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perhapsjoy · 2 years
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the fact that vespa spends the whole episode in shambles imagining everyone/juno betraying her and putting her down but then at the end the way she figures out its the imposter is that she knows juno would never call her crazy
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so the thing I love about that bit in Shadows on the Ship. the fact that Jet clocks their couples' therapy as 'the poetry you write for each other' totally makes sense considering. juno 'broody monologues' steel, and peter 'i am most comfortable expressing myself by being dramatic’ ransom glass ‘my Wound still Throbs when’t Rains you Brute‘ nureyev dipping into some rhythmic if not straight up iambic cadence when he's Doing A Bit
RELATEDLY. i think they're talking about their feelings significantly more than they're having sex. are they doing it effectively? dEBAtabLE but they are trynig. (nothing particularly explicit here this is mostly cut for length but that's the general theme of it)
the fact that Juno gets flustered and Nureyev is like 'lol damn right' whenever the their relationship comes up suggests (to me! because i think it would be funny!) that everyone else thinks they're going at it every chance they get when it's really more like 50 percent cuddling and naps and 40 percent making stupid jokes and heckling each other's poor breakfast decisions and getting distracted by talking about their special interests and whatever else passes for their couple's therapy/poetry sessions and they're only going at it in the remaining 10 percent that they get the time and energy and privacy for it
so post Cyberbots when they've got the ship back up and Juno's like 'uh hey. so the big guy recently said something about how we've been 'inconsiderate neighbors' and he wants us to keep it down', Nureyev is. genuinely baffled??
because first of all Nureyev does actually possess at least one (1) situational awareness, he also values his own privacy and is overall fairly conflict avoidant with their family, and he recognizes that Juno is very flustered by the whole 'having housemates who tease him about his boyfriend' thing. so Nureyev might not feel shy about their relationship but he's perfectly capable of being discreet, with the result being that he at least has thought this through
and then Juno's like 'he said something about poetry. and I'm uh pretty sure he meant the. um. you know. talkingaboutfeelingsstuff'
'ohhhh well that makes more sense. oh and we did have that one conversation before the Blade job that went until three in the morning. you'd had an awful lot of coffee that day.'
'yeah and you got really excited about Venusian opera traditions'
'it's not my fault the president of Venus is apparently a walking pastiche. oh well i'm glad jet said something. we'll get him some of that loose-leaf tea for his stash as an apology. and keep a closer eye on quiet hours shall we'
'UGH fine i GUESS'
- the thing is when they're not an item, juno's not exactly getting flustered about his sex life considering he's touchy about fuckety everything else. mick and sasha have no qualms about heckling him about his taste in guys and he doesn't get pissy about it. alessandra punches him for trying to pull a humphrey bogart and he's like 'not my usual thing but hey', he and valles vicky wake up in the same bed and make icky faces at each other and move on, ramses is like 'did i say your apartment' and juno's like 'ughh it's too early for your bullshit'
- he gets flustered about Nureyev bc he has actual feelings about nureyev
- in embrace of ice he does say they spent a lot of that year being busy and tired and traumatized and in their heads a lot after rebuilding from that extremely fraught reunion, but those comments in Shadows did indicate that they were putting the work in and i think it left plenty of room for 'hashing out their communication styles and figuring out How They Work in the present' while still acknowledging that they hadn't really worked their way up to talking about their pasts
- and it just seems like every time someone alludes to their sex life, the incident in question is both more innocuous and considerably more private, and if anything Juno getting Weird and Pitchy over an innuendo would make a really convenient smokescreen to hide something he actually Feels Weird About
'you two are going to be very busy tonight' [what NO we do Not Need This Right Now oh my god Buddy he's upset with me leave him alone] *gets defensive, coffee everywhere* meanwhile Nureyev's like *be cool act smug yes Captain very droll*
'we already delayed for your private celebration' [jeez we only talked! and there was crying involved! and then we were tired and fell asleep!] *gets defensive* meanwhile Nureyev's like *be cool act smug we were definitely doing what you think we were doing and not crying at all*
'this is true i have heard it many times' [like hell you have? we haven't even been at it that much? and i'm pretty sure he only makes a move when he knows you're in the garage and going to be there for a while?] 'okay NOT what I MEANT' okay honey Jet doesn't even do innuendo (although he absolutely would mess with juno by setting him up for thinking it is one while still intending the straightforward meaning)
- but otherwise the complaints/comments they get about their pda are about being mushy and kissy but in a 'urgh they're mushy and kissy' not 'send them to horny jail' way
- further headcanons not necessarily bothering with citations in the text:
- the carte blanche has a rule about private activities in private spaces. juno and nureyev have never actually broken that rule. buddy and vespa definitely have.
