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marengogo · 1 year

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Rambling in INFJese - Part 9: Dear Future Baby Jikooker and Some Jikookers as well…

Listening to album D-DAY - by Agust D ON REPEAT

[Music is a very big part of my life and I’m MOSTLY INCAPABLE of writing without music, so I just thought I'd share what I am listening to while writing this]

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Dear Future Baby Jikooker,

Here is a letter from me to you, who have just stepped into this curious neck of the woods, but also for Jikookers, who presently might feel lost, in this neck of the woods. This is going to be a long-ass post, ops 😬. In my defence, it could have been even much longer than it is, but let’s be real, there is only so much you might be willing to read at this stage and, at the same time, only so much I can write before I stray well out of topic. BUT let’s start with a welcome, shall we? A very big welcome to those of you who have decided, for one reason or another and we will touch on that to be “Jikookers”. Welcome and congratulations: you’ve officially picked the most fear-inducing, hate-provoking, blasted-ass ship, perhaps, in history but that is just my perception, admittedly, Cleopatra and Mark Anthony might have been good contenders, by the fandom they belong to and most of all shippers within the fandom as well.

SO YES, welcome welcome welcome to the Tumblr side of Jikook things! Now, before we dive deeper into what awaits in my post, and most importantly, into Jikook-world, it’s best we get one thing straight, right off the bat:

Mmm … you might have already known this, in fact you are probably looking at me like “You ain’t gotta tell me that, bitch, like …” but truuuust me when I tell you that this is not as obvious or as known a fact as it ought to be … chiiiiiile 😩.

That being said, there are usually two main starting points for people who end up here, and by here, I don’t mean specifically Jikook-Tumblr, but Jikook-world in general:

You have been ARMY / BTS fans / JK and/or JM bias for a while and are thus familiar with all members in BTS at a level that is above avarage.

You have no clue about anything-BTS, but you heard that there is this “couple” in BTS, so the name of the other members is probably as much as you might know.

As you are ultimately here because of a possible romantic relationship between JK and JM, whether you are 1 or 2 doesn’t make you any better or worse than being 2 or 1. What it does however, is that it will 100% influence and condition the experience you might/will have. That, in addition with the answer to the following question which I highly suggest you ask yourself before you fully step in:

“Why am I here?”

… Perhaps “I believe Jikook is 100% real”, or “I wonder: is Jikook even real right now?”, or “I have reason to believe that Jikook might be, but actually …”, or “I’m not saying but I’m saying, Jikook?!”, or “IDGAF I just think they look good together”, etc etc etc. Trust me, there is a Jikook blog that aligns with any and all conscious and subconscious states of mind, beliefs and/or opinions. So as you proceed, you will or might not realise that some blogs simply want to find people who are like-minded, some blogs just want to rave, rant and talk about the boys to their heart's content, some blogs want to build a following/clout, and some blogs might be up to no good amongst these, some might not even realise that they are….

I, for one, got into the Jikook-world coming from type 1. BTS found me when I needed them the most and I just ended up loving all 7 of them, in different ways, but all 7 nonetheless AND as you might or might not know, I am indeed OT7. One day, as it happens to all of us, I stumbled on a shipping video on YT, it was a Taejin one: I clicked. To begin I was initially shocked that BTS would still have ships at the point in their career (this was around 2021) and I actually thought Taejin to be real … and then you see SOPE, Namjin, taekook, there were so many and all had their reasons etc. After a while I just found them all very cute and didn’t take them seriously at all.

Eventually, somehow, a Jikook video by Made in Busan appeared, I watched it and that was it: … I felt something. But even though I did feel something, I tried to ignore it because as a queer person pansexual I mostly walk around with my invisible hope on my sleeves ALL THE TIMES. So it felt that, once again, for the one millionth time, I would end up wanting them to be so real that the disappointment would crush me, making me feel that once again, people like me are undeserving of love, or at the very least, African and Asian countries are never going to accept this. At this very moment a great part of the USA, and certain parts of Europe, are the only places where famous people and not can live being who they are.

