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sayitaliano · 7 months
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Italian names of fingers
HAND'S FINGERS:
The official names are: pollice = thumb indice = forefinger or index medio = middle finger anulare = ring finger mignolo = little finger or pinkie
We learn them easily since when we are kids (something that doesn't happen with foot's fingers). We also learn that "dito" = finger, is masculine at the singular but has a double plural: the masculine plural "diti" can be used only when we refer to one type of finger (eg. "i diti indici" = the index fingers) while when we consider all the fingers of the hand, we use the feminine plural "dita" (eg. "le dita della mano" = the fingers of the hand)
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FOOT'S FINGERS:
The more official name list is the one originating from the Latin digiti pedis (basically the one used in English too):
primo dito = hallux (lat.: digitus primus or hallux) secondo dito = second toe (lat.: digitus secundus) terzo dito = third toe (lat.: digitus tertius) quarto dito = fourth toe (lat.: digitus quartus) quinto dito = fifth toe (lat.: digitus quintus or minimus pedis)
...with the generally accepted exceptions of alluce (also called pollicione or ditone or dito grosso del piede in informal context) for the first finger, and mignolo (or mignolino, again in informal context) for the fifth.
This said, online you can find another list (its names may vary a little tbh, but these are the most common ones):
alluce illice (or melluce) trillice pondolo mellino (or minolo)
This list doesn't seem to be accurate or scientific (source) but it was found since the early years of 2000's used in several occasions and even some non-traditional medicine books.
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def-not-kaz-brekker · 4 months
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Still mad about this. If you even care (I wrote that btw AND I AM RIGHT NICOS NAME IS FUCKING UGHHH PLEASE still love him but COME ONNN)
ALSO ANOTHER ROOT FOR NICO MIGHT BE NECRO WHICH MEANS DEATH SO IT KIGHT ALSO MEAN ANGEL OF DEATH
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andynovy · 1 year
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Family Vocabulary - Italian-English (Beginner)
Parents: genitori (pl.), genitore (sing.) Grandparents: nonni (pl.) Siblings: fratelli e sorelle (pl.) Relatives: parenti (pl.) Mother: mamma (f.) Father: papà (m.) Son: figlio (m.) Twins: gemelli (pl.) Children: bambini, figli (pl. collective noun) Newborn: neonato (m.), neonata (f.) Daughter: figlia (f.) Grandmother: nonna (f.) Grandfather: nonno (m.) Granddaughter: nipote (f.)* Grandson: nipote (m.)* Brother: fratello (m.) Sister: sorella (f.) Aunt: zia (f.) Uncle: zio (m.) Niece: nipote (f.)* Nephew: nipote (m.)* Cousin: cugino/cugina (f./m.) Mother in law: suocera (f.) Father in law: suocero (m.) Sister in law: cognata (f.) Brother in law: cognato (m.) Husband: marito (m.) Wife: moglie (f.) Groom: sposo (m.) Bride: sposa (f.) Boyfriend: fidanzato, ragazzo (m.)** Girlfriend: fidanzata, ragazza (f.)** Godfather: padrino (m.) Godmother: madrina (f.) Widow: vedova (f.) Widower: vedovo (m.) Useful adjectives - Aggettivi utili
Married: sposato Engaged: fidanzato Separated: separato Divorced: divorziato Single: single Nota bene - Please note!
*the word "nipote" can be used in Italian to describe the relation between both a grandmother/grandfather and their granddaughter/grandson, and an uncle/aunt and their niece/nephew.
**the word "fidanzato/fidanzata" is always used as a synonym for the more common "ragazzo/ragazza", although there is a slight difference between the two terms. The use of "fidanzato/fidanzata" assumes that the couple is officially engaged (with a proposal), whereas "ragazzo/ragazza", two words that normally mean "boy/girl", intend in the everyday context a "boyfriend/girlfriend".
Words that start with "step-", such as stepmother, stepdaughter, stepfather, stepson, and so on, are translated by adding either the suffix -igno/-igna or the suffix -astro/-astra.
Madre -> matrigna Padre -> patrigno Figlio -> figliastro Figlia -> figliastra Sorella -> sorellastra Fratello -> fratellastro
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qualcunosono · 2 years
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La particella "ne"
Ho già parlato della particella "ci", ho spiegato cos'è e come usarla. Oggi parleremo di un'altra particella molto comune, NE. Fortunatamente è anche facile, puoi capirla dopo leggere questo solamente una volta, inoltre che ha meno casi di CI. Sebbene CI sia utilizzato in 5 casi, NE è utilizzato in 3.
Per sostituire "di/da qualcosa/qualcuno
Esempi:
Non si parla più dello scandalo > Non se ne parla più
Sono entrato a scuola alle 8 e sono uscito da là alle 8 > Sono entrato a scuola e ne sono uscito alle 8
Semplice, non è?
