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headcanonthings · 9 days

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Joe: How was the honeymoon? Copely: Book got drunk and tried to burn our marriage certificate. Copely: He said, "Good luck trying to return me without the receipt".

#incorrect quotes #incorrect old guard quotes #the old guard #joe al kaysani #yusuf al kaysani #james copley #booker old guard #sebastian le livre #bopely

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normal-thoughts-official · 1 year

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[ID: A The Old Guard meme based on headlines about celebrity quotes. The headlines are: "Sebastien le Livre: 'I'll do anything. I'm a bit of a slut that way'"; "James Copley says he goes to gay bars to avoid fights at straight venues"; "Quỳnh: 'I've thought about murder many times'"; and "Nicolò di Genova: 'I'm a medieval knight, of course I've had gay sex'". End ID]

This is not what Andy meant when she told them to lay low

#the old guard #tog #sebastien le livre #james copley #quynh #quynh the old guard #nicolò di genova #nicolo di genova #described #overflowing trashcan

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dormiveglia-dreamer · 1 year

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the team standing in front of a broken coffee pot

Andy: So, who broke it? I’m not mad, I just want to know.

Nile: I did, I broke it-

Andy: No, no you didn’t. Joe?

Joe: Don’t look at me, look at Booker.

Booker: What? I didn’t break it!

Joe: Huh, that’s weird. How’d you even know it was broken?

Booker: Because it’s sitting right in front of us, and it’s broken.

Joe: Suspicious!

Booker: No, it’s not!

Copley: Look, if it matters, Nicky was the last one to use it.

Nicky: Liar! I don’t even drink that crap!

Copley: Oh really? Then what were you doing by the coffee cart earlier?

Nicky: I use the wooden stirrers to push back my cuticles, everyone knows that, Copley!

Nile: Alright, let’s not fight, I broke it, let me pay for it Andy.

Andy: No! Who broke it?!

Booker [whispering]: Andy, Quynh’s been awfully quiet-

Quynh: Really?!

Booker: Yeah, really!

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Andy: I broke it. It burned my hand so I punched it. I predict ten minutes from now they’ll be at each other’s throats with warpaint on their faces, and a pig head on a stick. Good. It was getting a little too chummy around here.

#incorrect quotes #this might be slightly ooc but I don’t care #the old guard #andromache the scythian #booker the old guard #nicky the old guard #joe the old guard #quynh the old guard #nile freeman #nile the old guard #copley the old guard #james copley #andy the old guard

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celia-bracali · 1 month

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"The Old Guard" fic recommendation:

"Live By The Sword" by Kaerith

Summary:

Nicky feels like he’s the only true human being in the room; he’s the only one shifting with discomfort and wrinkling his nose and feeling so sick at watching what’s going on. “Hey,” he says to the scientists, “Can’t you knock him out while you do that?”

“Why should we? We don’t have the budget for sedatives or pain killers.” One of the scientists says blandly, and that makes Nicky feel like he’s been shoved over an abyss. There should be empathy, or professional courtesy, or common decency, but there’s just a blank look of slight annoyance.

Instead of killing the doctor like he really wants to, Nicky pulls his silenced handgun from a pocket and shoots the victim in the head. “They’re immortal and I don’t get off on watching people writhe in pain. Even if drugs aren’t in the budget you can bet bullets are."

#tog #the old guard #tog fic #nicolo di genova #yusuf al-kaysani #joe | yusuf al kaysani/nicky | nicolò di genova #fic #fanfic #fanfic rec #andy | andromache of scythia #nile freeman #booker | sebastian le livre #quynh the old guard #james copley #Alternate Universe - Different First Meeting

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hitchell-mope · 4 months

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Supergirl/The Old Guard au.

Before anyone complains. I wanted to keep the archetypes as best I could. Which meant trying to keep canon as best I could. And since I don’t have any canon m/m pairings. I thought the Krypton/Daxam feud was the best route possible. So I used karamel for Nicky and Joe. I also can’t imagine Brainy, James or Winn betraying anyone out of sheer exhaustion. So I used Morgan. But we all know Lena loves experimenting on people. So she fit the best of all. As for Nia. She’s the new girl on the team. Just like Nile was. So yeah. That’s my reasoning. I know they don’t all quite fit. But I did my best.

Alex. Andy.

Kara. Nicky.

Mon El. Joe.

Nia. Nile

Morgan. Booker.

J’onn. Copley

Kelly. Quyhn

Lena. Merrick.

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headcanonthings · 1 year

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Booker: Are you a toaster? Because I wanna take a bath with you.