- i'm pretty here for some flavor of demi/grey-ace nureyev. his attraction to Juno hinging inherently on feelings of trust. catching feelings right off the fucking bat because those prerequisites for attraction were revealed and fulfilled really fast. being really really into Juno but liking sex as an expression of that intimacy and a way of showing how he cares for him, no more or less than being mushy and kissy or giving him little enrichment puzzles to get out of bed and spend time with their family
- he's not above illicit smooch cruises for thrills and giggles but given a preference doesn’t really go in for actually getting off in places that aren’t beds in rooms with locking doors
- also they made out in the garage one (1) time and then jet showed up and stealth-checked them, startled juno into headbutting nureyev in the chin and giving him a split lip. which nureyev thought was funny and took completely in stride but juno felt bad about it and reminded him every time nureyev tried to egg him into smooching in places they shouldn’t.
- and eventually he pulled the ‘what if we get carried away and I say your real name in a part of the ship where somebody could overhear it’ card and nureyev went ‘alright point taken’ (and he does think it's sweet that juno's trying to look after him like that)
- i don't think juno inherently has hang-ups about being caught in flagrante but somebody and i cannot for the life of me remember whomst now recently made a post to the effect of 'if rita found out he was kissing boys she would scream and he already has a headache' and you know what. yeah i think that about sums it up
- but never mind finding out Nureyev's name because Juno yelled it in bed, it's a goddamn miracle that Jet didn't overhear it on any of the numerous occasions that Juno yelled it in frustration because Nureyev was winding him up during their couples' therapy
- anyway tune in next time for 'also i think Buddy and Vespa are having significantly more sex than everybody else is aware of and you know what good for them'
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adrie-75014 · 1 year
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this tweet had me pulling out my favorite Penumbra Pod/Juno Steel quotes (I have a notes doc for quotes bc of course I do). I think I started writing them down starting in season 3. Anyways, here’s some that punch me in the heart every single time so you too can be punched in the heart again:
[mild spoilers]
(also it would warm my heart if people added their favorites to this)
BUDDY: “A legend is an old story, a dead thing. Frozen forever. And we are very much alive, still in motion. We must use that.” (S3E02, The Man in Glass)
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DIRECTOR W: “You think you're some great hero for this, don't you?”
JUNO: “No. I think I did what I could and it was better than nothing.” (S4E25, the Blank Slate)
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JET: “Because It changes the world to believe in someone, just a little. I choose to believe it, and I choose to believe that my belief changes the world.” (S3E25, What Lies Beyond)
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BUDDY: “We must be careful not to fall too far out of date with the story about ourselves which we tell ourselves. It leaves you flinching from blows that never come… and blind to those that do.” (S3E21, What Lies Beyond)
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JUNO: Self-loathing always arrives with bricks and with mortar, ready to build a wall that will keep anything good about you out and all of the self-hate packed tightly in. I wanted to tell him that he couldn't trust the feeling, that it lied, that I loved him and all of us loved him, and if he could only see that love he would never say he had no value again. (S4E24, the Blank Slate)
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JUNO: You can’t think your way out of self destruction if you’re always self-destructing your train of thought. (S4E19, the Clean Break)
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JUNO: If I learned anything during my time with the Aurinkos, it was this: there are very few battles in life that have to be one-on-one. (S4E25, the Blank Slate)
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VESPA: “The hardest thing about “visual and auditory hallucinations,” like the medical handbook calls them, isn’t when you hallucinate a thousand spiders climbing out of the bathtub drain. It’s when the spiders are actually there — and you’re letting them crawl all over you cuz you think they’re just in your head. You can’t know what’s real, is my point. [...] What nobody gets, is the price that comes at — looking at everything and everyone through gauze, questioning every meal and word and kiss, because if you can’t trust your own goddamn eyes how are you supposed to know if anything you see is real?”
