilly btw)
7 (favorite episodes in seasons 1,2, and 2)
Okay, I am going to show a bit of how bad a stranger things fan I am because I do not remember the events of every episode. I will try to find the episodes for them to make the list easier to read but I am sorry
S1, ep1, The Vanishing of Will Byers. This episode slaps okay. It's not my fault. Only problem is that I notice something heartbreaking everytime I watch it. 1, Joyce talking about how she thought her son got hate crimed (sobbing and screaming and eating my mattress). 2, the fact that Joyce downplays her own son being missing while on a call with Karen. I have a few guesses why. Probably to not freak anyone out but also because she didn't want anyone thinking she was a bad mom if they did end up finding Will. 3, Jonathan having to deal with the guilt of him not being their (Jonathan, you are perfect. It was the 80s. It's not your fault)
S2, ep8, The Mindflayer. I am a sucker for the episode where everything goes to shit. I love that everyone thinks they have control before the plot twist kicks in and now everything is flying out of control and needs to be reeled back in (Con, Bob 😭 I miss him). And as previously mentioned, when they all meet up and just the absolute stress. Because two plotlines have no idea what is going on and could get hurt because they don't know that danger is right around the corner. (close second is Ep9 because B*lly get's his shit kicked in by Max for being a shit head)
S3, ep3, The Case of The Missing Life Guard. I cry every time. I actually relate to so much to Will in this episode. I cry and cry every time the rain scene comes on (close second is the episode where B*lly get's rammed by a car)
(sorry again for rambling. I have too many thoughts and someone needs to take away my tumblr)
11 (Which season has the best ending?) A while ago I may have said S1 but I think actually S2. After discussing it for a while, it has the best examples of what I like. I actually think in the past I was more critical of S2 just because it was the follow up to S1. But it is actually really good 25 (favorite Mike/Will scene?) The ending of S3. "What if you want to join another party?" "Not possible." Lives rent free in my head. I randomly eat leaves over this quote. If someone had this interaction with me, I would go feral (/pos)
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The Devil Judge: Episode 3
I just finished The Devil Judge and something about this show compelled me to take copious notes - it had emotional intensity and layers of mystery. These are long and rambling, so they're likely not of interest to anyone else, but since I spent all that time writing it I decided, why not post it. Perhaps someone will find it interesting.
Below are my moment-to-moment reactions, predictions and analysis as I watched episode 3.
eps 1&2  ep3  ep4  ep5  ep6  ep7  ep8  ep9 ep10  ep11  ep12  ep13  ep14  ep15  ep16
This contains SPOILERS up through ep. 5
This is cleaned up only slightly. I followed the spelling given in the Viki subtitles. I mostly don't explain what I'm reacting to, so this will probably only make sense if you've seen the episode recently. Occasionally I give timestamps. I took these notes while re-watching the beginning after writing this post and this. I had watched up through episode 5, so some notes reference things that happen later.  
Why does he so pointedly ask Yun Su-Hyeon if she's G's girlfriend? (It's because  he's already interested in and becoming possessive of him. Romance or at minimum corruption through sexual tension). 
Leave Judge Kim to me! A battle over his soul between the cop and the judge? Corruption thriller, but it also fits a gothic romance to have a second potential love interest who is supposedly kinder and better than our hero (St. John Rivers from Jane Eyre)
So many things in this house are under dust covers. The wallpaper. Dark wood and the way the light comes in from the windows. Isolated dark gray stone English(?) style mansion on a cliff over a lake. Strange girls appearing out of nowhere. Gothic vibes! 
Sort of scary, but the music is also kind of romantic. 
Does Y suspect Jeong Seon Ah (JSA) of being behind the bomb? He's certainly implying it (13:30). Was she? She also seems to be implying that she was in this conversation. 
On the other hand, he's won a lot of public sympathy from the bomb. So maybe it backfired on her, or she has a more complicated plot. Or maybe it was Y. Of course it could be someone else entirely. 
Oh interesting! Elijah asks Y if he's dating her (judge Oh) and he answers "what are you talking about. They're my associate judges, so-"  (emphasis mine). Could be just the translation, but ...
This is immediately after he changed the bandages of a half naked Ga-On. And this is when he gets cute and pouty. 
And the way he taunts E is very sibling-like, not at all how he delivers threats in the political realm. 
Finding excuses to keep G at his house! (19:30)
The cop also floats the idea of an inside job
So based on the hoodie scene with furniture guy (starting 25:45), Y was not behind the bomb. And he says he doesn't have any questions, does that mean he knows who's behind it? so I guess he's just out for revenge? Is he so angry because he almost died or because G almost died? 
