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I love hensheng but telling people about its name must have been so awkward. Imagine if someone said "that's a cool sword. What is it called?" and JGY responded with "hating life". I mean, what would you even say to that?
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NHS/JGY are cultivation soulmates
“Oh,” Nie Huaisang said, blinking. For the first moment, he looked just as stunned as Meng Yao was – but, unfortunately, he recovered faster. “Oh, this is wonderful!”
This was terrible.
Meng Yao had plans, plans that did not involve turning out to be unusually compatible as dao companions with the notoriously useless and empty-headed second son of the Qinghe Nie, no matter how charming he might be. He was going to get back to Jinlin Tower – he was going to get the name and patrimony he was owed – he was going to be the one standing at the top of the stairs, not the bottom –
“I’ll have to tell da-ge at once!”
“No!” Meng Yao blurted out, too panicked to stop himself, and only afterwards belatedly realized that his reluctance could be interpreted as an insult. And that, of course, would be even worse – Meng Yao needed his position in Qinghe Nie to get into a position that would allow him back into the Jin sect, and he couldn’t afford to be throwing ‘wonderful’ opportunities like this back in the faces of the sect heir. After all, for all that Nie Mingjue seemed to like Meng Yao well enough, everyone knew how much he indulged his brother… “Ah, that is – Nie-gongzi –”
“I see,” Nie Huaisang said, looking at Meng Yao thoughtfully. “No, no, it’s quite all right. I’m not offended.”
He said that, but was he really?
“Really,” Nie Huaisang assured him. “I mean, I’m hardly a catch, am I? But that’s fine. We can fix this.”
Meng Yao frowned at him, not understanding.
“It’s just a matter of figuring out how to make this something we both benefit from, that’s all – a way we all win.” Nie Huaisang smiled. “If you stay here and become my dao companion, Da-ge benefits from my cultivation improving, I benefit from having a good friend, and you…well. We need to make sure you benefit, too, don’t we?”
He laughed even as Meng Yao stared, having never seen this particular side of Nie Huaisang before.
“What is it you want?” he asked. “Your rightful name as Jin Ziyao? Would that be enough? Or, ooh, do you want to inherit Jinlin Tower? Because that would be very convenient – da-ge could rule here, you and me could rule there…as long as we can get rid of the Wen sect, which we’re going to have to do anyway, that would position us quite well, now, wouldn’t it?”
“…you want to rule the cultivation world?” Meng Yao asked disbelievingly. That didn’t sound like the Nie Huaisang he knew.
“I want my sect to do well, like any good son,” Nie Huaisang corrected him piously, then grinned. “Besides, why would I want that when you and da-ge can rule the cultivation world for me instead?”
That…sounded a lot more like Nie Huaisang, yes.
“So what do you say? Are you in?”
Huh. Maybe they really were soulmates.
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essekknits · 2 months
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So like… are the Jin courtesy names just the generational prefix and then their birth name? Cause we have two examples of this: Meng Yao legitimised and becoming Jin Guangyao (and if Jin Guangshan was less of an asshole he would’ve been Jin Ziyao because he’s the same generation as Jin Zixuan and Jin Zixun, but that’s irrelevant), and Jin Rusong, who died too young to have received his courtesy name and whose mother calls him A-Song when she’s grieving his death.
So like, was Jin Zixuan born Jin Xuan? Was Jin Guangshan born Jin Shan?
But then we have Jin Ling, Jin Rulan, whose name was definitely not chosen like that. But then again, his courtesy name was chosen by Jiang Yanli, and that doesn’t sound like the usual MO in Koi Tower, letting the mother choose a courtesy name for her child, especially when said child is The Direct Heir.
Idk where I’m going with this just food for thought.
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firstjadeoflan · 22 days
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[A video is attached, in the view are some leaves and beyond those, Meng Yao and Xichen are standing and talking. Aisheng is sleeping on the former's head. The cameraperson seems to be hiding behind a plant and filming.
"-saw your reply to Zelda. We... didn't tell you the details about what happened with your father. How did you know?"
Meng Yao chuckles ruefully before replying, "You think I lied to you, don't you? That I am really the Lianfang-zun you know and remember. The one you stabbed," he adds, tone bland.
"I-" Xichen is cut off before he can say anything.
"In any case, I'm still not. I didn't lie to you. I just... Well, when I told you I got some of my memories back, those weren't actually the first ones. The ones I got back first were the memories of every single time my father disrespected me."
Something in Meng Yao's face hardens. "Jin Guangyao." He spits the name like it's a curse. "What a joke. Even when he supposedly accepted me into the clan, my very name is proof I was never going to get any respect from him."
