#julius/marius

[duxfemina]

It's the late Roman Republic...

Now put in the tags what you selected and who you THINK it's referring to... Because I sneakily had at least two people in mind when I made each option and when the poll is over I'll reveal who I had in mind for each option

#roman history #ancient rome #roman empire #how often do you think about the roman empire #ancient history #julius caesar #pompey #augustus #pompeius magnus #caesar #the roman empire is my roman empire #lucullus #crassus #Marius #gaius marius #marian reforms #sulla #pompey the great #mark antony #brutus #Hamilton #and peggy #lepidus #marcus agrippa #sextus pompey #octavian #the Gracchi #Gracchi brothers

[just-late-roman-republic-things]

Marius & Sulla: former friends who'd fought multiple wars together before their conflicting ambitions put them at each other's throats

Caesar & Pompey: former friends and in-laws who both tried to prevent their civil war before pride, suspicion and political pressures tore their alliance up anyway

Antony & Octavian: hate at first sight lmao

#mark antony #octavian #julius caesar #pompey #gaius marius #lucius cornelius sulla #just roman memes #jlrrt speaks

[violetbirdie]

Emperor's Children before the fall.

From Left to Right: Julius Kaesoron, Marius Vairosean, Lucius, Lord Commander Eidolon

#emperor's children #lucius the eternal #lord commander eidolon #julius kaesoron #marius vairosean #40k #warhammer 40k

[mariussuggestions]

If I had been at the Stabbening you know I would have consumed him. Sulla might have haunted his narrative but at the end it's still me slurpin

#gaius marius #ides of march #gaius julius caesar #tagamemnon #lucius cornelius sulla

[elainesknight]

THEORY: Roman Republic died because of father issues

PROOF: Her last fathers were

Gaius Marius: Father of failson

L. Cornelius Sulla: A daddy not a father

He Who Speaks: Dolabella marriage, Octavian situation, Cicelina fic

Every man's WIFE: Self evident

CONCLUSION:

Cicero and Hortensius should have fucked nasty on the rostra. SPQR

#gaius marius #lucius cornelius sulla #marcus tullius cicero #gaius julius caesar #tagamemnon

[averyhh]

Here, have my new fic about Fulgrim and the boys™️ torture p0rn. I’m currently too weak to finish it but not sorry at all.

Characters: Fulgrim, Lucius, Kaesoron, Vairosean, and Fabius. Canon-typical reflection crack’d content here, please read the tags and be warned!

#warhammer fanfic #fulgrim #lucius the eternal #julius kaesoron #marius vairosean #fabius bile #dead dove do not eat #my fic #drown in the mirror that is his eyes

[brother-emperors]

CARRION EATER

this is some kind of standalone idea. the original version was much more goofy, crassus was going to cover up pompey's mouth and say, 'no, no. he's got a point. let him speak,' and then pompey was going to bite his hand and say, 'you're not even supposed to BE here.'

then I read a review about a staging of julius caesar that sounded like it got REALLY mean (because it involved improv since it seemed like the intention was supposed to be interactive with the audience) and decided to add some teeth into it.

(also yes, I broke the 180 rule. it’s fine. usually I try to include panels that show characters walking around when I do that, but this comic was a standalone, so instead pretend that I’m spinning the theoretical cameraman around on an office chair or something. or that the camera is a ghost.)

also because titling something Carrion Eater and then NOT having it get a little mean and nasty in the dialogue seemed. like a waste.

eventually, I'll figure out a design for lucullus that I like, I keep wanting to draw other characters when I draw him, so he might need a new hairstyle.

ONWARDS! this is playing off of this scene

To this Lucullus retorted that Pompey was going forth to fight an image and shadow of war, following his custom of alighting, like a lazy carrion-bird, on bodies that others had killed, and tearing to pieces the scattered remnants of wars. For it was in this way that he had appropriated to himself the victories over Sertorius, Lepidus, and the followers of Spartacus, although they had actually been won by Metellus, Catulus, and Crassus. Therefore it was no wonder that he was trying to usurp the glory of the Pontic and Armenian wars, a man who contrived to thrust himself in some way or other into the honour of a triumph for defeating runaway slaves.