Furniture guys says "someone from the foundation ordered me too"
He almost kills furniture guy but Mysterious Assistant stops him. His expression is... hmm. (27:10)
(It does seem implausible that this one guy in this warehouse is responsible for all the furniture but I think that's a suspension of disbelief thing, not a plot point)
"Go tell your owner that he should come talk to me directly."  So does he think the Chairman is in control? Who is "he?" Or is it a translation issue? (A brief google implies that this is the likely the case - there are no third person pronouns.)
Oh! (27:34) Mysterious Assistant outright asks "is this because of Judge Kim Ga-On?"  And Y looks shifty and walks away without answering. Gothic romance signals!!! Protecting the ingenue. 
Immediately returns home and heads for G's bedroom. Gives him back (tosses him) his phone (It seems you behaved. A present for behaving.) and then lounges (somewhat sexily) on the  chaise-lounge. 
I feel like there's no reason for Y to be there. He just wanted to see G. And he's pretending to be aloof. 
(29:19) What a coy flirtatious pose. Looking up through his lashes indeed!
The way he flirts with G is different than how he flirts as part of power games with everyone else. More vulnerable maybe?
It's not all flirtation. Y is still trying to keep G from finding his secrets and G is still investigating. 
Next political intrigue gathering (32:15) includes 6 people. All the same as the first except the president's wife replaces Minister Cha. 
President Heo is speaking in opposition to the Dream Village. The Two Representative Businessmen are laughing at him.
Prez Heo  is really portrayed as a buffoon. 
Oh yeah JSA comes in and threatens him during this massage. I can't tell if he's actually too stupid to realize he's being threatened. Does he just notice the bribe?
Somehow the depiction of how she uses sex to gain power doesn't feel misogynistic to me like it often does. Is it because there's a wide variety of female characters? Is it because Judge Kang also uses his sexuality, albeit in a very different way? Is it because it's a little more subdued than usually done in American films? 
Who is the prosecutor that calls the cook?  (42:35). We never get a good look at his face. 
And who is the walking woman intercut with this? Who is she running from? 
Oh, she must be the "female part-timer"
(1:03:36) housekeeper to G: "what a curious princess you are". Gothic! 
Housekeeper says basement room is Y's
His origin flashback starts at ep 3, (1:04:35)
Isaac gives adolescent Y: Eichmann in Jerusalem, Crime and Punishment and The Moon and Sixpence.
The Moon and Sixpence: unreliable narrator and multiple povs, Wikipedia describes main character as "a solitary, sociopathic and destructive genius"
Oh. In this first flashback ep 3 at min. 1:09, Isaac stops the father from beating Y. In the memory in episode five, Y fantasizes his adult self doing the same thing. Hmmm. 
Also Isaac is seen wearing the cross pendant around his wrist here. I think the implication is it was their mother's. 
In the church story, Y has it on his wrist, even while Isaac is still alive. Hmm. 
Housekeeper: Why do you hate Y so much? Father: "Because he resembles me. That boy resembles me so much.  But Isaac, Isaac is different. Yo-Han will someday devour his older brother."
Housekeeper: "But before all that, Young Master Yo-Han was already someone who was capable of anything."  "He made the maid who liked him jump off the second floor and fed weed killer to the hunting dog the chairman cherished." 
(1:11:10) - hoodie time. Vengeance on the firefighter who we later see stole dead Isaac's watch. Y chases him and he falls off the roof. Y never touches him. Y remains expressionless. Takes the watch from the dying firefighter/beggar and walks away. 
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question from curiouscat :  I know Survival is about Evanatsu but will we get more on Ange? Does having Natsuhi there make it better than just Eva?  - Anonymous
gah, yeah! I feel bad because I never really actually put Ange in here! 😭 I do have a few incomplete drafts that have her actually physically appear, but like all my other WIPs, they're nowhere near done, so they're just sitting there 💀 Also, I think Natsuhi being there is kind of like a double edged sword probably. Ange still wants to believe the rumors and think both of them are the culprits that took her family from her, but part of why her relationship with Eva in canon got so bad was because Eva was basically all alone with the burden on the knowledge and had no one to really lean on. Here, she has Natsuhi, but also because of how strained THEIR relationship already was before all the trauma, that results in a lot of what we see in the chapters I've already posted. They fight a lot.
Since Natsuhi's there, and knows a decent amount of what happened — (details are still hazy to her probably, depending on how exactly it all went down, like if she was unconscious for a while, meaning she could think Eva is hiding certain facts or lying, which would obviously only lead to even more issues between them. But also, that whole part is currently left up to personal interpretation, as I haven't really decided on anything with it yet), — I think there's a good chance a lot of Eva's anger and abuse towards Ange in canon would instead be directed at Natsuhi, (and vice versa. Natsuhi's mad too).
