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josephslittledeputy · 3 years
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This is a super long Headcanon about Austria’s and Hungary’s relationship. It’s connected to my Austria’s Sexual Preferences HC.
 WARNING for Austria being an ass, angst, toxic relationship patterns and some upsetting historical stuff like war and military dictatorships. If you love fluffy cute AusHun and hate that stuff, it may just not be your cup of tea :-).
A quick rundown of some Hungary/Austria history:
“In early stages (1500s) the lands that were ruled by the Habsburg Hungarian kings were regarded as both “the Kingdom of Hungary” and “Royal Hungary”. Royal Hungary (…) was de facto a Habsburg province.” (wiki)
“Rákóczi’s War of Independence (1703–11) was the first significant attempt to topple the rule of the Habsburgs over Hungary. The war was fought by a group of noblemen, wealthy and high-ranking progressives and was led by Francis II Rákóczi. The insurrection was unsuccessful, ending with the Treaty of Szatmár; however, the Hungarian nobility managed to partially satisfy Hungarian interests.” (wiki)
Later on Joseph II Habsburg (1765–1790), Holy Roman Emperor and the Archduke of Austria, abolished local governments in countries that were parts of the Habsburg empire, including Hungary. He established German as the official language of Hungary and divided the country into 10 parts, ignoring the historical divisions that existed until then. He unified Hungarian and Austrian administrations. All of this was met with opposition from some of the strongest groups in Hungary (like the magnates and the Magyar nobility), but they were ignored. Austro-Hungarian conflict was something that has been stewing in the background of the Habsburg empire for years and revolutions were not unheard of. All of this came to a head in 1848 when the Hungarian Revolution began and the Austro-Hungarian war followed.
The biggest event that kick-started the revolution was the illegal act of revoking Hungarian April Laws by the Austrian monarch. April laws were laws established by the Hungarian parliment and ratified by the last Hungarian king (bc even tho under Austrian rule, the Kingdom of Hungary still had some autonomy, such as the parliament). Their aim was to modernize Hungary into a parliamentary democracy. The new Austrian monarch, Francis Joseph, didn’t like that and revoked them. This was a completely illegal act, he had no right nor authority to overwrite the hungarian parliment - but he still did. This really crossed the line with the Hungarians, who - as mentioned above - already had some problems with the way Austria was domineering over Hungary and history of revolting. So it began: “Hungarians brought 12 demands to the Austrian leadership, among them freedom of the press, civil and religious equality, and a national bank. A bloodless revolution took place on March 15, 1848, and the first independent Hungarian government was formed with Lajos Batthyány as Prime Minister.” The revolution itself was bloodless, but the war that followed wasn’t. Austria got help from Russia and the combined Russian and Austrian armies ended up winning the conflict. Hungary was yet again under complete Habsburg control. After Hungary lost, it was put under brutal martial law by Austria and Hungarian generals and members of the parliament were executed, including Lajos Batthyány who - ironically - was trying to reach some kind of agreement with the Habsburg dynasty throughout the revolution. They thanked him with a firing squad. Stay classy, Roderich. Very heavy taxation was put on the Hungarian people as punishmen. All of this was a deciding factor in how the future Hungarian/Austrian relations looked like - the “Hungarian problem” became one of the hottest issues for the Hapsburg monarchy for years to come. The military dictatorship and absolutist rule that Austria introduced over Hungary lasted for 18 years and ended in ‘67 with the Austro-Hungarian Compromise, in which a dual monarchy of Austria-Hungary was established. “The territorial integrity of Kingdom of Hungary was restored. The Compromise partially re-established the former sovereignty of the Kingdom of Hungary, however being separate from, but no longer subject to the Austrian Empire. The agreement also restored the old historic constitution of the Kingdom of Hungary.” (wiki)
Why did Austria agreed to the compromise after almost 20 years of martrial law and terror? WELL “As a consequence of the Second Italian War of Independence and the Austro-Prussian War, the Habsburg Empire was on the verge of collapse in 1866, as these wars caused monumental state debt and a financial crisis. The Habsburgs were forced to reconcile with Hungary, to save their empire and dynasty.”
Headcanon: I personally HC that Austria and Hungary got married in 1570 as a direct result of the personal union between both countries. Until then, the Kingdom of Hungary was ruled by two kings: one Hungarian, and one Austrian, but in 1570s the Hungarian king abdicated in favor of the Austrian ruler. And ever since, until the Habsburg empire fell apart, the Austrian monarch was also crowned as the Hungarian king. So I consider this event the beginning of their marriage. (I’ll explain why I moved the marriage this early at the end of the post. Hint - for narration purposes :D to me a HC has to create a coherent story first and foremost)
They did love each other, and tho their marriage was mostly a political union, they were both happy to start a life together as husband and wife. But the relationship itself was unhealthy, especially for Hungary.
The simplest way I can explain how I see it is: a young, naivee woman in love marries a controlling man, who also loves her, but still wants to completely dominate her. She is shocked by the reality of mariage with him but tries to accept the new way things are now (still, the hungarian revolution of early 1700s shows that internally, she has a problem with the lack of equality).
She convinces herself that her rebellious tendencies are the real problem here, as this is what he tells her, and tries to become the Perfect Wife.
The marriage is a long one and deteriorates very slowly, from Happily In Love, through Disappointment and then Growing Resentment, into an open conflict and the escalation of toxicity. So a story as old as time.
Longer version: Austria was controlling and saw himself as the authority in their relationship: she was to listen to him, never argue with him, speak German to him, be proper and refined and play by HIS rules. She was to completely leave her old customs and ways of life behind (she was a free-spirited horse-riding warrior, he wanted a proper lady in a corset who only speaks about the weather, music and art. Austrian, preferably. She wanted to feel the wind in he hair, he though that was inappropriate. etc).
There was no place for equality here and there was no place for her true nature either. He only accepted her more wild self when he needed military help from her, but then she was to put on her (Austrian) gown again. This was a shock for an outspoken, independent and strong woman, but Hungary at first did believe that this was the best for her (’we’re stronger together’ etc).
Also, she was really in love. To the point of being willing to give up many of her freedoms and passions to be “the perfect mate” Austria expected her to be. She lost a lot of herself during those long years of trying to please him. After all, there was a lot about Austria she admired - he was artistic, subtle, refined, had this air of royalty about him. He could be such a gentleman - she was not used to being treated like a lady, as she was always “one of the guys”, and truly enjoyed it. She LOVED his music. He gave her expensive gifts and composed sonatas and poetry for her. Etc. But still - she wanted equality and to be seen for who she really is, and he was only willing to be the dashing gentleman when she played the role of the quiet, obedient SO. Resentment and anger rose in her and her romantic love and attraction for Austria began to rot away. The Perfect Wife role was at first something she got used to and though she could pull off, but with time, it got more and more frustrating.
When in 1848 the Austrian monarch decided to illegally overwrite her parliament - it was a boiling point for her. She saw red and grabbed her weapon. Tho the attempts of her leader, Lajos Batthyány, to work out a compromise with the Austrian monarch tell me that she did still want to make the marriage work and still hoped that they could become a better couple - just on different terms. But, of course, Austria was not into that. The total fallout of their relationship at this point might have seem unexpected to some, as they did pretend to be the Perfect Power Couple when in front of others, and she was discreet with her angst. But in reality this tension has been rising for years and the marriage has been an unhappy one for some time now.
And from Austria’s side, the sad reality was - he married a woman that was just too strong. That’s why he put such drastic measures in place after the Revolution failed - he wanted to dominate her once and for all and have his Perfect Marriage. He didn’t do it because he was vengeful or evil, he was just selfish and egocentric. In some messed up way, he thought she still could be happy with him, IF ONLY SHE DID WHAT HE TOLD HER TO.
The war and the brutal dictatorship that followed the Revolution were the darkest time in their relationship. It pretty much ended the intimacy they had. During this period they would get into loud arguments, throw things, he would then punish her by being even more controlling, she would take revenge in small ways like ruining his fav shirts by accident and started to think about a divorce. When Austria lost his wars with Prussia and Italy - she was on top of that, pretty much immediately demanding more rights. He had no strength to oppose her at this point. She even felt sorry for him, seeing how weak and wounded he was. Some old feelings resurfaced. The relationship abruptly got better, as she helped him heal while he began treating her better. He apologized for the way he treated her. He said that being at the brink of death made him realize the errors of his way. She was happy and agreed to re-new their vowes (the beggining of Dual Monarchy) - but she never forgot how ugly he could act. Things were never the same again. Something in the romantic relationship just died for her - most importantly, she never trusted him again. He could say all he wanted about how he’s sorry and would never do it again, the reality was - and she recognized it - that he only said those things when he was scared of death and desperately need her. When he was strong and felt well, he held her in an iron fist and forced martial law on her. The Dual Monarchy began, but the the romance was over. They still played the roles of hudband and wife in front of others, but slept in different beds.
