#joey and tim

[mothertkachuker]

silly boys and silly words, lucky number three edition

#silly boys and silly words #hockey meme #hockey textpost #nhl memes #matthew tkachuk #tim stutzle #brady tkachuk #kris letang #seattle kraken #joey daccord #kirill kaprizov #auston matthews #718 #connor mcdavid #leon draisaitl

[celaenaeiln]

Ive been reading the older comics (1950s) of World’s Finest, and I just realised Batman is so smiley and full of expression while Superman kind of isn’t. Is there a reason for this change or is it just the authors and time changing haha

YES!! Yes to both but I have so much to say about this because it's not just about time changing, but the way real life changed is intertwined in the comics in their character growths.

Batman

Let's start with the grim avenger. Here's the thing - the grim avenger wasn't grim because he had Dick Grayson by his side and I'll explain how the medal ages and Bruce's happiness is connected to how close Dick was to Bruce and the relationship Dick had with Bruce influences his view later on of his father in comparison to how the rest of the batkids see Bruce.

As you said, Bruce was the happiest he's ever been in the 1950s. He and Dick had the time of their lives, sunshine, glory, joy, adventure - you name it and they had it all. This was the Golden Age.

Batman (1940) Issue #46

Detective Comics (1937) Issue #95

But as time passed, Dick eventually began to grow up. When the Teen Titans first formed, the Golden Age of comics transitioned into the Silver Age as Dick began to work more independently from Bruce but was still close. The Bronze Age was when Dick was on the cusp of leaving and then just left (1970s-1985s).

The reason I'm bringing this up as to why Bruce changed, it has to do with Dick. When Dick went off to college, Bruce actually shut the cave down and moved out of the manor with Alfred because he didn't know how to be Batman without Dick. He said he was going on a little soul-searching to find himself again.

Batman (1940) Issue #217

But real-life readers got really mad this and said, "Bruce was always a grim detective. When he was with Robin, he was too happy! We want to see him angry like he used to be!" So the writers realized that Bruce turning away from Batman was huge mistake so this set forth the grim avenger batman thing again.

Dick also feels the same way, that him moving to college was what changed the dynamics between them.

Secret Origins (1986) Issue #13

Granted Bruce is mad that Dick decided to drop out of college in favor of being Robin but it's also about the fact that Bruce wouldn't have responded like this before. Something's changed. And overall it can be summed up to Bruce being angry, frustrated, upset, and lonely with Dick gone, those emotions compounding into a new or renegaded form of Batman, Dick coming back and realizing - he doesn't want to be controlled and he doesn't want to be this new darker version of Bruce. The change in idealisms were Dick is more light-hearted and Bruce is slowly becoming Darker weighs on Bruce too.

Bruce's pov of the situation -

Batman (1940) Issue #138

Dick's pov -

Secret Origins (1986) Issue #13

Dick didn't want to be like Batman, Bruce was already upset but Dick's gradual distance from who he was turning into combined with his frustration of himself - it led Bruce to become the person he is now, someone he doesn't like and it's this circling self-hatred of what he become that keeps him perpetually angry and moody.

It's so important to talk about this because it's not just a time change, it's actively part of the comics. It's part of who Bruce is and why he is this way now. To explain more on what I said and elaborate further on what you said about Bruce becoming less smile-y :

Batman (1940) Issue #359

He lashes out at Dick, feels bad about it, and grumps over how he can't trust anyone in the world and this just keeps continuing over the years.

Tim and Dick actually talk about this too, the idea that Bruce was different with Dick then he was later on. Going on a slight tangent here but during one time in Gotham Knights Dick gets "dismayed" at Tim because Tim questions Bruce's morality and Dick's like "How dare you! He's a good person, he's amazing." And Tim's just like "No, he's not??"

Batman: Gotham Knights Issue #26

Dick grouches about this with Barbara and she tells him -

Batman: Gotham Knights Issue #26

slayy

Again what she says "First of all, the Bruce who raised you and the Bruce who works with Tim are not exactly the same man. Tim has had a very different experience, and is likely to have very different thoughts and beliefs."

Tim says it too in Batman: A Lonely Place of Dying when he's comparing Dick and Jason's Robin eras -

Batman: A Lonely Place of Dying

And Dick talks about it again with Checkmate in the Checkmate (2006) comic about how he used to make Bruce laugh. He's quiet for a moment and then they talk somberly about how Bruce never laughs anymore.