But I also think Natsuhi especially would still try to show kindness towards Ange, even if Ange isn't really accepting of it. Not to say Eva wouldn't be as well at some rare times, but with the way I've written them so far, Eva's kind of. Detached at a lot of times, in case any of you haven't noticed lol. I haven't actually read EP8 manga yet (have only flipped through some of it) and it's been years since I read it in the VN, but I know there's a panel of Natsuhi smiling and patting Ange's head at some point I believe. It's cute and gives us a bit of an idea of how they would interact under normal circumstances. Of course, Natsuhi is tired in the au. They all are. And, despite anything, we know she didn't exactly have the best relationship with Jessica, but we can tell she really wanted to.
Survival IS more centered around evanatsu (sorry i'm so predictable and gay 😔), and they take most of their negative feelings out on each other (which is good for Ange not getting the brunt of it), but their obvious borderline violent tension with each other is bad mentally for anyone around, especially a young child, (which is bad for Ange). Basically, I feel since a lot of Eva's treatment towards Ange post 1986 in canon would instead be directed towards Natsuhi in the au, what Ange would face would moreso be neglect. Natsuhi would probably try to smooth things over at times, but we all know how easily she loses control of her emotions as well.
Clearly, I've already tried to have them mention her throughout the chapters, but for Ange herself showing up, I need to focus more on some of my incomplete docs. I have A LOT of incomplete docs for Survival 💀. But anyway, yeah. I think in SOME ways, Natsuhi being there could make things better for them all, but in others, it could definitely make them a lot worse.
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hi, how exactly was the rooftop scene of ep7 addressed in ep8??
hi, thank you for the ask!
technically the scene itself was only indirectly addressed in ep8, but what i said was that it was the worries i had after that scene that got addressed. so i can only explain this statement instead; it's not the same but it's kind of related. (this is something i have rambled on about quite a bit here so i'm gonna try to explain it as briefly as i can and add links to those previous posts (and some relevant ones by others) in case anyone's interested.)
my interpretation of the rooftop scene is that it was about 1) pran reaching for methods of manipulation he learned from his friendship with wai, which would have made him and pat's relationship transactional at its foundation, and 2) pat expressing his anger about this and about the guitar (he's upset and jealous bc all the things he wants, wai gets to have). the resolution of this conflict (which leads to them finally really starting to date) is all done by pat.
so i started to hope for and worry about pran needing to push himself to do more for their relationship bc we know he has difficulties expressing himself and i feared it would prevent him from doing so.
and episode 8 addressed this very well. because we see pran overcome obstacles he has and work on widening his comfort zone, and eventually the two of them both apologize to the other and they talk about their feelings and the they figure it out. together.
sorry, i know this isn't exactly what you were asking. i think directly addressing the ep7 rooftop scene would mean addressing wai and pran's relationship and pat's feelings about it, and that only kind of happened in ep9 and hopefully will be explored more in the future.
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Personally I don't see what you see in Geordo. He seems like such a scumbag to me and is the least likable charater in the whole series. He is always trying to get her alone to push her into things of a sexual/ more romantic nature without taking how she really feels into consideration. Like he "really wants her" and thats enough for him without caring what she really wants. Honestly he is the borderline non-con villian in my mind.
I mean, it's okay if you feel like that. To each their own.
Hmmm when I think about Geordo being sexually aggressive towards Katarina, I only really just think of the anime. The manga is a much more moe-fied and toned down version of the novels, and the novels does an okay job at balancing his desires for Katarina in all aspects. I'm not saying he doesn't have that trait in the other two mediums, I just think that they aren't as intense as the anime, so as someone who consumes all three versions I just tilt my head and go "huh." Of course I'm sure there are people who read the manga and novels that still feel uncomfortable about his behavior and that's valid too.
-> light novel spoilers ahead <-
tldr, there is a lot more going on to him than just someone who offers sweet words and questionable invitations to Katarina's ears, this may not be noticeable or acceptable to some people but we get to know more about how he thinks whenever the novels puts us in his point of view. You're free to dislike him as much as you want, but I like him & don't see him as a scumbag; and here's why:
I at least find it okay that Geordo is very serious about his pursuits for her because he is aware that she is dense and will not get it until you spell it in the sky. Everyone is just walking eggshells around Katarina hoping that the girl would just develop feelings for one of them to win the harem olympics. He knows that being dealt with a good card isn't enough, so he's actively taking action in order to win her heart. I mean I don't always agree with his methods either, like the "fait accompli" line or constantly inviting her to his room alone, but really, how much of that is something he really means to do vs how much of that is his excessive flirting + our minds assuming that he really means to claim her in that way?
Lines like that are really popular with japanese fans because it makes Geordo look "sexy" and "forward", which they enjoy in their fictional stories. He knows that his position gives him an advantage so he'll try to play his cards right and use it to increase his chances in victory.