This is tragic, because the love they had for each other was real. It was just totally ruined by Austria’s need to be in control of the relationship and inability to see her as an equal. They had totally incompatible ideas of how the relationship should look like.
When they divorced after WW1, Hungary did not suffer. To her, the divorce already happened - she mentally divorced him years ago, all that was left was a husk of the marriage and an old ring. For Austria, it was worse, as he still hoped they could rebuild and was forced to accept the rality that nope, its not happening. He took it badly.
Today they are exes that consider each other friends but Hungary would never want to return to a romantic relationship with him, as she believes that even tho Austria seems more chill nowadays, he would not be able to keep his controlling tendencies in check. This whole thing taught her that she never wants to change for a man.
The relationship between them is very complex and runs deep - tho they had their share of conflicts and toxicity, that does not mean good things never happened. They also know each other incredibly well and there is closeness there that neither of them wants to let go of.
Explanation: I moved their wedding from the birth of Austro-Hungary to an earlier date, because to me personally it makes more sense narration-wise. I don’t think Hungary would ever agree to marry him if the Revolution of 1848 and the bloody martial law already happened - this, to me at least, reads more like a dramatic conclusion to a long, difficult relationship that is becoming more toxic with time and then implodes, not something that happened before the marriage starts. So sorry for it not being very canon-friendly, but to me, it just creates a pretty coherent, emotional story of a downfall of a marriage that had potential, as there were honest feelings involved, but the dude was an ass.
This whole HC was born in baby form when I watched the episode in which Prussia wants Hungary to go hunting, mentions she used to like it, and she refuses and instead prefers to clean Austria’s house.  He then comments that she changed. It was played as lighthearted and funny and I do recognize that Hima probably wanted to show that she got more mature while Pru is still like a kid, but it actually made me really sad for her. Then I watched the show Freud on Netflix and got interested in the anti-austrian movements in Hungary (LOL sorry I know this sounds really silly! ^^’ it’s a good show tho). And it kinda fitted - she wanted to hunt, she was just putting herself in smaller and smaller boxes as the Perfect Wife bc Austria expected that and she still hoped it will make her dream of Lived Happily Ever After come true.
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flystrue · 4 years
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⌠ aubrey joseph. cismale. he/him. ⌡❝ — well, look who’s just arrived ! if it isn’t the one and only eugene lane. though, around here they’re known as the obsequious. don’t tell ‘em i said this but the twenty two year old mechanic kinda has a reputation of being self - critical and acquiescent. but y’know, they can be magnanimous and conscientious too. typical aries. anyways, welcome home and stay safe gene ! ❞ 
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let’s  rock  &  roll  buckerOOS  here  is  a  v  long  intro  bc  i  got  rlly  !  excited  !  abt  this  rp !  i’m  nae  (  twenty  ,  she /her  ,  acst  /  from  good  ol’  australia !  )  and  i’ll  be  playing  eugene  lane  ,  whom  you  can  learn  more  abt  below  !
𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐬𝐭𝐢𝐜𝐬.
full  name  :  eugene  anthony  lane .  
nickname  /  alias  :  gene . 
age  :  twenty  two .  
gender  /  pronouns  :  cismale  ,  he /  him .  
sexual  /  romantic  orientation  :  bisexual  /  biromantic .
hometown  :  born   &   raised  in  misty  hollow  ,  connecticut  ,  babey  !
occupation  :  mechanic .
could  be  compared  to  :  grizz  visser  from  the  society  ,  monty  green  from  the  100  ,  rio  from  money  heist .
𝐛𝐢𝐨𝐠𝐫𝐚𝐩𝐡𝐲.
eugene  lane  :  you’re  born  in  a  run - down  trailer  ,  broken  blinds   &   shattered  kitchenware .  born  to  two  parents  ,  one  of  which  is  nothing  but  an  absent shadow  in  your  life  ,  and  another  who  carries  an  edge  like  knives   ━   you’re  born  on  the  wrong  side  of  the  tracks  ,  but  you’re  not  born  there  alone .  you’re  sister  is  born  several  minutes  before  you  ,  and  she  will  stand  steadfast  by  your  side  throughout  every  up  and  down  ,  she  will  always  be  there  to  be  your  pillar  of  strength  ,  and  that  is  more  than  enough  love  to  survive  on   ━   you  are  brought  up  rough  ,  and  not  just  in  that  busted  up  trailer  park   :   you  blend  into  the  back  of  classrooms  to  avoid  all  the  sneers   &  pestering  ,  but  teachers  see  you  ,  they  remember  who  you  are  .  they  say  you’ve  got  a  decent  brain  in  that  head  of  yours  ,  something  valuable  ,  something  to  be  harnessed  into  greatness .  they  say  all  your  opportunities  are  waiting  for  you  just  around  the  bend   ━   it’s  a  nice  dream  ,  although  you  fail  to  see  your  own  potential .  for  now  ,  you  have  your  gadgets   &   odd  science  experiments  ,  selling  exam  answers  &  reports  to  students  under  the  bleachers  promising  A’s  ,  and  that’s  enough .  
the  household  is  a  tense  one  ,  and  your  mom   &   sister  fight  A  LOT   :   your  mom  is  intolerable  and  cruel  ,  and  your  sister  is  a  spitfire  that  is  easily  ignited   &  not  easily  extinguished   ━   you  do  your  best  to  keep  out  of  your  mother’s  vengeful  path  ,  even  if  it  means  looking  away  when  your  sister  needs  you  most  ,  even  if  it  means  cowering .   you  are  not  a  fighter  ,  you  do  not  raise  your  fists  or  your  tone  :  you  prefer  the  road  less  bound  for  conflict  ,  to  speak  softer  &  use  gentler  palms .  your  father  ,  when  he’s  around  ,  has  said  this  is  weakness  :  too  passive  ,  too  eager  ,  but  gene  can’t  see  a  fault  in  being  kinder  than  most .  
highschool  graduation  is  a  sigh  of  relief  ,  no  longer  hassled  &  tormented  by  peers  that  you  tried  and  tried  to  gain  respect  from .  BUT  NOW  WHAT ?  you  are  at  the  very  bottom  of  the  food - chain  ,  and  you  have  been  brought  up  with  nothing  but  the  tendency  to  only  see  your  faults   ━   somehow  ,  you’re  offered  apprenticeship  at  a  local  automobile  mechanic  in  exchange  for  free  labor   ━   not  ideal  when  you’re  seeking  to  pull  your  own  weight  in  that  new  apartment  with  your  sister  that  neither  can  really  afford .  but  you  make  it  work  ,  you  take  up  odd  jobs  wherever  you  can  find  them   :   drip  ‘n  dry  laundromat  ,  the  hollow  diner  ,  even  your  very  own  from  home  computer  repair  business  that  never  really  takes  off  ,  but  it  pulls  enough  to  get  by  until  you  can  navigate  your  way  under  a  hood  ,  enough  to  say   :   THIS  IS  ALL  ME  ,  eugene  lane  did  this  !    and  that  is  enough .  