On the table next to them, the egg shudders, and Meng Yao rushes over to it, distress clear on his face. Sparky also comes over to investigate, and then the video ends.]
well that's uh. Yikes. i never really questioned why he was Jin Guangyao rather than Jin Ziyao. but i guess to everyone else it was obvious
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allmydokkuns · 9 months
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if there's anyone Mandarin-speaking bilingual active on here and still has spoons for MDZS, I have a bit of a linguistic question but not enough knowledge to find an answer myself that I'd appreciate some help with!
I know the fanon fix it courtesy name for Meng Yao being accepted into Lanling Jin is "Ziyao," as in the correct generational character "Zi-" to match Zixuan and Zixun, plus his birth name. Is there any reason he can't still have his birth name and a courtesy name specific to his generation? Same thing goes for Mo Xuanyu.
I've been trying to think of good names for them in a scenario where this does in fact happen but all I've found so far is
偿 cháng for MY bc JGS doesn't deserve paternal rights, which only makes sense if you're privy to the poly fixit that lives rent free in my head...
Unfortunately I've come up with nothing for MXY for now, mainly because there's a particular kind of resonance between character birth names, courtesy names and personal titles that's hard to balance correctly for anyone who doesn't have a lot of working knowledge of the original language.
Anyway if there's anyone out there who has some ideas, reblog/comment/tag me on this post because my brain ain't spitting up much rn. Much thanks. I also remember reading something by someone else talking about how Lanling Jin goes by generations when it comes to deciding names for male descendants and that the radicals in Lan Xichen's and Wangj's birth names seem to be aligning by design, but I don't have enough spoons to find characters that contain the "xu" sound while also having some kind of relevant meaning for both MY and MXY. So instead I tried to think of word characters with good connotations that would be used to name sons as if the two of them had been accepted into the family with good intentions, dunno if I succeeded. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯qq
((now the rest of this is just gonna be some thoughtvomit because what even is coherent sentences anymore, abrupt topic change bc my joints are too messed up to make a separate post))
Perhaps I'm misunderstanding traditional family dynamics, but there is no real reason for Lanling Jin to not accept both Meng Yao and Mo Xuanyu into Lanling Jin except for 1) as established, Jin Guangshan is a philandering rapist piece of shit that has absolutely no intentions of taking responsibility for his offspring and sexual proclivities, or 2) they're attempting to save face for the clan and trying to do the thing where if they do not acknowledge the existence of these children then the problem does not exist?
I understand that some people spin it as being Madame Jin's intolerance for these illegitimate sons given her abuse of Meng Yao after Zixuan's and Yanli's deaths in canon timeline, but that doesn't make a lot of sense to me given how little presence she has in the plot and sect since she married into Lanling Jin. Not saying her taking out negative emotions on someone who for all intents and purposes she should be treating kind of like her son is right, because abuse is still abuse, but other than that it seems her only purpose in the plot is to give Zixuan a mother, Yu Ziyuan a sworn sister, Jiang Yanli a mother-in-law, and Jin Guangyao someone else to hate in Lanling. She's not distinct enough to have a canonical name other than her title as Jin Guangshan's wife, and besides which, being the wife she has no real power to make any decisions regarding the family's heirs. Moxiang Tongxiu straight up set up Lanling Jin as the wealthiest sect after Qishan Wen falls and they just so happen to be the only sect with only one (1) child born of the sect leader and his wife? Sus. Legally everything would have been all well and good if JGS was forced somehow into legitimizing both his illegitimate sons (the sons specifically, since having an illegitimate daughter does your family no real good in a Confucian society unless you're going to marry her out for political purposes) and they were raised as they should have been, especially since both MY and MXY seem like intelligent people. Zixuan gets some backers, Madame Jin gets some more kids and JGS gets some concubines, everyone wins! Even the sect's line of succession is more secure if he suddenly gets two sons. In short, there were so many ways JGS could have taken control of this situation as the father and sect leader and spun it to somehow come out smelling more like roses BUT HE ACTIVELY? CHOSE to give absolutely no shits and just let his wife, kids and sect suffer the consequences of this particular paternal dysfunction. And we all know what happened because he gave too many unnecessary fucks where they were not needed :^) or consensual :^)))) fuck that guy honestly tbh.