Plutarch, Pompey 31

the romans are fightingggggg 🍿🍿🍿

finally, the painting panel is taken from Giovanni Battista Tiepolo's The Triumph of Marius (through the Met's Open Access/Public Domain use policy etc)

bsky ⭐ pixiv ⭐ pillowfort ⭐ cohost

#ALRIGHT HERE WE GO #if you saw this a second ago. no you didn't (i uploaded a page at the wrong resolution lmao) #ANYWAY 'you broke the 180 rule' yes i know i don't care about that rule #however what i shouldve done was drawn backgrounds and panels so you could see them moving around #on the other hand. this comic wasn't that serious and it was to test out a gradient setting. #long post #drawing tag #komiks tag #roman republic tag #SHSHGH finally im free. this was taking up space on my ipad that i need for other things #i just couldn't find the energy to finish lettering the last two pages. ehghh #marcus licinius crassus #gnaeus pompeius magnus #lucius licinius lucullus

[opera-ghosts]

„GÖTTERDÄMMERUNG“ R. WAGNER

„HEIL DIR, SIEGFRIED, SIEGENDES LICHT!

HEIL, STRAHLENDES LEBEN!“

Some Siegfrieds.

Ernst Kraus as Siegfried; ?, ?

Theo Strack as Siegfried; ?, ?

Erik Schmedes as Siegfried; Vienna, ?

Heinrich Knote as Siegfried; Munich, ?

Carl Burrian as Siegfried; Dresden, ?

Fritz Vogelstrom as Siegfried; Dresden, 1916

Otto Lähnemann as Siegfried; Leipzig /Braunschweig, ?

Max Merter Teer Mer as Siegfried; Zurich, ?

Richard Kubla as Siegfried; Vienna (Volksoper), ?

Alois Pennarini as Siegfried; ?, ?

Dr. Julius Pölzer as Siegfried; Munich, 1932

Josef Schöffel as Siegfried; Karlsruhe, ?

Rudolf Ritter as Siegfried; Bayreuth, 1924

Lauritz Melchior as Siegfried; London, 1929 (picture from Bayreuth)

Hans Tänzler as Siegfried; Berlin, ?

Marius Verdier as Siegfried; Lyon, ?

Jacques Urlus as Siegfried; ?, ?

Fritz Windgassen as Siegfried; Stuttgart, ?

Dr. Horst Wolf as Siegfried; Coburg, ?

#classical music #opera #music history #bel canto #composer #classical composer #aria #classical studies #maestro #chest voice #Götterdämmerung #Twilight of the Gods #Richard Wagner #Musikdrama #Der Ring des Nibelungen #The Ring of the Nibelung #The Ring Cycle #Old Norse #Ragnarök #Norse mythology #Siegfried #classical musician #classical musicians #historian of music #history of music #classical history #musician #musicians #music drama #Epic poetry

[snailcoded]

OFMD PSA it's spelled Lucius not Lucious

-ius, same as other names like Marius or Julius. Not -ious like an adjective like luscious or precious

#it's because of luscious #I GET IT #but still #please #ofmd

[duxfemina]

If you were going to pin the BEGINNING of the downfall of the Roman Republic on the actions of one Roman

#roman history #ancient rome #roman empire #how often do you think about the roman empire #ancient history #julius caesar #pompey #caesar #pompeius magnus #the roman empire is my roman empire #gaius gracchus #gaius julius caesar #gaius marius #marian reforms #tiberius gracchus #the gracchi #sulla #lucius cornelius sulla #marcus licinius crassus #crassus #Pompey the great #i will cry over every vote for Pompeius

[just-late-roman-republic-things]

Marius after Caesar got his ass kicked in a completely unnecessary fight: This morning you fought like men. Like stupid men, but men.

Santiago Posteguillo rarely jokes, but when he does, he's usually taking the piss out of Julius Caesar.

#unlike colleen mccullough whose crush on caesar can be seen from space lol #she's better at overall accuracy but i think posteguillo's caesar has more plausible characterization so far #it's a nice change of pace from either evil!caesar or marty-stu!caesar versions #gaius marius #julius caesar #jlrrt reads #santiago posteguillo #roma soy yo

[vergi1ius]

Gaius Julius Caesar was not a good man. He was certainly a clever man, intelligent, charismatic. But also brutal, ruthless.