𝐩𝐞𝐫𝐬𝐨𝐧𝐚𝐥𝐢𝐭𝐲  &  𝐡𝐞𝐚𝐝𝐜𝐚𝐧𝐨𝐧𝐬 .  
first  and  foremost  ....  he  Baby   .....  GOD  he  really  does  have  a  big  heart  !!!!  cares  abt  people  a  HECK  ton  !!!  everything  he  does  is  for  his  sister  +  those  he  loves  /  befriends  !!!
v  self  critical  of  himself  tho  like  ...  he’s  constantly  doubting  himself  and  his  ability's  even  though  !!!!  he’s  v  smart  !!!  if  u  ever  need  help  with  anything  techy  ,  he’s  ur  man  !
loves  his  job  ...  sm  ...   he  fuckin  LOVES  tinkering  with  stuff .  although  he’s  really  only  been  an  official  automobile  mechanic  for  abt  a  year  or  so  ??  will  flip  out  over  cars  tho  ..  he’ll  ramble  ALL  DAY  abt  his  opinions  on  different  manufacturers .   
he  gives  off  grandpa  vibes  ...  he  hardly  curses   &   he’s  in  bed  by  9 ...  yes  he  watches  soap  operas  in  his  spare  time  ,  and  what  abt  it .
will  Never  snap  back  at  anyone  EVER .  he  will  100 %  always  back  down  from  confrontation .  the  only  time  he  has  ever  stepped  !  tf  !  up  !  was  when  he  was  in  his  late  teens   &   he  ...  lost  oop .  he  got  rlly  badly  injured  (  permanent  hearing  loss  in  his  right  ear .  ) 
strangely  tho  ??  he  is  weirdly  CALM  abt  all  this  murder  stuff .  he’ll  be  like  ‘  yeah  that’s  kinda  Freaky  ,  huh  ’  but  then  5  mins  later  he’ll  be  out  Walkin’  down  dark  alley’s  or  taking  in  hitch -  hikers  : /
but  he’s  also  this  vine  when  it  comes  to  anything  Creepy
𝐰𝐚𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐝 𝐩𝐥𝐨𝐭𝐬 .
gonna  get  my  homies  mood  rings  so  i  know  when  they  need  a  hug  :  bad  boys  bad  boys  .. .  whatcha  gonna’  do  .. .  whatcha  gonna  do  when  they  come  4  u .... i  want  a  BROTP  for  him  !!  YESTERDAY  !!  bonus  points  if  it’s  like  a  dumb  boy  band  squa d  
u  was  my  fuckin’  cinnamon  apple  :  ok  i’m  kinda’  picturing  that  ....  on  /  off  type  relationship  ??  they  are  constantly  a  are  they  /  aren’t  they  situation  bc  one  second  they’re  all  over  each  other  and  the  next  they  refuse  2  speak  to  each  other .
a  strictly  platonic  gal  pal  :  just  a  gal  that  he  is  genuinely  friends  with  ?? not  to  get  my  nerdy  pants  on  but  .....  hermione  granger  /  harry  potter  type  deal  ?? pls  he  needs  it  ...  I NEED IT
break  his  heart  i  dare  u   :   he’s  such  a  sentimentalist  that  he  grows  attached  to  ppl  v  quickly  so  mayb  it  was  first  just  a  fling ??  or  mayb  a  highschool  crush  gone  wrong ?? maybe  he’s  CURRENTLY  crushing  on  them  and  they’re  gonna’  try  and  let  him  down  easy  BUT
a  GIRLFRIEND  /  BOYFRIEND ??  :  just  gonna  throw  it  out  there  ...  bc  who  knows  !  he’d  be  a  good  boyfriend  ...  he  would  open  doors  4  u   &   giv  u  .....  all  his  undevoted  love  and  undivided  attention  ALWAYS .  
a  bad  influence  :  gene  is  a  goody  goody  ,  so  this  person  would  probably  be  pushin  him  outside  his  comfort  zone ??  ━  maybe  they’ve  manipulated  him  in  a  way ??  got  him  to  do  their  bidding  ??  or  mayb  he’s  just  followin  them  around  &  tryin’  to  keep  up  w /  their  shenanigans ?? 
let’s  tell  each  other  secrets  ,  ill  go  first ...  i  Hat e  u  :  kinda  picturing  someone  he  clashed  with  in  highschool  ??  but  mayb  even  someone  who  just  gives  him  a  hard  time OR  MAYB  the  person  he  fought  with  that  last  tim e ??
and  literally  anything  else  !!  pls  plot  with  me ... i  lo v  e u 
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papa-rhys · 6 years
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Temptress (John Seed X OC Deputy)
Note: I’m editing this while in the midst of a gastritis flare up so apologies if I missed any mistakes. Have some completely lovestruck John creepin on my dep from a distance bc hell yeah. Enjoy!
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John watches intently through binoculars with his interest peaked as the newly appointed deputy arrives at a resistance outpost. He’d only settled along to treeline to watch the outpost out of curiosity. It had previously belonged to him, until two days ago, when an unknown woman, fresh from out of town, had taken it over and claimed it as one of the resistance safehouses. He was hoping to gain information from his little stakeout; maybe uncover a secret route between resistance bases or perhaps lay eyes on some new weapons that the resistance was hoping to surprise him with. He wasn’t expecting this new face to stroll into his path, but as he sits on the top of the hill, sheltered by the surrounding trees, he finds himself oddly pleased that she has.
He adjusts his binoculars, zooming in on her as she makes the walk from her car to the front of the building, repeatedly tossing her car keys in the air as she does so. The way she walks captivates John. The way she swings her hips from side to side in those little denim shorts. Her legs are glistening with sweat under the summer sun and they have John feeling an all-too-familiar feeling in his chest. One that bubbles up and whirls around inside him, threatening to spill out of his mouth in the form of giddy laughter.
Lust.
John is familiar with all seven of the deadly sins, but it’s been so long since he felt that one and he’d thought those days were long behind him. What would Joseph think if he here now? If he could see him watching her from the hilltop. John looks nervously over his shoulder, convinced that he, too, is being watched by someone; someone who will waste no time in running to Joseph with the news that John Seed, Herald of the Holland Valley, is a sinner. That he’s impure. That he’s irredeemable.
John follows the mysterious new deputy as she stops to talk to a resistance member. She’s animated in the way that she speaks to him, throwing her hands around and turning around on the spot as the man laughs along with her. John wonders what she’s talking about. Perhaps she’s telling the man of an encounter she’d had with one of John’s own people. Maybe she’s telling him about claiming another outpost; a battle that John will hear about later. She says her goodbyes to the man and heads inside the building.
“No, no, no,” John mutters to himself. “Come back, girl.”
As if God himself had heard John’s mutterings, the woman appears in front of a window on the upper floor of the building. John gets up and quickly moves along the treeline for a better angle, sitting back down again behind a fallen tree. He adjusts his binoculars once more, zooming in as far as they’ll go. The woman moves around in an old break room that looks to be repurposed as a dormitory from what John can see of it. She closes the door and heads to the bed next to the window, where she begins to unbutton her shirt.
John looks away, knowing full well that the church – nor God himself – would ever allow this kind of behaviour. Fornication is a sin and voyeurism is just as bad. But John was never much good at self-control, and he raises the binoculars to his eyes again.
She moves around the room in nothing but her underwear now, and John’s heart beats heavily inside his ribcage, each beat thudding in his ears. She’s completely bewitching; a dangerous temptress, sent by the devil himself to lure John into a trap. John is certain of this.
So why is he willingly following?
John gathers his thoughts for a moment as the woman parades around in front of him, dancing in the sunlight that spills in through the window that he watches her through. She’s blissfully unaware that anyone is watching her… or maybe she isn’t. Maybe she knows John is watching. Maybe she likes it.
John’s jeans begin to tighten and he swallows the guilt down with a hard gulp. He reaches one hand down and fumbles with his belt. Finally unbuckling it, he thumbs open the button on his jeans. He takes another look over his shoulder, taking his time to check every single inch of the horizon to make sure no one will ever know that this happened, and – more importantly –  to make sure Joseph will never catch wind of it.
He turns back around and peers through the binoculars again, but is left deflated when he discovers the room empty.
“Oh, no… No, no, no.” He scans the outpost in search for her, his eyes gliding over the scene. He’s met by nothing but crates of preserves and patrolling resistance members. “Where did you go, my darling?”
“Lookin’ for someone?” a woman's voice asks.
John’s heart stops and he immediately drops the binoculars from his face. A couple of metres down the hill stands the woman, now dressed and with her arms folded across her chest. She looks angry – as though could kill John then and there – but there’s a kindness in her eyes, hidden behind that rage. She looks even sweeter up close and John rises to his feet, fastening his jeans as he does so.
“I was just –“
“You were just what?” she asks, raising her eyebrow. “Go on. I’d love to hear you try and explain this one.”
John is at a loss for words and he opts for a shrug instead.
“So,” she says, making her way up the hill and stopping in front of him. “You thought it’d be a good idea to watch a woman while she changed? I don’t have much love for Peeping Toms.”
John gazes at her as she stands before him, her brows furrowed and her glossy, silver hair blowing across her face in the breeze. He’s completely smitten. Falling in love was not on his itinerary when he’d gotten dressed this morning, yet here he was… though he finds it hard to complain. He hasn’t felt this alive in a long time. The blood is finally pumping through his veins again – his heart skipping in his chest. For the first time in forever, he feels good. He wants to kiss her, pick her up and spin her around, tell her “thank you – thank you for making me feel like a person again.”
But he doesn’t.
He stays quiet.
Minutes tick by as the two of them watch each other in silence. The only noise that can be heard is the wind picking up and whooshing past their ears as a thunderstorm rolls in from the mountains up North. The woman chews on the inside of her cheek and John puts his hand in the pocket of his coat. Just as the woman opens her mouth to speak, she’s interrupted by a resistance member who has approached the bottom of the hill.