In many other places in this world, particularly African and Asian countries, it is still taboo, dangerous and even life threatening and I am in-between these two types of worlds. So I rejoice everytime a queer couple publically comes out, because even though I know I cannot be them the maximum I can do is go to pride in my pink, yellow and blue outfit it makes me happy to know that had I been born in a different continent, within a different culture, that perhaps, it could have been me. Basically, it feels that happiness for people like me is attainable, even if not for me, if others can safely make it, it would be enough for me for now.

I started from YT and WHAT A MESS IT TURNED OUT TO BE. I made the very big mistake of thinking that because jikook was so rare in the fandom, then people who believed in them were just like me trying to understand kindred spirits. I thought that we were in this to protect and potentially, if time ever would allow, to support what would have become a very influential gay couple. But as time passed, before I knew it, I found myself within the episode of the most toxic BL where, everyone heard voices, many betrayed each other for affection, all slept with each other to spite all, and some resorted to using fans in order to bully each other. The more accounts with this mentality started to appear, the more normal accounts started to disappear. It got to a point were I, a person whom in the meantime had forgotten was a OT7, started to believe that some members were indeed narcissist and any other non-self diagnosable trait. WHEN I REALISED I had to take a BIG-ASS breath, slap myself out of fiction and get-out-style-ran myself back into reality: LIKE … WHAT THE FUCK HAD JUST HAPPENED?!

I had completely forgotten about who BTS were, I got entirely lost in the wrong side of the woods for me, basically I completely forgot why I was even there in the first place! When I then myself in the only youtube channel I trusted at the time, who also suggested we should check a certain blog on Tumblr, when I did, I found a kindred spirit and never went back to YT (by that time wonsummernight had left, Made in Busan, like MizGator, were all gone). There was no forced narrative, the logical consideration of events, the unexplainable emotion of others, it was up the alley I had wanted to be. It brought it back to me just supporting real maybe-queer people like me, rather than fighting over fictional characters in a drama that had nothing to do with me at all.

I regained my rationality, and peacefully lurked, until I got curious about certain topics and decided to send in asks, or just wanted to send words of encouragement to other blogs I began to like and were constantly attacked. Eventually I realised my side of the woods was also thinning out, and because I felt like I had a lot to say as well I began this blog, to just talk, talk and talk. It was fun talking, revisiting Jikook moments with other people who thought alike or people who respectfully didn’t and still kept it at a healthy level. Speaking with other queer folk was also a perk. I literally had no expectations upon coming on Tumblr, I just wanted to keep up with Jikook, while keeping my sanity and rationality. Writing my thoughts about them also helped me lay out my opinions and, through educated speculation, maybe realise things about Jikook hadn’t before and so on and so forth. As things stand in this very moment, within my boundaries, I still believe there is something between them. Chapter 2 is what, surprising, turning out to be as I predicted it would be, to a T except for JK’s weverse, that I couldn’t predict not a single one, for shit it is all very interesting to be honest, and though I can know see things will only get harder from here on, it is okay.

Even though this place feels like it is about to become another, YT, twitter, etc. It is okay. I never had any expectations to begin with, but the fact that I know where I stand in my Jikook neck of the woods, makes my anger towards some bullshit very well directed towards said bullshit, and never towards jikook, BTS or any unrelated parties. I like that when I log off my life goes on. I love that even though I have times when I miss them a lot, it is just that and I am not going crazy over it. In the same way I love that there is a chance that within this global powerhouse of a band there might be somebody that loves like me. In the queer way I, and many others, do.

So my dear future Baby Jikooker, find out why you are here. Understand what it is you want. If it is being in delulu-land that is perfectly fine I also go there from time to time, I find it fun, and when things actually happen right from delulu-land it makes it even more fun! Just gotta trade carefully, that's all. If you wanna find friends, if you wanna talk, whatever it is, just be aware of your decisions, and possible consequences, and you will not be disappointed, hurt or disillusioned, in the long run. If you don’t like all the other members, at the very lease please respect them, because Jikook surely do love them.

