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Q: Do you think Typhon was an abusive father? He says he was a 'third rate dad' but doesnt explain why. Randy said he refused to touch Tyreen after Leda died. His reaction to killing his kids could just be bad writing. Troy said he thought he was a freak, but that could be Troy's insecurity. Our only evidence is what Typhon and the Twins say, but Typhon is suspicious already and the Twins are shown to be manipulative. Was Typhon a clueless father trying his best or an abusive asshat?
Hooo boy. Been sitting on this one a while. In we go. 
Was Typhon DeLeon an abusive father: A nerd essay by me, cause I’m a sad fuck.
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Yeah. He was. 100%. Absolutely.
Just not intentionally, and for reasons that were coming from good places. I can’t stand Typhon but I’m going to remain relatively unbiased in this bar insulting him as much as possible cause fuck Typhon. Eww.
Bl3 left us with shockingly little information to go on when it came to figuring out how all this went down, how Typhon’s upbringing or lack thereof of the Calypso Twins warped them into the broken monstrous Gods they became, and if he was actually really to blame or not.
We have four main players in this puzzle. Typhon, Troy, and Tyreen DeLeon, and Leda Calypso. One of these characters didn’t get a single line of dialogue and was reduced to being a fucktoy attached to a womb, so poor Leda is out of the equation.
We have a third party write up on Typhon released after the game containing a lot of content that was never in the game, including some of his logic behind the choices he made here.
And finally, we have the information given to us by the three remaining characters. Typhon, and the Calypso Twins.
Breaking this down further, we have two characters at odds with each other, Typhon and Tyreen. 
Tyreen hates Typhon. Hates. It can’t be stressed enough that the only motivation the writers left in the game for poor Ty, was how much she hated her father. Tyreen however, is also a grade A dramaqueen and someone who I cannot bring myself to trust completely when it comes to her describing how Typh treated the twins. I am positive everything she says is based on a truth, but how much of it has been over exaggerated and built on after years of brooding and hatred is up to us to work out, and that’s quite hard to do.
Typhon on the other hand, is a grade A bullshitter. We learn this through his logs and through actually just *talking* to the vile little prick. He speaks in anecdotes, he relies on constantly retelling stories to communicate. I wouldn’t trust the little shit as far as I could throw him. He constantly exaggerates his accolades, his sexual prowess, likely how much his wife was infatuated with him, his skill in adventuring, everything, but he still confirms he was not a good father, so that really says a lot. 
Finally, we have the only person I actually trust when it comes to their opinion on this. Finally, we have Troy.
Something I’ve noticed after chatting with friends about this and covering old content, is how little Troy Calypso ever seems to lie or bullshit. He is shockingly honest, it’s a real surprise compared to Tyreen. He’s truthful to the vault hunters, his emotions are pretty much worn on his sleeve around Ty, and even in dialogue with the likes of Katagawa he is direct and not nearly as “flowery” in his communication as she is. 
He hates the majority of the COV followers and shows a complete lack of coddling them, and he does the same with the VH and raiders. He’s direct in his communication in general, especially when alone and out of persona.
Troy gives us more backstory about the twin’s family life than literally any other point in the game does, and he explains it genuinely, 1:1 and privately to the VH over echocom. He has no reason to lie. There is no gain in this for him, there is no grounds for me to think anything he said was false because lying in this situation wouldn’t match his established character. 
Troy does not hate Typhon. 
Troy did not want to leave Nekrotafeyo. 
Troy did not want to leave his father.
The info Troy shares with us is that Typhon couldn’t let Ty out of his sight after Leda had her “accident”, and he was overbearing in his worry for her. Troy was sidelined as a child and felt that his father just saw him as a freak while doting (unwantedly it seems) on Tyreen. This may not have been directly the case, but again, there is no reason to think Troy is making this up. He doesn’t make up things like this for pity, he actually seems quite averse to looking for pity in general.
Tyreen says Typhon kept them in a cage, that he was afraid the Bandits in the universe would tear them apart, and instead held them prisoner. This is semi factual, but definitely blown out of proportion because again, Troy doesn’t feel this way. Typhon (according to the additional info in the writeup I linked) was terrified of what corporations would do to twin Sirens -considering one is male-, and that’s a really valid concern.
They would absolutely be hunted by the likes of Hyperion if Jack hadn’t been balls deep in his mad rush for the warrior at the time. Typh wouldn’t let them leave home based on this, and while I can understand his logic, there are three main things to consider here:
Troy and Tyreen both seem to think Typhon thought Ty was a monster and that was the reason they were not allowed leave. That is fucked. There is no way they both came up with this out of the blue, and Typhon must have at some point said something or acted in a way to imply this was the reason. That is horrific. That is beyond abusive to say to children, and it was definitely a factor in how warped their mentality towards themselves over time became.
