#julia hbo

[echofades]

BLANCHE & JUDITH JULIA | 2.04 | CHOCOLATE MOUSSE

#julia #julia hbo #juliaedit #blanche x judith #blanche knopf #judith jones #ok I watched this show purely to make gifs for linz #so there will be a few to come hope she and the other two fans of this show enjoy x #I did genuinely enjoy it though can't beat a bit of sarah lanc #and judith's lil face

[rosalie-starfall]

Avis DeVoto

Julia - Bûche De Noël

#Bebe Neuwirth #Avis DeVoto #Julia #Julia hbo #2023 #my gifs #tv edits #tv : Comedy #Julia Episodes #Bûche De Noël #bebedits #I'm very much a dead lesbian #What a week to get caught up! #Spoilers #Julia Spoilers #Julia hbo Spoilers #I Love her so much!!!

[juliewlters]

Julia | 2x02

#julia hbo #sarah lancashire #isabella rossellini #the creators really said i'm gonna make a show SO gay #(and yet not) #i'm obsessed with how much isabella looks & sounds like ingrid as simca too #*

[iamadequate1]

Don't Stream on Max

Ragging on Max is fun, isn't it? This is going to be long since I brought tables. Here's a kiss GIF to get people's attention!

Let's be real: if HBO/Max has a cancellation rate this high and is the only streamer with a cancellation rate approaching these numbers, we're long past the point where fingers can be pointed at the shows individually, trying to invent unique "failures" in each one separately... except for Zaslav's baby, The Idol, that show deserved it. If there is an oddity like this, deduce down the common factor, and the common factor here in all these "failures" is WBD/HBO/Max. WBD does not know how to run a streaming business, and yet, it is charging consumers the highest rates in the industry.

✨Cancel Max now✨

Remember that WBD sponsored article from Vulture? Remember?? Specifically...

And then there was the final strike against last month’s canceled trio of titles: their production costs. As noted earlier, all three series went into development circa 2019-2020, at a time when competition for hot new shows was beyond intense. Streamers were handing out ridiculous deals in order to land coveted projects and agreeing to license fees and production budgets that were usually only reserved for big, established blockbuster hits. So a series like Rap Sh!t, which had the feel of an indie production and used iPhones to tell its story, ended up costing Max twice as much to license as HBO’s critically loved, niche comedy Somebody Somewhere, per a source familiar with show budgets. Our Flag Means Death, the same sources say, had a license fee three times that of Somebody.

First of all, they picked the smallest show they could in order to justify ~scary~ words like "twice" and "three times" without any danger of being specific, but they also picked a show that was "renewed" and I can find no evidence it's being worked on anymore!

But 2019-2020, let's discuss that. The merger was finalized April 8, 2022, and Max, the illicit love baby between Discovery+ and HBO Max, launched on May 23, 2023. On its face, Max has the second largest sticker price of streamers, and that sticker price is mostly built from that HBO prestige, but I'll build to that...

Let's say Zaslav had to let 2022 roll, so let's look at 2023, shall we? HBO/Max had 11 shows debut in 2023.

Velma (Max - renewed + lol)

The Last of Us (HBO - renewed)

Fired on Mars (Max - Purgatory)

Gremlins: Secrets of the Mogwai (Max - Renewed)

Clone High (Max - Purgatory as new season is coming in)

The Idol (HBO - cancelled)

Warrior (Max - cancelled + moved to Netflix)

Adventure Time: Fionna and Cake (Max - renewed)

Young Love (Max - Purgatory)

Scavengers Reign (Max - Purgatory)

Bookie (Max - Renewed)

Wow! Not even half confirmed renewed, and one of the success stories is Velma. HBO also only debuted two series that year: TLOU was in development since 2020, but The Idol was still in early stages when Zaslav wandered in. Since he didn't put a stop to it, The Idol remains Zaslav's sole contribution to HBO, especially since according to Wikipedia, the show went under a "drastic" overhaul in April 2022, the month of the merger.

There is an article going around citing that Max has a 26.9% cancellation rate, and that seems.... off? It is still far higher than every other streamer, but it's still lower than what's expected from what we've seen of WBD/Max. If you look at Max's original programming list and HBO's original programming list, something's not adding up. I tried to follow the source back, but it wanted money, so I'll do it myself! I suspect that the glut of mindless reality shows, exploitative docuseries, and miniseries really brought that percentage down.

I'm just going to look at the cancellation of actual scripted shows, ignoring miniseries (that's just a big movie on purpose and no concern about #FinishOurStories), series that haven't aired an episode yet, non-English series (most don't have Wikipedia entries and are a messier thing to research), and co-productions (as Anne with an E showed, sometimes the partner can be responsible for cancellations -- this unfortunately leaves off series like Gentleman Jack). I also limited myself to series that had/about to have a season debut after the merger date (April 8, 2022).