“Lucy,” he calls, cupping his mouth so that his voice is strong enough to be heard over the wind. “You’re needed down here!”
Her name is Lucy. A name that means light. A name that fits her so perfectly.
Lucy looks over her shoulder and waves her hand at him. “Okay, I’ll be right there.”
John turns to leave with his head hung low, sorry that his meeting with the love of his life has come to an end already.
“Wait, I didn’t catch your name,” she calls.
John stops in his tracks. She doesn’t know who he is yet? He plans his answer carefully, painfully aware that he’ll never have her if she discovers who he is. And he can’t lose her yet; he’s only just found her.
“My name is Duncan,” he smiles, turning back to face her.
“Okay... Well, Duncan, if I catch you watching me again, I’ll kill you.” She says it in slight jest, but John knows she’ll do it. He knows what this new playmate is capable of; her handy work is scattered all over Hope County – he sees it every time one of his men returns with a truck full of bodies.
“It was nice to meet you, Lucy,” he says politely.
“Yeah, I’m sure it was,” she smirks. “See you around.”
She tucks her hair behind her ear and makes her way back down the hill, trudging through the mud and battling the wind that threatens to knock her off her feet.
“Yes,” John smiles, looking over the binoculars in his hand before clipping them to his belt. “Indeed, you will.”
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aubrey joseph. cismale. he/him. — did you see { lincoln wolff }, i haven’t seen the { twenty } year old in a while! you know, they’re a { student }, and have been living in jersey city for { two years }. some say they’re { critical & dogmatic }, but i think they’re { insightful & pragmatic }. regardless, i’m glad { linc } is here.
in late 1997 grace and quentin wolff were a lil surprised w/ a son who they hadn’t planned on at all ? they actually hadn’t wanted kids at at all, but it was love at first sight and he changed their whole mind abt the idea of a family 
growing up in the small town of bristol, connecticut was boring. sure, as a kid, everything seems big. but even bristol seemed small to little linc and after getting bored of going to the same park every week, his parents decided to put him in a couple different activities around town in hopes of keeping him busy
luckily, it sort of worked. linc started to love heading out every day to play with the other kids, except like almost every other boy his age, he wasn’t the biggest fan of football or basketball. for some reason, he loved frisbee. just going out and throwing it around with his friends or parents was enough to make him happy. he was a pretty simple kid to please, tbh
frisbee became more than a hobby as he grew older and was good enough to be on an actual team ( his parents didn’t even know they had teams for that sort of stuff until linc announced it if we’re being honest ) 
as the years of ultimate frisbee went on, things changed. his parents adopted a little girl from the next state over, jasmine, who he loves more than anything and would protect from jokes about her being adopted at all costs ?? kids bullied her constantly when they were younger and he made it rather obvious that that wasn’t going to fly w/ him 
high school made linc realize that ultimate frisbee wasn’t exactly a career and in a panic, he signed up for some computer classes after hearing about the easy a’s it would earn him
except it ended up not just being an easy grade for him. linc loved the basic codes they learned and how they could change what he was looking at on the screen in just a few clicks. it was fascinating to him and soon enough, it was his new obsession. with help from his tech teacher junior year, he started a few computer science classes early at his local college with the full support of his parents. this was what he wanted to do for the rest of his life. 
it was no question for him to major in computer science by the time applying for colleges came around. he applied to the closest colleges that had his major, hoping he could stay close enough to visit his family more than once a semester. however, he ended up with the school that offered him the most financial aid, it being a smaller school in jersey city. 
despite the bigger distance than he would have preferred, linc quickly grew to love the school and the city that was so much bigger than bristol. it brought out a new side of him and helped him grow into the twenty year old he is now 
even though linc was one of the most outgoing kids in his elementary school, he’s on the quieter side these days. he’s not shy or awkward, simply just pickier about who he makes an effort for. he gives off that guy in the movie whose dark and mysterious vibes, you know ?? he gets insulted when someone mentions it, though
so f*cking smart ! he got a full ride and actually loves his difficult classes ? in fact, the more difficult, the better for him. crazy
not only is he smart when it comes to computers and coding, but just in general he’s a pretty wise guy ?? not the first person you’d come to for advice but when you do, you won’t regret it ok 
super realistic ? kind of a bummer ? bc people his age are all about dreaming abt being rich and traveling and he’s like lol that’s not happening when you spend all of your money on alcohol billy ! alk;jsf he’s kind of annoying which is partly why he only has like . three friends if he’s lucky 
also kinda ties along w/ him being critical ?? will judge you if you do stupid shit a lot and he’s not very shy abt it at all even if he barely knows u ? it’s so bad he literally can’t shut up sometimes abt his opinions, and it’s even worse bc he refuses to ever think that he’s wrong
trying to correct him is ineffective bc he’s always right in his head and ur wrong if you don’t believe him . he will walk away if you try too hard to argue w/ him 
smokes weed, that’s all abt that really ? he likes it and it makes him feel mellow y’know ?? he’s cool like that ( or he thinks he is at least )
big ass nerd, but that’s probably really obvious considering his major and the fact that he loves ultimate frisbee
makes playlists for people, yes ik it’s cheesy but he’s just the type okay ?? it worked out that he just makes playlists for people he’s close to and this is the only thing he’s ever shy abt 
oh, is also very shy/secretive about how much he wants to feel wanted , bc despite his parents never abandoning him for some reason he just ?? feels this ? and can’t make it stop ? so yeah he just needs someone to tell him that they want him around bc it’d be nice 
has never really been shy about the fact that he’s pansexual sooo yes, people him up he’s gr8 
some ideas for connections besides the usual !
ex(es). anybody could fit this and i won’t go into depth with ideas because honestly anything could work as to why they dated and/or why they broke up so it would just end up a whole essay ? preferably angsty because who doesn’t love those kinds of plots ?? also love fluff tho.
ultimate frisbee. somebody please give this man someone to play frisbee with. he will love u forever and will always ask them to hang out, even if it’s just to play frisbee for five min and then lay in the grass and just talk for the rest of the day. 
frenemy. someone who constantly tries to prove him wrong but for some reason, he appreciates it/finds it funny. they’re the one person he can tolerate trying to correct him, or at least he can most of the time. other times he just shrugs them off and tries to give them the cold shoulder for a day or two just to piss them off. 
crush. this boy needs someone to make playlists for that he says are just bc they’re close friends. he’s not the most open about his feelings as he’s scared that they won’t be reciprocated but he can’t really help but be the tiniest bit open about this one even if he ends up getting hurt in the end. 
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helga/eirik and joe/mae?