So to sum it all up, the reason Bruce changed was because Dick drifted apart from him as he aged and he grew more independent, and Bruce as a result felt stifled and upset by this change and grew more independent too but in a darker way, and all these changes between Dick and him as well as within himself led to him being gloomier and grumpier. The authors also played a big part in acknowledging Bruce changing as a result of Dick leaving but also due to the readers' responses of having Batman return to his stern countenance of a time before Dick came along. Hence the decreasing medal ages that went from a happy Bruce Wayne to the sad and waspish one we know now. But maybe it also has to do with the fact that Bruce and Dick stopped getting to ride the backs of dinosaurs, fight pirates, and play prince and the pauper with real princes lol.

Superman

Clark is a very different story and I think it's because of how it's the reverse of Batman. In the beginning Clark was very - stern? He definitely wasn't smiling or laughing or fuzzy feelings but it wasn't the author's intention for him to be any of that. In the beginning, Superman was portrayed be a powerful and virtuous hero, fighting for truth, justice, and the American way. This portrayal was aimed at providing readers an uplifting and optimistic character during hard times because he was created in 1939 and it was the end of the Great Depression (1929 - 1939) and the beginning of WWII (1939 - 1945). The fact that it was the end of the great depression only made it worse because the depression only ended due to millions of men and women going off to fight war. So it was just VERY upsetting times and therefore Superman was a symbol of hope - for the war.

Superman (1939) Issue #12

Superman (1939) Issue #8

Superman (1939) Issue #34

But as soon as the war ended, you see a shift in the way Superman is written.

Superman (1939) Issue #36

Superman (1939) Issue #76

I guess it all comes down to this - Clark's writers were focused on his deeds. It was about solving problems and that's it. Whereas with Bruce, the focus was on solving problems but it was done through his relationships. He relied heavily on Dick as a partner and best friend and they were able to share their difficulties and have fun whereas Clark had no one, except Lois but in civilian identity. Because of this, it wasn't until later comics when writers started introducing new elements, exploring different aspects of his character, and adapting to the changing cultural and social contexts that these interpretations have included moments of joy, personal growth, and triumphs, as well as challenges, conflicts, and moments of introspection.

Superman: Heroes

It was both the ending of the war and gradually interacting with other characters that made his personality lighter and funner to read. You can even think about it this way - as Clark started to rely more on people, he started to open up and become more light hearted as the years passed but as Bruce began to distrust people and rely less on others, his personality grew darker and angrier. Bruce and Clark went through the same personality changes but Bruce started pretty early on with Dick and lost him leading to a downward turn in personality whereas Clark started with no one then gained Lois and Jimmy Olsen causing an upward trend. Two sides of a coin.

Moral of the story folks: learn to rely on others or end up like Batman.

#bruce wayne #batman #dick grayson #nightwing #robin dick grayson #tim drake #robin tim drake #barbara gordon #oracle #joey wilson #clark kent #superman #cl anon asks #cl asks #thanks for the ask!

[im-not-a-l0ser]

I know that this might be considered impolite, but there's like six days left to reach the milestone and I'm excited and desperate.

Go subscribe to Quinton Reviews on YouTube so that we get videos analyzing Zoey101 and Drake and Josh

The numbers will be rounded up or down to the nearest half

If you don't know who this is, you mightve heard someone mention an 8 hour long video about victorious or iCarly, and he's that guy.

He's made a four hour video about the popularity and fall of Fred Figglehorn, he's made two videos about iCarly at 5 hours and 3.5 hours respectively, he's made two Victorious videos at 5.5 hours and 8 hours each, and three Sam and Cat videos at 5, 6.5, and 9.5 each.

If he reaches a million (I believe by the end of 2023), he will make videos about Drake and Josh and Zoey101.

So if you will... please.

He makes more than just that btw, he has other stuff. I really liked his videos about the bee movie and slenderman. He just gets and deserves a lot of credit for his nickelodeon projects

I'm tagging Starkid stuff because guess what? He's talking about Henry Danger in the newest Sam and Cat video. And as you might know, there's a character named Tim Jerkowski played by Joey Richter in it. And Quinton has mentioned him, so I'm now legally allowed to tag starkid stuff.

Please don't get mad at me for tagging that stuff because of such a small mention, I'm just very excited about all this stuff, and it already seems like starkid fans would enjoy his videos. They're very indepth and interesting and I love even learning about the shows that I've never watched, like Henry Danger or Game Shakers. I've never watched anything Fred Figglehorn related, but his video The Reign of Fred Figglehorn is probably one of my favourites. So, even if you haven't seen Victorious or iCarly or Sam and Cat, you can still enjoy his Nickelodeon series.

