JM JK timeline.- my observations how they grew over the years
2017 - Part 4
Disclaimer: these are my own opinions and conclusions. Feel free to disagree, but hate or aggression will be unacceptable.
16-17 November 2017 BTS interviews in the US. JM sneezes and JK thinks it’s so adorable.
18 November 2017?
Can’t seem to find the original interview, but I think it was done same day as the BTS Tease 2017 American Music Awards Performance, E! Red Carpet & Award Shows interview.
This is where we find out that JK loves to take photos of sky and JM (people)…
JK doesn’t point a finger at JM, just signs with his hand in JM’s direction. But RM automatically looking at JM as JK signs in that direction makes things pretty clear as to JK’s meaning, as if we didn’t know...
19 November 2017 – KRBE AMA’s backstage interview – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fwSuGBU5R4 . Band members asked who’s the best with the ladies. JK turns towards RM and asks: “V”?, but RM and V point to JK, who is all flustered. JM smiling uncomfortably. It was actually a heart breaking moment for me.
19 November 2017 AMA’s interview – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfHZYgNgHVU . JK playing with JM’s jacket. JM hints for him to stop, but JK keeps doing it, so JM finally kind of snaps at him to stop but JK needs to continue to touch JM. JM softens up after and pulls JK forward to talk.
19 Nov 2017 Zach Sang backstage AMA interview - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STLDAdhuLzc .
Not so big, but still an honourable mention from me. At the start of the interview JM, who is standing directly behind Hobi (V is standing behind JK), had one hand on Hobi’s shoulder and another hand on JK’s shoulder. Having a hand on JK is not because he is closest to him. Not the obvious solution to place his hands in that situation. That would be two hands on Hobi, just like later on in the interview V places both his hands on JK’s shoulders. It was just something I noticed and found interesting.
JM and JK are clearly in love and attracted to each other. JM is also JK’s anchor, his calming waters. But they are also super professional, always were.
So why do we get so much content during these interviews? I mean, isn’t it something they are trying to hide, and if they were professional why can’t they keep their hands to themselves?
We need to remember that the boys have to sit or stand for hours upon hours on end doing interview after interview, like an interview conveyor belt. They are tired, worn out, so much so, that at some point their guard is let down. They will turn to each other for comfort or support or will say or do something impulsive, that they otherwise wouldn’t have done. That’s when we usually get to enjoy our famous interview Jikook moments.
20 November 2017 BTS post AMA’s night party Vlive - https://www.vlive.tv/video/49001 .
Remember tipsy JK? Tipsy JK is the best, right?
The way he behaves in this Vlive you would think he is outright drunk.
Now, I know that towards the end of the live, when the members want to make a toast, JK does mention he cannot drink in the US, but if he really wasn’t drinking, why do the other members call him ‘loose’? Maybe he had a sip or two or three or more off camera???
Drunk on alcohol or drunk on adrenaline, whatever it is, he lacks inhibition.
He is constantly looking to JM. The members start talking about how they felt during the performance. And here ‘happy’ JK flies into action. He says “I wasn’t that nervous. Do you know why?”
JM asks why, and J-hope grabs JM’s shoulder, telling him “don’t ask him”, knowing full well this isn’t something we should be hearing from a JK lacking inhibitions.
JM turns to the camera smiling and tells us: “let’s say that he wasn’t nervous at all”, to be followed by Suga telling JK: “you’re too loosened”, and RM saying: “he lacks sincerity”.
Drunk or not, alcohol or adrenaline, it doesn’t really matter. Either way, the members are trying to silence him, afraid of what he might say.
At this point they try to move on, only that JK hasn’t finished, and he goes right back to not being nervous. He says: “the reason I wasn’t nervous was…”, looking JM in the eye and puts his hand on JM’s shoulder. He leans back and JM claps his hands and says: “I see”, and starts laughing.
At this point you see JK realises he literally put his foot in it, lowers his head and JM pulls his T-shirt laughing.
So, then JK tries to fix it, saying “because of Army”. Yeah JK, we believe you. You seem to be really sincere, I mean, your band mates are really buying it too…
Tipsy-like JK, I love him.
21-24 November 2017. I said I wouldn’t do it. I promised I wouldn’t do it. I just couldn’t help myself. Please accept my apologies in advance, but I just couldn’t leave these photos JM uploaded to Twitter out. I mean, how could I leave out JM’s uploading JK photographs of ‘Sky’ & ‘People’??? That just wouldn’t be right.
Run BTS episode 28, released end November 2017 – JM dressing up JK with his style of clothing. The members reactions when JM threw the rose and it fell behind JK. JK and JM were pretty pleased. JK loved modelling JM’s clothes, also loved making JM laugh by imitating him as a model.
2 December 2017 MMA’s. Pulling JK to the front to talk when receiving the award, JM moving from Hobi’s side to stand by JK. The closeness, the looks. Walking off stage side by side.
Same day as the very famous clip, when JK sitting behind JM, and JM turns back to him, while JK is singing “I remember our first kiss, I close my eyes whenever I can and go to the farthest place”. Both being watched by Jin, who smirks, but when remembers there’s a camera, becomes serious again.
9 December 2017. JK & JM Vlive. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA9VjPylgDA .
Someone please get the fire extinguisher, because JK’s heart is burning. The level of flirtatious behaviour, I might need the extinguisher for myself.
When showing the group photo fan JK says how Hobi looks attractive, only for JM to ask “what about me?” Of course JK agrees he is handsome too.
This is how those two behave when they are not alone in the room!! I mean… You just can’t put those two together for a live. If this is what happens when they are not alone, what would happen if they were alone in the room (NJ live 2019 Ahem)…
9-10 December 2017 Wings tour last concerts in Seoul. JK being bold.
What I left out:
This year is filled with so much content, I just couldn’t put it all in, so there a so many cute moments I have left out. Also, Twitter (ahem, some at least), some stage flirtation, including JK’s full attention on JM when speaking, not every hug or touch.
I now know that matching outfits has much significance in SK culture. I didn’t know that when I first had that gut feeling JM and JK were involved. As far as I am concerned, there is enough content even without addressing this subject, so this too I left out.
After JM and JK get back from their trip they seem even closer, if that was possible. They also seem a bit bolder. I mean GCFT people, if that is not boldness I don’t know what is.
I thought 2016 was a plentiful year? Well 2017 surpassed it by miles and miles. The amount of content with the two is enormous. So much so, that there is so much I did not add to my timeline, just because I felt it was too much already.
The abundance in content, to me, is a sign not only of the two getting closer, but also getting louder. Allowing themselves to be seen. This relative new freedom would probably be a result of not only the growth of the strength of their bond, but also, in my opinion, them ‘coming out’ to the group, and most probably, at least by the end of the year, to the most important members of their production team.
This allows them freedom to act more as themselves with the members and production team, while also relying on the latter to ‘hide’ what needs to be hidden, if necessary, and to protect them, sometimes even from themselves. Even if they didn’t all out ‘come out’ to the staff around them, well, by then I think they either more or less know what’s going on, or were turning a blind eye to it. Whichever is true, at the end of the day it didn’t matter. They are all bound by non-disclosure agreements, and would not dare to leak anything they might have seen.
I also believe that the boys, mostly, have a very good relationship with the staff, and as such, none of them would do anything that could potentially really hurt not only JK and JM, but the group as a whole.
JK and JM, by the end of 2017 are finding their groove. There is less pushing and pulling noticeable. They are madly in love and are finding their pace.
To be continued…
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