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shortpplfedup · 3 years
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Let's be clear: just because this ep was heartbreaking and rage-inducing doesn't mean that it wasn't excellent. The writing is phenomenal and the acting is superb. There is no character here behaving out of character, that's why this is so WRETCHED.
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patandpran · 3 years
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IPYTM Color Analysis ep. 3:
Third year starts with Teh in rehearsal, struggling to emotionally connect to the content of the play that Jai has written. As if symbolizing a ghost from his past, Dream wears purple which is reminiscent of the color that Teh’s ex was known for. This could signify just how withdrawn and disconnected from the peice he is.
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Teh is given a logbook to write down his thoughts about the show and with red in the background, as if his feelings for Oh-aew are “behind” him, he writes with a blue pen and admits that he’s unsure of his feelings for Oh. The use of the blue pen displays just how selfishly Teh is operating in this episode.
Oh-aew shares his worries about his relationship with Teh with his friend group which now all sport of a bit of red as if to symbolize their support for Oh. The hearts on Q’s shirt could even foreshadow a future romance between the two.
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Teh, Oh-aew and Jai travel up a blue and red staircase and have a conversation where Jai ends up in the middle of them. This is a red herring for the fact that Jai will later be ‘between them’.
At a later rehearsal, Jai encourages Teh to think about his first time having sex but Teh struggles to remember it. Dream wears a red shirt as if she is attempting to trigger Teh’s memory.
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Teh is only able to recall glimpses of his and Oh’s first time together and the memory is bathed in the color blue, despite how little Teh remembers of it.
Oh-aew works hard on the poster for Jai’s show, using a combination of red and blues to show just how invested he still is in their relationship.
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After rehearsal, Teh and Jai go to a restaurant and Jai encourages Teh to pay attention to his senses. He references the red lights outside but instead of them triggering a memory of Oh-Aew, Teh focuses on Jai and lies to Oh-aew about where he is.
Based on Jai’s suggestion, Teh returns to Oh-Aew’s apartment to remake the memory of his first time with Oh. But before he goes to see Oh, Teh swims almost as if he trying to rekindle his feelings for Oh-aew as the first time they connected was Under the water.
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Teh goes to Oh-aew and the shots alternate between them engaging currently in sex and mirrors their first time together, both bathed in the color blue.
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In the morning, Teh and Oh-aew hold each other and reminisce about their relationship. This is the first time in a long time we have seen them happy and in the sunshine. Interestingly, Oh is also wearing the ‘sun set’ shirt as if he is connecting back to their love in season 1.
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Teh returns to rehearsal and wears the same shirt that he did when he and Oh-aew first had sex. He looks himself in the mirror during the acting exercise as if he’s decide to ‘stop his feelings’ for Oh immediately.
As Jai and Teh spend time together drinking the plum wine, Oh-aew’s call is ignored as it sits in Teh’s black backpack. The dark shade of the backpack could symbolize just how broken Oh-aew and Teh’s relationship is.
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After they share the wine, Teh boldly suggests they try the acting exercise again from earlier, but this time with he and Jai. They end up kissing but that’s when Oh arrives to witness the interaction.
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Oh-aew looks shocked and heartbroken but instead of interrupting, he slowly pulls his hand away from the door, as if he’s already given up on he and Teh.
And just like that, their promise is broken. Blood has been spilled and the waves are surging violently onto the shore.
How will Teh and Oh recover from this kind of damage?