The twins were so terrified of Typhon finding the ship parts Troy was working on and destroying them, that they hid them inside their mothers grave. Again. This is horrific. This is not something young adults who aren’t abused would consider doing. Troy has never alluded to hating Typhon and still agreed with Tyreen this needed to be done. The fear there is palpable, this is not the behavior of young adults who’s relationship with a parent is healthy.
The twins and Typhon had a complete lack of trust between them. A family with this level of distrust has encountered abuse at some point. Typhon was so distrusting of his near adult children ( the twins sounded very late teens - early twenties on Nekro ) that he refused to allow them to have any semblance of a life. He refused to let them be free, because he so feared they would either be incapable of caring for themselves, or would hurt others. The twins distrusted their father so much that they had to resort to hiding their escape means from him. Even Troy, who thought once the ship was complete they’d be taking Typhon with them, didn’t trust him enough to let him know what he was working on. They were afraid of what their father would do if he found out. 
This dynamic drips abuse. If it was just Tyreen telling this information to us, I’d find it hard to take as factual as I said earlier, it would feel blown out of proportion, but Troy telling us, and the echologs existing and backing it up? Well, it’s not a lie. It did happen.
The final piece for me is how Typhon responded to Troy being dead. 
He couldn’t have fucking cared less. He did not give a flying shit. 
The one person who had shown any regret towards leaving him, who had cared about him, and Typhon didn’t bat an eyelid that he was dead. He gives an “Ah well he was a monster anyway lol” response, then immediately starts trying to baby talk his wittle girl, his ickle Starlight. It’s gross. It was vile.
It really showed where his value lay and had always lay, and confirmed Troy had been telling the truth when he’d awkwardly tried to explain how Typhon had just always seen him as a freak, while overly doting on Tyreen to the point of smothering her. 
He was a terrible father, and while his abuse came from a place of concern and love, it was absolutely abuse. 
Had he so much as tried to find his kids, had he cared about them an iota more then sitting on a dead planet jacking off to memories of his wife for nearly a decade, the twins might have stood a chance. They might have been able to be happy.
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reizor · 3 years
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here she is, doing what she always does, privately staying after to watch kaisei practice. perhaps this is her working up the courage to walk up to the him to simply just talk. ah well, that is what she wants at least. but she is too timid & shy to truly do that on her own, not unless she is forced to do so. it is hard for ko. especially since she doesn't want to come off as like everybody else who's approached him about this particular issue of his.
true to what everybody else has said to him, he pushes himself too hard. & she worries; just like the others. but unlike all those before her - where they make some attempt at telling him to stop & only receiving some some abrasive reply in return that ends up with the concerned friend or peer leaving - she simply lets him be. ko knows better that to stop him. he's too stubborn to stop. instead, she stays in the sidelines & stays when everybody else leaves. that way, he's never alone. so that maybe one day, he can see that sometimes its okay to admit he needs help.
so when the usual sounds of kaisei's practicing comes to an abrupt stop with the sound of him dropping to the ground, she can't help but the get startled. her own gasp muffled & covered with lithe hands, as her body sits at the edge of her seat to look at the fallen male. there is a moment of hesitation, before she realizes that he had gone & rendered himself unconscious this time. so it is only natural that she's immediately up & out of her seat.
she's flying down the bleachers at a fast but graceful pace - even skipping some to the point where she is bounding down them. she doesnt immediately go to him though. instead she opts to retrieve a cold towel, and perhaps some first aide. but it doesnt take long before she comes back kaisei. still downed, she struggles to move him, maybe even sit him up, but she still tries anyway. when she knows she's not really getting anywhere, ko, at the very least, rolls him to his back, splashes some cold water in his face before setting the towel on his forehead.