Now granted that was a whole sidebar, and maybe I'm thinking about this too hard but does nobody else think it's weird that of the Great Sects, only the male characters in Yunmeng Jiang and Gusu Lan have both canonical birth and courtesy names? It's almost like MXTX gave only the male characters most relevant to the story one of each honestly, since the only two exceptions that are coming to mind now are Su She (Minshan) and Xue Yang (Chengmei). Of course there is the argument that Wen Ning also has a courtesy name, but does it really count when no one uses it to refer to him? The naming stuff in this story are all over the place actually -- Jiang Cheng is the only sect leader of his generation that is referred to primarily by his birth name, but bc WWX is an unreliable narrator it's probably because he always called him that and somehow conveniently forgot he no longer had a right to call him that after he voluntarily left Yunmeng Jiang, therefore we as the audience also call him that... The fact that JC and WWX both seem to have courtesy names when they're kind of young for them, but that also goes for Lan Wangji. Neither the Nie brothers or Jin Zixuan have canonical alternate names, so either it wasn't very important to the plot (though it kind of is in Lanling after the Campaign when JGY gets legitimized but not really since it's the wrong generational character), but what's going on with Qinghe Nie's naming choices? This kind of inconsistency is fine if you handwave the whole thing about degrees of intimacy and formality and stuff but it gets funky if you stare at it long enough.
And that's not even scratching the surface of the weirdness surrounding the women in MDZS -- as few and shortlived as they are. Yu Ziyuan is the only wife of a sect leader in the named sects with a canonical name and title that isn't her married sect's clan + Madame, and the only one we see with any kind of sway both martially and in the everyday running of Yunmeng Jiang. Most importantly, she's the only woman in the series to have her own personal title! Also, again, sidebar, but Jiang Yanli choosing to go by Madame Jiang in fic instead of Young Madame Jin is a mood and a whole chef's kiss tbh. I think also in the kind of household I've been imagining her in after her marriage she could also be called "xiao-furen" (young Madame) where Madame Jin could also be properly called "lao-furen" (old Madame) to differentiate them according to subservient members of the household, in-house? That's a whole nother thing tho, in-group (household, sect, clan) versus outgroup (other sects or clans, and in some ways, your maiden clan if you married out).
Anyway. All of you writing Madame Yu as the root of all trouble in the Yunmeng Jiang family are being culturally insensitive and midkey misogynistic -- looping back to the discussion on JGS being a piece of shit father and sect leader, all his sect's family dysfunction is his inability to keep it in his pants and properly manage his paternal responsibility for the fruits thereof because in a Confucian setting, wives must obey husbands, sons must obey fathers, and both mother and son have therefore no power to override JGS's shitty parenting and leadership decisions re: powermongering and lack of legitimate heirs. Madame Yu's dissatisfaction with Jiang Fengmian's neglect of his only legitimate heir for some other person's son, even if that person's son is the current head disciple for the sect, is valid, because neglecting the next sect leader means neglecting the sect's future. Again, not saying her punishing WWX for stuff that he may or may not have done with Zidian was right. Wei Wuxian might be brilliant and talented and all that, but he doesn't have the right temperament to lead as a sect and clan must be led: with prudence, diplomacy and caution. Again, not WWX-bashing, but I think my favorite description of him goes something like "Wei Wuxian has never met a situation he didn't think couldn't be solved through escalation, and you all think Jiang Cheng is the emotional one?" Jiang Fengmian is an interesting contrast to both Jin Guangshan and Qingheng-jun in that he embodies the idea of physically there, but emotionally unavailable father, whereas JGS is maliciously neglectful and Qingheng-jun is practically non-existent. Granted we don't get a clear idea of how JFM is with JC outside of what that dynamic is like with WWX but I don't think very highly of a father who will scold the son that labored for who knows how many days to save his shixiong's life while praising said shixiong for something he didn't even accomplish alone in the same breath. It's the whole pattern of "ignore what Jiang Cheng accomplishes but lavish praise on Wei Wuxian who would have gotten into even bigger trouble if Jiang Cheng wasn't looking out for him too" that gets me with him. They're both children, you be the adult and sect leader they deserve and look past your biases against your wife (allegedly) and from your past (allegedly) to give them the tools they need to succeed together once you've kicked the bucket.
Is Madame Yu perfect? No, but I do think she loves her children and recognizes the responsibilities she has to Yunmeng Jiang, and she knows as a wife, mother, and fighter, that nothing she does or teaches or passes onto the children in her care means as much as the recognition and explicit support of her husband the sect leader. Jiang Fengmian's presence and legacy in the story is very faint. But Madame Yu? I see echoes of her in all three Yunmeng Jiang kids. But then I see her getting turned into the nagging wife stereotype and it makes me angry that the most developed female character in this story so often gets the short end of the stick in fanfic. Obviously I can't control what some of y'all write and there are some cultural/political nuances that exist in the story that a lot of the fan base may not be familiar with, so yeah I can understand why she gets watered down like that, like any other character in the story does and I'm not calling anybody out for it. But if some of y'all took one look at the so-called sect leaders in this story and immediately decided that it was their nagging, abusive hag of a wife that was the problem, I don't think we're reading/watching the same thing. Also, Wen Ruohan doesn't have a wife mentioned at all that I'm aware of and you could 100% argue that he's the root of most of the political BS that happens in the story, so do with that what you will.