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that-bl-bitch · 2 years
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#5
I really like Mork I wasn't expecting him to be so nice and genuine, from the synopsis (I watched the trailer too but months ago so I had no memory of it, all I could recall was that I vaguely remembered enemies to lovers) it made it seem like Mork was just as in love with Nan as Pi is so during the wiping of the hand scene happened I was expecting him to be mean and have ulterior motives so when he offered to buy another box I was like 'hmmm what's your plan here bub' but very quickly realized (I think in the very next scene, which they shared) that Mork liked Pi from the get go and Pi is just out here going around assuming Mork likes Nan cause they hang out a bunch, but Pi is just so focus on his crush on Nan that he can't see that Mork isn't trying to malicious with his actions and with the way Mork went about the picture thing I can see how Pi would look at that as something he was trying to do on purpose especially with his one track mindset of 'Mork likes Nan therefore he hates me and is after me'
A n y w a y s really no point of this I just wasn't expecting Mork to be like this and I'm just pleasantly surprised, I got hopes that this show is gonna be good one so I'm just a wee bit excited, excited enough to make pointless post about it apparently, also is it just me or is this giving off a bit of My gear and your gown vibe? Also not sure if anyone else clocked this or how important it is but when Mork was folding clothes he was folding kids clothes little girl clothes to be specific so that means a younger sister so maybe a cute scene or something having to deal with that in the future mayhaps
and another thing I feel like it would criminal not mention just how cute and nice Mix is in this, I had completely forgot he was even going to be in this cause I watched the trailer before I really cared who he was and before I got completely obsessed with atots, he is such a good actor it's wild
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I'm sorry but the only thing I want to do is scream about papa and daddy, episode two when they show how they met and how they ended up getting together was the cutest thing I've ever witnessed and I'm not sure it can be topped, plus a cute lesbian couple who are also planning on having a kid it's just wholesome gay relationships all around. Ugh it's so gooooood
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#3
I would sell my first born child to be able to watch ep 7 right this very second
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also just the way pran did that with his friends around, I mean I know they were probably farther away near the bus probably but pran went from being worried that someone would see them talking at the university to licking his finger on a beach full of architect students and not giving a fuck
83 notes • Posted 2021-12-04 17:01:02 GMT
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Also can we talk about what a fucking queen Pa is like she runs the store when her parents aren't there and not just like a "we're just running out for 5 mins watch the shop" it sounds like she actually knows what shes talking about and what to do seems like she does all the fucking laundry in the house or at the very least hers and Pats she even went as far as going all the way to Pats dorm to do his laundry at one point like fucking queen and only in high school that queen
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shortpplfedup · 3 years
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Anatomy of a Scene Two Lovers In Two Moments: An Interplay, and a lot of thoughts about intentions
Hey. You didn't go back to your dorm?No. I wanted to be with you more.Why are you all wet?I just went swimming. Didn't you hear anything?
I Promised You the Moon, Episode 3: Memory Recall Director: Meen Tossaphon Riantong Cinematographer: Koi Boonyanuch Kraithong Score: Vichaya Vatanasapt Cast: Billkin Putthipong Assaratanakul and PP Krit Amnuaydechkorn
Ah, the cursed scene. I've included Teh in the pool as part of this scene because I think this whole thing together is important for making both an in-universe and a meta point about intentionality. The fact that this point in the story is where we see their first time and not the point when it actually happens is intentional. Putting Teh in that pool and directly calling back to the float/sink/kiss scene in ITSAY episode 4 is absolutely intentional. Remember:
When I don’t want to control anything, I release my breath and let myself sink. Damn, that feels so nice.
Putting Oh Aew in the sunset tee (Teh's tee remember btw) and directly calling back to the bedroom scene in ITSAY episode 3 when they were so hot for each other is absolutely intentional.
Everything the creators put and don't put on screen in this story is intentional. And I love that. This is the story they're telling, and they're using all these writing and production and direction techniques to tell it well. They aren't shying away from it, and it's bold and controversial and people will hate it and they still didn't shy away from it. Art. And hey, some people think a piece of art is bullshit and they hate it and that's valid because art is personal. For real, ask me about Hemingway sometime if you want to hear me go off on Bullshit Art I Hate...lol.
On its face, completely contextless, I find this scene so beautiful, two lovers reuniting. In context it's sad, unsettling and a little gross, because there are real true feelings tangled up here, and Oh Aew doesn't know about any of them. These two not talking to each other about how they feel until things blow up or collapse and they have no other choice is honestly going to be the death of me. But I digress.