It actually reminds me of a scene from the Hamefura StoryMe game, (don't really know how canon it is but I remember the JP ver. was advertised by @/hamhura) where Geordo indirectly asked Katarina how to woo a girl he really likes, and Katarina thinking he was referring to Maria, gives all the things he usually does in order to win her heart (visit her home, give her gift, dance with her in parties, be really forward about your feelings etc). I'm not saying Katarina approves of the ways Geordo attempts to win her heart, but there's some hilarity in knowing that Geordo already had and is constantly trying all the known ways to win over a girl in the world from a young age, and still has nothing to show for it. Like no awareness, much less any *feelings* lmao. So trying to make it obvious that he is interested in her romantically and sexually seems like the next logical step to him. I mean if you go by Geordo's logic and considering the time period this takes place in, he's pretty confident that he can get Katarina to love him back and they are engaged anyways so in his head he's in safe waters to attempt to make teases about such advancements if it gives him the smallest chance that Katarina would become at least aware of him through it.
Of course I know that stuff like that won't fly here in the real world, but maybe that's why I'm so lenient personally when it comes to his (debatably) sexual teases and advances, because it's a fictional story for a japanese audience. Doesn't mean I would approve any advances like that if it happens to me, it's just that it's hard to take his actions seriously when Katarina or the story doesn't take them seriously. Like, the girl would be pushed down to a bed by RufuSora and gives her a hickey and she still thinks the man is out for her blood.
He wouldn't even be entirely wrong, knowing the identities of the characters who Katarina knows has romantic interest in her in the novels, actions does speak louder than words when it comes to her. Like I said, whether or not Geordo really means what he says when the story teases the readers with sexual implications in his words and action depends on the reader in my opinion. They are there, I wont pretend they don't but I'd argue about the level of intent depending on what scene you're talking about.
The only scenes on the top of my head where he is very abrasive towards Katarina is the "fait accompli" scene, the Book scene form the anime (S1 EP8), saying he wants to lock her in his room (LN6) and the multiple times Geordo had invited her in his room at night alone (LN6 and LN8, i think).
I've already explained why I am okay with both Keith and Geordo's Book scenes from episode 8 of the first season because they are accurate representations of an exaggerated and unhinged versions of their desires towards Katarina so I won't bore you with those details again.
He mentioned in Volume 6 that he wants to lock Katarina in his room forever and keep her light to himself, which alarmed a few people when the book came out, but he said that in a moment where he feels super grateful and loving towards her because she knew how tired he was despite his fake face and without even saying anything. It was a moment where he felt so infatuated towards her that he wished the moment where he gets to rest in her arms would last forever, thus he made such a comment. I make it sound more dramatic than it was in Volume 6, it was just a quick comment honestly lmao.
For people who don't read the novels, that last part looks very sus and raises a few red flags I know, but to be fair we can't definitively say what his intentions are because Katarina never commits to those visits. Katarina has actually become wary of those invitations, because Keith and Mary have warned her that Geordo's intentions are sexual, but I'm not really trusting the word of the two people who are most distrustful and antagonistic to Geordo. They could be right, of course, but who can really say? We assume that they are correct because they care about Katarina and are wary of Geordo, but hamefura('s novels) is full of unreliable narrators anyways, it's not like Keith or Mary would consider the possibility of it being anything else because when it comes to the third prince they always fear the worst case scenario.
If you think about it, Geordo is probably aware that winning her over with a "fait accompli" won't work at all because it'll put him in a position that will make other people push him for the throne (which he doesn't want) or could ruin his reputation in high society if Katarina or her family react to it negatively. I'm not Geordo though, so I can't really say if he even have such fears and doubts in the first place, that's just my assessment based on the obstacles he has. On the outside he is really sure of himself and confident (which he arguably deserves) and on the inside he is very careful and insecure when it comes to Katarina.
Also like, spoilers but for someone who is very forward when it comes to his physical advances, Geordo is super weak when he is in the receiving end of those touches. He gets super embarrassed and easily flustered when its Katarina who is touching him, as if implying that to some extent that he's all just talk lmao.
I don't really agree that Geordo doesn't care about what Katarina feels at all, in fact his inner dilemma in the novels is that he doesn't know what to do because in every step he takes he might do something that could ruin his image in Katarina's eyes, be it pursuing or abandoning the throne or looking like a monster in front of her. He even halts his plans to make advances towards her during the Keith Kidnapping Arc, but threw it away because he knows how much finding Keith means to Katarina. He puts what Katarina want and doesn't want as his priority, so when what she feels is unclear that's when he acts on his own intuition. The only reason Geordo feels so confident to advance towards her sexually is because Katarina never rejected him before (because she doesn't know what they mean, and all of this is for the sake of simply making her aware in the first place)
I'm not trying to make anyone think that one has to read all the books in order to understand him, I think the manga does okay at conveying his feelings too. The anime really prioritizes on making him look "sexy" for the japanese female audience, so anything he does is sprinkled with spice whether we like it or not.