If you find that this environment is becoming too much for you, protect yourself the best way you can, leave if you need to, you have the right to do so. As you keep exploring make sure to find the blog that is right for you, and if you feel like it is what you want, write your own. If something feels too good to be true, check sources, always, original content is always available. If you are okay for them to be too good to be true, then do you, it is your experience, just be mindful not to ruin it for others and I hope nobody ruins it for you.

So once again, WELCOME TO JIKOOK-WORLD. I hope you don’t get too lost and you find what you were looking for. I hope you come out of it alive, if at some point you decide to run away. And if you survive all the bullshit that might take place between now and their military service (MS), if you are still around, and Jikook just so happen to be who we think they might be; then I’ll see you on the other side, or if you want come holla.

Always respectfully yours,

Marengo.

#Rambling in INFJese #Baby Jikookers #Veteran Jikookers #Jikookers #Jikook

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sizzlingpatrolfox · 5 months

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Armys and Jkkrs normalized the hate on jimin, i feel jkkrs played their role in getting hate on him. 1) Shipping non-existent couple in a way they always be on ass of tkkr i.e provoking just like jjks on pjms (i see something here) & 2) They started anti-v too, when asked they give validation "tkkrs hating jimin for same reasons". Btw jimin is frnd with v but god forbid if pjms are disliking jk for any reason then they are anti-jimin because pjms hating his frnd/bf/love (hypocrisy, aren't they?). I despise jkkrs n their fave solos jjks more than ever and armys are useless fandom who are here for sexualizing jk and see him as some trophy just like bts.

Jikookers don't really care about Jimin hate, and that's it. Most of them don't care. They're Jungkook biased or even borderline Jungkook solos, so why should they care that Jimin's life has been threatened and he's been harrassed and defamed for years? It's not precious Jungkookie after all.

I've already talked about this soooo many times, I swear. I just don't really save my posts. But jikookers have also weaponized Jimin's affection for Jimin. I mean what you're saying about them "provoking" taekookers, because that's literally what they've done for years. In all of taekookers' hate tweets you'll always see jikookers bringing up moments where Jimin was being affectionate with Jungkook and use it as a "gotcha moment" that they think proved jikook real. Just to piss taekookers. And the only person getting the short stick out of that has always been Jimin.

They get off on the hate Jimin gets because to them it's validation. "Jikook get hoes mad" "they're threatened" "they hate them because they see there's more" - no, they don't. They hate it because they hate JIMIN. I saw this mostly on twitter, but the most delusional jikookers here also use the same logic. "If they're hating it's because they see more". Sometimes people just hate. This was never a reversed psychology case. "They're gonna be crying" no - they will be sending death threats to Jimin and trying to tell the military that he's gay.

Even today, can you believe that? Even today with JK solos tagging the military and everything, jikookers were on report tweets saying that their love got people mad or whatever. Talking as if they were doing that because they want to break up the jikook couple. No, they're literally doing that because they hate Jimin and they hate that he's not a straight man like Jungkook. They're not doing that because they see a couple, they're doing that because they're mad that the company is trying to sell them something they already DON'T believe in.

Jikookers see Jimin getting hate and to them it's validation for the ship. I kid you not, it makes them feel better. It makes them feel like the ship must be real if it's getting hate. Earlier this year, I don't remember what happened and I saw on twitter a jikooker say "taekookers hating again WE'RE SO BACK".

Literally yesterday I said that jikook has never brought anything good or useful for Jimin, and look what happened today. I will die on this hill. I don't say it just because, I say it all the time because I've been here long enough and I've seen it happen over and over again. If you'd asked me in 2018 or 2019, I would've also told you that jikook was never good for Jimin because I've had to watch the reactions and cry and get angry for years.

