#jack kline supernatural

[soullessjack]

listen i get your frustration about how people treat jack, i hate when people reducd him down to just a destiel baby too. but as an autistic person myself, i really disagree with you calling people that like baby jack ableist. he's canonically 4 years old and had to have his childhood basically stripped away from him due to how dangerous it was. i don't think people enjoying the thought of him getting to have that chance at a happy childhood is as cruel and evil as you seem to think.

hi, I’m actually going to answer this differently than I did at first, because I feel like I missed the point and spent way too much time on the canon logistics of “giving Jack a childhood that he chose to skip and is never shown to want,” or that he’s actually pretty obviously portrayed as a teenager in the show, or that his character fundamentally revolves around autonomy & the struggle to have it, and not enough on the actual ableism. I’m also going to be a lot meaner this time, sorry.

honestly, you don’t get my frustrations. you don’t get that this isn’t some petty fandom drama about “muh fav being misunderstood” or “grr this content bad.” you don’t get my frustration if you think that’s all there is to any of this. this is something with an actual bearing on reality and the entire topic of representation in general, which you’d get if you took your head out of your ass and looked around for once. autistic people are still immensely underrepresented and misrepresented in most mainstream media. we are still seen and treated as circus animals, as punchlines, as lesser humans if not subhumans, and we have to face that alongside navigating a world that is wholly and systemically unnavigable to us. fiction and fandoms are an escape for many people, but especially marginalized people who long for community and representation.

the autistic community has a pretty long history of resonating with nonhuman characters in fiction over time, from robots to aliens to monsters in horror movies. because whether it’s their mannerisms or specific struggles or even narrative experiences, they resonate with us. jack resonates with us. he’s important to us as autistic people—and namely, as autistic adults who very rarely see ourselves represented in ways that don’t depict us as gross man-children, infantilized precious beans or emotionless geniuses. in fact, the very notion that autistic people are inherently childlike or mentally children directly leads into our sole representation being children, and even more into the treatment of us as “precious small beans.” does that ring any fucking bells to you yet?

jack might not have been intentionally written with autism or representation on mind, but this fandom literally builds itself up on coding and unintentional implications. he was also confirmed to be autistic anyways, so anyone still whining should just grow the fuck up about it. also, ironically, most accidentally autistic characters end up being the best kind lmao. but these discussions? these analyses by autistic fans —and even just fans who actually care about his complexities — only exist within our own little circles, and the idea of baby!jack is very much the fandom’s steadfastly going mainstream version of him—so much so that people are convinced it’s actually canon, they die on that hill like it’s some obligation to uphold. and any viewing of his canon character with nuance or complexity, or even his basic personality, is left to gather dust. it stops becoming people having fun when it’s over-saturating and supersedes actual canon. it stops becoming people having fun when it’s actually fucking harmful.

it’s frustrating as a general fan, but downright upsetting as an autistic fan who sees themself in him and has to witness every fucking day — in a community that prides itself on being a big found family no less — the infantilization of traits I and other autistic people express, and the stubborn justification of him being “actually a toddler” with even more autistic traits. There are literal scraps of canon adult Jack content to engage with; of any semi-intelligent thoughts on him to indulge in.

what you don’t get (or you refuse to get) that there is a direct correlation between all of this, the way jack is treated (ie ‘reduced to a destiel baby’) and the ableist infantilization surrounding his character. as in, this content directly feeds into his treatment, which then feeds back into the content made of him, which then feeds back again into his treatment in a horrible and exhausting cycle.

what you don’t get is that constantly regurgitating content where the baseline is jack being actively stripped of his identity and autonomy for the sake of becoming an accessory to Destiel/Sastiel/the Domestic Winchester Family is inherently rooted in layers of deep ableist rhetoric, and you can perpetuate all of that even without any intent for it. I’m not a fucking moron, and I’m not the big bad guy you’re talking to me like. I don’t think anyone who enjoys baby!jack is inherently “cruel” or “evil,” or turning jack into a baby while thinking “this’ll stick one to those retards,” and twirling their moustache, okay? and it’s really so funny to me that you’re trying to point the finger back at me. at least you tried.