(I've got the 'tism, and I enjoy making spreadsheets.)

Drama:

Comedy:

Anthology:

Continuation:

Adult Animation:

Kid/Family:

(Note: I used "ended" if I immediately saw that it was the creators who ended the show on purpose.)

HBO Breakdown:

Max Breakdown:

Combined:

HBO/Max is hovering around a confirmed 50% cancellation rate. I don't expect shows like Tokyo Vice and The Sex Lives of College Girls to last past their seasons that are about to premiere, and I expect many of these other "renewed" or "pending" shows to disappear into the ether.

Let's talk money. What is the monthly cost to subscribe to streamers? To make my life easier, I'm not going to list out yearly costs.

Streamer | Cost/Month with Ads (USD) | Cost/Month without Ads (USD) Apple | n/a | 9.99 Disney | 7.99 | 13.99 Hulu | 7.99 | 17.99 Disney/Hulu Bundle | 9.99 | 19.99 Max | 9.99 | 15.99 Netflix | 6.99 | 15.49 Paramount | 5.99 | 11.99 Peacock | 5.99 | 11.99 Prime | 8.99 | 11.98 Starz | n/a | 9.99 Discovery+ (on debut) | 4.99 | 6.99

Disney and Hulu together without bundling would be 15.98 with ads and 31.98 without ads, so each bundle is 62.5% of what it would have been with a double charge. If Max would be a similar deal, the HBO and Discovery pieces separately would add to 15.98 (ads) and 25.58 (no ads), so assuming no Discovery inflation (and, lbr, the starting pricing was already too high), the HBO piece would be 10.99 (ads) and 18.59 (no ads), putting HBO as the most expensive streaming option.

It's hidden, but Max is a bundle. Discovery+ and HBO do not have overlapping shows or audiences; it's really like if ESPN and Disney tried to sell itself as one service without telling anyone.

Since I tossed out the reality pieces, the cancellation rates I have above are the HBO pieces. If you're paying for Max, you're paying for the most expensive TV option, while paying for the highest turnover in TV productions. If you're subbed to Max for one show, it would be cheaper to just buy it from a digital store or, you know, 🏴‍☠️

So, circling back to the initial quote: sobbing about being beholden to the wacky 2019-2020 greenlights, when those greenlights are the only reason people are subscribed to the service in the first place is certainly a choice! Especially since now that the only "originals" Max is offering up are on par with Velma and The Idol, and the prestige TV that were underway at the time of merger (ex, TLOU and that upcoming HP show) maybe justify a one month sub-and-binge per year. With this obscene cancellation rate and creator disrespect, they aren't going to nab any more big projects, but they sure want you to pay them like they are.

Look, I'm not getting into the labor and worker treatment parts of this, and I'm not getting into the media representation parts of this or how non-white/straight/male shows have to meet impossible standards. Both of those are also egregious and part of a much, much larger discussion. Just from a purely consumer point of view, Max is a bad product.

Cancel Max. It is not worth your time to care about anything they put out.

Anyway, some petitions for shows that this failed streamer dumped recently. Max won't pick any of them up again, but you can show other streamers that there is interest for them to pick up the shows!

Our Flag Means Death

Rap Sh!t

Julia

Winning Time

Warrior (S4 has not been confirmed with Netflix)

#petitions at end #our flag means death #ofmd #save ofmd #adopt our crew #david zaslav #hbo max #max #don't stream on max #rap shit #rap sh!t #julia hbo #winning time #warrior #the gilded age #the gilded age should help out their Gay Twitter brethren

[fuckyessarahlancashire]

Sarah Lancashire as Julia Child - Season Two

#sarah lancashire #julia child #julia hbo #tv #gif

[soreheadinamblemood]

#julia hbo #bebe neuwirth #avis devoto

[elliehopaunt]

In the long run, she should be included among the short list of actresses who truly elevated the craft- Streep, Duse, Bernhardt, Leigh, Hagen, Dench, and Page.

We are truly so fortunate to be living in the same time as this incredible artist. Not just an actor- an artist.

#sarah lancashire #julia child #catherine cawood #caroline mckenzie dawson #julia hbo #happy valley #last tango in halifax #she is art

[carmelasoprano]

Bebe Neuwirth as Avis DeVoto in episode 2x07 of Julia, "Shrimp and Grits"

#bebe neuwirth #avis devoto #julia hbo #julia #edit:bebeneuwirth #edit:julia #edit:avisdevoto #* #` #i dearly love looking at this beautiful woman's face #especially as i take breaks from reading about the ubiquity of postfeminist approaches to successful ageing in celebrity culture #as something to be 'managed' so that the body must be constantly surveilled for fear of deviating from #narrow conceptions of normative feminine beauty defined by youthfulness #raise a glass to every woman in the entertainment industry not dyeing her hair‚ going under the knife‚ or being injected with botox #and pour one out for every woman in the entertainment industry who is in an effort to make the most out of an impossible situation that #would limit her financial mobility and career opportunities if she didn't fall into line! #hear‚ hear #i will say though that i think as many women who can afford not to undergo cosmetic surgery as a 'solution' to aging shouldn't #because those who have prestigious enough careers (think meryl streep) can continue to land rolls anyway #and i think more women could leverage their success without resorting to such means #rant over i guess

