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maybe The One knew that the demon king was going to be killed by his daugther "soon" and also knew that the price asked to the demons would be "hard" for her to accept since she thinks that she deserves the best and feels "insulted" to have to give it up. It was more a "reward" for Her to pay, not really her father.

I know at the end of ch141, Julius requests Leuvis to take him to meet the king to propose a deal, but then in the following chapter Julius reveals that his agreement with the queen (which I assume to still be Legravalima at that time) was successful. So I'm not entirely sure who the "king" is, unless that's just another way they're referring to The One. Yverk accompanied Julius to the day & night when the promise was made, but I don't believe he's king but rather just a head of one of the five royal houses. I also don't believe we even knew or heard of Leg's father. The only family we know of are Leuvis and Sonju being her younger brothers.**

I could be totally wrong though, I dunno. All this demon stuff is confusing to begin with, hence why I try not to pay too much attention to them. They got a lotta history stuff to keep track of since they live so darn long.

Anyways.. yeah, Legravalima probably took the news of not having the absolute best kind of human meat the worst. Yverk was probably disappointed as well, but with Legs being the forever hungry queen she is, I doubt she would've shared her perfect meals with anyone else.

It would be one thing if she met The One alongside Julius when the promise was made, that way the reward would feel like a more personal attack on her like Julius & Emma's respective rewards were directed towards them with Julius becoming the gatekeeper and Emma losing her memories (& family temporarily), but since it was Yverk there instead and all he lost was the highest quality food that he probably wasn't gonna get the chance to eat anyway, it definitely feels like a lesser punishment than what the humans lost.

**Umm, okay, so probably ignore all of that because looking back at ch159 and we do see Legs kill some fancy demon the third (or second, whichever way you wanna count, idc) panel.

And it's that same demon who we see back in ch142 that Julius makes the deal with. I just always assumed this was Legravalima since he mentions he spoke with the queen, but the clothing this demon has is the same as the demon she kills up above.

So maybe that is her actual father. I'm not entirely sure how this how demon family tree and nobility work out, but it's certainly amusing to see how my mind thinks of one thing for so long, notices something new and completely gets lost.

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couldnt-think-of-a-better-name · 5 years

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Chapter 141 Spoilers

We have the following text spoiler so far:

The Demon[!God] says, “Fine. But give me a reward.”

People from 1000 years ago explain that the “reward” is compensation for having your wish granted and whatever is asked for you must not refuse.

There are 6 people in a meeting during the battle 1000 years ago who look like they’re from Dragon Quest or something.

One of them named Julius proposes offering a portion of the humans as a method for peace.

Everyone disagreed and that was stopped.

Various countries and cultures are all combining powers to fight! We’re finally beginning to see a chance of victory! We’ll end this war in our generation!

They’re excited but in the end Leuvis kills everyone but Julius.

Julius wants to make a deal with his majesty.

The tragic beginning of a betrayal by a comrade in arms.

We have an image as well, and I would like to point out how similar their clothing/armour look to Norman knights from history 😎:

This fits with most early medieval european fashion, but I keep getting excited because I made a theory on the first Ratri leader who made the promise being Emma of Normandy, who was an important ruler just around a 1000 years ago, when the promise was made. The manga panels again fit the clothing of a norman lady:

So it looks like the Ratri clan may be a descendant of the Normans after all! Fierce warriors who used to be vikings until they settled in the French area of Normandy, around a 1000 years ago, under the rule of viking chieftain Rollo, who was apparently a man too big for any horse to carry (perhaps the big guy in the back on the manga page?).

To me it sounds like that Norman knights would fit the bill for being able to and wanting to fight demons. It sounds like they were badasses.

The only thing that bothers me is the mention of Julius... Is this a reference to Julius Caesar? However he lived almost another 1000 years earlier, so I don't think it could be actually him.

When looking for Cuvitidala, Ray discussed an old book that was identified as the diary or various ratri clansmen during the ages. The most ancient parts were written in latin or mirrored latin.

Latin was however not only the language of the romans, but during the early medieval ages in europe everyone wrote in latin, even if they spoke their native languages only. Most people were illiterate though, only a select few learned to write.

So maybe Julius is a mistranslation, or just unrelated to Julius Caesar, or just a small nod to him being betrayed.

In terms of the price of reforging the promise, the spoiler has some contradictions:

No matter what reward demon!God asks for, it must be given. This implies that demon!God decides the price, and the negotiator has no say in setting the price.

Julius suggests offering part of humanity. So then after all, does demon!God only decide if they accept what the negotiator offers? Without demanding anything?

Perhaps there is a bit of haggling involved? Either case, Emma has seen demons make what looked like offers to demon!God in exchange for their wishes...

Emma is only speculating on this, but it seems reasonable that demons used to go to Cuvitidala to talk to demon!God through visions. Otherwise, why would the vision mechanism activate automatically, if it wasn't set up for that?

The question is: why doesn't it work anymore, why did the demons abandon it, and why did it work for Emma?

In the previous chapter's, 140's analysis I discussed that Emma's faith was important to reaching demon!God. She believed she could do it, and she did.

So what if demons have abandoned Cuvitidala because they have lost faith in demon!God, and couldn’t talk to demon!God anymore?

Sure, they still hold tifari, but perhaps that festival isn't about worshipping a God anymore, but it is a social gathering they hold as a tradition now? They certainly don't seem to know anymore what demon!God actually wants of them if they keep sending dead people, and demon!God is much more interestes in playing with living humans...

Now, I know a lot of ppl expect Emma to offer herself as sacrifice to the demon!God, but even if she is prime quality and supremely delicious, I doubt that a one-time snack is really worth much to a God...

What might be worth a lot more though may be getting their followers back, and perhaps expanding them to humans as well?

So maybe Emma could become a priest/prophet of demon!God and convert demons and humans together to demon!God's religion? Maybe Mujika could help. After all, Mujika's religion forbids eating cattle humans, and if humans and demons share a religion; then they should not fight or try to kill each other anymore.

I think that one might be a neat solution for uniting them, and also pleasing demon!God. Plus it fits with the Bible theme where in the new testament Christianity becomes available to everyone, not just the jews anymore.

(I will get back to asks soon, sorry that I haven't been answering them yet! Have quite a few in my inbox!)

#ynn #yakusoku no neverland #tpn #tpn spoilers #the promised neverland #tpn 141 #tpn emma #tpn norman #tpn theory

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