what you don’t get is that whenever autistic fans voice our perspective on baby!jack, we’re fucking ignored. we’re fed the same rotten slop over and over and over again. “But we want him to be happy!” “But it’s an AU, it’s not canon!” “But he actually is a baby because XYZ!” “But, but!” Buts are not an argument, they’re the thing you still haven’t found a way to pull your heads out of. maybe the lack of oxygen from so many people in one small dark space is why you’re so fucking stubborn to understand this.

you wanna know what is cruel? being told that you are doing something hurtful, something harmful and something that painfully reflects real life struggles a real community goes through, and shrugging it off. being aware of the value something brings to someone else, and stripping it away simply because it doesn’t matter to you personally. finding another But or a corner-cut to excuse yourself from blame. you didn’t have the decency to listen when general fans said “hey this is kind of annoying can we treat him like an actual person,” and you don’t even have the decency to concede when autistic people are saying this is a deeply wrong thing to do.

if you have to ignore an entire community’s voice to feel better about the content you’re making that directly hurts them, if you don’t personally think it’s harmful or even real because autistic struggles are never real, then I am well within reason to assume you’re not a good person. it’s one thing to do something wrong because you’re uninformed, and it’s another thing entirely to continue to do that when you’ve been informed, and simply decided that it wasn’t worth changing or stopping.

believe me, as an autistic person I am well used to being isolated, to not being anyone’s priority in this capitalistic circle of hell. I am ready to expect my struggles and existence to be tokenized for somebody else to feel good, or squeeze money from. Im used to seeing movies portray my experience as some Manic Pixie Star-seed or creepy overgrown child. I know the world doesn’t care about me. But I don’t think I’m asking too much for this, the big found family fandom that’s been shown to care so much about every other problem, to care about me. To listen when it’s hurting me, or uplift something I care about.

I don’t think I’m asking for anything less than this family to actually treat me like I am part of it. But can you even do that?

#holdthypeace.txt #spn #supernatural #jack kline #autistic jack kline #spn fandom #baby jack #baby jack au #team free will 2.0 #tfw2.0 #sam winchester #dean winchester #castiel #dadstiel #destiel #deancas #domestic destiel #supernatural fandom #fandom criticism #jack kline supernatural #jack spn #autistic characters #sorry this got so long lol I hope it isn’t too much for you to read #not even going into how jackgirls in general have no fandom presence that isn’t self contained #the autistic experience is being isolated everywhere forever for something everyone knows except you. #sastiel #toddler jack kline #spn family

[corinthian-og-begay-docrime]

Kinda sucks that if a character’s trauma isn’t palatable people will turn on them. 🥲🙃

Like oh you cant infantilize and uwuify them??? Damn okay

#this is absolutely insane #some of y’all are on think ice #this is about all fandoms #but i an thinkinh of a specific character #anyways #reblog with traumatized characters you think are done dirty by the fandom #ill go first #gale of waterdeep #jack kline supernatural

[psihish]

Jack Kline aesthetic

#supernatural #aestethic #spn #aestheitcs #jack kline #jack kline spn #jack kline supernatural #jack kline aesthetic #jack kline spn aesthetic #jack kline supernatural aesthetic #nefilim #lucifer spn #kellie kline #nefilim aesthetic

[unhinged-jackles]

#supernatural #spn #castiel #dean winchester #misha collins #jensen ackles #destiel #sam winchester #jack kline

[uh-ohspaghettio]

Season 1: Daddy issues

Season 2: Daddy issues 2: electric boogaloo

Season 3: quirky lil psychic boy things

Season 4: gay angel?

Season 5: ultimate meatsuit™️

Season 6: oh no the gay angel’s psyche is fracturing

Season 7: Dicks

Season 8: live laugh love lobotomy

Season 9: but ultimately it was just for one man

Season 10: toxic bromance

Season 11: they hate to see a girlboss winning

Season 12: pro-abortions

Season 13: beefing with a baby (in grey scale)

Season 14: coming out my cage and I’ve been doing not fine

Season 15: family bonding time! let’s fight God!