I don't think anything Teh says or does in this scene is a lie. If it was just about Jai or just about the play and had nothing to do with his feelings for Oh Aew at all I feel like it would be easier for me to think of Teh as a villain, because that would be deliberately cruel. But the fact that part of his intentions are his love for Oh Aew and his very real desire to go back to the way things were, for me evidenced by him returning to the water, returning to that specific moment in their history where he first was able to express that love in a physical way, means that I can't see it that way. Teh's trying to find something he thinks he's lost, not realising it's right in front of him.
Oh Aew also has his own intentions in this scene; he is also trying to reconnect to Teh. In this part of the story Oh Aew is trying to find a new way to feel loved inside of his relationship with Teh without losing the self he has found. He is wearing Teh's clothes and calling back to a time when he and Teh wanted each other so badly to feel closer to a Teh who feels very far away. And when Teh comes to him on a night when he had already said he wouldn't, and makes love to him like THAT, he feels like something that felt like it was fading is full of life and colour again, and he embraces it wholeheartedly.
From a technical standpoint, the cross-cutting technique used to connect the present moment with the flashback is extremely effective both in and out of context. The camera coming into focus on the flashback at the same time the score shifts into a higher key is a moment designed to feel like a revelation, a breakthrough. The mirroring and repetition of specific gestures and touches between the past and the present, while the physical looks of the characters are so different are the button on the scene: things are different in so many ways, but some things are the same. Oh Aew looks gorgeous in both the past and the present, because we're meant to see him the way Teh sees him in the past, and the way Teh isn't seeing him in the present. The blue lighting and shadows of the flashback made me sad and nostalgic for what was, for a time we hadn't even seen up until now other than the aquarium scene (another scene in blue light and shadow): a time when they were together, completely, 100% in sync and totally hot for each other.
This scene was something I desperately needed and wanted to see and when we got it I almost wished they hadn't shown it to us because it's so HEARTBREAKING.
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shortpplfedup · 3 years
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Oh Aew Hot Girl Summer loading. Take this energy and go out into the world bb, that man needs to learn some painful lessons and you need to learn some beautiful ones.
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shortpplfedup · 3 years
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Episode 3: Memory Recall
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Plug and Mangpong, the only bright spot.
I almost did not want to do this analysis post because this episode smacked me around and left me sobbing in a heap on the floor. So real and raw and completely heartbreaking. How am I even supposed to analyse this? I cannot see myself getting the emotional distance to look at it in any way objectively. So I might as well do it in the immediate aftermath, which I never do. What follows is my emo, spilled onto my keyboard.
I posted this but I want to say it again: just because this ep was heartbreaking and rage-inducing doesn't mean that it wasn't excellent. The writing is phenomenal and the acting is superb. There is no character here behaving out of character, that's why this is so WRETCHED. This show is some next level filmmaking, on all levels.
Act I: Is this all there is?
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The minute everything went left.
Oof, long term relationships. They are NOT for the faint of heart. We're at yet another realistic inflexion point in Teh and Oh Aew's relationship: both Teh and Oh Aew are questioning to themselves whether the relationship should continue. Oh Aew has changed a lot, he has really blossomed, while Teh has grown up some but changed very little. Does the fact that they have changed change their love? Yes and no. Love is never exactly the same from day to day anyway. Love's a decision you make, over and over again. The way you feel is a part of it, but what you decide to DO, every day is the biggest part. Love is a verb, it's an action. Oh Aew's action is to try to move closer to Teh, to work on the poster as a way of stepping into Teh's life as who he is now, to see if that can reignite them. Teh's action is to take a step back from Oh Aew, try to look at him from the distance of memory and see if there is anything of the Oh Aew he fell in love with still there in Oh Aew in the here and now.
I was really hoping these two frames could help Teh and Oh realise that they felt what they felt before they had acting as an excuse, because acting was never really their thing, it was ALWAYS an excuse. Chinese did more emotional lifting between them than acting, but that was more about how they communicated than how they felt. The glue between Teh and Oh Aew from the time they were twelve years old has always been that Oh Aew believes in Teh and doesn't judge him, and Teh needs that DESPERATELY to see himself as worthy. But Teh's self-belief has been shaken so hard over the last two years especially. He doesn't seem to have had any success with auditioning. He is clinging to Jai's play because it's his only shot right now in his mind. And that leaves him open to Jai's manipulations.