Them…
Bounty hunter and a hunter
Which member would be shy about dancing in public and which member would try to coax the other into dancing with them? Eirik would be more awkward about it, he hasn’t spent his last three years partying in pubs and taverns, Helga would definetly drag him closer to the open space and join whatever dance is going on, Eirik has no clue but Helga is shouting directions for him
What TV Trope wou326y5ld best describe your OTP? I guess fool for love for Eirik bc he’s cynical as fuck and Helga is sunshine in a humane form
Which one would hold an umbrella over the other when it rains? Eirik as the gentleman
Which one fixes up the other one’s outfit in the morning (adjusting a tie, putting hair in the right spot, etc.)? Helga would help Eirik put on his leather armor and tighten the straps and make sure everything is in place, he appreciates this even though he’s perfectly capable of handling it himself
What pet(s) would your OTP get? Helga had few goats circling her cabin and oh my god they were still there when she returned three years later, she takes good care of them, Eirik is not so fond of them though they keep headbutting him in the ass
If one was a magician, would the other be an assistant or a rival magician? They would be rivals for a while
If one has a health issue and/or disability, how does the other member help the first one out? Eirik goes blind after a smokescreen or poisonous gas gets on his face, Helga is there to guide him in her cottage and he settles there as well, to get him used to his new life, he gets used to it fairly well and helps Helga upkeep her little farm-like… thing
What sorts of things would they give each other “just because”? Helga gets Eirik some local-made leather accessories, leather is the speciality of the elves anyway, he does have use for some quality gloves/vests/whatever, he bring Helga flowers, it may not seem much but the light in Helga’s face when she sees them is priceless
Which member is more likely to fall asleep on the other member? Eirik is a busy man, he needs rest, and boobs are great pillows he can’t deny
Is any member extremely (maybe even violently) protective of the other? Eirik knows Helga can throw a man, strangle any offender and so on, but he still has that bit protective streak in him, after he’s blinded, Helga is the overprotective one
Which member would draw on the other when given time and a marker? Eirik would sketch Helga drawing her bow, feeding the animals, tinkering with her dress and vest, just everyday stuff, he loves about her (shit i read this question wrong omg)
How would each member react to seeing the other in a bathing suit? they don’t use bathing suits when they swim Helga sees his phoenix tattoo the first time and is just so fascinated with it, and his arms are well defined too, like the rest of him, dang. Eirik just steps back a little and admires her figure, bathing suit or no
And then dorito and cheeto
Which member would be shy about dancing in public and which member would try to coax the other into dancing with them? Maeve hears a good jam playing? She’s reaching for Joe’s arm already, be it a slow ballad or a cheeky disco beat, she wants to get close to him. Joe with his huge figure would fill up the dancefloor and please i need to get back to post near the door, husshhh, the other bouncer is doing well enogh
What TV Trope would best describe your OTP? One head taller or Huge guy, tiny girl, depending on the angle, i myself lean more towards the latter 
Which one would hold an umbrella over the other when it rains? Joe, be a gentleman will ya, of course he will, besides if Mae would have the umbrella, Joe wouldn’t see where he’s going
Which one fixes up the other one’s outfit in the morning (adjusting a tie, putting hair in the right spot, etc.)? Taken that when they move in together Maeve is the one that stops her current work first, every time Joe needs to go she’ll be at the door brushing dust off his armor or just doing really anything to get the last touchy feely she can before he’s gone
What pet(s) would your OTP get? The giant dog (maybe mixed breed bc mixed breed dogs can be as cute as breed dogs) Joe brought home, well if three kids weren’t enough to liven up the place now it sure as hell is
If one was a magician, would the other be an assistant or a rival magician? Rivals for sure
If one has a health issue and/or disability, how does the other member help the first one out? Does either of them get badly injured like that? I’d say Maeve would have a some kind of heart disease later on but only when she’s actually old and vulnerable for things like that, and the fact that Japanese have high risk of such diseases because of their genes (just like Finns sadly) idk about Joe, she’d still be able to look after herself and her diet, Joe helping is much appreciated
What sorts of things would they give each other “just because”? Joe’s little souvenirs from his work trips, be it bracelet or flower, Mae loves them and the fact that Joe thinks about her while away. Maeve would get something for Joe as well if she sees something that just screams ‘JOseph Batbayar’ to her and she will get it
Which member is more likely to fall asleep on the other member? Does Joe like boob pillow? I see no reason not to like boob pillow. Joe’s lap is the perfect size for Mae she’ll make a nest in his hoodie and maybe fall asleep while watching a movie with him, it is up to him how he manages to get them both to bed
Is any member extremely (maybe even violently) protective of the other? Joe bc as you said he sees it as his duty as the man™ to take care of his lady, even though he himself had little trouble handling said lady, if she gets too hurt or drugged i see Joe cracking his knuckles and ready to shut down the light of whoever did that
Which member would draw on the other when given time and a marker? I’d see them both doodling on each other, Maeve doing little designs on Joe’s shoulders and him drawing more flowers on her to accompany her tattoos
How would each member react to seeing the other in a bathing suit? Maeve’s first reaction would be something like ‘AA i knew it he’s got beef everywhere, not just the arms, dang, and that chest tho’ She wants to feel his upper body herself she can’t help it. For Joe, idk, pls add? :3c
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⦁ TITLE: Bad Things (part v) // CHATZY ⦁ WHO: Faith Dane and Joseph Montez ( @joemontz ) ⦁ WHERE: Catskills Mountains ⦁ WHEN: 18 January 2017 ⦁ TRIGGER WARNING(S): Murder, death ⦁ SUMMARY: With Joe's assistance, Faith ends one of the demons haunting his life. ⦁ ADDITIONAL NOTES: This got posted way later than planned and is kinda incompleted, but I didn’t want to not post it when the other four parts were and I really love how it came out?? If that makes sense. So like.. ignore this bc this was back in Westchester. Or read it if you want to. This is done via chatzy! Part five of five. 
FULL ORDER: Part I | Part II | Part III | Part IV | Part V
Being in a forest wasn't how he thought he would be spending his twenty-first birthday. Usually these birthdays would be sent spending at a casino or something, maybe a bar for first time drinkers. He's been drinking since he was sixteen, so it's nothing new to him. Maybe he wouldn't be questioned as much, but it didn't mean much to him. Besides, this was something he had to do. FAITH was glad to have JOE with him for this, otherwise he wouldn't be able to anchor himself down to do it. He receives a text message from DEREK, notifying him that he'll be there in less than ten minutes. He lets out a breath and he looked to his friend. "He's almost here." He tells him, running a hand through his hair nervously. He can't screw this up.
Even though he agreed to partake in this plan, JOE's starting to have doubts on this. Memories of his five murders back in California are starting to come back to him, but he didn't want to show his guilt and doubts. The older male taps the stirring wheel of his car which was parked hidden in a campsite nervously. "Alright, wanna go over the plan one more time ? " He asked even though he knew it multiple times. He just wants to know just in case the plan backfired.
FAITH nodded and tapped his fingers against his knee as he thought over it. "Right.. when he gets here I'll meet up with him in the clearing with the fake bag of cash." He started to explain, setting the bag he was talking about on his lap. He knew that's what DEREK wanted, but he wasn't about to hand over that much money. "You stay behind a few feet 'cause as long as you do, whoever he brings with him they will stand back as well." It was better for DEREK to know straight up he has someone with him rather than let him find out and risk losing his friend immediately. They don't play around. "And when he walks away with the bag, I'll shoot him in the back of the head." Images of his dad's deceased body flash through his mind for a second, and he shakes those away. "And we gotta take cover behind a tree or something immediately."
JOE listens attentively at the plan once more, nodding at each step. "Got it, and if we have to get rid of DEREK's body, I have some stuff in the trunk we can use." He suggested, turning off the car engine once a shadowy figure was walking towards the clearing. "He's here, mate. Let's do this." The older male said opening the door and shuts it.
FAITH took a deep breath as the other had gotten out. He grips onto the door handle a little harshly, the shadow figures reminding him of the previous January. When the same figure had been running after him, having no idea where he would come from. ​This time I've got you​, he thought and he gets out of the vehicle with the bag. He checked his pocket to make sure he had his gun then he shut the door and he slowly ascended towards the clearing where he found DEREK waiting with his men a good few feet behind him. "Ah, FAITH ! " The blond man smiled, almost sickeningly sweet. It was as faux as his intentions. "You're actually here. Thought you might've had second thoughts." His eyes fall on JOE. "And you've brought a friend ? " FAITH licks over his lips once he's stood a good distance in front of him. "I've got your money, DEREK." He showed him the bag, which makes the man peer at it in interest. "We've got our deal ? " The man smiled to him. "As soon as you pass over the money, you have my word. I'll leave you alone." FAITH chewed his lower lip and he tossed him the bag.
JOE follows FAITH to the clearing but stops his tracks so he stands behind the short male and near his car for a quick getaway. He places his hands behind his back which a gun was tucked in and stands to watch the plan in action. When DEREK mentioned him as a friend, JOE glimpses at him in the eye then averts the other guy behind DEREK and glances back to FAITH. The male watches intently and waits for the next move right when the older male gets the fake bag of money.
DEREK caught the bag, holding it in one hand simply to weigh to make sure it felt like money. FAITH's nerves were all over the place as DEREK opened to check. The blond stared for a few seconds before closing it and tossing it to one of his men. "Your debt has been paid." He announced, and FAITH was able to relax a little that he actually fell for the false money. It looked more real these days - which FAITH was thankful for. "Feel free to lose my number then." The brunet told him, making the blond's lip quirk up slightly with a laugh. "Funny.. but you know mines if you wanna do another." He turns around to walk away and that's when FAITH's hand made its way to his pocket, brandishing the weapon and clicking off the safety as he raised it to point at the back of his head. The sound of it makes DEREK pause in his walking. "There won't be another." That's when he pulls the trigger.
Once the "money" was taken, JOE watches his friend take out the gun and witnesses the murder of DEREK. That's when hell breaks loose. A few of the now dead man's cronies pull out their guns and begin shooting the two guys. In an instant, he pulls up his gun from the back of his pants and pulls the trigger, bullets hitting some of the men. He manages to dodge bullets from the latter crew and keeps shooting until everyone else except him and FAITH remain standing.