His leadership of the conquest of Gaul was continually punctuated by brutality, and resulted in the genocide of dozens of Gallic peoples. We may point to the siege of Alesia, famous for the Roman double encirclement: as food became scarce in the city, the Gallic leaders sent the women and children out of the city, in hopes that the Romans would feel obligated to care for them where the besieged Gauls could not.

The Romans did not take these women and children in, but left them to starve in the space between the city and their encirclement.

Then in Rome, he broke the laws of peace, bringing his armies into the city under his command. While the Republic had already been weakened by the rules of Marius and Sulla, Caesar just about finished the job of transforming the nation into a true dictatorship, the implicit threat of his violence compelling the Senate to declare him Dictator for Life.

His heir, Augustus, would go on to finish the job and fully convert the Roman Republic to the Roman Empire.

But may we remember the sheer violence it took not only for Julius Caesar to reach the place he did, but also for he and his heir to remain there: the proscriptions, the civil wars, the suppression of any objectors.

Let us, then, have the courage of Brutus and Cassius, and their associates, who took a stand against this tyranny and for the ideals of Republic.

Thus always to tyrants.

#ides of march #julius caesar

[catilinas]

Hi love your blog and your Cicero translations! I saw you mention the masters of rome series and I was wondering about your thoughts on McCullogh's portrayal of Caesar?

i’ve had this image on my phone since 2019

i am. not a fan. of her caesar. in fact her caesar characterisation, and more than that, the way it distorts the characterisation of everyone around him is one of the biggest problems i have with the series. like there are soooooo many good and nuanced characters in the first two books and then as soon as caesar is born + old enough to matter it’s like the caesargoggles descend and suddenly the boni as a political grouping only exists because they all are so so jealous of sexy caesar and his enormous dick. and colleen isn’t even subtle about it! i remember this one part where the bibulus-narrative-voice just like. tweets that out. like ok even if you’ve decided that must be the motivation of Several different characters. at least complicate their awareness of this?? but no. by that point only caesar gets that much interesting interiority.

it doesn’t help that i’m just. not that interested in caesar. at all. i just don’t care about him Other than as a ghost (a spectre of both marius and sulla! until his ghost becomes its own whole Thing for octavian! and i Do find colleen’s takes on a) octavian and b) octavian’s thoughts on #caesar’s spirit verryyy fun). whenever i reread bits of the series i find myself mostly skipping the caesar chapters which are unfortunately A Lot Of Them. and then when i Don’t the shift between the narrative voice of ‘ohhh caesar you’re so sexy and perfect and if only rome had accepted your perfect reforms’ and then like. clodius being batshit or something. just makes me miss sulla and His narrative voice! colleen’s caesar is most interesting when he’s having a Sulla Moment!!! or. ok i know i just said i don’t like how much he overshadows literally every other character by being so perfect all the time BUT i do actually enjoy the chapters on caesar’s childhood a fair amount. like marius and sulla both hate him he’s convinced of his own destiny he’s trapped in a fucked up little priesthood and he’s like 14. and You The Reader have the knowledge that like. that’s literally julius caesar. it Does compel me. especially against the other uhhh three? characters (servilia, cato, octavian) you get to see grow into their adult selves. but yeah it’s less interesting to me as Caesar Characterisation than as being a haunting by the marian/sullan period that then haunts these other characters.

um what else. i do respect colleen’s commitment to the ‘values his dignitas above his life’ Bit. love to see historical fiction that really Gets Into specific ancient values. even if it doesn’t always Quite succeed. big fan also of caesar having a very specific vision of what rome is / should be (although different visions of rome is like. the point of the series. caesar’s is just the one it focuses on a Lot) vs the part about how octavian sees caesar As rome and the consequences of that. it’s fun! there’s ghosts!