Act II: Nostalgia is a curse
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Tainted love.
Be careful what you wish for indeed. I wanted to see Teh and Oh Aew reconnect physically because it felt like their physical connection was one of the things that had gotten lost in the ins and outs and day to day of their relationship. But how it happens here...oyyyyyyyyyyyyy. Interspersing their lovemaking with scenes from their first time (which, well played holding that back until this point in the story) was a REALLY effective technique. It's like a cracked mirror version of what they used to be, both because they aren't who they were then, and because the whole thing is coming from this manipulated place. Jai's intentions aren't good so his advice, which is on its face good advice, is tainted and the outcome is tainted. Teh's motivations are all mixed up and some are from his real emotions and some are an acting exercise and it's almost grotesque. The lovemaking is still true in a strange way, Teh and Oh Aew's connection is still very real, but it's all twisted and tangled up somehow. The effect is quite unsettling. I kind of wanted to vomit the whole time.
Act III: Wicked games
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Teh getting played.
I joked with a mutual a few weeks back that if one of the two cheated I'd put my money on Teh, and so I'm not surprised this happened. Teh has always been the one on a little bit of the back foot in terms of understanding and being grounded in his feelings. Oh Aew would've never fallen for a manipulation like Jai's because Oh Aew knows himself, even if he doesn't know anything else. The show has shown us in tiny ways that Oh Aew is uncomfortable with Jai, and now we see it's with good reason. Jai played Teh like a fiddle.
In the grand scheme of things, all Teh and Jai do is kiss, but the betrayal feels devastating because it's not just about the kiss. Teh is falling in love with Jai and we've all seen it. He's even wearing the moon shirt from ITSAY episode 3, in one HELL of a costuming callback. And he doesn't do anything to stop himself, and I can't say he just allows it to happen either, he is an active participant. That Jai was manipulating him is not of much consequence in this regard; this was a very very very bad and wrong thing he did point blank period. Manipulated or not Teh is an adult and he made choices. He doesn't deserve Oh Aew's forgiveness even were he to ask for it. Oh Aew should and probably will leave him.
I don't think Teh is a villain. Villainy to me requires deliberate cruelty, and that's why I think Jai is the only villain in this piece. Teh's emotional naivete, his desperation, his continued inability to communicate with Oh Aew, his open heart and, I'm sorry, his empty head, is what got them here. He was DUMB. Teh is certainly nobody's hero right now. I've seen a lot of 'Teh can't be redeemed from this' and to be clear I don't think that Teh needs 'redemption' from this because it's not 'redeemable'. This can't be undone. No matter what happens after this, this will always be a thing that happened...no, this will always be a thing that TEH DID. Most couples, most PEOPLE can't get beyond a thing like this.
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At least Plug and Mangpong are adorable.
What Teh does here with Oh Aew and Jai is a callback to what he did with Tarn and Oh Aew in ITSAY. It's not exactly the same by any means, but it feels similar. Teh HAS grown in the three years of the story, but he is still so much the same person he was as a teenager in Phuket.
The sunset tee and the moon shirt being brought back into this shitshow...talk about your cracked mirror reflections of the past. The costuming language on this show is ELITE I tell you.
If your partner randomly wakes you up in the middle of the night to bang it is ALWAYS because something happened, trust me. This whole episode was like watching my twenties unfold in front of my eyes and it HURT to watch. I feel ravaged and savaged.
Honestly, this was the best episode of this whole story to date. In no way enjoyable because of aforementioned heartbreak, but it grabbed you by the throat and did not let go the entire time.