I will say, as a side note, I think that the nerds from npmd would enjoy these videos and offhandedly suggest them to Steph, and she'd always be like '9 hours? Nah fam.' And then she'd watch them and run to Pete, Richie and Ruth and say that they were really good and interesting.

#starkid #joey richter #henry danger #time jerker #tim jerkowski #ted spankoffski #tnoy karaxis #tinky #quinton reviews #youtube #nickelodeon #icarly #victorious #sam and cat #fred figglehorn

[punkeropercyjackson]

Do not try to tell me 'this team of characters is so close they're all obviously a polycule!!' is anything reinventing 'you can't be best friends with someone without it being romantic'.Stop dressing up amatonormativity in proggressive language,it's so gross and y'all are so unserious for it speaking as someone who's both aroaceflux and polyam-Not to mention it's almost never said about all girl teams so nice job on the lesbophobia

#tim drake #kon-el kent #bart allen #cassie sandsmark #cissie king-jones #anita fite #slobo #dick grayson #roy harper #donna troy #wally west #koriand'r #raven tt #victor stone #gar logan #joey wilson #miles morales #gwen stacy #pavitr prabhakar #hobie brown #margo kess #konbart #cissiecassie #dickkory #dickroy #punkflower #ghostflower #flowerbyte #amatonormativity #summerposting

[timberlakegallery]

11.15 | JT with Anna Kendrick, Jessica Biel, Lance Bass, JC Chasez, Chris Kirkpatrick, Joey Fatone, John Swanson, Tim Heitz, Christopher Mintz-Plasse, Eric André, Ron Funches, Camila Cabello, Zooey Deschanel, Gina Shay and Walt Dohrn at the special screening of "Trolls Band Together" at TCL Chinese Theatre in Los Angeles, California.

#justin timberlake #anna kendrick #jessica biel #lance bass #jc chasez #chris kirkpatrick #joey fatone #john swanson #tim heitz #christopher mintz-plasse #eric andré #ron funches #camila cabello #zooey deschanel #gina shay #walt dohrn #trolls cast #voice actors #color carpet #trolls band together #premiere #dream works #animation movies #trolls #poppy #branch #brozone #nsync #trolls movie #movie premiere

[shipwreckedcomedy]

We couldn't fit a new Scriptwrecked into our busy schedules this month, so in lieu of that we'll be reading one of our favorite holiday classics with friends for our $30+ patrons on Tuesday night. The stream will be available after the fact if you can't tune in live! 🎄✈️🏡

#shipwrecked comedy #home alone #patreon #scriptwrecked #sinead persaud #sean persaud #tim de la motte #lauren lopez #heather mingo #joey richter #joe stribling #mary kate wiles

[jasontoddssuper]

I'm breaking my silence and saying i hate the polycule Teen Titans and Young Justice jokes and especially the legit hcs.I always see the reasoning being 'They're all so important to eachother,they should all date!!!' and that just feels like reinventing 'People can't be best friends without falling in love' and as someone who's both polyam and aspec it grinds my gears unironically.That and i don't see any romantic chemistry between the members other than Dick with Kory and Roy,Kory with Raven and Donna and Tim Kon and Bart all with eachother and Cassie and Cissie feel like lesbians more than anything else so that only adds to it for me

#teen titans #young justice #dick grayson #roy harper #donna troy #garth #wally west #koriand'r #raven tt #victor stone #gar logan #joey wilson #tim drake #kon-el kent #bart allen #cassie sandsmark #cissie king jones #greta hayes #dickkory #dickroy #starrae #donnakory #timkonbart #timkon #konbart #timbart #cissiecassie #dc #💌 #letters from summer

[livelovecaliforniadreams]

Dawsons Creek 4x20 | The Rookie 6x6

#dawsons creek #pacey x joey #tim x lucy #tim bradford #lucy chen #melissa o'neil #eric winter #pacey witter #joey potter #katie holmes #joshua jackson #love #4x20 #6x6 #it hurts #the rookie

[49311grayson]

Dick: Timmy, you should go out more and get some sun.

Tim: No. Inside good. Outside bad.

#batbros #batboys #bat brothers #dick grayson #tim drake #dick and tim #nightwing #red robin #source: friends #joey tribbiani

[paladin-of-nerd-fandom65]

Dick Grayson

Favorite thing about them: His amazing competence, skills, charm and personality being balanced out so well and the fact he’s one of the few sidekicks that actually legit grew up naturally just wins me over so much

Least Favorite Thing about them: Less said about his romantic escapades and character misdirections at many points post-New Teen Titans, the much better we all are

favorite line: So many but if I can pick one; “Did I already tell you [Kory’s] people evolved from cats? How cool is that?!”