I'm sorry if it seems like I'm overanalyzing all his actions just to justify them, everyone has the right to be uncomfortable with his advances if it seems too much for you. It's just that his actions, while over the top and unnecessary, are done to please the type of audience that hamefura caters to, and it's hard to take him completely seriously when the story doesn't either in my opinion. Doesn't mean he's right or that any of it is okay, but it's his method of trying to put a dent on Katarina's bakashield. When you're in a race versus your friends who Katarina all loves equally, he's gonna use whatever card he can get in order to win.
I like Geordo; I like how much of his feelings for Katarina forces him to reexamine himself and realize that he isn't a perfect prince at all, that he has lots of problems and flaws that he needs to work out in order to be someone worthy of her. I like the way he falls more and more in love with her in every interaction they have because he finally gets to have a genuinely and caring interaction with someone. I like how Geordo wants to do better and be better for Katarina and the people around him, and he wants to be able to thank Katarina directly for that through being able to show his love. I like that despite how much of a chad he acts in front of her, he's a blushing mess at the thought of Katarina returning his feelings. I find it funny when his "sexual advances" fails and gets thwarted because he's trying them on the densest person and most protected lady to ever live. I like how Geordo is so head-over-heals in love with her and how much comfort and warmth she brings to him by simply being her caring and bubbly self.
I guess it's just a matter of different perspectives. If you find him unlikeable or a villain, then you do you. I try to explain why I personally excuse his actions, but I know it wont fly with everyone. We all see each character differently and absorb the material in different ways. In fact it's probably a bad idea for me to defend him with material that isn't the anime nor manga yet lmao. I mean I'm not that much of a fan of Mary anymore, and I'm kinda scared and wary of her, but I know people don't see her the way I do and I'm okay with that.
Maybe its just me, who is the kind of person who just goes with the flow and doesn't think too hard because it's all fiction anyways
It's hard to tell all this from simply watching the anime, so I laid all my feelings down in hopes that someone out there would understand why I like him so much.
Thank you for the ask, you can ask more questions or call me out if I said anything insensitive or wrong, I know a lot of this is me overanalyzing things which might look like I'm jus stretching. As someone who is aware of the things to come in Hamefura X, I can say that I am both excited and nervous as to how everyone will react for the direction of Geordo's character.
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Alright it's Vincenzo and fire meta time! I dont know if this is super obvious and I'm just repeating what everyone's already picked up on, but Solar's version of Adrenaline gave me the push I needed to write down my thoughts (Italian version >>> tho imo) so here goes. I apologize in advance for the length sflds this is my thoughts straight to the page so it went on for a while :')
We associate Vincenzo with fire almost from the first episode. From the get go, the first major thing we see Vincenzo do is burn down a vineyard, pretty nonchalantly. Then we establish his habit of fiddling with lighters, and to round it off he blows up Paolo's car. The fire imagery is there from the beginning. When he loses his temper he's fiery, he fights fire with fire, his birthday is on bonfire night, it's a pretty clear link. Yet, interestingly enough, as we get to know more about his character, it appears like he is mostly a very level-headed person when it comes to high stakes conflict, as seen in the court scenes and in scenes like the ones where he threatens Choi Myung Hee. In fact, his cool-headedness is one of the things Cha Young lists as one of his charms in ep8. He doesn't come off as hot-blooded as quickly as a character like Father Kim in The Fiery Priest, for example.
Besides the times when he's just annoyed angry over things like being robbed or the drama with Geumga plaza, we see him get seriously angry only over the emotions from seeing his mom (he yells at her, he lights a cigarette) over Hong Yu Chan's insistence on pursuing Babel despite the danger (he raises his voice on multiple occasions), and over the death of HYC (he throws a wine glass and then he has syringes stuck in JHS's pillow and he organizes the warehouse arson). Note how most of these things are accompanied by some use of a lighter (more on that later). Yet, times when he yells and cusses in Italian aside, in doing most of these things he's not very visibly aggressive? If you get what I mean. He's still almost cold/mechanical in the way he goes about it. Like the result of his anger is an inevitability; if you light a lighter you start a fire. This is seen when he gets angry over the vineyard owner's attitude (he doesn't lose his cool, he just burns down the vineyard) and Paolo's attempted assassination of him (he shoots the assassins calmly, he blows up Paolo's car and threatens him, he leaves italy). Even the actual act of the Babel arson isn't very fiery on Vincenzo's part.
The thing about Vincenzo though is that, much like the lighters which he constantly opens and closes without lighting, most of the time he's not always very openly fiery. As mentioned above the only times we see Vincenzo actually light a lighter are when he's truly angry. He opens and closes them to calm down, but occasionally instead of calming down he lights the lighter, and he burns down a vineyard or lights a cigarette. He says in ep 2 that being weak and feeling helpless make him angry, and perhaps that's why opening and closing a lighter helps him calm down, because it reminds him that he can do something, he can light the lighter if he chooses to.