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shortpplfedup · 3 years
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Just rewatching IPYTM 3 and 4 and I think the saddest and most difficult thing to watch and also the thing the filmmaking conveys very clearly is how Teh can't even SEE Oh Aew when he's right in front of him. That's brought into sharp relief in the karaoke scene when the camera whiplashes Teh's view from Jai to Oh Aew. Teh kind of stopped looking at Oh Aew because it hurt to see him do so well after 'leaving Teh behind' in acting. But then it's like he SAW him for the first time in a year and he's in pain, in tears. Teh saw his own hurt reflected back at him, and since Teh can only see his shit when people mirror it back at him (god I've been wanting to write about Teh and all the literal and metaphorical mirrors around him for MONTHS but I can't find my way in or out of that thematic maze at the moment) THAT'S the moment he snaps to.
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shortpplfedup · 3 years
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Why is Jai manipulating Teh? :c
If you've ever hung around an arty crowd, you've met this guy. He has some talent, and fancies himself a genius and a svengali. He considers the whole world banal and bourgeois except for some very specific obscure artiste or artistic style. He collects people. He LOVES naifs that he can baffle with his bullshit. He usually has a few groupies around to feed his ego, who he fucks with (and sometimes just fucks period) because he can. He is ambitious and slightly sociopathic. In another life (or maybe later in this one) he would be a cult leader. In short, Jai thinks he's interesting, and the world deserves his brilliance, so he will use whoever and whatever he needs to get to the top.
I may or may not have dated one or two of the aforementioned in my wild child days, and that may or may not be influencing my view of Jai...but I don't think I'm entirely wrong.
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shortpplfedup · 3 years
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I'm starting to feel like maybe the only person who's gotten gassed up on some emotional fluffing from a crush I got a teensy bit too close to and went home and went wild on my SO for the first time in a long time as a release...lol
No, but seriously long term relationships are weird and sex and attraction in long term relationships is weirder is what I'm saying. Teh's motivations are mixed at best. He's confused and horny and lonely and longing and missing and scared and a little depressed and frustrated and desperate and TEH, so he's not going to actually handle that well. It's...not great. He needs therapy. He needs to actually TALK to Oh Aew about what's going on with him. They need to be apart for at least a while, honestly. Teh needs to get burned some to learn the stove is hot, it has always been thus. But it's not demonic either, I just can't vibe with some takes.
By the way, Oh Aew also needs to talk to Teh! The things he's saying to his friends he needs to say to Teh. 'I feel like we're fading' is a legit discussion you should have with your SO, for your own self and sanity and to decide if it's worth it to continue.
Yes, Oh Aew hasn't done wrong here and Teh has. That's hurtful and sad. I'm hurt and sad for Oh Aew. I want so much for him, and I see him getting it all and more. But as a character I can't discard Teh here, or see a single motivation, I see several, including a genuine need and feeling of wanting to reconnect with Oh Aew, whom he does genuinely love and is still genuinely sexually attracted to, mixed up with an equally genuine sexual and emotional attraction to Jai, mixed up with an equally genuine desire to do well at acting in this accursed play. It's not any one thing, it's all the things.
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shortpplfedup · 3 years
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'Love does not consist of gazing at each other, but in looking outward together in the same direction.'
-Antoine de Saint-Exupery, The Little Prince
Teh and Oh Aew are looking in completely different directions in this episode: Oh Aew is looking forward to the future while Teh is looking back at the past.
This hurts so bad but it's so REAL. Break up bbs, it's the only way.
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shortpplfedup · 3 years
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Can we at least all agree that Jai sucks?
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shortpplfedup · 3 years
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Hot Shots!: Part Deux (or two people peep and see more than they bargained for)
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They set up the pins and knocked down a strike and I DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE until I was pulling screenshots. Two people, in places they weren't meant to be, see things they weren't meant to see, and the aftereffects of both are...whew.
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Teh likes sweet drinks, finally gets one, and finds it cloying. Is this a metaphor for the dream he's desperately striving for? Might he find it in a more bitter but more palatable way than he thought?