Anyway I'm tired and my joints be protesting so I'm gonna call it a night. If you read this far, take a virtual cookie for making it all the way to here, thank you. If you're new to this hellsite and thought this was intriguing/interesting, reblog or comment and help a bitch out with some engagement, these posts take a lot out of me and if you'll remember, I did have some questions before the meta that I'd like to get out to the wider fan base. Likes don't do shit except make the OP feel like they're yelling into a vacuum. Y'all have a good one.
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Time again for "Things I'll We'll Never Write"! This time, it's a discord collab with @micchikureshima!
So, a SangYao story based extremely loosely on the show The Romance of Tiger and Rose, wherein Nie Huaisang's mother decides she doesn't want to be separated from her theatre (and secretly also bandit) troupe while she's pregnant.
Playing with the much larger age gap idea I previously had, Huaisang is born at the same time Papa Nie is dying. In this timeline, childbirth doesn't kill his mother, but when she takes him to the sect, they don't even get past the gate.
The guards won't even look at the baby, because as long as they can't see green eyes, they can claim plausible deniability.
Pissed off by the lack of welcome, Huaisang's mama returns to the troupe with him, and the other performers/rogues become his unofficial uncles and aunties and cousins.
This Huaisang still has most of the health problems that we usually write, but he's introduced to being a charmer and a schemer very early in life. Pretty, clever, and the best actor in the troupe, he's everybody's little darling, especially since the birds he learns to train make for an excellent distraction.
Meanwhile over in the Jin sect, Meng Yao was graciously taken in after his mother's passing, and he even has the correct generational name, but it's still clear that he's little more than a glorified servant. Zixuan (awkwardly) tries to be nice to him and little Ziyu (who's in a similarly dismal situation as Ziyao) adores him, but he has no other allies in the sect.
His luck takes a considerable turn for the worst when he's caught up in a bandit raid and taken hostage with Ziyu as the only witness to his kidnapping.
Initially, the bandits didn't exactly mean to steal a member of the gentry, and once they realize they've got a Jin son, they're only looking for ransom.
A ransom he knows in his heart that his father's never going to pay.
He tries to keep his hopes up that someone will come for him, like his brother, or NieLan, but it quickly becomes evident that he's completely on his own.
(Meanwhile, unbeknownst to him, His brother and friends don't know he's missing, because when they noticed his letters had stopped coming, they'd been given some plausible bullshit about being out on assignment. By the time anyone thinks to ask little socially-invisible and skittish Ziyu if he knows where Ziyao is, a little over a month has passed.)
After they realize their hostage is essentially worthless, some of the bandits want to kill him, since he knows what they look like.
But Huaisang, having figured out what's up, offers him a proposal instead. Since no one's coming to take Ziyao back, what's stopping him from just... joining up with them? Hadn't they been generous hosts?
Ziyao is ready to blow that off, but the more he thinks about it... then yeah, aside from the bindings, they had treated him very well. Like an honored guest, even, which was certainly more than he got at home.
Though they're similarly matched in hidden weapons and strategy, Ziyao can handle an open fight much better than Huaisang can, so he's assigned as bodyguard.
It doesn't take Huaisang long to take a particular shine to him, and he's a very cuddly person.
It doesn't take Ziyao long to be won over by Huaisang's affection and charm.
(Fortunately for him, Huaisang's mama likes him too, because if she'd decided he was an unworthy suitor, the results wouldn't have been pretty.)
About this time, his brother and friends are now searching for him, and they're not exactly pleased to find he's willingly joined the elusive bandits plaguing the jianghu.
Especially not Nie Mingjue.
But he's quickly set straight when he runs into Huaisang and Mama and recognizes her, and once he gets the full story of how his (father's) sect rejected them, and how Ziyao's father left him out to dry, he becomes a lot less antagonistic.
(Though he's still extremely miffed about them being bandits.)
Zixuan and Xichen try to convince Ziyao to come home, but they too give up on learning that Jin Guangshan was perfectly willing to let him die.
(On noticing Ziyu with them, Ziyao secretly asks Huaisang if he'd be willing to perform another kidnapping as a courting gift. Huaisang is delighted by the request.)
At one point, as a result of getting poisoned by cultivators looking to bring down the troupe, Huaisang loses his memory and we get the iconic scene of
(And some other shenanigans happen along the way and afterwards but the important part is they do get to live happily married.)
"Who is this? He looks quite handsome... hey, how about you come with me and be my husband?"
"He is your husband."
"Since when have I been married to such a handsome man?! When and how did we meet?!"
"You kidnapped him."
"I kidnapped him... Ha, I'll do it again."