BrOTP : Dick and Babs, Dick and Wally, Dick and Donna (of course), Dick and Roy, Dick and Rae, Dick and Vic, Dick and Tim, Dick and Joey.

OTP: DickKory

NOTP: Any to all Batcest ships. Also SlaDick and (most controversially) DickBabs

Random Headcanon: As a little boy growing up with his parents, Dick had a habit of being a little sneaky if his Mother Mary was still asleep, taking a blue (or black) marker pen and proceeding to doodle on her. Usually he doodles on her two feet as they usually poke out of the blankets, drawing some smiley faces on her toes among other things. Mary in truth is awake by pretends being asleep anyways cause she doesn’t wanna ruin his fun.

Unpopular opinion: I am still waiting patiently for Dick and Kory to not only be married but also have two beautiful children and be just a loving, caring and adventurous family altogether, DC. It’s never too late.

song i associate with them: “Rain” by Jessie Reyez and grandson

favorite picture of them:

Long Live Discowing

#dick grayson #discowing #ask game #koriand'r #tim drake #barbara gordon #donna troy #garfield logan #wally west #rachel roth #roy harper #victor stone #joey wilson #sfw #anti batcest #mary grayson

[superherocaps]

Artwork by Joey Vazquez.

#click for full quality #Joey Vazquez #batman #robin #red hood #nightwing #bruce wayne #Tim Drake #Jason Todd #dick grayson #batgirl #barbara gordon #dc #dcedit #dc edit #concept art #fan art #fanart

[sizzy-ling]

“I don’t think I’ve ever forgotten a thing you said.”

"I remember everything."

#IM SCREAMING #tim has made it his life's mission to ruin mine #people who have grown up with paceyxjoey as their otp understand #ricky x gina #pacey x joey #rina #ricky bowen #gina porter #hsmtmts #dawson's creek

[im-not-a-l0ser]

I can't believe Joey Richter was in two shows that featured people singing against their will.

I mean, I don't think Joey was in that episode. But still.

#he totally shouldve been tho #stage show and tv show #starkid #the guy who didn't like musicals #henry danger #joey richter #ted spankoffski #time jerker #tim jerkowski? i think thats his name?

[lazy-sixteen]

Anyway my ideal no-capes villain team-up scenario is Lex Luthor banging his head against the wall cause Talia Al Ghul and Slade Wilson keep having scheduling conflicts for the Secret Society of Supervillains meet ups because they use the same babysitter (Dick Grayson) so can't take time off in the evenings on the same days.

Lex just tells them to get another guy, but they angrily respond about how hard it is being a single parent (who kills people) just trying to get back out there, with a child (that keeps stabbing babysitters). It's not easy to strike a balance between difficult to assassinate and good at watching kids, okay?

Lex rolls his eyes and looks up Grayson, and wait a second. He's walked in on this guy making Connor waffles in one of his lesser used penthouses. That's his babysitter too, apparently?

#nightwing #dick grayson #its rose he's babysitting but he's also friends with joey of course #also hes deeply annoyed talia keeps paying him to babysit bc thats his little brother! but she has elected to ignore this #Tim was down at the corner store buying maple syrup during the waffle incident #lex talia and slade all still kill people in my no capes au its just who they are

[dailydccomics]

generations of Titans vs Deathstroke Teen Titans vol 3 #45

#dick grayson #donna troy #victor stone #garfield logan #dc comics #wally west #cassie sandsmark #raven #rose wilson #slade wilson #dc #m'gann m'orzz #tim drake #joey wilson #duela dent #titans #teen titans #TT vol 3 #deathstroke #comics

[rocksanddeadflowers]

when I finally started listening to the amazing devil (more than just the song the horror and the wild on loop I mean) i was already sorta hyper fixating on the mechanisms so uuuuhhhh that may have lead to only being able to mentally picture joey batey as gunpowder tim while listening. do with that what you will?

#feel like following this madeleine hyland would be toy soldier #MAYBE raph actually but i think toy works #also i think the gunpowdy tim idea spawned from the horror and the wild album art #bc i got the two in thr album picture switched around and thought “wow that looks like tims hair cool” #bc brainrot obviously #ALSO their voices sounded similar at the time so that and the pic kinda solidified the brainrot idea #maybe it's the accents idk #the mechanisms #gunpowder tim #tim my beloved #the amazing devil #joey batey #ah yes #the ol switcheroo