[instantespanoramicos]

Oh Simca

#julia hbo #sarah lancashire #david hyde pierce #Julia x Paul #Julia Child #Paul Child #isabella rossellini #simone beck #simca beck

[echofades]

JULIA | 2.04 | Shrimp & Grits

#julia #julia hbo #juliaedit #blanche x judith #blanche knopf #judith jones #photoset #no greater power move than sitting in a room full of people including your husband #and telling them you only love your job and judith #judith's wibbly chin </3

[rosalie-starfall]

Avis DeVoto

Julia - Season One

#Bebe Neuwirth #Avis DeVoto #Julia hbo #Julia #2022 #Sarah Lancashire #Julia Child #David Hyde Pierce #Paul Child #Lindsey Broad #Dorothy Zinberg #my gifs #tv edits #tv : Comedy #bebedits

[voltives]

#julia hbo

[iamadequate1]

OK, people are still being jerks

It's just a stupid show! Why do you care or give money to this when Bad Thing is happening in the world?? Omg, you are so embarrassing!

I tell you, a Bad Thing has been happening every day of my life on this earth, and I still want some enjoyment out of my squishy mortal existence.

There is an emotional burden to living. We can't live our lives stressed and in anxiety all of our waking moments. We need entertainment, leisure, and play. This helps our brains rest.

But if we're going to Go There because of these "activists", let's talk about fascism a bit, shall we? So many of us read 1984 in school, right? With the Newspeak and novel-writing machines? It's a dystopia that cuts language down and prints out its entertainment without a creative process behind it. Fascism is anti-intellectual and has a disdain for the arts, only wanting to recycle the past. Fascism marginalizes those with less power. Fascism wants to control all of the mass media. Fascism reveres corporations. ... fascism is bad, btw.

Representation in media is important. Stories are a big part of how we pass down history, share culture, and build community in a society. No, the shows that people are upset about losing may not be Shakespeare, but most things aren't. I was going to go on a longer rant here, but you know what? You Get It or you Don't. The arts and telling inclusive stories are Important, even if it's not Life-or-Death. People can care about more than one thing at once.

If we're looking at what's happening with Max right now, they're cutting out queer shows, shows with large BIPOC casts, and shows with female leads. We're watching these streamers and companies dissolve into one another (WBD/Max wants to merge with Paramount, remember). We're watching shows that aren't led by cishet white males disappear and shows that aren't cookie cutter, strictly-by-the-numbers IPs or procedurals or cheap reality shows disappear. Maybe we'd be allowed to get bare minimum tokenism if we're lucky, and if we're extra lucky, get some marketing! There are some exceptions in streamers... now. Two years ago, HBO Max was the place where new stories could be told safely, and nothing is stepping in to take its place now. Sure, some bad shows may have been canceled back in the day, but that isn't what's happening right now, is it?

People creating these stories deserve a living wage, even if they don't pump out Record Profits, and storytellers (and the audience!) should have some safety in being able to finish the story in some manner. Almost all of the financial difficulties facing Max now are due to mismanagement at the executive level, not quality of products. Any show that does something new or tells a different perspective does not last. It's not even about "numbers." Our Flag Means Death outperformed everything, but here we are. OFMD is a rarity now that it has the loud and passionate fanbase to make waves.

So, here are some petitions for three shows canceled this week on Max. (Remember Max is planning to throw over $125M at a season of TERFy wizards) Fandoms should support each other!

Our Flag Means Death

Rap Sh!t

Julia

#our flag means death #ofmd #renew as a crew #save ofmd #rap sh!t #julia hbo #hbo max #max #david zaslav

[fuckyessarahlancashire]

Sarah Lancashire as Julia Child (2x01)

#Sarah Lancashire #Julia Child #Julia HBO #HBO Max #Isabella Rossellini #David Hyde Pierce #tv #gif #Julia

[elliehopaunt]

🌸Flower girl🌼

#julia child #julia hbo #sarah lancashire #flower crown

[creamyberries-lovely]

The Gilded Age S2xE6 - Warning Shots Julia S2xE2 - Fried Chicken

#christine baranski #cynthia nixon #sarah lancashire #isabella rossellini #the gilded age #the gilded age hbo #the gilded age season 2 #julia #hbo julia #julia child #simone beck #julia hbo #julia s2 #gilded age #hbo #the gilded age gif #julia gif #julia hbo gif #hbo gif #gif set #tv gifs