VESPA: “Sometimes it pays to be paranoid. That’s part of what makes quitting the habit so hard: because even if it only saves you one out of every thousand times, you spend the other nine hundred ninety-nine convinced this is the time that counts.”
(S3E09, Shadows on the Ship)
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RITA: “I dunno Mr. Ransom, it seems pretty simple to me. If somebody tells you what they want you to call em, that’s what you call em. no matter what. Cuz I mean, you know yourself better than anyone, right?” (S3E14, Mega Ultrabots of Cyber Justice)
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JUNO: Just because you miss something doesn’t mean you’re supposed to go back to it. (S3E21, What Lies Beyond)
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Kevin Vibert (the lead writer and co-creator of The Penumbra Podcast) said that when he was writing Juno Steel and the Shadows on the Ship (the main Vespa episode), Vespa Ilkay wanted to swear and swear, but he couldn't let her because he'd already set a prescient of no one swearing
Anyway, Vespa should win
Thank You!
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sabworks · 4 months
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Ok…ok I have this idea at the back of my head for some time now and it’s sooooo embarrassing but imma relay it to you anyway
Id like to think some pharmaceutical company copies dna for cloning out soldiers/doctors/engineers/etc and mix and max out dna as well in order to make a “perfect” clone better for people to either adopt or use for personal use so in this scenario the assassin android that tried to kill the carte Blanche that one time (I think it was shadows of the ship back in season 3 idk tho might be wrong) actually sent in copies of the crew dna and now have probably made clones of the crew. And so Jupeter love child is born along side his sisters who are twins and they were all made in various ages the oldest being 15 and the youngest being 9 as the kids are being trained off camera during true out the rest of the season they finally get hired and meet Peter Nureyev first and then meet Juno steel both Peter and Juno feel a sense of paternal love towards said kids and don’t know why but Juno eventually realized that the kids look vaguely like him and Peter so Juno ask them this and the eldest would confess that their clones and share the same dna as him and Peter so Juno uses this as a excuse of some sort and is like “Peter! Get your ass here you are papi now” and Peter was like”hold-up I don’t remember you having a pussy-“ and eventually the eldest like falls in to debt like Peter and peters like “you can’t do that alone” and the kids probably gonna go “but your doing it already” then peter promptly realizes what Juno has been doing this whole time to him and relents and ask Juno’s help with his debt
Look I know I sound like Rita trying to explain the plot of some stream she’s currently watching but I just got to tell some one about this ehshdhjwjwjdb I might actually start writing a fic about this too….
Where’s the fic anon??
I’ve often thought back to the clone drone and how weird it was and how they even got Nureyev’s DNA or likeness in the first place. Love the idea that it could be a way of creating new life! It would bring up very interesting questions of these kids’ sentience and free will. Would they truly have free will? Would they choose to use it and join forces with Juno? Would they feel similarly attached to their parents? Is the tendency to gather crippling debt genetic? Is Juno a milf?? That’s for you to decide.
Very cool idea and a completely unexpected way for Jupeter to have offspring. Always send me your Rita Rambles guys! <3
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manyfandomsonelog · 2 years
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what’s your favorite tpp episode? mines shadows on the ship also whos your favorite character and why? basic question but i Must know
OHHH man difficult question.
My favorite episode is probably eitherrr Train to Nowhere or Monster’s Reflection, I go back and forth. I know those are like. SUCH a huge contrast in moods but what can I say!! I just love the Jupeter in Train to Nowhere, but I also love the feeling of my heart being ripped out of my chest and stomped on in Monster’s Reflection. And also. Benzaiten Steel <3 Also an honorable mention to Murderous Mask my absolute beloved.
As for favorite character, that honor DEFINITELY has to go to Juno. He’s not only my favorite character in the podcast but my favorite character in any form of media ever because I am just absolutely obsessed with him. Honestly I’ve considered making an entire video essay just talking about why he’s an amazing character. It’s just like. Everything about him!!!