Come pronome partitivo
Ossia, quando si parla di quantità.
Questo caso quasi sarebbe parte di quello sopra, se non fosse per il fatto che a volte non usa la preposizione "di":
- Preparo il caffè, ne vuoi un po'? - Sì, ne prendo un po' (di caffè)
Ti rimangono solo due giorni di ferie > Te ne rimangono solo due (giorni)
- Quante pagine hai già letto del libro? - Ne ho letto 50 (pagine)
Adesso il terzo caso:
Con espressioni idiomatiche
Come il CI, NE è anche usato per formare espressioni, di cui molte sono frequenti e utili. Ecco alcune:
Ne ho abbastanza (Sono stanco o stufo di qualcosa/qualcuno)
Non ne posso più (Sono stanco di qualcosa/qualcuno (simile a questa di sopra))
Ne faccio a meno (Rinuncio a qualcosa)
Ne ho dette di tutti i colori (Ho detto parole ofensive)
Ne vale la pena (La cosa di cui parlo è vantaggiosa, utile)
E questo è tutto. Sì, il testo è semplicissimo, così corto che anche sembra essere sbagliato o incompleto, ma non è, è tutto qui. Con questa spiegazione certamente potrai già usare il NE e capirlo quando lo vedrai. Grazie per leggere, a dopo.
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mewkwota · 6 months
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I was imagining something like a Smash Reunion Party where everyone's families were also invited, but regardless of the scenario I can see Mario staying in touch with fellow Fighters and celebrating important moments with them. Such is the way of Mr. Nintendo. :>
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princelylove · 5 months
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The Father.
Synopsis: A character study on Bruno Bucciarati. 
Warning: pet names used in italian are masculine, general yandere behavior, nsfw implication at the end but no real nsfw, referenced violence
Bruno is not really naturally the fatherly type, but he chooses the responsibility anyway. He hides that he smokes, doesn’t eat until everyone else has, and very rarely slacks off. Although he’s serious about work and his family, he tends to be playful and lighthearted. It’s rare to see Bruno in a bad mood. He’s a family man. Loves the holidays, always hosts. Wants to be called papa or dad- Bruno’s secretly hoping that one day someone will slip and call him ‘Daddy,’ how delusional. He took the responsibility from his own father for his health and safety when he was little and didn’t really blink, but who takes care of Bruno? No one! Because providers don’t need to be babied, obviously, and that’s exactly what he is. The provider. The man of the house. 
His favorite albums from Miles Davis are Agharta and Bitches Brew, which are jazz-fusion, avant-garde jazz, funk rock, and jazz-rock. I tend to think of jazz as slow, easy listening, but it’s wild, it’s experimental, it’s everything Bruno doesn’t allow himself to be in favor of keeping his perfect family fantasy safe and sound.  The Bucciarati household is always loud- whether that be from Narancia and Pannacotta “playing,” in Bruno’s words, or from the little record player that lives in the living room. He offered to buy Pannacotta some vinyl records, but he never took him up on it. It’s a bit of a sore subject. The bookcase has a cardboard box in it filled to the brim with albums from Miles Davis, Sade, Frank Sinatra, Tupac, and his darling’s alleged music taste- he guessed based off of what was in your room. How did he get in your room? Don’t be silly, he never said he was in your room. 
Bruno takes up two personas in order to maintain his fantasies, his passione one and his fatherly one, and flips back and forth depending on what’s going to work best. It’s rare to see Bruno just… being himself. He’s obsessed with how things are supposed to be- he wants what he never had. A big, happy family. 
His passione one is where he gets his sadism out of his system, where he tells himself he’s just doing whatever it takes to keep his family safe and sound and not thoroughly enjoying beating the shit out of whoever Polpo tells him to. He grabs your wrists too tightly when moving you out of his way, gets a little too loud with you, sometimes. He doesn’t hit his darling normally- no, that’s not what a good husband would do- but sometimes you just make comments that burrow themselves under his skin, and he can’t help but react. 
He doesn’t shy away when he does it, either. He always doubles down, giving you that firm tone he gives Narancia when he slacks off on important jobs, or how he would talk to someone while working a typical repo job. It’s like you’re talking to someone else- he doesn’t even bother to fake his normal smile. 
“Watch how you talk to me before you lose the ability to speak at all.”
It’s short and sweet. Nothing more needs to be said. 
He holds his head in his hands, later, thinking about how badly he just set himself back. At least he has the courtesy to open a window to let the smoke pour out. 
He doesn’t like smelling like cigarettes.