The only person ships ever benefitted and still benefit, is Jungkook. It doesn't matter if it's jikook or taekook or even namkook, it all benefits Jungkook the most, sometimes he's the only one of the pair getting anything good from it like with jikook.

Even now with this reality show that was so conveniently arranged to start filming when seven was released, and now there's a whole public schedule filming again in the same week some other Jungkook thing is apparently happening lmao. It's textbook marketing.

Jikookers got angry when I said people shouldn't support Jungkook (jikook content in this case) because to them, getting less engagement would send a message to the company that people aren't interested in jikook content and they were shaking and throwing up over the prospect of not getting more jikook content provided by the company. They said that it would mean Jimin is not attracting audience and it would make the company think there's no demand for him. W T F. The company doesn't give a flying fck about Jimin, to begin with. They could've realized there was demand for him when people spent 8 months asking for a CD restock. I personally don't want anyone to think Jimin is in "demand" because his ship content gets engagement, thank you very much. Taekook already exists. Half or even more of those jikookers are gonna be liking the clips on twitter and then streaming and voting exclusively for Jungkook, just like taekookers are doing. They can keep their engagement.

#jikookers #jimin #im just tagging in case i need to search for it #jikook

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mrs-monaghan · 11 months

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Since we're going by the logic of Jikook are not seen in public together = they have broken up, then my sister's relationship with her husband, who she has a literal child with, is FAKE, because I never see them in public!!!!!! They don't go out! So fake! Outrageous! How ABSURD it is for a long-term couple to want PRIVACY!!!! How dare my sister go out with me/be seen with me in public and not her boyfriend! How dare she have other people in her life!

How even more FLABBERGASTING that a worldwide famous long-term couple living in a homophobic country want to hang out in a totally safe and private way for them! It doesn't matter that their career could end and they could even be arrested, and it doesn't matter that photos of them on white day were leaked, exposing them in an intimate moment, and it doesn't matter that their names were on Dispatch's list, together with other couples that admitted they were together.

HOW DARE Jungkook and Jimin not make out in front of the cameras for us???? How dare Jungkook and Jimin try to protect their privacy after so many leaked pictures and all the stalking?

That's how stupid y'all wishy washy Jikookers and taekookers sound. Babes do you REALLY think Jungkook and Jimin always tell us truth? Do you really think they tell us EVERYTHING that goes on in their lives?

Shouldn't y'all take Taennie as an example? They were going out for God knows how long and they were NEVER spotted. Sure, leaked pictures here and there, which Jikook also have, but they've never seen in public together, either.

It's time y'all use the brains god gave you. Don't be scared of it, yeah? USE IT.

Do you really think they tell us EVERYTHING?

I wanna talk about this. This goes out to the holier than though Jikookers out there who judge us other Jikookers who still believe that the JM on JK's hand is for Jimin.

Anon I agree with you 1013%. Please allow me to hijack your post an address this topic.

Okay so JK went live and said the J stands for Jungkook. Right. I ended up in report pages for saying this on twitter but I will say it again. How many people do you know that tattoo their own names on themselves? No seriously. How many? I said even the most narcissistic person wouldn't do this and I got blocked and reported. But it's true. JK is not a narcissist, far from it even. He has a big heart and loves those around him and loves us Army even when we don't deserve it. That man did not tattoo his name on himself. That's point number 1.

Point 2. Who tf calls him J? He calls himself JK, members call him JK. Everyone calls him JK. The only member we've heard tell us to call him J was Jhope and I think that was "Jay"

Point 3 and what I wanna talk about. No, I'm not calling JK a liar. I am calling him an omiter. He ommited the truth. The point of him explaining the tattoos I believe was to debunk the V/A. Which he did, thank God. But I digress.

Being a Jikooker is based on deducing and analysing. Listening to them, watching them and concluding they're together. They have never outright told us. Alright?

Jimin said, he bit JK.

Jikookers said it was a hickey. Because its right by the mole. Because it didn't fade. Because there were no teeth marks. Okay. Fine. But why do we believe the J stands for Jungkook, but we won't believe when Jimin said he bit JK and no shenanigans were involved?