The bullets going off left his ears ringing, and FAITH backed up a good distance, dodging the bullets that came so close to hitting his skin. He shot back and eventually both of DEREK's goons were down as well. The firing of weapons cease and his heart is still racing within his chest. This really just fucking happened. It's finally over with. He knelt down on the ground, having to have a moment to try and compose himself. To actually breathe when during that whole time he didn't take in a single breath.
After the shooting battle, JOE takes a moment to realize that this just happened. It's like California all over again, except he wasn't alone. He regains his breathing and go back to reality and looks at FAITH who's doing the same. Silence fill the outdoors except with the occasional rustle of the trees. "Are you alright ? " He asked.
FAITH didn't reply for a couple of seconds, focusing on whatever was around him to keep himself from having what could potentially be a panic attack. He didn't need that right now, and that's also when he knows how much DEREK has put an impact on his life. He keeps reminding himself he's gone, that he can't do anything to him or anyone. He takes in a sharp breath. "Yeah.. yeah.." he mumbled, then he glanced up towards JOE. "are you ? "
JOE waits for a response while keeping himself intact from throwing up or breaking down. He took out five people, he has gotten use to not break down. "Yeah..." JOE nodded with a sad face and eyes watering. " We...we should get rid of these guys." He added.
FAITH nodded in agreement and he slowly got up to his feet so he can be at his fullest height. "Burning them might be a quicker way to get rid of them. We could just dump them in one of the fire pits and light them up ? " He suggests, and he knows that must seem very sketchy for him to say. It's not like he cares anymore, they gotta get rid of these bodies. "If you have any gasoline, that is."
"Gasoline, matches, shovels, anything you can think of. I also have gloves so none of our fingerprints are on these guys. C'mon, get up." He holds out his hand for FAITH to get up. JOE pulls him up and lets go before leading him tot he trunk of his car. He pops the trunk open and takes out two pairs of leather gloves. He gives one pair for the other to wear and puts on his own gloves. Those fire pits are too small for five dead guys, so I got this." JOE takes out an axe.
FAITH raised a brow at the axe but he didn't question it as he pulled on the gloves he was given. He helps to drag them all closer so it's an easier work for JOE to chop them up. He got over the back of the trunk again to take out the gasoline that's in the back and anything else they would need before rounding it back towards him.
JOE worked on chopping each of the bodies, dumping each part in the fire pit. Once all guys are in the pit, JOE takes out a cloth to clean up the blade of the axe and puts them back in the trunk and gets the box of matches. "Ready when you are." He tells FAITH who has the gasoline.
FAITH nods and he starts pouring the gasoline all over the chopped body parts inside the pit. He makes sure he doesn't miss anything to completely rid of any trace of evidence. It reminds him of the last time he poured gasoline all over someone.. the first person he technically murdered; how quick his body had taken aflame. He shakes the vivid image out of his mind to step back a little so JOE could light them. "Good to go."
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June 7th, 2018 CTP Archive
The archive for the Comic Tea Party chat that occurred on June 7th, 2018, from 5PM - 7PM PDT.  The chat focused on The Pale by Jay Fabares & Sanders Fabares.
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✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
COMIC TEA PARTY START!
Good day everyone~! This week’s Comic Tea Party is now officially beginning~! Today we are discussing The Pale by Jay Fabares & Sanders Fabares~! (https://tapas.io/series/The-Pale) For those new or in need of a reminder, discussions about the comic are freeform, so please feel free to bring up whatever you wish. However, every 30 minutes I will be dropping in a discussion question to help those who would like a prompt. These questions are totally OPTIONAL to answer, and you can pay them no mind if you wish. If you miss out on any though, they’ll be pinned for the duration of the chat once they’re posted~! Remember, constructive criticism is allowed, but the primary focus here is to have fun and appreciate the amazing comics that the community makes~! As a bonus, each chat a top comment will be picked and featured in the archives and on an ad for CTP! All that being said, let’s get started and have a great discussion!
QUESTION 1. What is your favorite scene in the comic so far and why?
snuffysam
I won’t be able to be around much this week, but I’ll just say that I loved the speed dating scene. Really set up Fink’s personality, skill, and face blindness well.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
yeah the speed dating scene was pretty interesting. i really like in general how the face blindness is portrayed with the comical same faces. like something about that makes face blindness both understandable but subtly horrifying
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
I'll echo that. I liked when the different art style on the faces was revealed to be character related.
Also, Fink was all "this is not how I expected her to react... smokebomb!" vanishes
And he's had bad luck ever since.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Hi there!
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
tbh i did not expect his speed date partner to react that way either XD
hey super
Agent Jay (The Pale)
Hello!
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Hey there Jay!
Great to see ya~(edited)
Agent Jay (The Pale)
haha likewise
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Gotta expect the unexpected.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Yes
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Hi artist/author/writer (one or all of the preceding...)!
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
glad you could make it jay~!
Agent Jay (The Pale)
I'm the artist and Co writer
totally! glad to see y'all like the speed dating part
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Very clever way to set up characters, don't think I've seen it before.
Agent Jay (The Pale)
when I read my husbands first draft of that scene-- I was all smiles
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
That's nice~
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
I also kind of liked the knife throwing scene. I knew pretty much what was going to happen when I saw Fink out front, but it was still entertaining and set the tone of their interactions going forwards.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
You two make for a good team, I enjoy how realistic (for the most part) and lifelike the comic is.(edited)
Agent Jay (The Pale)
yeah, the knife scene was fun. The ending went through a lot of changes.
and thanks Super!
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
You're welcome.
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Aiming for a different balloon? I noticed some of those slogans... speaking as someone over 40...
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i really liked how the knife scene kind of characterized the town. only in a small town would it not be considered a safety hazard to just throw knives at the wall
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Impressive background detail, actually. I caught myself trying to read the chalkboard in the sherriff's office right off the start.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
lol
And yeah the backgrounds have lots and I do mean lots of details(edited)
dylandrawsdraws
the comic is awesome - I still love the wolf with the hand as a great intro and tone setter
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Anything to help make it pop.
Agent Jay (The Pale)
haha, I'm 36. the ending was hard bc we didnt know who was going to say the last line for the longest time it was Fink.... but then suddenly we had the idea for Joseph Yazzie (Logan's friend) say something. and it worked out well we think.
little title drop-- sorta there--
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Right, yeah, well played there. Other ideas paled in comparison.
dylandrawsdraws
Am i allowed to ask questions?
Agent Jay (The Pale)
ah coyote scene you mean!
dylandrawsdraws
(yeah coyote!)
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Right, the wolf and the hand bit. Effectively creepy.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
#PraiseCoyote
dylandrawsdraws
I think @MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑 will always think it's a wolf
#teamwolf
Agent Jay (The Pale)
... so funny.
And um, I guess you can ask Q's
dylandrawsdraws
Can you tell us about your process
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Call the wolf Virginia. To go with Dawn Knotts.
dylandrawsdraws
script and thumbnails, etc - the collaboration between you and this mysterious writer you work with
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
(That was a clever name, by the way. I didn't catch on.)
Agent Jay (The Pale)
really? SHAME
Agent Jay (The Pale)
1. We start with a general outline of what we want to see happen 2. eventually that goes down to what is really needed and my husband Sanders writes a 1st draft 3. I then read the draft and make changes-- rewrite scenes, take away, change dialog 4. we argue 5. and repeat till we are happy with it! 6. I start rough layouts/lettering/edit some more 7. (see step 4) 8. eventually everything falls into place and then we have a final edit pass 9. BOOM done.(edited)
dylandrawsdraws
oh very cool
sounds like a mini pixar
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
That's nice.
Cool seeing what goes on behind the scenes
Agent Jay (The Pale)
and @MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑 Dawn Knotts was the only character that didnt go a name changes.
even Fink was Franklin INKS
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Oh? Were they all puns originally?
Ahhh.
Agent Jay (The Pale)
sorta... Logan originally was Sam Addams
then it went to Scott Logan (xmen joke)(edited)
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Yeah, it's an interesting name juxtaposition there. F. Ink. Whereas some people might call FBI types using slang.
Agent Jay (The Pale)
now it's Terrence Logan. I took the Terrence from a discarded character-- I loved the name too much to waste it.(edited)
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
ah yes always a good use of discarded characters. when in doubt steal their stuff O_O
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Yea
Agent Jay (The Pale)
haha-- right?!
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
I gather that the story takes place in... New Mexico? Texas? Nevada? That area...
Agent Jay (The Pale)
It's a made up town south of the Navajo Reservation, so it is Arizona (I hope I'm not derailing your chat)(edited)
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Gotcha. My US geography is poor. (Well, my geography in general is poor.)
Agent Jay (The Pale)
between Flagstaff and north of Winslow...