He isn’t really meant to be a father. He doesn’t really know how, but he’s trying to. He’s not meant to be a husband, either, with the way he treats his spouse, lately. But he’ll smile, and take that gentle tone, because he must. The world may be cruel, but he must not be. He has to work to not have that type of reaction when you speak to him so harshly. Maybe if he were a better man.
His cheeks hurt from smiling too much. He’s trained himself so that his smile would always reach his eyes- he even trained his relaxed face to be a more palatable version of his actual relaxed face. You won’t open up to him if he scowls at you, or glares at you instead of looks. He wants everyone to think he’s gentle- he wants to be the father that everyone always comes back to visit once they’re all grown up. A better version of his father, who Bruno would argue was perfect, for what he had. 
His darling is meant to be his spouse- his other half. He longs for someone he can shower with pet names, someone who will melt into his hands, someone who appreciates just how much effort he puts into everything. It’s rare that Bruno can fully relax- there’s always something to be done, whether that be at home, or by Polpo’s order. 
But… He doesn’t truly trust his darling. He loves to micromanage, and it makes him anxious to think about you holding something sharp or standing on something unstable. Please just let him reach whatever it is you need for him- his stand can bring things down if it’s also out of his reach. 
Why do you want to drive? He knows how to drive. Why did you bring your wallet? Of course he’s going to pay for you- he asked you out, didn’t he? Oh, let's not cut up your own snack, you could hurt yourself… Bruno is begging to be needed. He finds his identity in being the man of the house- the provider, the father, the husband, but you just aren’t giving it to him, and it's driving him up the wall. 
It’s suffocating. It’s patronizing. You can shave by yourself, you’re not a child. You know how to take something out of the oven- you’re not going to use your bare hand to touch the metal that was just sitting at 177 degrees celsius.
A little note sits on your nightstand. It’s meant to be a bonding exercise, as he leaves a new one every morning, but you don’t speak italian. Bruno’s handwriting is neat and bubbly- why he put so much effort into making it legible but not in a language you understand is beyond you. 
‘Amore mio -
Sono innamorato di te. Non aprire la porta a nessuno.
Avete mangiato qualcosa? 
Tuo marito.’
You’re left to sit and stare at it, if you’d like, or get on with the chores you know you have to do before Bruno gets back.
It’s little moments of peace- of genuine privacy- like these that keep you going. You’ve been getting up earlier for this exact purpose. Bruno would really rather you sleep the entire morning away and wake up to him coming home in the afternoon, arms open and smiling, calling his name, maybe saying something like “Come back to bed, my love.” … but it’s healthier for you to be up during the day, getting some sun from the open windows, and engage your mind with some tasks that aren’t instant-pleasure based.
But sleeping in a little bit isn’t a crime. You’re welcome to sleep until Narancia gets up- he needs you to walk him through the steps of making breakfast, again. Don’t worry. You won’t be touching the stove, or using a knife. Just guide him through it verbally, and comfort him if it fails.
It eats Bruno alive when you don’t immediately greet him at the door.
He sighs a bit at the snack you brought him. The bowl makes a clack sound as you set it down on his desk. You took such care in peeling and slicing some apples for him, he should be grateful. 
“Bello. What’s this for? I’d rather you not use the peeler unsupervised.”
“Wasn’t. Narancia was watching.” 
Bruno bites his lip a bit, but is quick to fix his face. He smiles at you oh-so-lovingly. “I didn’t know he was warming up to you, amore. Did something happen?” His hand reaches for the bowl, his wrist sits on the old wood of his desk, and his fingers tap the brim ever so lightly. He’s debating eating it to ‘please’ you or not, debating if he can hide his distaste for the fruit from his almost-spouse. So close.
“No.” Your answer is simple. It’s behaving without submitting. He wants the full story. Wants to know why his son is hovering over his darling- if this wasn’t done by a peeler, and actually done by the small pocket knife he trusted his son to have around you- 
“Perhaps it’s the exposure to you, then.” He really does it. He pops one of the smaller slices into his mouth, and chews. His shoe makes a distinct tap as he bounces his knee under his desk. As much as he adores you, his fondness for apples is like his fondness for the boss.
You hum at his act of ‘love,’ and wait for him to finish chewing, and actually swallow. When he notices your stare, he opens his mouth to display that he actually did.
“See? There’s no need to fuss, I’m not having issues with eating. I eat very well, actually.”
Of course his mind jumps to you being concerned for him. When you don’t respond, he sighs a little bit, and stands.
“Amore, is there something you want to talk about? I’m open to your worries. That’s what I’m here for.”
The clack of his shoes don’t comfort you. 
His outstretched hand doesn’t ease your worries.
His voice doesn’t soothe you.
“I love you, tesoro mio.” His lips graze your cheek, “I wish you wouldn’t look at me like I’m going to eat you.”
His hand rests on your waist, pulling you in closer.
“Unless you’d like me to.”