Copley: Please seek help

#incorrect quotes #incorrect old guard quotes #the old guard #booker old guard #sebastian le livre #james copley #bopley

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raetttriestowrite · 1 year

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Rating: Teen And Up Audiences Archive Warning: No Archive Warnings Apply Fandoms: Assassin's Creed - All Media Types, The Old Guard (Movie 2020) Relationships: Joe | Yusuf Al-Kaysani/Nicky | Nicolò di Genova, Booker | Sebastien le Livre & Quynh | Noriko Characters: Booker | Sebastien le Livre, Quynh | Noriko, Desmond Miles, Andy | Andromache of Scythia, Joe | Yusuf Al-Kaysani, Nicky | Nicolò di Genova, Nile Freeman, James Copley Additional Tags: Guilt, PTSD, Post-Mission, Nightmares, Platonic Bed-sharing, Booker needs a hug, Coffee, coffee-related abominations, eagle vision - Freeform, Coping Mechanisms, Found Family, polyglotism Series: Part 11 of Bless This Mess, This Mess Is Mine

Summary:

Booker's free from Abstergo, but that's hardly the end of his problems. Actually, he'd say it's just a speed bump, when compared to everything else.

#I'm Standing Here Until You Make Me Move #bless this mess this mess is mine #btmtmim #assassin's creed #the old guard #raetttriestowrite #fanfiction #Booker #sebastien le livre #Quynh #Desmond Miles #andromache of scythia #joe al kaysani #nicolo di genova #nile freeman #james copley

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normal-thoughts-official · 1 year

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Do find it interesting how Copley's entire character is based on denial. Especially when it comes to his involvement in the key plot points.

He's in denial about his wife. Even if he admits that she is dead, he refuses to move on. It's been two years, and he still wears the wedding band. Just in that very short scene of him in his office we see two pictures of her (one of their wedding on the shelf and one of her right in between his PC monitors, so she's always in his peripheral vision at least). Someone who wanted to move on would have kept the pictures somewhere to look at when they felt the need, not exactly where they were before, as a constant reminder of her passing. And they definitely wouldn't keep wearing the wedding band.

What I'm trying to say is that even though Copley, obviously, knows rationally that his wife is dead, subconsciously he is still in denial because he refuses to move on. And because he refuses to move on, he keeps trying to find a way to do something about it. He obsessively follows the immortals and Merrick (who is specifically looking into making cures for the type of disease that killed Copley's wife) looking for a way to help cure her illness, because it is the closest he can get to curing his wife. To making up for not being able to save her. To rewriting what happened to his family. (And if he ever got that, he'd have to face the fact that he can't bring his wife back and actually process his grief instead of trying to Do Something To Stop ALS as a means of putting off facing her death).

The entire plot wouldn't have happened if Copley hadn't been in denial about the fact that there is nothing left for him to do about his wife. If he hadn't refused to process his grief by choosing to obsess over finding a cure to ALS instead, he wouldn't have found out about the Guard's immortality, and wouldn't have sold them out to Merrick.

But it doesn't stop there. Even his small decisions are driven by denial. I always laugh at the "there was an unanticipated amount of carnage" because Copley. James. Babygirl. They are immortal mercenaries who have fought in more wars than most people learn of in school. We know that they're trying to do good and don't like killing, but we also know they're willing to. And with a secret this big at risk of being revealed, there is no way they'd have left anyone get out of that room alive.

Which someone as smart as Copley, who's ex-CIA, for crying out loud, should have predicted. The only way Copley could have possibly believed that his little trap wouldn't end in a bloodbath is if he was neck-deep in denial of the fact that his plan would kill innocents. Because again, Copley desperately needs to believe that he's doing good, that he's working for the sake of humanity, that he will save his wife people

And sure, he could have been lying about not anticipating it, but judging by: the fact that he doesn't need to because Merrick doesn't give a fuck; the fact that the carnage actually got in the way of his plans, because he couldn't get DNA samples; and his horrified look as he watched the footage, I really don't think that he was. I think he genuinely, truly did not expect that it would be (so) bloody. Or, more accurately, didn't want to believe it would, or maybe didn't even want to think about what the consequences of his trap would be beyond "I get the samples, ASL is cured". He was laser focused on his goal, and he didn't see anything else. If Copley hadn't been in denial about this, his trap would probably have been set up differently, at the very least.