#spn #supernatural #castiel #dean winchester #sam winchester #jack kline #spn crowley

[pinknatural]

HAPPY 45th BIRTHDAY DEAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#supernatural #dean winchester #castiel #destiel #<- not really mentioned but it's there trust me #sam winchester #eileen leahy #jack kline #arttag #deansbirthdaybash #chocolatecakecas

[drulalovescas]

I'm sorry but if Supernatural didn't want us to believe Dean and Cas were a married couple with a son, they wouldn't have cast Alex to play Jack.

Jack literally looks like a cross between Dean and Cas helppppp

#the casting department was insane #one of the best things about supernatural truly #destiel #castiel #dean winchester #jack kline #supernatural #spn

[moonflowerfeathers]

supernatural x tumblr posts

#spn #supernatural #destiel #castiel #dean winchester #deancas #jack kline #if anyone’s confused the second to last one is about Dean but Jack’s in there so he’s tagged #supernatural crack #destiel crack #spn memes #spn crack #supernatural memes

[morganaconda]

castiel in therapy: there's tension because my son murdered my husbands mother. dean is 37, but his mother is only 29 so she had a lot of life left to live. my son? he's two. I had him a little late as I myself am about 4 billion years old

#like this show is not real #spn #supernatural #destiel #deancas #castiel #cas #dean #dean winchester #jack kline #spnblr

[hrast-ika]

gaslighting all of you (and myself) into thinking this was the real spn finale, where the fam and wayward sisters go to the beach and have a good ol time (i am never gonna finish these so i might as well post them on this special day)

#spn #supernatural #the real spn finale #nov 5th #my art #my stuff #destiel #fanart #dean winchester #sam winchester #castiel #jack kline #wayward sisters #eileen leahy #deancas #digital art

[jonasdirection101]

Jack: “DAAAAAAAAAAAAD, Claire is being mean to me!”

Castiel: “If you continue doing that, Claire, you won't have ice-cream as dessert.”

Dean: “But we still love you.”

Castiel, looking at Dean: “Why do you say that everytime I'm scolding one of them?”

Dean: “I'm…”

Castiel: “Don't answer! You're going to say something sad. Then I'll feel bad for you and then I'll want to kill your dad.”

#incorrect quotes #supernatural incorrect quotes #incorrect supernatural quotes #dean winchester #castiel #destiel #deancas #casdean #cas x dean #cas and dean #dean x castiel #claire novak #jack winchester #jack kline

[soullessjack]

post this jack when they least expect it

#spn #supernatural #jack kline #jack kline supernatural #jack kline winchester #jack spn #jack winchester #jack supernatural #spn fandom #spn family #spn 14x06 #14x06 optimism #spn 14x07 #byzantium #spn season 14 #spn screencaps #spn posting #jackposting #I can’t do this anymore I need to have gay boy sex with him and I will not be afraid to say that

[bvrtysbvtches]

sometimes a found family is the son of satan, a gay angel, his husband, and A Guy™

#btw this is not sam slander #oh and rowena is the wine aunt ofc #sam winchester #dean winchester #destiel #dean cas #castiel spn #castiel supernatural #jack kline #jack spn #jack supernatural #rowena macleod #supernatural #spn

[hxnnibxi]

i will forever be mad that dean winchester (the man who always emotionaly bonded with the kids/teens that were involved in cases) was written to be like that towards jack. jack deserved the dean that would've made him feel safe, not the dean that made him hate himself. jack kline deserved every good thing he didn't get.

#forever and always a dean winchester girl but god i cant stand how he treated jack it genuinely angers me #dean winchester #jack kline #supernatural #spn

[unhinged-jackles]

#supernatural #spn #castiel #dean winchester #destiel #jensen ackles #spnwin #the winchesters #bobby singer #jack kline #drake rodger #meg donnelly #jojo fleites #nida khurshid #john winchester #mary winchester #i love you meme #spnwin 1x13 #the winchesters finale

[captainchilly]

"Well, you guys go Highway to Heaven that bitch." ↳ 15.15 - GIMME SHELTER

#spnedit #supernatural #supernaturaledit #spn #castiel #jack kline #castieledit #jackklineedit #spn 15x15 #captainchilly gifs #500 #1k