" u - u m... kaisei ...? h - hey ... can you please s - sit up ... "
he pretends he doesn't see. it's caustic and seething, a sort of decay that putrefied all he had touched, an inescapable guilt, wreathing around his throat like a noose. when he pretends he doesn't see he can avoid their uninvited concern, their berating voices - as if he were a child who was out of line. they could not hope to understand, in spite of these dull aches ... compared to the nugatory existence he had been sentenced this was catharsis.
there had once been a dream, kaisei doesn't recall it in clarity, perhaps because it was never his to begin with. his brother had spoken so avidly about the sport, about his team-mates and the feats they would achieve. for kaisei, who was impartial to all, the embers of verve were something he had never felt and it was something he could never forget; as if for a moment his brother's passion was mirrored in his own heart. that was why a world blanched to melancholy - a world without his brother and that dream ... had to be rectified.
he can always tell when he's nearing a limit, muscles that quiver in anticipation, joints that groan in protest as he would crouch and then spring. he chooses to ignore it, surpass your limits, it was a saying he had kept close to his heart, for kaisei, better than anyone, knew the distance between himself - and his brother. but it comes too fast, the ground rushing up to meet him, sneakers wail against the gymnasium floor, his head - spins.
the darkness ... somewhere inwardly he's cursing himself, frustrated at his own weakness. but he's not permitted to wallow for long, the water jerking him back to consciousness. coughing, spluttering, he blinks, wearily, in transience uncertain of where - who he was looking at. somnolently he raises his hand to his forehead, allowing his vision to focus.
" oh .. hey .. it's you..." is it rude that he doesn't know her name ? he's seen her face before, recognises it in passing but ... cannot put a name to it.
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2ugars · 5 years
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ੈ♡˳ high school senior!hyuck + soccer player!hyuck all in one!!!!
ps - the high school that i’m basing off their high school is mine, which is an international american curriculum high school that has like . a very small hs population.
a lovable and troublemaker senior who interacts quite a lot w his underclassmen — a bit too much than what’s probably considered necessary
he’s always been loud n friendly even before senior year but for some reason it? sky-rocketed?
like
u would expect seniors to stop tryin to make friends n stuff because they’ll have to leave for college at the end of the year nyways……
but NOPE
donghyuck’s a whole other species so he. .
makes friends .
A Lot of them
some of them r accidental on the other person’s part
there was this one time where hyuck forgot his pencil case and he was asking around
and some guy in junior year was like Here u go!!!!give it back to me after school or smth :)
as promised,, donghyuck Forgot to give it to him after school but he DID give it back the morning after w a bunch of teabags
donghyuck: some tea 2 relieve ur stress! also !!!!!!!      U r invited to my bday party :)
donghyuck: and my future wedding
donghyuck :D
junior: Whjat
hyuck’s that one senior who somehow knows everyone’s names?
he’s crazy
the type to say people’s names whenever he converses w them
he does it to seem closer nd to put them at ease? in a way?
has a unique handshake w 75% of the high school population
how does he remember all of that
muscle memory???????? who knows at this point
someone raised their hand during class and he flinched in his seat because he Really Wanted To Do The Handshake w them
he wouldn’t call it popularity, how a lot of people know him
“they’re just . familiar w me,” he would tell jeno
“that’s called popularity u idiot”
“n .   No”
it takes him a while to let it sink in that he IS popular but he still doesnt like to call himself that since he thinks it’s awkward nd a lil off-puttinng
so he just calls himself annoying in the end lmao
“i realized,” he rells renjun one day, “that i’m most likely the most annoying senior ever. more than mark was, even, and that’s saying a lot!”
renjun hums to show that he’s listening when, really, he’s not
“it’s the perfect plan,” donghyuck continues. “i get all of them to love me this year, and when i leave, the entire secondary school will have no choice but to mourn my absence—“
“was that your plan all along?” jaemin interjects with a laugh
“of course not. the kids love me without me having to try much. but it’s a pretty good plan! i could pass it down to chenle, or something.”
renjun later tells chenle to continue to never listen to hyuck
chenle, although puzzled, agrees
hyuck’s in varsity boys’ soccer as midfield
what u would call a hidden leader
was originally appointed captain by the coach but turned it down almost immediately
Hates disappointing people
especially people who are depending and relying on him
he isn’t sure he’s ready for that much weight, being an official leader
however when the ream found out he turned down the position of captain, they made him vice-captain next to sunwoo
donghyuck: “i won but at what cost”
mood maker of the team
screams a lot on the bench in the times when he’s pulled from the field to take a break
“U GO FELIX”
“LOOK AT MY BOYS GO!?!??!?!?!”
“OOF them THIGHS”
“JEEOOONNGGGIIIIINNNN that’s my little boy. Wow. i think im tearing up”
does this not only in games but in practices !
hes quite a chatterbox
please shut him up
i’m kidding please don’t
“look alive guys!!!!!! last one to run ladders buys sushi!!!!!!”
usually ends upbeing the last one
he says he does it on purpose
he’s lying he hates running ladders
“SPREAD OUT I NEED YALL LIKE A SMOOTH LAYER OF BUTTER ON TOAST! THAT MEANS NOT CLUMPED!”
he joked that if it weren’t for soccer, he’d be on the cheer squad
won mvp in junior year and the sportsmanship award for three years running
NOT ONLY DID HE WIN SOME SPORTS AWARDS.......