A lot of his anger/bitterness goes back to him being abandoned by his mother, and we see that it's still a big deal for him because some of only times we see him lose a grip on his anger and have outbursts of emotion are in scenes related to his mom (when he comes to tell her no one will come visit her now, when she doesn't want to get treatment, early on when he's in the courtroom for her case). We see that momentary crack in his level-headed personality when it comes to his mom, and the cracks get larger the worse her condition gets. (I wonder how it will go if she dies? It seems like she might. Perhaps that'll push him over the edge). Being someone who doesn't like feeling helpless, the scenes where he's angry about his mom become all the more impactful because there's nothing he can do, he can light the lighter but all he can do with that light is light a cigarette. Notably we also see him get emotionally angry/agitated worrying over Hong Yu Chan's perseverance in fighting Babel, perhaps since he also comes to see HYC as a mentor/father figure. He was helpless again, he couldn't do anything to help his mother's sentence and he couldn't do anything to stop HYC and his eventual death. In all this we see that there is a marked contrast between fiery emotionally engaged angry Vincenzo and cool-headed business minded angry Vincenzo. The more dangerous of the two is arguably cool-headed angry Vincenzo, because this is the mode he enters after the initial burst of emotional anger, after which he hatches and executes another high stakes plan.
Which brings me back to Adrenaline. The lyric about wanting to leave so as not to cause hurt is there in both versions, but in english it's "Fire, rising up (to) higher, I'm burning up it's dire, I don't wanna hurt you so leave" (According to this translation of the Italian version the equivalent part in that one is "The fire (is) rising upwards, I'm burning slowly, Please leave me, I don't want to hurt you", more or less the same thing). At this point we're aware that Vincenzo has a lot of unresolved internal anger, but we aren't clear on the full extent of it yet. He effectively hides it behind smooth words and well thought out plans, but that doesn't change the fact that he's "burning up" with all that pent up anger (over his mother mostly, and now also over Babel to an extent), which is also "rising up" as he's reminded of his past and faces new challenges. It's only a matter of time until he hits burnout, or an explosion of some kind. If you think of it like a water balloon (idk i'm bad at coming up with metaphors), over time more and more things (abandonement issues, having to kill so many people, having to leave italy, frustrations surrounding the tenants, BabelTM, the death of Hong Yu Chan, meeting his mother again, hearing the truth about his mother's case first hand, his mother potentially dying, and so on) fill it up until bANG, it's too much and it bursts. Pent up anger is a ticking time bomb, and it's anyone's guess when he'll stop clicking the lighter open and shut and set the world on fire again. We'll either have Vincenzo overcome and learn to let go of his anger, or we'll get to see him truly snap and cause some real damage to his status as a non-fugitive and/or his relationships. Maybe some combination of both.
Interestingly though, we haven't seen him get directly really angry at Cha Young before, though they were very passive agressive in the earlier eps. This shows a difference in the way he sees her now and the way he saw Hong Yu Chan, she's willing to get her hands dirty and so even though they're still fighting the same Babel he's not as worried about her safety because she's a lot like him. And yet, assuming that Adrenaline is from Vincenzo's POV and the person he doesn't want to hurt is Cha Young, we can infer that Vincenzo knows full well the potential danger of his pent up anger, and that he cares enough about Cha Young to want to still keep a certain distance from her so as not to hurt her in the event that said anger leads to bigger trouble/more illegal high stakes plans/things she wouldn't approve of i.e hurting or killing people. We see that he is drawn to her (very obviously), and that he likes her (VERY OBVIOUSLY), but he doesn't want to burn her, hence scenes like the "villains don't deserve to love/love requires qualifications" scene. Fire can warm people, it can be a force for 'good' (for example, the revenge on Babel for its victims and Cha Young via the arson), but it can also destroy people. It looks like it is definitely eating away at Vincenzo, and he doesn't want the fire consuming him to burn those close to him.
He's done things that may or may not haunt him, and he may not deem himself worthy of love because of those things, but deep down I do think he wants to be loved, to have a home, to let go of his anger and be allowed to live without it. His initial plan was to get filthy rich and then run away, but like the monk said, unless he faces his anger, it'll follow him wherever he goes. Forests burn down and regrow naturally, but unnatural forest fires are hella destructive, it's all about how he handles his anger. Harness it and overcome it, or let it control him and eventually destroy him. Rn it looks like it torments him but he uses it to his advantage, as a driving force, but how sustainable is that? Each of the arsons are preceded by gasoline, what will serve as Vincenzo's gasoline and what will be the spark that sets him alight? Will Cha Young be the bucket of water that settles Vincenzo's flames, or will she be the bucket of gasoline that burns him to the ground? We'll just have to wait and see.