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thebansacredbanned · 3 months
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Find the words
I was tagged by @yletylyf with the words "slow, time, secret" to find in my WIPs. Hi!!
Having spent the last few months complaining about how many wips I have, I managed to forget about like half of them in the week I took afk so this was fun exploring what I actually had written haha
Slow
But, slowly, they turned the tide, persuaded minor sects like the Yao and Ouyang away from the side of the Jin, until Jin Guangshan was left to stand and fall on his own.
Time
The next time the Emperor looks at Grand Commander Meng for his opinion, he bows deeply. “If it would not be too bold, this one would ask that you consider him as a potential match for the Princess.”
Secret
Xichen has never wanted to be brothers with a-Yao. But what he does want has never been possible, and is even less so now that a-Yao is married. Jin Ziyao’s scorn for those who commit adultery is hardly something he keeps secret.
I'm gonna suggest 'heart', 'small', and 'pain', and tag @nemainofthewater, @wishthefish, @woobifiedvillain, and @dcderringer (with the usual caveat of not feeling obliged to) and also anyone who thinks they have cool passages with the words in!
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thebiscuiteternal · 9 months
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👀 @ #5
ferals and ethereals was one of the (many) sangyao threads that got kicked in the shins by annoying twitter changes happening right smack in the middle of updates.
long story short (yes this is the short version), most of the sects are fae-like ethereals with unicorn-shifters being the only animal-ish type among them, while the nie is the only sect of ferals (bear-shifters, tiger-shifters, assorted other critters) which the others see as brutish upstarts.
for decades, there's been a sort of stalemate because the nie sect has taken in enough other ferals that even though the other sects have stronger magic, the nies are just too numerous to kill off.
enter huaisang, the only known product of a mixed feral/ethereal pairing, who was raised in protective isolation by his mother and thus thinks something's terribly wrong with him when he sprouts fangs and a desire to hunt for meat. he runs away at thirteen, trying to find a cure (that he doesn't actually need because there's nothing wrong).
what he finds instead is ethereal jin ziyao, raised in a precarious harem situation where his father supposedly can control his mother's health and has threatened to make her waste away if he doesn't find a way to bring the nies under heel, even though he's all of fifteen.
with extreme misgivings, jin ziyao drags nie huaisang back to his father, only to be disturbed and disgusted at seeing huaisang treated like some kind of zoo animal. worse, his mother finds out about everything and is appalled by what happened.
but meng shi turns out to not be angry at him; she's pissed that his father held her health over his head like a coward to force him into doing something so cruel, and on top of that, she doesn't think jin guangshan actually has the power to do what he claimed, that it was all a bluff to scare her son.
so now mother and son are working together to save themselves and huaisang before all-out war with the nie sect can be provoked.
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aitchnkay · 5 months
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Jiang Gunian Made A Change Part 30
It was a blood bath, according to all reports. Wen Xu and his fifty men were as capable as Wei WuXian and his men. The attack began before dawn, when sentries should have been at their sleepiest and least aware. It continued until well after noon.
As promised, Meng Yao was allowed to fight Wen Xu. The older man was much stronger, both physically and with his cultivation. Strength was no match for one raised to fight in the streets of Yunping. They were both a bloody mess when Meng Yao slipped in under Wen Xu's guard and ripped his stomach open. Wen Xu staggered back in shock, and Meng Yao went for the kill.
He would spend the next few days in the infirmary in the Unclean Realm.
Nie MingJue tracked Jiang YanLi down when he found out she had ordered Wei WuXian to allow Meng Yao the kill. "What the Hell were you thinking?"
"I was thinking of rewarding my advisor," she retorted.
"Reward? Some reward! I'll remind you, Meng Yao will once again be my advisor once this war is over. You almost got him killed."
"It was my decision. If he had died, it would have been my responsibility. Meng Yao knew the risks, and accepted the role. Oh, and he won't be returning to QingheNie after the war. I have bigger plans for him."
Nie MingJue frowned. "What else are you going to give him? Yourself?"
"What? No. What? I've given him Crescent Island In Yunmeng as the base for his clan."
"Are you going to marry him?"
Jiang YanLi paused to think. "Marriage? I... don't think that's appropriate." She paused again and shook her head. "No. Marriage to me is not what he needs. The alliance between YunmengJiang and YunmengMeng would be good for him. But no. Not to me."
"Why not?"
"I am a General and he my advisor. His birth is already held against him. Marrying his superior?" She shook her head. "He needs a wife from a lower clan. Perhaps a concubine's daughter. One who understands his position and will be an asset to the clan."
Nie MingJue's face softened. "You think someone will offer their daughter to a bastard?"
"Of course," Jiang YanLi looked him straight in the eye. "Jin GuangShan is going to acknowledge his son in front of all the sects and clans, and beg him to be known as Jin ZiYao." She smiled a brittle smile. "Meng Yao will thank his father for the honor and say 'no'. He is a hero and will stay a hero with the name his mother gave him."