Jungkook said he goes to Jimin's hotel room because its closer.

Jikookers said it was a lie. He goes because he wants to spend time with Jimin. And he doesn't just sit there for hours and do nothing. He was lying. So why do we believe the J stands for Jungkook, but we won't believe he went to Jimin's room out of convenience?

Jungkook said Jimin wasn't the main model of GCF.

Jikookers said that can't possibly be true because JK highlights Jimin in all the videos and Jimin always gets the most screentime. Okay. So why do we believe the J stands for Jungkook, but we won't believe when he said Jimin wasn't his main model?

JK said he always sleeps in Jihope's room because his bed is uncomfortable.

Jikookers said nah, JK just likes sleeping with Jimin. JK sleeps in that room because he's dating Jimin. They had enough money to get JK a better mattress, so that was clearly just an excuse. So why do we believe the J is for Jungkook, but we didn't believe when he said his own bed was uncomfortable?

JK said he's always recording Jimin because Jimin is always around

Jikookers said that wasn't true because anytime JK has a camera, more often than not he's pointing it at Jimin. Even when sometimes Jimin doesn't notice. So clearly JK was lying. Right? So why do we believe the J is for Jungkook, but we didn't believe JK's reason for why he's always filming Jimin?

Have i made my point yet???

"The J stands for Jungkook, JK said so."

Be quiet.

If you believe that then you might as well stop believing in Jikook rn because these mofos have never told us they were gay for eo. We concluded that after mountains of suspicious moments and unexplainable sexual tension. We concluded. They didn't tell us.

And if you wanna still believe in Jikook then get off your fucking high horse where you nitpick what to buy and judge those of us who wanna believe in the JM tattoo or Jikook numbers or Jikook dropping eo off at the airport. There are clearly levels of Jikookery but everyone needs to stay in their lane and stop judging. You just come off looking like a fucking hypocrite. We don't all have to think or see things the same way.

The JM stands for Jimin. Otherwise he would have left his tattoos like this.

Rant over. I'm done. But I needed to get that off my chest. Anyway, Jikook is real. Amen.

Support Jikook for clear skin

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tokyokookmin · 11 months

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WAR IS OVER ✨✨

It's officially over. All you delusional people can close your shops and leave that toxic ship fandom.

It's no coincidence. When we said Tae is straight y'all wouldn't believe us. And now when he's 'rumoured' to be dating Jennie from BP. ( I personally believe that they are already officially dating from over a year ago) . It's no coincidence dear.

Please bear with me in this post. I need to clarify things. Since there are people who are barking at the asks 😰 (don't y'all get tired 😰😰).. also it's been quite a while since I did a post like this. So why not! Lol..

Cr to creator

It all started with the IG following

To now them openly holding hands in Paris.

And for fucks sake if anyone comes to me saying it's a cosplayer. Please be reminded that their managers are right behind them. There's more evidence on them by the French paparazzis. Go and read up.

Let's not forget about the JEJU ISLAND trip pictures.

These are all the pictures that are rumoured to be Jennie and V. Ehm ehmmm.

They are cryptic but also not lol . I am very fast to catch up on hints. I also believe that my moots too are quick to figure out about the TAENIE hints, aren't I right?

Besides that. Ehem ehm. Coughs... Let's talk matching accessories.

Here we see Jennie wearing a specific necklace which I believe is by the brand Foundrae.

Latest seen wearing during concerts and in James Corden carpool kareoke.

Coughs a little louder..

Uh, when was this?

I thought you people are like number one at finding and noticing tkk hints or whatver y'all call em. Have y'all turned blind. Oh dear lord I pity y'all soooo much. 😭😭😭😭

This is no coincidence. Neither is this a planned thing to feed into taennie shippers delusions.

IG PICS.. WHAT ABOUT THAT NOW PEOPLE 😰

(refer to the video)

Anyways. I fully Stan the both of them. May God bless their relationship.