Pls interact it took me like a week to write all this :')
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Right? Hux is my go-to example of the mess that happened because of the back and forth between two directors because the change between ep7 and ep8, and then whatever the fuck was ep9, that was uuh... It was. Like the bar wasn't even that high but they really managed to fuck it up. Of course they weren't going to detail his comics backstory and give him 20 minutes of screen time but some vague respect for the characters y'know? The minute of screen time and then Pryde shoots him and he dies off screen, like - come ON. The mere thing where he immediately becomes a traitor when that's the last decision he would make?? I can't write to save my life and I'm terrible at characterisation but even I could tell you that's bad! Unless you want to make it canon he and Kylo had a thing to justify the change of heart, but we all know what a bunch of cowards Disney is. ANYWAY you're right he deserved so much better
Okay I have so much to say about this topic, I literally waited until this morning to answer this so I could try to get my words as clear as possible lmao. Thanks for your patience Ram, and thanks for the ask <3
Before we begin though, this is all my opinion please dont flame me lmao
I can understand that having multiple directors over the course of a trilogy will be difficult, especially in the case of the sequels, where the story and vision for the trilogy was not clearly defined at the beginning. (We've all seen the meme of that one interview with the one director who was like, paraphrased, making it up as he went along). But considering this is d*sney, one of the largest corporations in the world failing this much on a massive franchise that they decided to buy? Thats unexcusable. They clearly were not prepared for these movies, and its really unfortunate because there is a lot of good that can be said of the sequels.
Now, im sure after the prequels being what they were we shouldn't have expected too much. (I say that like the prequels aren't my favorite trilogy of the three). Im sure we're all familiar with the prequels hate, and I honestly have to say I'm not sure how much of that is deserved and how much of it is simply a fandom who had their headcanons squashed. Someone older than me, whos been around long enough to see that fallout, might have better insight. So perhaps we should have expected that the sequels would fall short of our expectations, right? Not necessarily, actually.
Im not sure about you, (or anyone reading this), but I remember finding TFA an excellent movie, as did the majority of tumblr at the time. It wasn't until the reddit bros and the more inflammatory people in fandom started to recognize the potential of the reylo ship, along with the release of TLJ that the sequels started getting shit. There was also definitely a massive shift in tone from TFA to TLJ, which you totally noticed, particularly in Hux's story arc.
Then the story started to not make sense entirely, up until we get to TRoS, where,,,,, well,,,, nothing makes sense in the context of the rest of the franchise. There was clearly a lack of cohesion, but you also nailed it with it being a disrespect of the characters and a disrespect of the franchise as a whole. Theres definitely been a push in the last 5-10 years to push out more and more mediocre movies that, as long as they hold the name "Marvel" or "Disney" or "Star Wars," will still do well. And there's definitely a point to that, ofc, considering the sequels got the SW fandom so much more interest, to the point of reylo being one of the top ships on tumblr for the last several years.
So how does this all boil down to how we analyze Armitage Hux? Well, quite frankly, the movies didn't offer enough of his story to really say anything about him. Disrepect for the character aside, there's also been a recent (as in, the last 15-20 years) push to leave "unnecessary" details out of the source material. The first example to come to mind is JK Rowling's tweeting and interviews saying that Dumbledore is gay, despite nothing in any of the books or movies saying so. That d*sney has Hux's entire backstory, of which there isn't very much, confined to the comics, shouldn't be entirely surprising.
But it also opens up issues, such as, how did this character, who we see for less than 20 minutes over over course of a 6+ hour trilogy, end up betraying the very thing he is said to have helped build? We as fans can make up theories all we like, but there is never a canon explanation beyond "Kylo Ren must lose," which, is the dumbest reason and im glad we can all agree on that. The only real logic that can come from that is that yes, he and Kylo had a failed thing, becuase this is exactly the petty shit both of them would do.
And when I say he deserved better, its not just the treatment of him being a traitor. Everything with Brendol abusing him from such a young age, to being a child soldier on Jakku, to being born into a war that should have ended with Palp's death; all of that could have made a dynamic, fascinating villain that we could have all rooted for when he betrayed the First Order. Instead we got,,, this. And its really quite pathetic, to see this character that has been slowly fleshed out since the sequels came out through the comics, with the knowledge that unless one happens to be aware of the comics they will have no idea the depths of trauma this character has been through.
Now, im just a fanfiction writer. I know nothing about movies. But I have to say, the sequels did not have anything close to a consistent characterization, especially in regards to Hux and Kylo towards the end. Again, lack of cohesion, disrespect of the characters and the franchise, etc. But it really is incredibly frustrating to know that us fans put more effort into our backstories for these characters than d*sney themselves. And we can all joke around and say we'd be better at making the movies than d*sney and George Lucas and etc, but yknow, maybe we're a little right about that.
