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adelaide388 · 2 years

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My Thoughts on Kanou and Someya's Relationship

Note: I'm not referring to Kanou Somoku and Someya Kaoruko. I'm referring to their parents. I'll address Kanou as Somoku, his father as Kanou, and Kaoruko's father as Someya. This is not a review of Okane Ga Nai. I will not be criticizing nor defending the series and all of its problems. This is just an account of my thoughts on Kanou and Someya's relationship.

The first time I read Okane Ga Nai, I never thought I'd be consumed with the desire to create fanfiction/fanart of a side pairing, much less this massive, soul-consuming post, yet here I am. I'll go by sequential order, oldest chapter to the newest.

1.) Vol. 6, Ch. 4

In this chapter, Ayase asked Somoku if he and his father had any nostalgic memories. Somoku answers no because Kanou took him to mahjong clubs.

Nothing much happened here in terms of Kanou and Someya's relationship. However, I include this flashback because it's the first time we see these characters interact, and it gives us an understanding of their dynamic.

As we saw in this picture, Kanou and Someya's dynamic is lacking. Someya objects to Kanou's cruel demand to be paid for beating Somoku, and Kanou dismisses him.

There is no chemistry between them. Their interactions are reserved and distant. I really don't have much to say about this flashback other than this wasn't the moment I decided to ship them. The following section is when I started to get interested.

2.) Vol. 8, Ch. 4.5

This comic strip is to blame for my obsession. Basically, it's just a funny story about Somoku's upbringing.

I like how Somoku was basically a demon since birth lmao.

Anyways, the reason why I say this comic strip was the cause of my obsession is that Kanou had to rely on Someya. A ruthless man is reduced to an incompetent father who has to rely on his friend with the personality of a chihuahua. How funny is that?? I found it hilarious and cute.

But the other reason why I love this comic strip is that Kanou is getting used to Someya. Thinking back to Vol. 6, Ch. 4, I mentioned that Kanou basically treated Someya like an outsider. To me, that implies that Kanou wanted to raise Somoku alone; he didn't want/need the opinion of others. And with Kanou's mindset that not even familial bonds should get in the way of business, it's no surprise that Kanou would raise Somoku alone. However, he realizes that raising a kid isn't as easy as he thought it would be lol.

So here comes Someya in all his short-tempered glory and destroys Kanou's peace. I imagine that Kanou would be uncomfortable with having another person barging into his home, nagging him for his inappropriate behavior, and making noise when playing with his baby. And that uncomfortable feeling is manifested in silence as Kanou just listens to Someya scold him like in the second picture. I mean, what else can Kanou do to not piss off the only help he has? He's helpless, and I love it LMAO

I was fangirling so hard after reading this comic. And then comes Vol. 9, Ch. 38

3.) Vol. 9, 38

There isn't much interaction between Kanou and Someya, but there are cute moments about Someya being important to Somoku.

First, let me start off by commenting on this picture.

AHHHH! The cuteness overload >.< Anyways...

I'm probably reading too much into this picture, but I can't help but feel like this is symbolic. Turning your back to someone is a symbol of trust, and the fact that Kanou is back-to-back with Someya is making me squeal!!! But not only does Kanou trust Someya, but Somoku trusts Someya. So much so that he prefers sitting in Someya's lap over his father's lap. It might be logical that Somoku would prefer to sit with Someya, but Somoku grew up with his father's lessons about trusting no one; Somoku wouldn't trust so easily with that mentality but he doessssss! He finds security and maybe even comfort in Someya, and that's just so cute to me.

Someya is the glue of the Kanou household, the center, and I'm dying to see more about the trio.

Last comment about this chapter, take a look at the quote, "'Only two people can do that to the President and live. The previous president and Someya-sensei." The side character says this to Ayase after he sees Someya whack Somoku and it's just so funny to me. Like, the poor boy was just thinking about how scary Somoku was that he had yakuza henchmen trembling and then out comes some angry chihuahua to hit Somoku. Everybody gangsta until your parents whoop your ass.

Also, look at how alike Someya and Somoku are <3

Last thing I swear. Takanohashi is a real one for starting my "Someya is a mother/wife" campaign lmao he's a fudanshi at heart.