He’s a lady! He’s a subversion of the noir detective! He’s bisexual! He’s an absolute disaster! He’s experienced an absolutely absurd amount of trauma! We meet him and he’s self-destructive and he has a hero complex and he blames himself for literally everything ever. And it’s like Jesus Christ why are you like this and then you learn his backstory and it’s like. Oh I see. That makes sense. But then despite everything he’s been through he wants so badly to be good! He wants so badly to do good and he tries so hard but he can’t seem to get it right and he trusts so easily and he keeps paying the price for it and it’s so messed up!!! But then it’s also so satisfying to see him finally grow and learn to want to live and learn to rely on others and season 2 is SO GOOD because we see that development and it’s just so!!!!!! I love him. Also he’s hot
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bunnygirlheart · 2 years
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for today’s walk I listened to the penumbra podcast. Juno Steel and the Shadows on the Ship. Not sure what to say abt it. Slightly intense stuff at parts. I had a good time though! ...I wanna hear Rita again, its been too long.
I also saw a big dog. Don’t remember if it was brown or black but it was Big and I love it. noisy though. wish it wouldnt yell at me but hey we dont know each other its chill dogs are like that
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Fave Enby Ships:
- Juno Steel/Peter Nureyev (The Penumbra Podcast) ✨
- Raine Whispers/Edalyn Clawthorne (The Owl House) ✨
- Jim Jimenez/Oluwande Bhoodhari (Our Flag Means Death)✨
- Crowley/Aziraphale (Good Omens - Miniseries Version)✨
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Fave m/f Ships:
- Ben/Bev (Stephen King's IT) ✨
- Max/Lucas (Stranger Things) ✨
- Joyce/Hopper (Stranger Things) ✨
- Laszlo/Nadja (What We Do In The Shadows) ✨
- Mr. and Mrs. Rose (Schitt's Creek) ✨
- Jake/Amy (Brooklyn 99)
- Bow/Glimmer (She Ra)
- Willow/Hunter (The Owl House)
- Ted/Alexis (Schitt's Creek)
- Anathema/Newt (Good Omens - both versions)
- Uhura/Scotty (Star Trek: TOS)
- Both sets of parents in Encanto lmao
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Fave Polyam Ships:
- Rilla/Damien/Arum (The Penumbra Podcast)
- Kirk/Spock/Bones (Star Trek: TOS) ✨
- El/Max/Lucas (Stranger Things)
- Wei Wuxian/Lan Wangji/Wen Ning (The Untamed)
- Parker/Alex/Elliot (Leverage)✨
- Keeley/Roy/Jamie (Ted Lasso)✨
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coyotevallie · 2 years
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just started shadows on the ship p1 and vespa hallucinating ransom mocking her for being schizophrenic is sad and all but its also kinda funny . my sister in crime Hes Schizophrenic Too
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robink-archive · 4 years
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haunting shadows
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wastrelwoods · 4 years
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“you have already seen the invader, vespa?” 
I am. losing my shit over here like WHO is that? is that ransom? what is he doing? whose idea was it to make this episode into Alien (1979) and how do I thank them??? 
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Juno Steel, known viewer of An Alien™️: But aLIeNs dON’t ExiSt!!1!!
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the-ipre · 4 years
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can y’all believe that the penumbra podcast just invented romance
[id: a screenshot of a portion of the transcript of ‘juno steel and the shadows on the ship. the words “I want to hold her and tell her she’s beautiful no matter which way her hair falls. And if she still wants to hide her scars, I want to help her pin her hair back in place” are highlighted /end id]
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void-and-vortex · 3 years
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UGH NOT THE GODDAMN ROBOTS AGAIN
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pansexualnoodle5 · 4 years
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Vespa: “She comes around the corner and the feeling in my gut reminds me that this is the first time I’ve seen her all day, ‘cause I just fell in love with her all over again. Just like I do first thing every morning... when I turn and see Buddy Aurinko, there beside me.”
Me:
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splendiferous-soup · 4 years
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Vespa hours!! Finally started listening to more and I just finished shadows on the ship 👀
[ID: Three illustrations all of Vespa Ilkay, a character on The Penumbra Podcast. The drawings are monochrome green. The first shows Vespa with an uncertain expression. She is wearing light green rectangular earrings and a grey tank top. Her hair is bright green and cut in a fade, the longest parts going just past her ears. The second and third drawings are from the neck up, the second showing Vespa with a distant look, and the third showing her with her hair in a ponytail and a panicked expression. End ID]
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