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lovely-v · 6 months
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Soooo mad that English doesn’t have formal/informal ‘you.’ I would exploit the hell out of that in fanfic
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tityre-tu-scurra · 15 days
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As a (wannabe) queer polyglot it's extremely important for me to understand how pronouns work in other languages and how to use them properly, but my fussiness has arrived to the point that I have chosen my preferred pronouns even in Latin and ancient Greek
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chaoslynx · 3 days
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omg you’re learning Italian? I’m Italian! Ciao!! Sono sicura che sei bravissimə! (ə is like the gender neutral suffix lmao even if it’s not universally recognised)
Ciao! Sì, parlo italiano, ma solo un po'. Imparando italiano per tre mesi ora! Anche xlx mix migliore amicx è italianx. Lxi usa -x invece -ə. Grazie mille per usi -ə per me! Anche -o è va bene per me. Mi dispiace se non dico questo molto bene ancora.
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roderich speaks excellent spanish but antonio's german is terrible that's the way it is unfortunately
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sayitaliano · 7 months
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Are there gender neutral pronouns in Italian?
Ciao! If I have to answer you from a grammatical pov, no, we don't have gender neutral pronouns at least as for now, but you can refer to people for example by calling them "persona" (=person), and adjust adjectives to this word. It's agender (i.e. used commonly for everyone), despite the noun itself is feminine.
These days though it seems that pronouns like Zie, Sie, Ey, Ve, Tey, E, Zim, Sie, Em, Ver, Ter, Em, Zir, Hir or Lui/Lei together, are being used (honestly haven't heard anyone using them irl yet but it may be among youngers the most and I am not that much in contact with them). I also know in some schools now teachers tend to use the word "(a)generi" instead of "ragazzi", which is the Italian noun for "agender" (I got the news from a third/adult person and they told me "generi" tbh, but I think it's "ageneri". Also cause "generi" = sons in law...).
This is for when it comes to spoken Italian. In written Italian we tend to add random endings as -u (which may be used also in spoken Italian: I heard someone say "ragazzu", instead of ragazza/o), -x, *, @, ə (possibly the most used atm).
I'm all for inclusivity, but there are some practical issues in relation to this matter (which you can read here too): Italian is strictly a two genders-based language, but there's also to consider that not everytime the gender of a word has to do with the gender of the person or thing involved (eg. la guardia = sentry, guard; "il fiore" = the flower, masculine; "la rosa" = the rose, feminine); that removing endings may cause problems also for distinguishing plurals-singulars and making concurrences; that some words don't let the ending's removal turn out in a successful way: eg. attore/attrice, studente/studentessa... Removing the masculine we tend to historically use for groups of people/stuff (when there's at least one masculine person/thing involved) would bring a way more inclusive change ofc, but I think we're still "in alto mare" (on the high seas) when it comes to coming up with Italian gender neutral pronouns. And using them would probably mean to change the whole grammar and tradition of our language (imho). What we are doing with the noun "ageneri", and finding more similar agender words (unrelated to the person's gender) to which connect all the other parts of the speech, is an easier and more practical road to follow (again imho) seen how our language works.
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markantonys · 5 months
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bayle domon wrote today's duolingo lesson
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def-not-kaz-brekker · 6 months
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It’s one fucking in the morning, I’m finishing reading “all the young dudes”, and the only FUCKING thing I can think about is how nico di Angelo’s name has a MOTHERFUCKING GRAMMAR MISTAKE IN IT
It’s not even REALLY a mistake it’s more like an IMPRECISION and it’s FUCKING KILLING ME and I have lost my ability to english but bear with me
When two vowels near each other from other words, one disappears and there’s a fucking apostrophe ik this to be true in French and Italian idk in other languages
Like in French you don’t say “je me appelle” you say “je m’appelle”
So it’s NICO D’ANGELO not DI ANGELO like I get it it’s a fucking name but for fucks sake plz
AND D’ANGELO (di Angelo fuck it) IS A FUCKING LAST NAME FROM THE SOUTH NICO IS FROM VENICE WHICH IS FROM THE NORTH
Yeah sure people move his mom could be originally from the south but UGH PLEASE
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louiseacademia · 1 year
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04/27/2023
today i decided to stay home, since i wasn't feeling well when i woke up. it was a good call, i needed rest and didn't wanted to risk an autistic burn out. i studied almost three hours (which is a lot to someone who struggles with severe executive dysfunction) and i'm really proud of myself! i studied african poetry, portuguese narrative and phonology, and Bolinha (my white cat) didn't wanted me to study. 🤍🎀
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soldier-poet-king · 9 months
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In my once again trying to teach myself a new language era because verb forms and declension paradigms and finnicky grammar rules are calming and unemotional and can't possibly make me burst into tears
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