Also, the shirt. When I realised Teh was wearing this shirt and the episode was in its closing minutes, I knew what was going to happen and my heart sank. The other costume callback to ITSAY episode 3 in this ep, the sunset tee got shattered and twisted in the sex scene. I'll certainly never look at that shirt the same way again. And here, the shirt Teh was wearing on his 'date' with Oh Aew (a date very similar to the 'date' he went on with Jai in this episode) returns in the same shattered, twisted way. They are paralleling his original growing fascination with Oh Aew with his new growing fascination with Jai. I don't think this is meant to show that what is happening with Jai is the same as what happened with Oh Aew, but more like Teh is confused and conflating the two in his mind, indulging in some transference of those old feelings to this new person. Because...
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...Teh ain't doing so hot. Alone at the play, washed in melancholy blue light...
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...feeling completely disconnected from Oh Aew (no costume conversation at all)...
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...and here comes Jai, offering (although it's not real) warmth and understanding.
I Promised You the Moon, Episode 3: Memory Recall Director: Meen Tossaphon Riantong Cinematographer: Koi Boonyanuch Kraithong
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shortpplfedup · 3 years
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Hot Shots! (And other visuals)
These posts are really starting to get more into all the elements on screen every week, started with cinematography, then the costuming started to play, and now art direction and set dressing making an appearance. I love that more of the production toolbox is noticeable on screen with every ep.
This ep is also very plotty, so it's more short observations on certain visual elements than long takes.
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This week's episode is a story of three very different men and how they see the world and themselves in this moment. Look at how these three people are dressed. Nobody here relates to anybody else.
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This man is in his BAG. He's feeling confident and assured in his life at the moment. I couldn't get the GIF of this shot to load, but go look at it again. This shot is straight cover girl shit, the lighting, the camera movement, the costuming. I expect a paparazzi flashbulb to go off any minute. Oh Aew looks like he is killing the game.
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This man looks good on the outside but his eyes give him away. He can't even see himself by looking in the mirror. I'm gonna come back to this shirt later.
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This man is opaque, inscrutable. It's no coincidence I think that Jai is the most blandly, nondescriptly dressed character in the entire show. His looks stand out, but he sort of tamps them down by dressing to blend in, fade away, not be noticed.
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Almost the entire bank of windows is uncovered but these two are huddling up at the one area that is curtained. A conversation not for the open. It's dark and secretive and doesn't feel kosher.
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Contrast the previous shot with how openly Oh Aew is discussing his feelings with his friends. Bright lights, lots of people, big open space.
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Yeah, this is a date. No two ways about it. The soft, warm lighting, the voyeuristic long shots, the intimate framing...it's a date.
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I Promised You the Moon, Episode 3: Memory Recall Director: Meen Tossaphon Riantong Cinematographer: Koi Boonyanuch Kraithong
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shortpplfedup · 3 years
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Yes I've seen the stills.
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shortpplfedup · 3 years
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Live footage of me after the IPYTM 3 preview.
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shortpplfedup · 3 years
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From last week's FUTS review, but applicable I think to the brouhaha around Memory Recall:
I think one of the most important things about consuming art, of whatever type but especially media, is to engage with it on its own terms. Not to insert what you wanted that piece of work to do, but to acknowledge and accept what it wants to do, what it tries to do, and judge how effectively it has done that thing. It's not that it's not helpful or useful to judge the intention of a work, but I tend to prefer to interrogate purpose after the fact.
My emotions surrounding the ep are shambles. I'm hurting like it happened to me (it has before and the ep rocketed me right back there). I feel SO MANY THINGS: rage, grief, loss, unease, a pain deep in my stomach somewhere. It's visceral. When I said I wanted to vomit that was 100% true.
But for me, that's how I know it's good, effective. The story WANTS me to hurt like this right now. And it couldn't hurt me this much if it didn't feel real. It couldn't hurt me this much if I wasn't invested. These people on the TV box feel like people I know. Sometimes they feel like ME.
I think after the story is over, I'll be able to judge the intention of the work. At this moment in time I think a lot of people misread the work's intention, and there are myriad reasons for that. But that's a picture that's still being painted, and I would like to see the finished work before deciding. The story they wanted to tell you isn't always the story you wanted to see, and that's eventually a fair critique. But in the in between like this, there is no way for me to say that what they're doing is not effective. Mission accomplished.
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