4.) Vol. 10, 45.1

THIS IS MY FAVORITE FLASHBACK!

Okay, so this is my favorite flashback because KANOU IS FINALLY COMFORTABLE WITH SOMEYA!

Kanou feels comfortable enough to tease Someya by calling him a "certain fussy lawyer." The tone of the panel where the quote comes from is a joking tone because the characters are drawn in a style similar to chibi form, which is why I say it's a joke and not an insult. They've become so close as they rightfully should be because they've been raising a kid together for years.

Another reason I love this flashback is that Somoku secretly loves that Someya showed up for him. He was prepared to not see his father at the school and then comes Someya and Somoku blushes! It warms my heart that a child gets the emotional support they deserve.

I have to say that as much progress as Kanou and Someya have made, Kanou still thinks he's alone sometimes. Someya yells in the last picture, "...when you say 'I'm taking responsibility for Somoku!'" Kanou still makes comments where he takes sole responsibility for Somoku, and that hits hard after looking at the latest chapters, but basically, it's like Kanou reminds himself that he shouldn't confide in Someya as a co-parent. And that's just sad :(

5.) Vol. 12, Ch. 5

This is so cuteeee <3

"It's because we're too soft on you." -> AHHHHH! <3<3 Another example of Kanou being comfortable with Someya. He's thinking about themselves as married.

"I'll sue him for defaming your father's character!!" -> Actual development on Someya's part. Usually, Someya gets mad at Kanou, but this time he's mad for Kanou. This time Kanou isn't the enemy in Someya's eyes; Kanou is the one who needs "protecting."

Also, can I point out that Someya spends way too much time with the Kanous? I understood that he needed to be there a lot because Somoku was a baby, but now he's a child, he should be able to live another day under Kanou's "care." Someya doesn't need to be there, but I love that he is there often :)

6.) 69-71

HERE COMES THE ANGST. I don't know if this counts as a spoiler because the chapter(s) has been on mangago.com for a good month, but whatever, spoiler alert.

My heart...hurts.

Look at Someya's terrified face in the first picture. You'd think he saw a ghost, but no, it's just Someya surprised at Ayase's comment about Somoku looking like Kanou. Why was he surprised?

Kanou's last wish was for Somoku to be different than him. Kanou had expressed to Someya only that he wanted Somoku to be different and that means he didn't want Somoku to be alone.

I've mentioned that Kanou had a solitary mindset, especially before Someya got involved in Somoku's upbringing, but why did he think like that? He's a loan shark, first and foremost. It's not easy for him to trust because trusting the wrong person can be dangerous. And he has to be ruthless to ensure no one tries to get away with stealing his money. It's no wonder why Kanou came across as a lonely character in Vol. 6, Ch. 4, and the comic strip. He believes being alone helps him in the long run, even if it creates enemies like Konomi.

But Kanou raised Somoku to think like him, so what difference does it make that Kanou doesn't want Somoku to be like him?

I think the difference has something to do with regret. Kanou believed being alone protects him at his job, and he probably thought Somoku was going to take his place, so Kanou trained Somoku to think like him. But Kanou didn't take into account that Someya would change his perspective. Someya showed Kanou that sometimes he had to trust someone else and that trusting could lead to a bond so strong, so beautiful that even if they yelled at each other or pushed each other away, they'd be there for each other. And Kanou probably regrets that it took (maybe 6-12 years, I don't know how old Somoku is in the Vol. 10, Ch. 45.1 flashback) so long to trust Someya. He could've enjoyed Someya's companionship sooner had he not been so stuck in his solitary ways.

So even if Kanou wants Somoku to think like him because he thinks it'll keep Somoku alive, he wants Somoku to behave in the way Someya raised him. It's why, despite Kanou judging Somoku's brattiness, he comments, "...it's a good thing that that damned brat isn't anything like me." Because it's Someya's influence. Somoku's brattiness is Someya's fault. Somoku being short-tempered is Someya's fault. Kanou sees a difference in Somoku (because Kanou sure as hell wouldn't act like that at all), and he couldn't be happier. Why? Because Kanou doesn't want Somoku to be alone.

I think Someya gave Kanou the wrong idea that those personality traits are what will help Somoku make friends lol, but they are a sign that Somoku isn't emotionally stunted like Kanou. Somoku has the capacity to learn personality traits that will get him friends, and that's probably enough for Kanou.