#im happy #jikook #jikookers #a very needed post

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stormblessed95 · 6 months

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https://www.tumblr.com/stormblessed95/733065475191439360/well-well-well-im-so-glad-jm-is-the-one-whos?source=share

Anon thought they're talking to dionysustkk and tkklives and that's why they're accusing you of hating on tae lol. Not even Georgia who people love to call biggest tae and tkk even she does not speak on tk's bond or call them fanservice like the way dionysustkk with her 80k followers and tkklives with her 400k+ subscribers love to portray. They think all jkks big accounts also talk like how tk big accounts talk like suzan we're not the same....

🤣🤣🤣🤣 lol thanks. But also let's not get into jkkrs acting like tkkrs again. Because I've said my piece, pissed most of you off, my mind still hasn't changed and I just don't feel like doing THAT again. LOL buy yeah, it's not the same, but lately alot of jkkrs could be doing a lot better. I've seen a lot of shit that used to never fly in jikook spaces. And now it's being praised and touted as "good for you for saying what you really think." So there are tons of jkkrs anon could've sent that message to and not been too far off base. Unfortunately for them, I am OT7, so I'm not the one. And before ANYONE gets huffy at me for this. If you (or any blog you love) is OT7 as well, then clearly I'm not talking about you (general you) so no need to take offense. And no need for anyone to go say things about being or not being ot7 to anyone else either. Imma just live and let live and hope you all do the same too. The anon feature is such a double edged sword with what it allows people to feel like they can freely say to someone else, regardless of how you feel about anyone. Lol

Remember, kindness costs you nothing and something we should all practice more of 💜

#jikookers #jikook antis #antis #akgaes #jkkrs vs tkkrs

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only-jm · 8 months

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Jikookers have lost their mind. Yeah jm doesn't care about his solo career but he is the only one to have credits and he is working hard for nothing

Sure.

Jikookers should leave jimin alone, is jimin that dgaf or it's you that dgaf about Jimin solo career ?

#park jimin #jikookers #free jimin #jimin

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jimin-jam · 7 months

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@mrs-monaghan hey there! Forgive me I have to answer you this way because Tumblr was not letting me reply to you in the comments.

Before answering your questions I would like to tell you that these are just my interpretations. Your views can be different and no one is invalidating them , now if you ask me about the Tokyo of course that happens 100% , do I see it as Jk's love for Jimin of course but do I label that love . Then my answer is No . Because as I said how I view their relationship and what is reality can be different and I just appreciate their bond without any labels .

The other things that you mentioned :- U wanna explain the sexual? What I explain and what you think might be totally different I am a 26 year old woman and trust me I have my fair share of attractions , but we can never predict what the other person's relationship is just by looking through a screen . Please tell me why Jimin had his foot on JK's crotch in BV1. Now about this thing I don't think it means anything, let me tell you why have you seen that one video where Jimin's or Jk's hand goes to Jin's crotch . Things of this nature are not equivalent to proofs , it can be views of people which again I am saying can be different from others. I also wanna understand why JK would look at Jimin's ass then adjust his dick multiple times if Jimin didn't turn him on? HAVE YOU SEEN HOW MANY TIMES BTS WATCH JIMIN WITH BEDROOM EYES. The point you have here is sheer projection and your interpretation, there can be truth but also there can't.

Have you watched the video where Jimin and Hobi were in a tub and how Hobi was watching Jimin , saying his name , caressing him .

See?? These are all our own interpretations , but reality can be different and that doesn't mean Jikook doesn't have a bond. Of course they have a bond , I would just not put a label to it . You can say they are closer , so people calling them platonic are also correct .

As I said in my original post we can enjoy their bond however we want but we shouldn't condemn others' opinions too .

Bangtan is a dear for all , and everyone should enjoy them however they want in a healthy way .

#jikook #ask #clarification #i love them too #jungkook #park jimin #jikookers #bts #bts fandom

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