"You sound sure of that."
"I have worked and planned very hard to make sure this will come to pass, Nie ZongZhu. I will allow nothing to interfere with my plans."
"What about your own marriage? Will you go back to Jin ZiXuan?"
Jiang YanLi gave herself a good long time to think. "He hasn't asked. Or hinted. But... I think.... Not. Not without a compelling reason. My affection for him is... not gone, but... dulled. When the war is over, I will return to Lotus Pier."
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jaimebluesq · 6 months
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Today in "Ideas I would love to write one day but don't know if I will ever get around to it":
An alternate universe where Jin Guangshan is not the worst person in the world - he establishes early with Madame Jin that he wishes to bring in concubines and they come to sensible ground rules, the women he brings in are loved and well taken care of, and all of the children they have are treated well and loved even if only those from Madame Jin will be heir, etc etc. And this Jin Guangshan dies young, murdered in his sleep by a woman with some sort of grudge against him, and his death devastates his children and wives.
Jin ZiYao in particular takes his father's death hard, and he goes out seeking people who work in dark arts to find a solution because he misses his father so much and cannot accept that he is gone. He finds a woman who gives him an array that will send him to the past where he will have a day to change what he can, and then he will be returned.
So A-Yao is sent back to a day before any of his siblings have been born, before his father had even married Madame Jin. He meets with his father and gives him grave warnings about the woman who will kill him one day, says as much as he can with as much vehemence as possible in the only day he has available to him. And when the day is done, A-Yao is brought back to the day he left.
But the world is intrinsically changed. Because of A-Yao's interference, the Jin Guangshan he comes back to is the one from canon. JGS became the way he is because of interference from a beloved son who did not want to lose his father, instead losing him in an entirely different way. A-Yao's warnings about the woman who killed his father sparked in Jin Guangshan the beginnings of a life-long attitude of objectifying and disrespecting women, seeing them as threats and things to use rather than people, and this attitude was transferred onto the children they begat him.
And no matter how much A-Yao tries to create another array, he fails. He can't change the past, can't change what has become of his father - and he knows that the father that raised him would have detested the man he became in this timeline. And so A-Yao does like he did in canon, engineering his father's death, this time seeing it as a mercy killing that the father who loved him would have wanted.
So yeah, good times!
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asparklethatisblue · 2 years
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Jin ZiYao, second young master of the Jin clan, son of first concubine Meng Shi and one of the famed Twin Splendours of Jinlin Tai.
AU in which JGY actually gets accepted into the life he dreamed of from the start
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robininthelabyrinth · 2 years
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AU in which Jin Guangshan actually takes Meng Shi in as a concubine and Jin Guangyao grows up as Jin Ziyao, Second Young Master of Koi Tower. How does this affect things?
Presumably, Jin Guangshan - forced to accept the son who , with his mother alongside him, so boldly came to lay claim to his paternity - thought that he'd found a way to sideline the now-dubbed Jin Ziyao when he'd given him the job of librarian.
It was obviously a scam, since for all its riches the Lanling Jin had never really cared much for books or learning or knowledge. Their "library" was little more than a warehouse where they pitched all the books they'd received as gifts or bought along with other things. What harm could someone, anyone, do from there?
The answer seemed obvious.
The answer turned out not to be the obvious.
Jin Guangshan might not care for the secrets locked away in books, but his peers very much did. While the official sect heir tried (and failed) to make friends with other heirs his age, Jin Ziyao was already striking up correspondences with the likes of Wen Ruohan and Lan Qiren, coaxing them in with tantalizing suggestions of rare texts they'd never seen before. He sold some books for seed money (he'd never been told he couldn't) and used it to hire a ship, sending it to foreign ports to get - more books. 
Unusual music cultivation that sent the sects so inclined (not least of all the Lan) into lengthy debates; battle tactics both familiar and foreign, with some so ridiculous thar it got Wen Ruohan and Nie Mingjue, sworn enemies, to laugh together over them. Books of painted beauties for aesthetics like Nie Huaisang, who promptly connected Jin Ziyao with the wide world of local publishing...
In the blink of an eye, Jin Guangshan found that his forgotten second son was as in demand as his heir. At that point, he realized it was time to start worrying, thinking that it was time to start taking measures to confine Jin Ziyao before he was able to grow his power any further. Distracted by such thoughts, he waved his hand to encourage the new musican he'd had recommended to him from some source or another to start playing, and never realized that his fears and scheming thoughts were already too late...
