#it was a very complicated situation and i'm not saying they DELIBERATELY acted like wwx was the one picking a fight

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another parallel between jyl and jzx is that both ask wwx to stop in the middle of a battle when the other party wasn't going to stop both try to make peace resulting in their own dead. Also they could have avoided it if they didn't decided to run in the middle of a battle, I can undestand jzx trying to stop his cousin to kill wwx but why jyl decided to go to nightless city.

Yeah, that’s a good point. In both cases they’re telling WWX, who is defending himself, to stop fighting first instead of suggesting that maybe the attackers should stand down instead of antagonizing him. And JYL at least should know better; JZX has no reason to trust WWX, but JYL does. Again it’s that thing of... trying to deal with the immediate situation, but not trying to deal with the underlying issue and so in practice pretty much just kicking the can further down the road. I’m willing to cut JYL some slack for going to Nightless City (her husband had just died and the sects were planning to kill her brother, she wouldn’t have been thinking clearly, although I do not forgive CQL for making a point of showing her having a sword and going to cultivator lessons and then still having her run out onto a battlefield unarmed and get cut down immediately, at least let her get overwhelmed while fighting, come on), but yeah, her telling WWX to stop first when the sects were actively trying to kill him and his only way of keeping himself and the people under his protection alive was to prove he was too big a threat to provoke unnecessarily instead of appealing to her brother (who is a sect leader and who JYL still trusts to side with WWX) or the Lans (at least one of whom she knows does want her brother safe) is... certainly something. It’s this thing where even counting all of the people of the sects who genuinely wanted WWX safe, only LWJ really considered that maybe instead of telling him to stop defending himself and instead throw himself and the Wen remnants to the mercy of the people who had been actively targeting pretty much from the moment he was no longer useful to them wasn’t going to help him. At least when LWJ said “Come back to Gusu with me” he meant “Let me personally help and protect you” instead of “If you stop fighting and obediently let yourself be imprisoned I might be able to help”, especially since the latter comes from people who only might be able to help because their political power is limited and dependant on others. But it’s no wonder WWX took it as the latter, given that’s... really the only offer of help he gets from anyone else. 

JZX and JYL both meant well, I don’t want to deny that or understate how willing they were to take risks for WWX’s sake (or for JYL’s sake through WWX in JZX’s case), but... yeah, they both greatly misunderstood the situation. And again, it comes close to that line between neutrality and wrongdoing; while neither of them meant to, I’d argue that even though they were defending WWX they weren’t really on his side the way LWJ is? They weren’t going to let him get killed by mob justice, but they did want him to hand himself over to the justice of the people who created this situation to begin with, which is... better, for sure, but still not great, and let’s be honest was extremely likely to still end with WWX dead, just with a smaller overall death toll on the sects’ side. I’m sure they intended to defend him as best they could, but... well, with two great sect leaders calling for his head and the other two prepared to side with their peers over WWX based on lack of evidence to the contrary and the minor sect leaders just following the leader, a sect heir and his wife wouldn’t have actually been able to do much. Basically they both meant well but made entirely the wrong call in trying to defuse the situation by treating WWX like the aggressor (and so in practice kind of accidentally siding with the sects); while JYL’s death was the result of someone else attacking (and so entirely dependant on the sects listening to her if she told them to stand down, which isn’t guaranteed), I’d argue that there’s a fair chance that if JZX had told JZXun and his lot to back off first even if it did come to a fight there was a much higher possibility that WN would’ve seen him as an ally and not an enemy. Not guaranteed by any stretch, but... a chance.

#mdzs #cql #jiang yanli #jin zixuan #it was a very complicated situation and i'm not saying they DELIBERATELY acted like wwx was the one picking a fight #but that WAS the vibe their decisions gave me #anon #asks