And because Kanou had expressed his satisfaction only to Someya right before he died (LOOK AT THAT GENTLE SMILE HOLY SHIT), Someya took it upon himself to carry on Kanou's wish.

It's why Someya is so devasted in the sixth and seventh pictures when he saw Somoku's harsh expression mirror Kanou's expression. Someya feared Somoku would harden his heart and follow Kanou's footsteps. It's why Someya felt so much relief in the last pictures because he knew Ayase would change Somoku for the better and help carry out Kanou's wish when Someya no longer can.

SOMEYA IS SUCH A DEDICATED HUSBAND TO KANOU THAT HE WOULD THROW AWAY HIS HOMOPHOBIA IF ONLY TO GRANT KANOU'S WISH T-T

I'm sad that Kanou and Someya couldn't get a happy ending. I'm devastated that Kanou died alone after having known companionship. I'm upset that Someya has to live on as a widow burdened with the unabsolved guilt of having failed his husband. I'm disappointed that Somoku couldn't see that his father did care about him and that Somoku probably won't get a chance to think about that.

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Well, that was my emotional journey as I read through the Kanou-Someya moments. I hope I got everything and explained everything even though nobody asked for this. I'm just glad I got to share my thoughts.

Here are some more pictures that I found cute but I didn't include:

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kyanitedragon · 22 days

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Have you ever wondered the exact timeline of Tokyo Ghoul?

Notes:

Tokyo Ghoul takes place in 2011-2012, as seen on Kaneki's school notebook in chapter 23

September:

Kaneki's date with Rize is never given a calendar date in the manga, nor the exact amount of days between him scoring a date with Rize and going on the date itself, but between Rize's Takada Building kill being found on Sept 28th, and Kaneki's "weeks" spent in the hospital before his discharge on Oct 21, we can estimate their meeting and date sometime after Sept 28th through the first week-ish of October

October:

Based on the dates of Hide's texts to Kaneki in Chapter 2 (Oct 21) and Chapter 6 (Oct 31) we know that 10 days has passed in that time.

(But personally I find it unclear which manga scenes specifically fall on what days. Technically all that's important to know is that Kaneki's been starving on his own for 10 days, in addition to "weeks" in the hospital.)

November:

The Nishiki vs Kaneki fight doesn't have a canon date but based on the other dates we have, it must happen sometime between Oct 1 - Oct 4

Touka takes Kaneki to meet Uta on a Saturday (Ch 11)

As seen on Hinami's wanted poster in Ch 20, Ryoko died around 7:30pm on Nov 9

As stated in Ch 22, Kusaba was killed at 10:30pm on the 10th of the month.

Chapter 30 states that it's been about 10 days since Kusaba's death, which brings us to Nov 20, but given that its a school day I added 1 more day to make it Monday not Sunday.

In Chapter 33 Tsukiyama invites Kaneki on a "date" in 3 days' time on Sunday

I'm not entirely sure when Kimi's kidnapping and the resulting church fight happens. I think Kaneki says he's been staying days (plural?) in Anteiku after the restaurant ordeal, but visually it looks like its only been a single day? So its possible that might be pushed a few days further

December:

Kaneki's escape from Yamori is confirmed to be at 12am on Dec 20 (which is also his birthday). The other dates you can find by working backwards from this.

Yoshimura stated the CCG would need 18-20 days to prepare to raid Aogiri (Ch 66)

Banjou's escape plan needed to wait 5 days for the safest day, as of Kaneki joining them (Ch 55)

Kaneki was kidnapped in Ch 52, Ch 53 shows a full day has passed, up to 23:33 aka 11:33pm, which then transitions to Kaneki waking in ch 54 and being brought to Tatara.

My december estimates on the calendar are using the shorter estimate of 18 days (I mean, Hide did give the CCG the exact location of Aogiri for free so...)

#tokyo ghoul #tg reference #i haven't gotten to the Kanou Lab and Anteiku Raid arcs in my reread yet #but i'll keep an eye out for exact dates when i do #i just remember the timeskip is 6 months so it starts around June #and then that one chapter took place on Touka's birthday / July 1st #tg #tg reread

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