And then, of course, the entire second half is a parade of Copley being in denial about the obvious, completely unmistakable fact that Merrick is a piece of shit who could not care less about helping people. Merrick isn't even trying to pretend otherwise. Yet Copley is surprised by his complete lack of ethics. The way he screams "Mr Merrick!" when Merrick starts stabbing Joe, like anyone in the world didn't see that coming; his "this is about science, not profits, or sadism" like he truly believed that's what it was for them; warning him that "this would be murder" like Merrick cared; the genuinely shocked "for... ever?"; the "no, this is not what we agreed" when this is exactly what they agreed on. The agreement was that he would bring Merrick the immortals and he would experiment on them to make medicine. He had to have known forced experimentation and potential murder was what was going to happen, especially because Merrick took 0 efforts to not make that obvious. But somehow Copley had convinced himself that they would get DNA samples and then leave them alone, which is an insane assumption to make after everything Merrick's done and said.

But Merrick's company was working on a cure for degenerative diseases. They could, very soon, cure ALS. So Copley needed it to be him, needed him to be interested in doing this ethically, needed to believe that, once again, his brilliant plan wasn't actually just hurting more innocents in a desperate quest to save a dead woman.

Because Copley does believe in doing good. We know that because no one who doesn't actually, deeply care about humanity would go looking into what happened to all the people that the Guard saved. Just the fact that he researched that, tried to find out what happened to the victims, shows that he is a very compassionate person with a very humanized perspective on war and conflict. He went looking into generations of descendants of people saved by the Guard. I don't think most people would even bother to think of looking at what happened to them beyond being a footnote in the Guard's history, especially not anyone as obsessed with them as Copley was. But Copley did. He looked into every single person, and what happened to them.

Taking that into account, as well as the fact that Copley was genuinely fighting Merrick on his decisions, I think that Copley - unlike Merrick, Keane, and Kozak - does care about doing the whole thing ethically. The thing, of course, is that without their consent that is impossible, which Copley is too smart and compassionate not to know. But letting them go would mean facing that there won't be a miracle cure for his wife, and he cannot handle admitting that. So, he adds "trying to convince himself this could be in any way ethical and he can convince Merrick to do it that way" to the list of completely out of touch beliefs he's been holding because of denial.

The result is that even though he obviously knew that Merrick was a fucking piece of shit (just the fact that he added "or sadism" proves that), he didn't actually face that as a fact until the moment Nile confronted him and he said "they are in the lab, being tested" and then closed his eyes and went, "tortured". Again, denial made an appearance, but this time he made the conscious decision to take a deep breath and stop lying to himself. This is the first time he acknowledges what's actually going on there, and by proxy, his part in it. And all it took was being quite literally hit over the head with it, as well as possibly killing the single person who's made the most good in the history of humanity. But I digress.

It is also in that same confrontation with Nile that he finally admits the obvious - that he was trying to save someone who was gone. He says he wants to help humanity, but in the end he's only being truly honest about his motives when he says "she couldn't talk, my wife. In the end." This is also the first and only time we see him actually mourning his wife, because it is the first time he is in any way processing that her death was final. Up until then, he only talked about her detachedly, and kept all these mementos of her like she still lived in the house.

And that's why his confrontation with Nile is also the shift of his loyalties. Because it is the point in which he breaks his cycle of denial and admits that his wife is gone, he can't save her, and that in trying to do so he's hurt innocents and handed them over to a greedy asshole. And once he finally, finally faces that, he realizes he has to do something about it. Which is why he helps Nile and wants to storm the place with her, insists on it, admits that pharma CEO's are full of shit ("what kind of CEO walks around with his own personal army?" "these days? Most of them"), and agrees to help erase the Guard's footprints. And even though Copley was (or wanted to believe he was) good-intentioned, he wasn't able to do good until he stopped lying to himself.

So Copley's denial is what shaped the way the whole movie goes - if he weren't in denial he wouldn't have found out about the Guard's immortality, wouldn't have set them up the way he did, wouldn't have sold them out to Merrick specifically, and wouldn't have allowed Merrick to continue for as long as he did. And once he got over the denial, that was also a point that helped shape the resolution of the plot (I'm sure Nile would have found everyone anyway, but Copley's help did speed up the process). And I find it interesting how this one thread of how he chose to deal with his grief ended up not only defining his character, but the course of events in the movie - despite the fact that he's not a main character.