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
The bit of Navajo on the radio was clever.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
how much research did you put into the location out of curiosity?
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Eh, we just chat about whatever anyway. Rebel will have a random question again in about 5 minutes.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i mean generalized location since its a made up town
Agent Jay (The Pale)
We spent a lot of time considering where the location would be in real terms
The inspiration of the town is a mix of our experiences of small towns in Arizona and on the Navajo Rez. But also-- bc we like small towns
I based the town layout off of Holbrook Arizona more or less.
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Holy cats. That's impressive.
Agent Jay (The Pale)
haha
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
I think the small town atmosphere is well captured. The deputy who hangs around the game instead of being on radio and all.
Agent Jay (The Pale)
Dewey! haha yes... I love him.
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Actually they've got a pretty large police force.
Relatively speaking.
Agent Jay (The Pale)
there's 4 with badges and luca at the station, Logan, Dewey, Russ and Dawn
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
tbf to dewey it seemed like the whole town was at the game so like...who is actually gonna call
QUESTION 2. Not long after the mysterious body is found in the story, Agent Fink enters the scene and gets involved “off the books.” However, his motivations remain elusive. Why do you think Agent Fink is so intent on everything staying off the record? Is it personal or is this a professional risk? What do you think is the significance of the rock found with the body, and why does Agent Fink seemingly have more rocks? Do you think this mystery has something to do with Isaac? If so, how does Isaac factor in to both the mystery and Fink’s motivations? Lastly, what do you make of the dreams Fink has been having?
Agent Jay (The Pale)
haha, I guess this is when I don't talk... heh
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
I'd lay dollars to donuts that it relates somehow to those dreams. And presumably to the dreams that the woman in the tapestry place had been having too.
(It being his involvement.)
The rocks, of course, is all a red herring. Fink just likes collecting rocks along with bird watching.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
he should pick better rocks to collect then
invest in geodes
and he can expand his horizons. go get some petrified wood since hes in az
snuffysam
He just showed up to get his hands on that rock
wishjacked
AHHH, good evening, guys!! I've been looking forward to this chat for a while, I'm glad I could make it (albeit late)
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Or just scare a bunch of normal wood...
Fink has plans to become a rock musician.
snuffysam
I don’t think that’s how they get petrified wood math
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
No?
dylandrawsdraws
can I ask about character design and how you do the settings and prep work
for settings?
snuffysam
It’s his DREAM to become a rock musician
That’s what the dreams mean!
wishjacked
Catching up: I love so very many of the scenes, but the one that really hooked me was the coyote scene-- such a classic, beautifully executed mystery setup. And I loooved all that wildlife
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
as someone who lives in az, no i confirm. thats how we get our petrified wood.
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
That was Fink's drummer showing up at the end of Part 3.
Agent Jay (The Pale)
sure Dylan! which character do you wanna know about?
(and HI CHLOE)(edited)
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
More seriously, birds are definitely going to factor in too, methinks.
wishjacked
Still catching up: One thing I think really works with the comic is the balance between quiet, slow images and faster moving dialogue: I love when the comic slows down to linger on images. One part that I kinda liked for that reason was with Yazzie visiting Nathaniel's house and looking at the rug on the wall, the lingering look at the rug really slowed the scene in the best way. Also when Fink is wandering through empty Rocket Ridge. Such a good way to build tension, improve pacing, and draw attention to the art. So good
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Hey there Wish
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Related, I liked the bit in the plane where the pilot was all "I have binoculars somewhere" and Fink's like "I'm good". There's lots of little fun things in the comic too.
wishjacked
(and HI JAY!!! :D)
Agent Jay (The Pale)
y'all might get a kick outta this-- some early sketches of Fink and Logan
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
OMG those look nice
wishjacked
(And hi to SuperJustin, too!!)
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Neat! Hm, Fink was shorter.
Agent Jay (The Pale)
haha the thing was very cartoony and different in tone at first.
the THING=-- THE COMIC...
der
wishjacked
Ahhhh, that art is so good hahaha. Look at these good guys! XD
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Personally I think the final/current style fits the comic a lot more than something cartoony IMO
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
wishjacked: Agreed. One of those things that I didn't really notice, but to have it pointed out, yeah. And like the woman just turning at the bottom of the page during that rug scene. Vaguely ominous but you don't know why. Probably attribute some of that to pacing.
Agent Jay (The Pale)
funny bc they changed-- but also remained the same?
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
And yeah wishjacked made a good point about the slow and fast moments.
omg that hairstyle
Agent Jay (The Pale)
oh totally Super... we changed the look really bc the tones are much darker. The story helped determine the style
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Seems liek younger/older comparisons
Agent Jay (The Pale)
ha
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Yus
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
You could include the early drawing of Fink as a picture on his desk. Or maybe as his ID badge.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
The art style can give you lots of insight on a comic's tone so you want to make sure it's just right
Agent Jay (The Pale)
We work hard on the pacing. glad that shows!
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
That would be a cute little nod IMO
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
We never look our best on IDs/driver's licenses.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
^^^
Amen
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
I'm also vaguely waiting for someone to call Fink "Mulder".
wishjacked
and regarding question #2, I always get a feeling from this comic that things aren't quite what they seem in this story, so I'm very hesitant to barf up ideas about Fink's motives. Whatever they are, I think they'll be unexpected. I wonder if he has some inklings of the supernatural (???) elements of the story he's in
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
maybe they will someday. when theyre less busy putting him up in a hotel and more busy investigating things
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
but the hotels are super comfy
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
well given the dreams i think hed have to have an inkling
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Fink being good with dialects probably means he'll know if anyone he runs into is from out of town. Or... out of this world?
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
unless he just thinks hes the weirdest dreamer in all the land
snuffysam
He acts on rock mysteries though. You wouldn't do that if you thought your dreams were just dreams
wishjacked
and yes, Math!! Ohh, going off on another tangent about that scene, it was so well lighted too. The lighting in this comic also really helps the tone. That was a very ominous scene.
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Maybe he thinks everyone has those sorts of dreams. Could be normal for him.
"My face blindness thing is an unusual quirk, but at least I have nightmares like normal people!"
Agent Jay (The Pale)
lol
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
possible but i doubt it O_O
until proven otherwise im assuming that isaac was murdered while investigating something and fink is trying to solve the murder but no one can know cause supernatural stuff and everyone will think hes crazy
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Also I just wanna say the inn rooms look awesome for something out in the wilderness (from what vibe the comic is giving me)
How old is the inn anyways?
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Actually, I wonder when Fink was diagnosed.
dylandrawsdraws
@Agent Jay (The Pale) hmmm which character? fink and logan -
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Crazy theory: Someone is killing people by dropping huge rocks on them, followed by shrinking the rocks down real small.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
dat crack theory(edited)
dylandrawsdraws
and the yazzie?
the native american?
Agent Jay (The Pale)
the inn... around the 1950's(edited)
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Oh wow
Agent Jay (The Pale)
I went through several sketches with Fink. I knew he was tall, slender, and had a dog... much like Tin Tin and that's sorta why he looks cartoony in the beginning I think... but as the story evolved, again, I just kept pushing he design to reflect that. He is supposed to resemble a bird with his hair a bit. Sort of like a crest.
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Ahh, Tintin, that would explain the early hairstyle a bit. Though the bird connection is interesting too.
Agent Jay (The Pale)
when I drew the HAIR.. I knew I had something I think...
from 2013
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Oh christ
That's quite a prototype
Agent Jay (The Pale)
Logan was a typical big guy on campus type deal.
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Clever not starting the story with Fink, in a sense. It makes it more about this particular mystery and the town itself rather than one FBI case among many.
Agent Jay (The Pale)
stoic, middle aged, seen stuff, understanding, father figure type(edited)
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
I see what you're sayin
Agent Jay (The Pale)
thanks Math!
snuffysam
and fink is a young, fresh face
but when they get together
the shipping begins
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Did someone say
ships
dylandrawsdraws
oh these early drawings are great
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
QUESTION 3. Despite Rocket Ridge being a small town, the discovery of a body jumpstarts a lot of strange things. Do you think someone in the town had something to do with the body that was found? If so, who do you suspect (or have we not met them yet)? If not, do you think it has to do with the town supposedly having run-ins with the supernatural? In the most recent page we do see the supernatural, so do you think it has something to do with the body? In the background there is also Sheriff Logan, the man who discovered the body. Do you think Sheriff Logan will help or hinder Fink’s investigation into the situation? At the very least, do you think Logan will discover the real reason Fink is there? Of a last note, how do you think the comic’s events will affect Logan in general?
dylandrawsdraws
can you talk about your inspirations - other media, comics, whatever?