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aline-the-cat · 11 months
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WangXian Twilight AU
Cangse Sanren and Wei Changze send their son Wei Wuxian to Caiyi so he can study in the prestigious Cloud Recess University, he reunites there with his cousins Jiang Cheng and Jiang Yanli and makes friends with Nie Huaisang, the first day is normal and all, with the only weird thing being Huaisang warning him about a student, Lan something. Wei Wuxian doesn't pay attention. Big Mistake
He enters one of his classes and there, sittting next to the only sit available, is the most handsome man ever. Wei Wuxian would be swooing except he also has the meanest glare of all. Literally the guy is killing with his golden eyes (golden eyes?). Wei Wuxian being the sun he is, tries to have a conversation with the stranger to no avail, as soon as the bell rings, the guy practically runs out of the classroom, not without sending his way another killing glare
Later, Wei Wuxian will hear him trying to change his schedule (really, whats up with this guy?!)
During lunch the next day he finally learns who the fuddy duddy is thanks to Nie Huaisang: "I told you to not get on his bad side!!! Didnt I told you???"
Wwx "I don't know, maybe?? Who is he?"
Enter the five most fashionable people Wei Wuxian has ever seen (and he has live with aunt Yu and Jiang Yanli)
Wwx "okay, who are they???"
Cue Jiang Cheng groaning next to him
NHS "The Lans and the Jins, their families supposedly have been friends for centuries, and the Lans adopted the Jins after their father died, or so I heard, they are mostly together and they keep them to themselves, they are extremely hot and the only ones worth of their time are Da-ge and Yanli-jie apparently
"And do they have names or I just go 'hot 1, hot 2, sexy 1, sexy 2 and gorgeous?" Wwx doesnt realize the young adults are smirking, and one is frowning
Jiang Cheng sighs and unwillingly enters the conversation
"The one that looks like a peacock is Jin Zixuan, Jie likes him for some reason and has been the only person he has talk to that we know, the one next to him with the ridiculous but cute beanie is Jin Ziyao..."
"Da-ge kinda likes him and has manage to talk to him on several ocasions or so I've heard" Nie Huaisang interrupts
"Yes, they are brothers, the one sitting next to them is Luo Quingyan, I think she is their cousin" Wei Wuxian nods appreciatively at Jiang Cheng's words, she is hot "The tall one is Lan Xichen, he is...."
"Hot, handsome, nice, gentleman, friendly and everything good in this word??" Huaisang probes, and to Wei Wuxian surprise and amusement, A-Cheng blushes
"Shut up Huaisang! I never said that!!" He tries so hard not to scream that is hilarious "stop saying nonesense or I'll break your fucking legs!" The younger Nie just dies of laughter next to him, also trying not to be too loud, Wei Ying notices with curiosity "I was gonna say that Lan Xichen is the head of the student council"
"And gorgeous?" Wei Ying asks, prompting A-Cheng's eyebrow to quirk
"He is Lan Wangji, Lan Xichen's younger sibling and the head of discipline around campus, his punishments are lengendary so you really dont want to get on his bad graces"
Wei Wuxian openly laughs delighted, a beautiful sound that makes the younger Lan freeze for a moment
"I think thats a little bit too late A-Cheng, Im pretty sure he hates me already... but thats okay, I'll be his friend in no time!"
Jiang Cheng groans as Nie Huaisang looks at him in awed
For Wei Wuxian, the year just got much more interesting
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mostlikelytofangirl · 5 months
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Regarding your comment over at ao3, YES!!! WRH doesn't know MY is JGY now! Imagine when he realizes?!?!? "Jin Guang... Jin guangwho? Jin Guangyao? Meng Yao!" The amount of feelings that will add to his internal whirlwind! So JGY did get legitimised! He's not on Jinlintai just as a servant or a guest! And he threw all that to the wolves for him? Hello??? WRH doesn't know what to feel :') JGY who put him there is now watching over him (as little as he likes the notion) good grief poor old man
Ahaha what a NICE realization to have :'D
It was one thing to believe that MY was a prisoner too that managed to escape, but now the treason makes all the more sense if the boy is now a legal Jin. He traded WRH's head for that name!
On the other hand tho
He would know that the Jin use generational names. Yes, MY got acknowledged but that's not the right character for his generation, it should be Jin Ziyao... which means that the boy handed Qinshan to his father and that still wasn't enough for Jin Guangshan!
It would be slightly vindicating, methinks. Sorta like "see? He was never going to appreciate you like I did, is it worth it now?!"
Regardless tho, MY was still a part of the sect that was rightfully his, he was a lawful son of the Jin and that was everything he wanted. And he renounced it to help WRH.
The fuckery just keeps on pilling up!