HHE ALSO WO N!!!!!!!!the hearts of the middle school boys’ soccer team
it’s because he’s the coach assistant during the ms soccer season
he started coaching in his freshman year
surprisingly gets shy when the boys, in all their wide-eyed awe n wonder, call him Coach Donghyuck
“nnnnnnnNNNNNOOOO O OO O  Dont say that call me hyuck instead omg plwase.  NO SIAN DONT CALL ME COACJ NO”
to hyuck’s confusion and jaemin’s pure delight, hyuck’s managed to steal the hearts of the middle school girls’ soccer team as well??
he took some chopsticks from the school cafeteria because he forgot his own at home
when he finished eating lunch, he didn’t want to go all the way to the tray drop-off since it was so far from where he and the dreamies sat
and renjun’s being more annoying than usual that day and is purposely making hyuck to hurry the HECK up so that they could do some modern language homework
of course, hyuck is lazy and doesn’t want to walk that far, renjun, gosh dan g it
so he goes to a middle school girl he’s had a few random, short convos with in his bus and... .. .
“hi louise! is it okay if i place my chopsticks here for you to take it to the tray drop-off?”
the young girl startles but at the sight of donghyuck, she smiles brightly. “oh, hi, coach!”
her greeting sparks up excited hi’s and hello’s from the other girls that donghyuck acknowledges with a smile of his own
(he doesn’t bother correcting them about the title)
(he knows that no matter how many times he’ll gently scold them into not calling him coach, they’ll still persist without fail)
(so he takes it in, albeit reluctantly and with his ears turning red every time)
“that’s totally fine!” louise says.
“thaaank you!” he sings, placing it neatly beside her plate. “you’re the best. see you in practice!”
and honestly
the reason why the middle school girls love him is because he stayed after school to study one day
and when he was done, he watched one of their games that was on the home field
he was on the sidelines shouting encouragements and generally just . Screaming his lungs out
you could probably imagine how the opponent team wa s thoroughly confused as to who the boy was and why exactly he was shrieking bloody murder
after the team won, he walked over to their team huddle and, after asking permission of their coach, gave them high fives and praised them and gave them light-hearted pointers before giving them a huge HUGE smile
yeah
apparently that’s enough to have a whole armada of boys and girls willingly take your chopsticks to the tray drop-off after lunch
he likes to brag about it every once in a while
anyways hyuck is just
a really good and nice senior
who the underclassmen respect and appreciate lots
when the seniors graduate, hyuck hides his tears by laughing so much
like it’s kind of concerning how much he’s laughing renjun thinks the boy’s going to choke on his spit at this point hyuck please sto p laughign
NOTHING FUNNY IS EVEN HAPPENING HYUKC PELAS E
like hyuck started laughing when the closing speech of the graduation ceremony begun
the boys thought it was because he probably farted or heard someone else fart since he was trying so hard not to make a sound
liek all you could hear coming from hyuck was wheezing and little hiccups
and jaemin, who was sitting next to him, had to pinch hyuck’s thigh constantly with how violently he’s shaking with silent laughter
hyuck was covering his face the entire time and jaemin, widely grinning, finally pried his hands away
only his grin slowly wavered when he saw the other boy’s face
jaemin: “oh”
renjun: “what do you mean oh? the teachers are looking at us, we might not even be able to graduate if he keeps laughing, shut him u—”
there wwere tears staining hyuck’s cheeks and snot was basically running down his nose and he was laughing like a maniac and oh no, he’s losing it, renjun get tissues, what the actual HEK
the closing speech ended with a new tissue box emptied and a tissue rolled up into hyuck’s left nostril
the others were crying, too, but they were smiling
jisung approached them with wet eyes and the same awkward stance where he keeps his hands clasped in front of him and hyuck tearfully joked that he looked like That Meme and made jisung cry instead of laugh and chenle started laughing because of it but ended up crying too
HAHAHAH THE SE BBOYS BEIN CRYBABIES (imcrygin too at the thought of this i love ht em. s o mmmcuhhchl)
hyuck couldn’t help but pull the dreamies into a hug before he gets swallowed by their arms, affections, and surprisingly, their smooches
“ABOUT TIME Y’ALL PUNKS RETURNED MY LOVE”
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