Agent Jay (The Pale)
i watch a lot of crime dramas(edited)
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Any crime dramas in particular?
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Things between Fink and Logan are definitely off to a "rocky" start. I think Logan will work out that this isn't an authorized case though, starting by looking into how Fink flew in in the first place.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
(This is a really interesting question to ask a creator IMO)
Agent Jay (The Pale)
Recent favs The Killing, MindHunter, DARK, Twin Peaks (haha), Longmire
snuffysam
i think fink having to walk into town will have piqued logan's interest, absolutely
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
I get why Fink wouldn't want to come clean, suspecting supernatural elements (and wanting to avoid being labelled a Mulder) but Logan doesn't seem like the type who enjoys other people trying to barge in on his territory. I mean, he was stubborn about that coffee machine for how long?
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Ooh nice
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
well and nobody likes the fbi
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Pretty much
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
cause they throw their federal weight around
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
The dog does, apparently.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
the dog is a spirit guide clearly
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
And actually that counsellor seemed to get on well enough with him.
Agent Jay (The Pale)
Emma
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Yes. I'm abysmal with names.
Ask anyone.
Agent Jay (The Pale)
yeah her and Fink got off to a okay... start sorta
yknow.. hotdogs and stuff
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i do think its inevitable logan is gonna find out about fink tho. cause fink is gonna order him and logan is gonna be like "let me talk to your superior" and then fink is gonna be like "oh shit."
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
She musterded up the courage to speak to him.
Agent Jay (The Pale)
omg
slow clap well done
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
It's beautiful
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
I wonder what Fink would get out of hearing me speak.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
I wonder that too
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Aside from an excuse to be elsewhere.
snuffysam
i wonder what fink's determined about the officers he's met from their voices
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Maybe he can exposit to the dog.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
hes probably determined that dang is he sure in a small town
although he probably learned that from the knife
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Or his tiny alien friend.
(It's actually Logan in a suit.)
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i hope fink's linguist thing comes up with logan. cause i feel like hes just gonna reveal all these personal things about logan at some point. and logan will be frowny face
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
That would be hilarious @MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
"You thought it was extra terrestrial, but it was I, Dewey!"
Agent Jay (The Pale)
or Russ...
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
So, back to crazy theories, do you think the Tapestry Woman is committing the crimes? Because she's possessed by her tapestry, it exited her dreams and into real life?
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
if i had to pick someone who was magically involved with the body and mystery, itd be dewey. O_O his radio wasnt off cause lazy. it was off cause he was busy committing more murders.
snuffysam
nah i think she's forseeing them
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Ooooh, nice one Rebel.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Yeah Rebel, good pick.
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Also a nice take, snuffy. I wonder if she's trying to weave warnings into her work.
snuffysam
yeah that's what i think is going on. and at some point, fink will find out.
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
By spying with his binoculars.
snuffysam
i was thinking by like... someone mentioning it
say someone who lives with her
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
maybe tapestry lady was abducted by aliens and thats why she had nightmares. and she makes tapestries cause she knows one of them is still out there.
snuffysam
or maybe she's just psychic for unrelated reasons
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Perhaps
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
She knows they'll want to buy a tapestry as a souvenir gift before returning to their home planet.
She's saving that dark one for them.
snuffysam
she's preparing to open a tourist trap for aliens?
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
That would be a clever way of capturing the aliens
Or not, if they're armed
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Gotta trap 'em somehow.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Yes
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
wait what if by weaving the tapestry she set the creature from her nightmares free. and the reason she keeps it is out of guilt and the belief that one day she has to destroy it to destroy the creature.
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Actually, what if Fink is psychic? Maybe that dream he had in the plane was prophetic.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
maybe. i tend to view his dreams as more symbolic. like im really interested in the fact he has faceblindness and isaac in his dreams had no face
snuffysam
maybe that's not isaac. how would fink know?
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
that is also a good point
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
By the voice, possibly.
snuffysam
fair
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Only we don't know.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
to be fair it might not have been isaac for the fact "isaac" was wearing a shirt that says "This is you"
which lends credit to the dream being prophetic
cause theyre warning him
actually yeah even tho "isaac" is talking the text is written as intelligible. so we cant gurantee he recognized isaac by voice
snuffysam
so yeah i may be right then
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Yea
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
So it was Fink himself!
snuffysam
the shirt did say as much
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
QUESTION 4. Besides the bigger mysteries, there is a lot of small town drama going on. At the game, we meet Emma Bloom who Dawn clearly doesn’t care for. What do you think the history is between them? Does it have something to do with Logan, or is it just between them? What significance might Emma have further along? Another noteworthy character when it comes to drama is Nathaniel. Why is Nathaniel trying to obtain a gun? Is it just for protection, due to his angst, or is something else going on? Do you think this will get him in trouble with Joseph who is keen on watching him? In respects to the larger plot, what does Nathaniel’s end of the story have to do with any of the other events going on? Are there any other dramas or characters you thought were intriguing?
snuffysam
i think emma v dawn is definitely something relationship related
not sure as to what though
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
I'll ship Emma and Dawn.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
maybe emma was supposed to marry logan but then she noped out of there. and dawn knows and is like "how dare"
snuffysam
that's not entirely implausible, math. one dumped the other at some point, and there's been bad blood ever since
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
I feel like it's more of a professional issue than a personal one. Based on their professions.
Snuffy: True 'nuff!
snuffysam
what could the professional issue be, then? because in a small town, dawn's probably had to yell at everybody at least once
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
maybe its nothing relationships wise and the two are just rivals. like dawn always feels like emma is one-upping her
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
I figure maybe the counsellor gave bad advice to a kid, who maybe then had a run-in with the law or something.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
but only dawn feels this and emma is like "wait what"
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Or maybe it was just a very bad "take your kid to work" day.
Dawn seems reasonably laid back though.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Lol
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
maybe dawn just doesnt like other women in general usually
snuffysam
like she's just always catty? i guess we haven't seen her around that many other woman.
she seems friendly enough with luca though
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
it could be more...defensive shyness? like make dawn was bullied in school by other girls and thus takes a while to open up
alternatively, emma was the bully
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Maybe Emma was arrested once.
Also, yeah, I have no idea where that gun angle is going. Nowhere good, I presume.
Given the attitude of the guy with the bullets.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
im just curious how this is gonna tie into fink. unless they decide nathaniel will be their tapestry expert for some reason.
or maybe nathaniel is after that alien creature thing we see haunting fink
and thats why he wants a gun
snuffysam
i think he'll reveal the tapestries to fink, but i don't know how or why
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Maybe he has a bird interest too.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
maybe its just a casual thing that gets brought up. like logan and fink will catch nathaniel getting the gun and have him in the car. and hell just offhandedly mention something about the tapestries
snuffysam
maybe he has a bird "interest" and that's what the gun is for
but yeah i think rebel's right
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Perhaps
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
and then theyll get joseph yazzie involved and itll be ultimate cop trio
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Meanwhile the ladies solve everything back at the station.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
on a different note, i cant wait till fink is boiling in the az sun
snuffysam
ooh yeah, he hasn't seen the sun up yet
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
not to mention his suit is dark colored so its gonna absorb more heat.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Yea looknig forward to all that sun
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
and then all the cops are gonna snicker at his unpreparedness
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
ye
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
He never seems to get the breaks to go his way.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
pretty much.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
on another different note, i like that fink just accepted the dog into his life
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
I'm a cat person sooooooo.... sure. ^.^
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
lol
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
im also a cat person. but i can appreciate someone getting a pet after being followed, shrugging, and going i guess this my life now
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
I get the feeling Fink has to do that a lot.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Yea
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
One other thing I want to mention before we wrap, that "favourite panel" contest I saw partway through. I thought that was really clever, I don't think I've seen that anywhere before.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Before time's up, If you see this, Jay, keep it up, this comic is a really great read and I love every bit of it.
snuffysam
yeah the contest was cool
as was the rest of the comic. keep it up, agent!
Agent Jay (The Pale)
ty ty
glad you guys enjoyed it
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
My pleasure
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Ah, you're still here. Yes, very well done.
Agent Jay (The Pale)
i've been working on some touch ups to ch4 ... and reading in here.
very fun
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Yea
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
In a final twist at the end... we learn that this was all about "The Pal, E".
snuffysam
maybe the real pale was all of us
Agent Jay (The Pale)
hahaha
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Lul
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Knife throwing can spark many emotions.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Yus
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
well i am really pale so it works O_O
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