#is this coherent. i hope so because i’m not reading back over what i just wrote #i’m drinking water and going back to sleep augfhvgdgg ouch my Brain. #masters of rome #big c #beeps

[monstersinthecosmos]

Unhinged Ides of March thought:

Marius lies half asleep/awake during the day, dreaming of Julius Caesar being stabbed twenty-three times, in horror, as he exsanguinates, but also in longing, at the waste. He's so thirsty, whither Caesar's life? It merges with nightmares of the grove when he watches a remake of "Murder on the Orient Express" one night. The gangster, unable to wake, bled out, for justice. Drugged blood. Marius' mouth is so dry, his lips are cracked. "Mother," he says.

you are amazing 🥹

#🥵🥵🥵

[licncourt]

shitty roman history in vc with licncourt pt 1: why marius de romanus is a nonsense name

This is way more detail than anyone needed, but I'm taking the opportunity to share a little bit of fun (debatable I know) Latin trivia. I think I'm going to go through Blood & Gold and maybe Pandora and make this a series.

Anyway:

Marius' full name is an absurd blend of Latin and French. It should either follow Latin grammar to become Marius Romanus OR French grammar to become Marius de Romain. This is the most glaring problem and the reason it grates on me like nails on a chalkboard.

Secondly, the name Marius isn't really a Roman name. It is technically, but it's a cognomen, a surname. The most famous Marius in history was the general Gaius Marius. He's referred to as "Marius", but as a formal way to distinguish him from peers in scholarship, as is the case for many historical figures, ie Shakespeare or Robespierre.

The typical naming convention in Roman society when VC Marius lived (at least for his social class, senatorial) would've been the tria nomina, a three part name consisting of the praenomen (what we could consider a first name), the nomen (an indicator of the larger clan), and a cognomen (a family name more akin to a surname).

"Marius" is a cognomen, not a first name, and wouldn't become one be until the modern era (Les Mis' Marius Pontmercy is an example). In the late Republic/early Empire, it would be like naming your kid Smith or Johnson.

As an example, we can look at Caesar's name, Gaius Julius Caesar. Gaius is an intimate name, a name for friends and family. Julius indicates that he's a part of the larger aristocratic Julii family and it isn't really used in everyday exchange. Caesar is patrynomic, shared by men of that branch of the Julii.

Marius, even as half-Gallic, would've had at LEAST a praenomen and a cognomen, even if his father was a novus homo, the first of a family line to achieve significant political status (usually senatorial) in Rome. In that case, he may lack larger aristocratic family ties, and therefore a nomen, but that's all and it seems unlikely. I don't think that's ever mentioned in B&G.

And that's why Marius' name pisses me off.

#yeah sure maybe he chose that name himself later but it's still stupid #vc #the vampire chronicles #tvc #marius de romanus #shitty roman history in vc

[tagedeszorns]

If you could change one plot related thing, which would it be?

Also, who is your least favorite Word Bearer?

Hmmm … only one? For the whole of 40k and the Heresy? That is difficult! I have the initial reaction to say: undo Sharrowkyn's invention. But since McNeill would then just come around the corner with another flawless superman, that wouldn't do anything at all. Same insufferable perfect guy, different name. So something else.

I think I would opt for giving Marius a heroic, fantastic death befitting him. That's the least. He's a great character and the absolutely crappily written, incidental and undignified death was simply the nadir of an already very, very bad book.

Marius and Julius in general deserve much more love. They are just used as weird horror characters or not even fleshed out further, even though they have so much potential. But then, that's "story of my life" for 90% of Emperor's Children.

Close third would be: A different ending for Burias. Again, don't like it at all.

Hmmmm … as I would have "better deaths/endings for Amon and Sanakht" next, I'm beginning to wonder what's wrong with me. I don't want to save them all at all. I just want more glamour, more heroic sacrifice or grandiose madness for their deaths.

But seriously. Marius' death was the stupidest thing McNeill ever wrote - and yes, I count "Reflection Crack'd"! 😂

I don't think there's a Word Bearer I really don't like. Maybe the ones who are used purely as "look at that bad guy!" in a lot of Warhammer-novels. But I guess that's more feeling sorry for them.

Yes, I even like Kor Phaeron. And Jarulek.

#warhammer #horus heresy #warhammer 40k #ask post