Which actually also ties off in a really interesting perspective where most of the things that happen over the course of the movie are dictated by the characters' refusal to try to get better. The whole movie would be heading towards a massive tragedy, Greek-style, if there weren't a character who is quite literally defined by her refusal to go with the tide - Nile. Unlike Andy, Booker, and Copley, who let their grief and self destruction take over their life, and Joe and Nicky (+Booker again), who let Andy make all the relevant family decisions, Nile refuses to let anyone or anything decide her fate for her. She doesn't defer to Andy just because Andy is the oldest and very clearly capable; she fights her at nearly every turn, even when it's impossible for her to win, because she is not willing to compromise her beliefs or let anyone dictate what she's going to do. She will do it if she believes in it, and only then. And Nile also isn't willing to listen to Copley's bullshit, which forces him to face what he's been trying to hide from himself.

So, you know - maybe this is the why Nile. Because she's young and strongheaded, and so she holds the hope and the possibility of doing things differently. Of choosing your potential future. And that's why she makes Andy realize that she's been doing a shit job of living, but she can do different.

Although this might be a different analysis altogether. My point with this one was - Copley's tendency towards denial was one of the most powerful forces shaping the course of events in the movie. And Nile's unwavering sense of morality and freedom of choice was the opposing force.

PS so there are no doubts about it: I'm not saying that what Copley did was justified or that you have to like him. This is a character analysis and nothing more, or less.

#wrote this under the influence of sleeping meds will find out if it made any sense tomorrow #tog #the old guard #james copley #copley tog #meta #long post #update from 'tomorrow': yeah sure i'll publish this #there were so many typos lmao #copley you fucked up little idiot you are so fucking stupid (affectionate)#im sorry i cant help but love him

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asamandra · 2 years

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Whumptober 2022 - Day 11

“911, what’s your emergency?” - Makeshift splint

“It’s for you,” Nile said when she came into the kitchen, the phone in her hand. Nicky looked up when she held it out for him, then looked at his hands and frowned. He was just making pizza dough and his hands were dirty.

“I… who is it?” he asked.

“It’s Copley,” she said, still holding the phone.

“Is it important?�� Nicky wanted to know.

Nile put the phone back to her ear.

“Is it important?” she asked while Nicky watched her. First her brows hit her hairline then she looked up, moved the phone and put whoever was on the other end on speakerphone.

“... hurts and I don’t know who else to call at the moment,” James Copley just said.

“What happened?” Nicky asked because he couldn’t hear the first part of his sentence. Copley was quiet for a moment.

“It’s a medical emergency,” he said. “I know you’re a doctor, Nicky, and I need your help, please.”

Nicky looked at his almost done dough, sighed and turned around to the sink to wash his hands.

“I’m on my way,” he said. “Could you please…” he gestured at the half done dough and looked at Nile.

“Sure,” she said after quitting the call. “He’s in his house, he had said.”

“All right,” Nicky sighed again. He hated to throw away food but if he left now the dough would be ruined. But if it was a medical emergency he had to go.

Joe was with Andy in the garden, sparring.

“I’ll tell them where you are,” Nile said when he looked in their direction. Nicky smiled thankfully at her, wiped his hands dry and grabbed the car keys.

It took him twenty-five minutes to Copley’s house and when he arrived he parked in front of the door, found it unlocked and went in.

“Copley?” he called. “James?”

“I’m here,” he could hear the man call from upstairs. He found him in his bedroom.

Nicky had expected many things, but not that. Copley lay in his bed, covered up to his chin and looked… guilty?

“What happened? Nicky asked when he entered the bedroom. He looked around curiously.

“It’s..” Copley said and licked his lips, “... awkward.”

“I’m a doctor,” Nicky said. “You can tell me. Doctor-patient confidentiality.”

“All right,” Copley said and removed his blanket. Nicky looked, blinked, then raised a brow and looked up.

“Okay,” he said. “How…”

On the left and the right side of Copley’s knees were white pickets, wrapped tightly with crime scene tape.

“I went for a jog and…” he scratched the back of his neck. “There was this woman walking her dog and she was pretty and… and for a moment… I didn’t see the leash.”

“And why didn’t you call the ambulance?” Nicky asked.

“She… she asked me if I was okay and I said yes and then… she gave me her number and… I have a date tomorrow and…”

“And what do you expect me to do now? I can’t magically heal your leg,” Nicky said while sitting down on the bed, carefully starting to remove the tape.

“I have a date,” Copley said. “I haven’t had a date in years and…”

Nicky sighed.

“What I can do is to make a better splint and to give you some crutches,” he said. “I’m a doctor, not a magician.”

“Crutches? Nicky, I have a date! With a woman!” Copley blurted and Nicky shrugged apologetically.

“You decide,” he grinned. “My splint or emergency room.”

“Fine,” Copley grumbled. “Do it already.”

#whumptober2022 #no.11 #makeshift splint #the old guard #fic #nicolò di genova #nile freeman #james copley

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