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lansplaining · 1 year
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uhhh since it sounds like we’re doing fixits? here’s a “fixit” (more of a “changeit” than a fixit lol) that i’ve been thinking about for a while:
the jins would really rather not publicize jgs’s infidelity, so instead of making a show of rejecting meng yao, they decide it isn’t worth making a fuss and drawing unwanted attention, so they quietly give him the jin name and a “zi” courtesy name, an entry level accounting job, and fantasy ancient chinese NDA, and put him dead last in the line to inherit.
(i’ve always kind of assumed that the jins were a pretty big family with lots of people named “jin,” generational characters with pretty good populations, and a pretty long line of succession. i figure jgy only became sect leader due to a few factors, including proximity, status as a war hero, etc, and jgy’s overall savviness)
so instead of jin guangyao, the sect leader’s infamous bastard son, former laughingstock for daring to approach his father, turned war hero…we have jin ziyao, nobody accountant. just one more random jin everyone assumes is from some obscure branch family they just don’t know about (in accordance with the fantasy NDA)
(it’s not as hard to lose track as one might think—my nana had six kids, and i can barely remember all of my blood cousins, let alone all of the “step cousins” from her second husband, who ALSO had six kids)
jgy technically gets everything he asked for—he’s a jin, nobody disrespects his mother (because nobody knows who she is), and if jgs wants jgy to stay quiet and stay out of his attention, then technically jgy would be a filial son by honoring that request. i think i described it to someone else as “he gets everything he wanted at the expense of everything he hoped for”
i don’t think he would be happy with this outcome—i think he would be incredibly disappointed—but i think he’s also much more of a cynic than his mother and would be able to recognize that this is probably one of the best outcomes he could rationally hope for—certainly better than, say, being flatly rejected and kicked down the stairs.
i think the setup is all fairly plausible, but what do you think? how do you think something like might play out?
this got really long sorry lol
man this really gets at the heart of one of my unanswered questions about JGY, which is the extent to which ambition is really a fundamental part of his character, or if it mostly stemmed from his proximity to power
that is to say: is being acknowledged as a Jin and a cultivator, having the power to live up to his deals of gentility and generosity in his own small way, is having a position that is probably in many ways more safe and secure than it would be to be JGS's acknowledged son even if it's based on a lie but that lie spares him bullying and abuse-- is that enough?
or will he always carry that seed of hope that if he just does enough, if he's impressive enough and diligent enough and competent enough, he will impress his father and have more? the power to do more, the power to be more, the power not just to live up to his mother's hopes for him but to wildly exceed them?
in other words-- even if he knows that he can't get any closer to his father than he is, does Jin Ziyao still dream of building a thousand watchtowers?
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fictionkinfessions · 1 year
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helloooo friends it's me wei wuxian from mo dao zu shi. my friends were doing a thing on twitter like "tell me which character i am from ur piece of media" and it was so fun to assign people based off who they remind me of from my canon!
things that are not so fun: when people are rude about jiang cheng. that man is a brother to me (i know to others he's more of a martial sibling, but to me we were closer than that, more like adopted brothers even though the circumstances were such that an adoption could never have actually happened... "our" parents sucked even if i get why they were the way they were now). we were in a really horrible situation and coped with it in different ways, and i love him always. me and him reunited and made up post-canon! at least partially because jin ling kept mentioning that there was a woman trying to court him who had Ill Intentions and i was like anyone who doesn't respect my brother's asexuality will Die By My Flute.
anyways. also another thing that bothers me: when people say that i "always knew" meng yao (i call him that because i dont remember him liking being called jin guangyao. that shit was a slight against him... i wonder if he would have preferred jin ziyao?) was a bad person. like no actually i thought he was alright! well, up until the whole thing where the jins were trying to get me killed and even then i didn't hate him specifically! i didn't even know he was involved in that.
and at the end of it i felt pretty bad for him honestly. in another world i might have ended up being like him, determined to chase after madam yu and the possibility of her adopting and legitimizing me! the only public or available reasons anyone had to be wary of him while i was alive the first time was just, the fact that he was a bastard and the son of a sex worker. (and maybe the fact that he was a jin and actively wanted to become a jin. ugh. hate the jins (not you jin ling my faaavorite and only nibling) but hey i liked mianmian and she was part of that sect too though!)
i do remember my lan zhan (<3) not liking him. but i think that was more because of the fact that lan xichen was like, in love with him, and there was a Whole Thing going on there. don't ask me about it honestly i think it had to do with the fact that meng yao wasn't / couldn't court him due to the combination of homophobia existing and the whole him-really-wanting-his-dad-to-accept-him. but i don't really know cause in my first life i had bigger problems than lan xichen's love life and in my second... well. i still feel bad about how that went down. we did not talk about it even after lan xichen DID leave seclusion.
anyways! jiang cheng is my brother and i love him !
-wei wuxian, #🦊🥀⚔️
⛏️
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