All of this to say, im incredibly disappointed in d*sney's approach to the sequels, especially in regards to Hux, but the entire trilogy really suffered from this.
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Riverdale S5 Ep8 Thoughts *Spoilers*
Thoughts under cut to keep tag smooth :)
- NOT KEVIN CHEATING ON FFANGS… so how exactly did they stay together for seven years I—FANGS DESERVES SO MUCH BETTER
- Betty and Archie 🥺🥺 this scene was a so much cuter than I expected
- Snarky!Jughead normally would have annoyed me but thankfully that wasn’t the case this time
- Oh yeah Juniper and Dagwood I forgot all about them tbh
- Imagine having a hot ass boyfriend like Fangs and CHEATING oh him. Oh… open relationship. Oh. Um. Sorry for the judging… anyways Fangs and Reggie when?
- Veronica hiring Archie yay besties!! Not her looking at his lips though...
- JERONICA INTERACTION AND AWKWARD BUGHEAD YAH
- Everyone saw this coming, Toni being the surrogate for Kangs. The engagement wasn’t something I thought about but it’s still not surprising.
- What is this over the top anger from Cheryl?? Toni not being able to have children the older she gets :(
- LUCY HALE??? Katy Keene is in this ep?
- BETTY IS GONNA TELL KEVIN!!!! Lol him being like “god please tell me we’re not gonna have to go through you and Jughead again ugh” same Kevin
- Jughead seeing the alien mmhm interesting
- “Or are you too distracted by my beauty?” okay Ms. Marble we know you’re absolutely gorgeous
- I don’t get why Cheryl’s acting like this, like Toni’s pregnancy has anything to do with her
- Chad being spotted with an heiress lol okay loser you have VERONICA FUCKING LODGE
- Not Veronica using Archie to make Chad jealous… no we don’t want Varchie!!!!!!!!!!
- So how exactly is a key party fucking with Toni?? Cheryl that makes no sense lol but whatever
- Betty’s nightmare and her calling the one person who’s ever made her feel safe UGHHH FUCK Barchie has me in a chokehold 🥺😭
- Is Archie gonna realize Betty is similar to him
- WE! DO! NOT! WANT! VARCHIE!!!! They’re not good for each other and having Archie suddenly out of nowhere talking about how there may still be something still between him and Veronica… because… she wanted a selfie….??? God fuck these writers they’re so!?!?! but honestly as long as Bughead stays dead idc they’re the biggest reason this show sucked ass
- How can Fangs not realize why Kevin is saying all of that… like isn’t it sus to him lol
- Jabitha muah
- Wait Jughead’s done DRUGS? Bro-
- I know we won’t get it bc they all hate Jeronica’s but I wish we could get a Jeronica key party kiss smh
- Veronica looks so good but I hate her using Archie like that
- Chad’s on a train back to Riverdale for a key party lol
- It’s so weird that Cheryl invites Reggie bc currently he’s their enemy rn
- Kevin and Betty actually talking like friends again <3
- Wow Fangs brought the guy Kevin was with in the beginning who’s NOT surprised? Also Minerva scheming with Cheryl is so…? sigh literally why
- Wow Veronica got Archie’s keys, who’s NOT surprised?
- Chad going to a key party to not let Veronica key party… lol what a loser.
- Rules are it has to be consenting but then she’d be okay with Jughead’s clearly drunk ass choosing which negates that… mmhm
- The Reggie and Fangs kiss was highkey very exciting and I wasn’t expecting it… You know you fucked up with writing a relationship when one kiss (Reggie and Fangs) was more exciting than the entire relationship…
- This Choni scene feels straight out of a horror movie… Toni feels trapped with Cheryl, how are they going to be able to get past this?? 😭😭���
- Jabitha is so cute. Like it still annoys me that they’re literally what Jeronica would have been if given the chance and everyone who made fun of Jeronica’s is loving them
- Reggie being 100% straight </3 we can’t hc his sexuality anymore there goes my bi/pan brothers Reggie and Sweet Pea
- God poor Fangs…
- “I still have feelings for Veronica” man fuck this show we don’t want Varchie
- “We should make sense” Betty…??? you literally do you make sense than ANYONE
- But both of them thinking their darkness will eat each other up gives me hope though
- It’s annoying that Betty keeps calling Barchie an escape when that’s literally what her and Jughead solely were
- Tabitha’s toilet is so cute wtf
- Minerva and Cheryl’s kiss is so cute though, so aesthetically pleasing
- Veronica divorcing Chad as she should, finally. Though, to randomly have feelings for Archie again is not it smh
- Anyways, I’ll always manifest Jeronica Barchie endgame
- God they made Veronica so awful this episode I hate it sm
- This VA kiss wasn’t even as cute or hot like when they were teenagers lol sucks that they don’t have anything going for them anymore
- Stop potentially killing Polly </3
- What was that preview……….
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